Aussies raise the Tempo.

netwhizkid

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What crap being spouted! Don the Battle gear lads! I hope the Irish lads beat the crap out of them. The way they treated the Irish lads in the Video shown on the site (i missed both last years games) made my blood boil in ways that Northern Teams never could, I often (unfairly ) criticised Ulster football but watching that Video of last years Aussies Rules sickened me.

Opinions??

Nalced_irl

I think everyones opinion on that is quite one sided. They can spout about how we started and then coward away and all that bull but the simple fact is, we went there to play a match, they went there to beat the sh1t out of some small Irish lads. We only started hitting back after it was clear they were not there to play ball. Of course they can kick the hell out of us also, they are professional players so are generally alot fitter and Oz rules has alot depending on upper body strength ect and so they will be bigger and stronger. Personally i think they should scrap the International Rules series as i doubt we will ever see a clean competitive and enjoyable game.

gaa_fan_au

We Aussies find it extremely difficult to NOT play physically. There's AFL and rugby, both of which involve strong contact. That's why we don't really like soccer...

cournioni

Its ok to play physically within the rules, gaa fan. But we sent out a small squad to play the game, just to be met by thugs from the Aussie team, who were only interested on fighting with the Irish.

Ireland could have sent out the likes of Whelan and O'Sullivan to kick and punch the Aussies, but they didn't. Ireland had a plan to out run the Aussies with their pace. Obviously this backfired, but at least we went out to play the game. There is no excuse for the way Australia played last year.

Waylander

I did not like the Aussie tactics last year, but to be fair I also think the Irish management team deserved some blame also. If I recall correctly, they deliberately went were a smallish (in stature as opposed to number of players ) squad, trying to utilise speed as an advantage. This backfired on them, and they pointed the blame at the rough and tumble Aussies. There were a few bad tackles, and red cards should be red cards, but we gotta have some muscle on board so they do not think they can push us around at will.

patmac

Is it me or is there a distinct lack of interest in this year's series I can see the attendances way down on last years.

BMAN26

I think that the Irish squad needs to step it up this year...it has been continuously shown that the aussies are out for blood. I am not saying that the Irish need to do the same, they just need to have a proper squad that can protect itself and play a good game. The small squad idea from last year backfired, they were knocked around and manhandled, they need to have the muscle to make sure they can play without intimidation. But I would like to see more Irish players step in and defend other Irish players. Watching 4-5 aussies drop an Irish player to the ground then take turns throwing punches is disgusting and just embarassing for them (aussies).

Ice_Box

The only way the Austrialians can win is by cheating and they know that. This game should be scrapped.

gucci

my main problem with how the aussies "cheat" or bend the rules is after EVERY time an irish player lays off the ball he is tackled and put to the ground, perhaps with a dig or too to the ribs, this has been continously done since the present set of games began and no refs have acted on it. its f**king dirsgraceful,getting abuse like that isnt long wearing down a team

blackbelt

Whilst I am going to the international rules,I am going in the hope that I see a decent game of football.After last years antics,I have lost all the respect I had for the Australians.

I think we should put Brian O Driscoll,Ciaran Whelan in there.Big guys who can rough it up when needs be.This year will be my first time to go to the series and if I see much like I did last year,it will be my last.

P.s to any aussie keyboard warrior reading this who condones and supports
the action of their players I have this to say...you wouldn't be laughing if you were on the pitch with those Irish players last year.I'm sure you would be covering up and cowarding away.

Its hypocrisy that you make fun of the Irish as most of you probably have Irish/English backgrounds.Most settlers in Australia came from Ireland and England so think twice about your words....your basically branding your forefathers nation as a pack of pansies but if you think we are,remember this,the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.We came to play football,you came to fight.This year we will be ready and we'll see what happens

UnitedIrishman

When is the Irish team finally announced?

They need to have the big men in the squad. The likes of David and Ger Brady (Mayo) who are ex-Rugby players. Ciaran Whelan, Donaghy. Lads who are up for the rough and tumble.

gucci

i dont think brian o'driscoll would be on for playing for ireland to be honest, at least in rugby there are disipilinary procedures which are usually enforced quite well unlike this international rules farce

gerire

There was a rumour that they were out looking at Eric Miller who has resumed playing with Ballyboden in Dublin.

