Randy Couture

ed6hellsfresh

hey i dunno what peoples opinions are on mma etc, but i gotta say randy couture making a come back at 40 was amazing. here is a vid of part of his workout, it looks pretty easy, although as he says im almost sure i would find it impossible.
what do u think of this routine, worth a shot?
any couture fans out there?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3224902600571518938&q=randy

cowzerp

randys pretty cool-lots of mma fighters are 40+ too!!

Clive

Randy is a legend - very few MMA fighters can compete at that level at 40+, whereas he was top three in the world regardless of your rankings.

The TQFC grappling circuit is great for grappling endurance - it certainly looks a lot easier than it is.

ed6hellsfresh if you're training for grappling/MMA etc then this workout is great, although I'd recommend starting with an unweighted bar

yomchi

The man is the cream! Seeing him spank Tito was just class..

Dragan

Randy for me will always be the absolute of MMA. He seemed to be fighting everyone at their Prime and coming out on top. He conditioning is second to none, and when it comes to MMA training you can't really go wrong with listening to Mr Couture.

t-ha

ed6hellsfresh wrote:

it looks pretty easy

That's 95lbs he's using. Do the exact programme he prescribed (for the number of rounds he prescribed) with 95lbs and report back if you can .

Complexes are tough workouts.

g'em

t-ha wrote:

That's 95lbs he's using. Do the exact programme he prescribed (for the number of rounds he prescribed) with 95lbs and report back if you can .

Complexes are tough workouts.

I started using a complex very similar to this one recently with 60-ishlbs (bar + 10kg) and it's an absolute killer- easy is not a word I'd use on the same page let alone the same sentence when describing these workouts. Although his form looks pretty weird on a couple of things... I can't make out if they're badly done back squats or GMs he's doing

But anyways, he handles the whole thing damn well and yes he's in good nick. The complexes are very good conditioning training programs- not great overall mass or strength builders, but they'll keep you fit as f00k

Clive

g'em wrote:

I can't make out if they're badly done back squats or GMs he's doing

They're good mornings - slightly different to the "classical" version, much more sport-specific for grappling.

Millionaire

so is that whole routine consider 1 set...and he would do it 3 or 4 times?

Would he do extra weight routines on top of that?

what sort of cardio would this guy do?

Jak

Continuous linked sets like that will never be easy. The chained nature of different muscle groups being worked is probably of some use to someone training for MMA fights. As with many sports and sports training, a large part of how you prepare should be tailored to the type and duration of demands placed on you in competition. Related to this point, what he works on outside of the weights room in terms of sparring and cardio probably contributes far more.

As an aside, I can't understand MMA at all - in parts it seems like there are no rules, but if that is the case they could be a lot more vicious in their efforts to finish a fight once someone is grounded. Sometimes it just looks like amateur - if more gritty - WWF style fights. I'm also surprised given the light gloves that they still have teeth and people aren't opened up right away in the first round.

Dragan

Jak wrote:

As an aside, I can't understand MMA at all - in parts it seems like there are no rules, but if that is the case they could be a lot more vicious in their efforts to finish a fight once someone is grounded. Sometimes it just looks like amateur - if more gritty - WWF style fights. I'm also surprised given the light gloves that they still have teeth and people aren't opened up right away in the first round.

Hey Jak,

With the except of the traditional Vale Tudo ( literally means "no rules" ) or things like Finn Fight all the major orgs have a pretty long list of rules. A lot of them are the same and disallowing eye gouging, fish hooking, groin shots etc….but some of them are different. For example, UFC allows Elbow strikes both standing and on the ground, Pride allows head stomps and soccer kicks.

I think the reason it might sometimes look kind of WWF as you said is that a huge amount of guys who fight would have Judo or Freestyle/Greco Roman wrestling backgrounds, and getting your opponent to the gound and being in a dominant position can be off massive advantage to these fighters, so you can see a lot of throws and slams etc.

The gloves in an interesting point…as you really would expect a lot more soft tissue damage that you sometimes get ( no doubt after a lot of wars a lot of the guys look like they have been through a grinder ) but the actual volume of blows landed, compared to a boxing match lets say would be far, far less. Also the gum shields worn offer some protection for the mouth.

I think the reason we see less cuts etc is there is no standing counts…and generally speaking if a fight does land that sweet shot their opponent will go down and stay down….once they seem to be unable to defend themselves the refs will stop the fight, and it is not often to see a fight left going too long….in fact your more likely to see an early stoppage!!

There can be a massive difference between the apparent skill level from fight to fight in the same Orgs….i suppose the way you could compare the winners of the Premiership to the team who just escapes regulation?

Anyway, do you enjoy watching the sport at all?

Jak

Thanks for that.

In particular it was a clip I saw where elbow was used and I couldn't understand if this was allowed why it wasn't the norm when someone was grounded - given the lack of padding on your elbow. It is just a bit confusing to watch as it looks very 'scrappy' compared to say a boxing match, and I have trouble dissecting what is allowed.

As for watching it ... not really for me.

I'm keen on boxing - although the heavyweight class has been dire the last few years with the exception of Roy Jones. I suppose Vitali was entertaining and maybe the little brother will get some decent opposition in the next while to bring some interest back to the class.

Anyhows, outside of boxing, whilst I have plenty of respect for the likes of Judo and wrestling, I think they, like those in the Darts fraternity, should accept that it is not really mainstream entertaining unless you have lots of money on it or know the fighters. There is too much subtlety - which is lost on spectators in my view.

That's not to have a go at other MA's though, I mean I toyed with kickboxing for about 4 years, and whilst useful and to use the cliche 'great for flexibility' - I think the ongoing weights did a lot more for my self defence prospects. Semi contact fighting just wasn't for me. I moved to boxing after that and I still rate it as the very top level for fitness and 'practical' personal safety and effectiveness. These days I'm happy to just keep training for strength and surf, dive etc. A boxing bag in the gym has long been promised but yet to be delivered...

JAK.