My issue with "E" and an unforgetful experience!

Playboy

SpAcEd OuT wrote:

hardly the drugs fault I mean taking 4 pills your first time is stupid, if I drank 8 cans my first time and ended up in hospital what would you blame, me or the drink, you would clearly blame me so whats the diffrence with your case

Anyways you said your friends eyes were rolling back, pretty normal on e

you said you friend was unresponsive then coming out of it, pretty normal on e

you said he was having little spasms, pretty normal on high doses of e seen my mates do it, obviously if hes having a violent spasm its diffrent

blood coming out of his mouth, probably from chewing on his gums


put it into prespective, doctors have confirmed he is fine, no damage done to him whatsoever and in the case of 2 of the sympthoms you mentioned they're quite common on e [eyes rolling, unresponsive for peroids of time] and in the other case its rare but its not life threatening at all and doesnt do any harm

And what about his memory problems and aggresive behaviour in the hospital. Listen m8 I have done pills, coke, acid, mdma, ketamine, grass, hash. ether, opium, valium and more drugs that I cant even remember. I did this consistently over a 10 year period and I have seen some fu**ked up ****. People have fits on xtc .. I have had them .. people end up in psychiatric care becuase of drugs all the time my friends and I have ... just pay a ward a visit some time. Dont be so naive as to come on here and tell this person that what happened his friend were normal xtc side-effects. There is a big difference between having a fit and being a bit smacked out of it on a pill. Your response is typical of that of a drug user who thinks that it will never happen to them. Live in your bubble m8 and defend the drugs .. but dont be so arrogant as to dismiss this guys experience because it doesnt fit in with your experience of the drug.

SpAcEd OuT

Playboy wrote:

And what about his memory problems and aggresive behaviour in the hospital. Listen m8 I have done pills, coke, acid, mdma, ketamine, grass, hash. ether, opium, valium and more drugs that I cant even remember. I did this consistently over a 10 year period and I have seen some fu**ked up ****. People have fits on xtc .. I have had them .. people end up in psychiatric care becuase of drugs all the time my friends and I have ... just pay a ward a visit some time. Dont be so naive as to come on here and tell this person that what happened his friend were normal xtc side-effects. There is a big difference between having a fit and being a bit smacked out of it on a pill. Your response is typical of that of a drug user who thinks that it will never happen to them. Live in your bubble m8 and defend the drugs .. but dont be so arrogant as to dismiss this guys experience because it doesnt fit in with your experience of the drug.

are you being serouis, memory loss happens all the time on ecstasy and if his friend was feeling angry then the e would have exagerrated it greatly, I wasn't dismissing the guys experience just telling him that if his friend was in serouis trouble the hospital tests would have proved it and that most of the effects he was mentioning happen from time to time, obviously if you werent expirienced enough to know this you would be ****ting yourself and everything would seem 10 times worse, I had one of the same things happen my first time on e my mate was on the ground having these little spasms, i was freaked but luckily I had a mate there who had done them a lot and he said it was normal nothing to be afraid off and sure enough a minute later he stopped, no harm was done, my point was the OP should realise that his friends health is fine and that if he had been in trouble when he went to the hospital the tests would have shown it, it was a scary experience but no harm was done and your friend is fine

SpAcEd OuT

Wanttoforget wrote:

Little spasms? Where the hell did i say that?

Pretty voilent spasming my friend. Along with the noises he was making, they sounded like he knew what was going on and didn't like it. He looked like death when it was all over.

He never closed his mouth once, i was in his face the whole time. I was full sure it was internal.

sorry you said

he keeps this up for a couple of more seconds

so I thought you meant he was having little spasms


He never closed his mouth once when you were there but he could have been chewing on his gum all night and then when the spasms happened and he opened his mouth a bit of blood came out was my point

Playboy

SpAcEd OuT wrote:

are you being serouis, memory loss happens all the time on ecstasy and if his friend was feeling angry then the e would have exagerrated it greatly, I wasn't dismissing the guys experience just telling him that if his friend was in serouis trouble the hospital tests would have proved it and that most of the effects he was mentioning happen from time to time, obviously if you werent expirienced enough to know this you would be ****ting yourself and everything would seem 10 times worse, I had one of the same things happen my first time on e my mate was on the ground having these little spasms, i was freaked but luckily I had a mate there who had done them a lot and he said it was normal nothing to be afraid off and sure enough a minute later he stopped, no harm was done, my point was the OP should realise that his friends health is fine and that if he had been in trouble when he went to the hospital the tests would have shown it, it was a scary experience but no harm was done and your friend is fine

you can experience memory loss on e such as forgetting what the hell you were talking about .. you dont forget who you are or where you live. I know the mini spasms you are talking about but I dont think this is what the OP is talking about .. people who have those mini-spasms are easily revived .. its just like being tripped out or half asleep. For me what the OP described sounded more like something similar to an epileptic fit .. something which has happened me after taking too many pills for too many nights.

Carcharodon

Wanttoforget wrote:

Sure we should legalize ecstasy in that case, and let anyone make it...

Why because its a highly regulated industry now???
At least people would make it proporly if it was legal.... and before people start galloping in on their high horses, i will state that it should not be legal to avoid this going totally off topic

SpAcEd OuT

Playboy wrote:

you can experience memory loss on e such as forgetting what the hell you were talking about .. you dont forget who you are or where you live.

Pill could have had MDA in it in which case it happens

Playboy wrote:

I know the mini spasms you are talking about but I dont think this is what the OP is talking about .. people who have those mini-spasms are easily revived .. its just like being tripped out or half asleep. For me what the OP described sounded more like something similar to an epileptic fit .. something which has happened me after taking too many pills for too many nights.

yeah thought he meant the mini spasms thing the way he said a couple of seconds later he stopped