Was there at the game last year and took a rake of abuse from the Aussies, trying to talk logic to these guys was a fruitless experience. The Aussie media did give it fair coverage, if you could find the courage, saying it was a cowardly and illegal tackle.

I hope the Irish put out bigger players who can play ball too, wait till ye all meet Barry Hall, a huge beast of a man but boy can he play ball. Was surprised not to see Goodes in the Aussie team. their line up is quite impressive

Chance Bateman (Hawthorn), Campbell Brown (Hawthorn), Ryan Crowley (Fremantle), Aaron Davey (Melbourne), Nick Davis (Sydney), Sam Fisher (St Kilda), Dustin Fletcher (Essendon), Lindsay Gilbee (Western Bulldogs), Brendon Goddard (St Kilda), Barry Hall (Sydney), Graham Johncock (Adelaide), Matthew Lappin (Carlton), James McDonald (Melbourne), David Mundy (Fremantle), Ryan O'Keefe (Sydney), Brett Peake (Fremantle), Danyle Pearce (Port Adelaide), Andrew Raines (Richmond), Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda), Adam Schneider (Sydney), Adam Selwood (West Coast), Justin Sherman (Brisbane Lions), Kade Simpson (Carlton), Brent Stanton (Essendon).

Sean Boylan wrote:

The GAA has confirmed that Seán Boylan, the Irish International Rules Team Manager, will not be in a position to announce his squad to travel for a training weekend to France until tomorrow.

The delay in announcing the squad is due to a difficulty contacting a number of players in regard to their availability to travel.

SportsMad

INTERNATIONAL RULES TRAINING PANEL - A O'Mahoney, M Ó Sé, P Galvin, K Donaghy, B Guiney (Kerry), T Kennelly (Sydney Swans & Kerry), K Reilly, A Moyles, G Geraghty, J Sheridan, C McCarthy (Meath), A Quirke, G Spillane, N Murphy, D O'Connor (Cork), K McGeeney, R Clarke, S McDonnell (Armagh), D Rooney, T Kelly (Laois), C Begley (Brisbane Lions & Laois), SM Lockhart, P Bradley (Derry), S Ryan, A Brogan (Dublin), K Fitzgerald, J Bergin (Galway), S Cavanagh, S O'Neill (Tyrone), B Coulter, M Walsh (Down), A Dillon, G Brady (Mayo), P Barden (Longford), D Earley (Kildare), J McCarthy (Limerick), K Lacey (Donegal), K Slattery (Offaly), D Dolan (Westmeath).

Will be cut to 27 by next wednesday

Mizz_Kat

Hey guys, I am from Australia and I dont remember any cheating in last years game. Come on its only a bit of fun, plus we are using ur rules and ur ball...seriously what more do you want.

padi89

Mizz_Kat wrote:

Hey guys, I am from Australia and I dont remember any cheating in last years game. Come on its only a bit of fun, plus we are using ur rules and ur ball...seriously what more do you want.

Read through the thread linked in the OP doesnt seem like fun there.....and thats an Australian site.

cournioni

Mizz_Kat wrote:

Hey guys, I am from Australia and I dont remember any cheating in last years game. Come on its only a bit of fun, plus we are using ur rules and ur ball...seriously what more do you want.

Our rules?! Eh the mark, the tackle, getting a point for kicking the ball wide, not soloing the ball, being able to lift the ball off the ground... Hardly "our rules".

redmosquito

I like the international rules and all, and hope we can get a bit of payback this year but I have to say its an absolute joke that there is not one Mayo representitive on the panel, and the fact that only Ger Brady and Alan Dillon got a try out. Why no David Heaney, Ronan McGarrity, Pat Harte etc...

Anyway, im still gonna have a keen eye on this, and hopefully football (us) will win out over thugery (Aus.)!!!

Jabbathegut

blackbelt wrote:

P.s to any aussie keyboard warrior reading this who condones and supports
the action of their players I have this to say...you wouldn't be laughing if you were on the pitch with those Irish players last year.I'm sure you would be covering up and cowarding away.

I doubt you've seen a full game of Australian Football (not the crappy highlights package we get on TG4 or Sky). Intimidation is an important part of the game and a real test of character if you can stand up to it and dish it out yourself.

Must say, CJ's action was over the top and if it was an AFL game he would have been rubbed out for at least 6 games and fined a mint...but the rest of it was just handbag stuff.

U wanna see hits see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qk2ziEe19I
and some old 70-80's biffo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ipK5hH1z7k

blackbelt wrote:

Its hypocrisy that you make fun of the Irish as most of you probably have Irish/English backgrounds.Most settlers in Australia came from Ireland and England so think twice about your words....your basically branding your forefathers nation as a pack of pansies but if you think we are,remember this,the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.We came to play football,you came to fight.This year we will be ready and we'll see what happens

Aussies make fun of everyone and everything. Are you to precious to take a bit of pre-game shiza??

There seems to be a little too much focus on the physical stuff in this thread. What you guys failed to see the way we handled the round ball and dominated the midfield last time. We really punished you on turnovers and hardly missed a shot for goal.

You lads tend to grow an extra arm and leg when we play you on your dirt and tore us a new one the last time we played at croker so I think it will be a very close contest.

Bring it on.

Dapos

Jabbathegut wrote:

U wanna see hits see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qk2ziEe19I
and some old 70-80's biffo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ipK5hH1z7k

i don't see how a elbow into the head at full speed is considered sport of any kind. And it's hardly a bit of fun. Our rules doesn't allow it nor does the international rules as far as i know.

Jabbathegut

If contact is made above the knee and below the neck then its fair game

Some of those 70's and 80's hits are shockers (but it did bring in the crowds) and thankfully now been pretty much rubbed out nowdays. Those who infringe on the rules generally get huge fines and suspensions.

I posted those links to give everyone an idea where we are coming from, its not thuggery, its the way we play our game. A majority of those hits from the 2005 link were legit or accidental which can happen when players are charging at the footy at full speed from all angles.

The red card rule change should keep players on both sides honest

Xavi6

All this bitching and moaning by the Irish supporters is getting boring. If the players can't hack the physical nature of the game then scrap it. End of. The Australians are bigger and tougher than the Irish and that's just the way it is.

Anyone who has watched Aussie Rules will know that the stuff that happens off the ball is horrendous, but part of the game. These players can't be expected to switch off what is a big part of their game.

Playing with a round ball has always been to the advantage of the Irish players with regard to skill so the Aussies use their own 'skill' of being a tougher side.

dSTAR

Xavi6 wrote:

All this bitching and moaning by the Irish supporters is getting boring. If the players can't hack the physical nature of the game then scrap it. End of. The Australians are bigger and tougher than the Irish and that's just the way it is...

Get over yourself! Skill obviously doesn't enter into your lexicon.

Your fantasies about Barry Hall and Chris Johnson don't necessarily make you bigger and tougher!

My guess is you are either overweight like the majority of Aussie men over 25 or a scrawny bespectacled anorak whose spends his day in his bedroom playing violent computer games or trolling forums.

Xavi6

dSTAR wrote:

Get over yourself! Skill obviously doesn't enter into your lexicon.

Your fantasies about Barry Hall and Chris Johnson don't necessarily make you bigger and tougher!

My guess is you are either overweight like the majority of Aussie men over 25 or a scrawny bespectacled anorak whose spends his day in his bedroom playing violent computer games or trolling forums.

I'm actually 6ft, 12 and a half stone and captain of the the boards.ie soccer them so there goes your theory.

And last time I checked being able to put in a good strong tackle is a skill in itself.

wow sierra

We lost last year cos we couldn't kick the bl....ing ball over the bar not because of the Aussie rough play(some of which was terrible). Same problem tonight - sick of watching it.

Dave!

Get In There!!!!!!

wow sierra

Brilliant finish - and brilliant finishing in the finish!!!! They must have been reading my post.!!

The1337_Stephen

There we go, brilliance, bet that shut up the run-the-mouth aussies

whassupp2

Read the last few posts in this......priceless:




http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=279699

Kojak

A great finish, although it looked like that for long spells the Aussies would win it.

For the next day Ireland have to learn to not be kicking huge high balls into the full-forward line as this suits the Aussies down to the ground - nearly more so than the irish. The reason we thrashed them 2 years ago was we played Gaelic Football against them and they didn't know how to counter-act it.

The1337_Stephen

whassupp2 wrote:

Read the last few posts in this......priceless:




http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=279699

Oh, thats brilliant

I can nearly see your mans face when he saw the score

mike65

Bog Ball + Criminal Rules = Crap.

How can anyone take this makey-upy 'game' seriously? Two games of poor quality which no one else plays awkwardly merged to the dissatisfaction of fans on both sides of the world.

/me runs away

Mike.

wow sierra

Two games of poor quality which no one else plays awkwardly merged to the dissatisfaction of fans on both sides of the world.

Mike: Why exactly are you on a forum dedicated to one of these games and a thread dedicated to the merged game. Maybe you need to get a life?

The rest of us are happy in our own unique little Irish way with our own unique little Irish games - go figure!!:)

mike65

I'm generating controversy!

Mike.

ANXIOUS

hi, lads just wondering if anyone saved the video of the 1980's series they are after getting taken down of you tube.

dSTAR

Xavi6 wrote:

I'm actually 6ft, 12 and a half stone and captain of the the boards.ie soccer them so there goes your theory...

Jeez maybe you will get a game for the Socceroos! Judging by your previous post you seem to have the right sporting attitude :rolleyes:

Puhleeaze post a pic of yourself after you have finished crying over last w/ends loss! :cool:

dSTAR

dSTAR wrote:

Jeez maybe you will get a game for the Socceroos! Judging by your previous post you seem to have the right sporting attitude :rolleyes:

Just disregard that statement. Apparently a spot has become available on the Australian side!

cournioni

Xavi6 wrote:

All this bitching and moaning by the Irish supporters is getting boring. If the players can't hack the physical nature of the game then scrap it. End of. The Australians are bigger and tougher than the Irish and that's just the way it is.

Anyone who has watched Aussie Rules will know that the stuff that happens off the ball is horrendous, but part of the game. These players can't be expected to switch off what is a big part of their game.

Playing with a round ball has always been to the advantage of the Irish players with regard to skill so the Aussies use their own 'skill' of being a tougher side.

What are you talking about? The tackle in IR is always going to suit the Aussies. It even shows on the field, the Irish just can't get used to tackling nor being tackled. It has nothing to do with the physicality of the players. Therefore it is just as big of an advantage to the Aussies as the round ball is to us. Not to forget that annoying mark in their game. So in my eyes, the IR is perfectly compromised between Gaelic and Aussie Rules.

The Ireland squad that has been picked this year are well able to mix it with the Aussies, and I believe some of it was shown on Saturday night. Some huge shoulder charges from the Irish left the Aussies red faces and flat on their arses. This was happening to the Irish last year to the likes of Ross Munnelly and Ryan McMenamin who, if they went toe to toe with most GAA players in this country they would land on their arse so it doesn't really tell you much. I think you'll find that alot of stuff happens off the ball in Football and Hurling, you've obviously never played the game at a reasonable level so you should keep your opinions to yourself.

Basically what started it all off was a cheap shot by Johnson when Jordan was going for the ball, sure anyone can do that. It is hardly a skill to take someones head off when their guard is down and he definately deserves all of the criticism that is coming to him for it. That tackle wouldn't be accepted in Gaelic Games, Aussie Rules or even Rugby.

kaimera

Amm...anybody got any comments wrt the game on Sunday?

Haven't seen any highlights at all.

UnitedIrishman

To be fair it was cack. No atmosphere, very little physicality, the security was atrocious desptie the streakers being the only bit of craic at the game.

The game itself was poor. Very poor handling skills and accurate kicking.

Sunday will have to be a good game to make it a decent series.

Mad Finn

Here's another clip of the Johnson coat hanger tackle last year.

The commentary is great: 'This is going to send the Irish media into a frenzy!!'

You've got to love Ozzies. Nobody does sanctimonious indignation quite like them.

dSTAR

Mad Finn wrote:

You've got to love Ozzies. Nobody does sanctimonious indignation quite like them.

Either that or oafish, unsophisticated comments from your typical bogan Aussie bloke. This particular specimen can usually be found standing around a BBQ with mates in wifebasher, drinking beer from can in hat, making offensive comments.

Incidentally where is Xavi6?

Jabbathegut

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20686411-23211,00.html

Who are the thugs now??

Hope Geraghty plays see how tough he really is....

Sell out at Croker for sundays game. Looks like the series will be happening for years to come.

As far as arguing about the rules look at the results.
Played 14
Ireland 7
Australia 6
Draw 1
Pretty fair and balanced to me.

I'm excited!!

Mad Finn

Jabbathegut wrote:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20686411-23211,00.html

Who are the thugs now??

Who is this Gilbee character? What a whinging toe-rag!!

From Fox News Article wrote:

Gilbee said the Ireland players had used what he described as "little tactics" in a bid to put Australia off its game.

"They kick you in the ankle and kick you in the shins," Gilbee said.

Australia was still feeling its way in the first Test, cautious about the effect of tough new rules to clamp down on unsavoury incidents.

"We didn't know how to really approach their rules.

"We didn't know if we were even allowed to touch them or if they would cry, if you know what I mean."

dSTAR

The Aussies are the new kids on the block and should not forget that the Irish ARE the original Wild Colonial Boys. The term Fightin Irish was given for good reason.

I'll fight but not surrender cried the Wild Colonial Boy
Taken from the song Wild Colonial Boy

Mad Finn

I've been enjoying some Aussie Rules clips on YouTube.

I was told years ago that one of the most spectacular things you can see in a Footie match is a Jezza, named after Alex Jesaulenko. The original clip of his mark in the 1970 Grand Final when he basically jumps up and puts his knee on another guy's shoulder, thereby adhering to the rule that you can't push an opponent in the back, so that he can jump higher and get the catch is marvellous.

So too are the Toyota ads which spoof this and other great moments in Aussie footie.

Anybody know were one could view a clip of the Dermott Brereton incident in 1989 when he got clattered, puked his guts up and then got up and played a blinder? I've seen the spoof, I'd love to see the original.

Xavi6

dSTAR wrote:

Incidentally where is Xavi6?

Don't worry I'm still here. As you can imagine it's taken a while to mop up the tears after the game, which was horrendous by the way (and no not just because we lost).

The main difference on Saturday was the ability to kick the round ball. I would be interested in seeing one of the tests palyed with an oval ball. This would obvioulsy make the use of goalkeepers more difficult but it would put things on a more equal footing with regard to kicking skills.

dSTAR

Xavi6 wrote:

Don't worry I'm still here...

Onya mate!

Xavi6 wrote:

As you can imagine it's taken a while to mop up the tears after the game, which was horrendous by the way (and no not just because we lost)...

True. It was a pretty lame performance all round. Just as horrendous was the media coverage here over Brendan Fevola's antics in some boozer. Talk about a storm in a tea cup! Although fair play to Big Bad Bazza for placating Fev and trying to get him to calm down.

Should be an interesting game this w/end...

Concannon7

Its great reading some of those comments on the bigfooty site. Shows what kind of people they really ****ing are. Some of those comments are pathetic, they see nothing wrong with acts of thugery. Yet that disgraced player that was sent home from the Australian camp could only use the "I was racially abused" crap as an excuse, when some be those comments are shocking.




[mod edit]: edited to disgraced player. No need for the language.

cournioni

Xavi6 wrote:

The main difference on Saturday was the ability to kick the round ball.

Really? I seem to remember two great goal scoring opportunities. One from Stevie McDonnell and one from Sean Cavanagh. Both hit straight at the keeper. The Aussies didn't seem to have any problems taking scores with the ball, so that is just a cop out.

Blackjack

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Really? I seem to remember two great goal scoring opportunities. One from Stevie McDonnell and one from Sean Cavanagh. Both hit straight at the keeper. The Aussies didn't seem to have any problems taking scores with the ball, so that is just a cop out.

Ah but you have to have an excuse, aside from the Mark (good when both team can use it) the side (great for Mayo forwards - sometimes), the physical tackle (great for Meath in the 90s- ahem - not actually allowed in GAA anymore) or indeed the interchangable player - totally different for the general amateur player who usually is expected to last the full 70-maybe 80 minutes. I mean, can you imagine, someone who plays a sport at weekends and actually has a full time job, that they have to turn up for generally between a Monday and a Friday?.

I mean LIKE STREWTH, YA BIG GALAH!!!!,

Don't get me wrong, I love Aussie rules, and I love watching it, but when our Ams beat the Pros, and the best excuse they can come up with is the round ball excuse, I just have to think they've other issues.

EDIT - Oh and by the way, for the Aussies - bring it on. if you can play by the International Rules, I wish you all the best.