Conroe cooler

Psycopat

Gona leap to conroe the 6600 to be exact in a asus p5b deluxe 965, 2 gb DDR2 800mhz ram, wondering what cooler to get i was looking at arctic cooling freezer pro but hear good things from ninja scyth, any opinions, im gona hope to overclock heavily

PogMoThoin

Sythe Ninja FTW
Read up on xs forums, Sythe & big typhoon gettin the highest clocks

Psycopat

good good ill go for that, cheers

SouperComputer

Ive been looking for a ninja plus, but a lot of places seem to be out of stock. Is there much difference between the plus and "non" plus?

/edit Difference is the inclusion of a 120MM fan seemingly.

Tis a mean looking object, was considering a Freezer 7Pro, but the ninja seems to be the way to go, hard to get tho.

DemonOfTheFall

Overclockers UK had them in stock last time I checked.

In my P180 with the tricool fans set to low I can overclock from 2.13 to 2.4 Ghz , processor stays at 63' under dual prime95. Thats WITHOUT even attaching a fan to the ninja!

I haven't even bothered to go any higher than that, since I haven't had time. I'd say even by attaching a really low speed fan to the ninja, like 800RPM you would easily have enough cooling for 3.2GHz +.

If overclockers had them in stock I would have bought the Thermalright Ultra-120, since it seems to destroy the ninja, both with and without a fan. Shame about the price...

Anti

Ive just added the ninja to my 3500+ i now hae 2.8ghz stable@ 38c 24 hour 3dmark 06 looping, i do have deltas on it htough

DemonOfTheFall

Your temps probably wouldn't lose anything by going to a slower/quieter fan. The ninja shouldn't really benefit from uber-airflow, due to its really spaced otu fins.

TomCo

Have a look at this, maybe you'll change your mind.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/08/01/conroe_heatsink_group_test/1.html

I bought the Freezer 7 Pro in marx-computers a few weeks ago for €28. Its quite light and doesn't require any brackets.

Still waiting for the rest of my computer though, "out for delivery" means its going to get delivered today. Right? Right!?

PogMoThoin

Was gonna sell my zalman & go for ninja. Might re-think that 1 now, cheers.

Takeshi_Kovacs

The artic cooler pro 7 and akasa cooler look fairly good...
i didn't realise they were so cheap as well. I think i might get one to keep me going until i get wc sorted..

DemonOfTheFall

If you already have a CNPS 9500 no point in changing it, all those top coolers are so close to each other in performance that theres almost no difference

PogMoThoin

Maybe. The 9500 is marketed as a quiet cooler, not a performance 1. There seems to be a big difference in performance between it & the ninja. Tuxy's temps were way less than mine at the same fsb and vcore. I'll just never be happy

DemonOfTheFall

The ninja is marketed as an entirely passive super quiet cooler, not a performance one

I think that despite the 9500 being marketed as quiet rather than powerful, it's really the other way around. SPCR didn't seem at all impressed with the amount of noise it puts out, and Tom's seemed to have their PD805 working fine at 4GHz with one, so I think the marketing had it the wrong way around.

Psycopat

ninja was out so i went for arctic frezzer 7 but overclockers are being a55holes about wantin utility bills i dont got :mad:

Psycopat

ok i may have to cancell my order and get off komplett so i was wondering if Pc 8000 RAM is compatable with mobos and will this help oc'ing, if it was pc 6400 ram i'd get 2 gb but if i was getting faster ram i'd get 1 gb, i'd prrefer not to delve into ram oc'ing and im not entirely sure about intel oc'ing(just got my head around amd )

also opinions on this mobo http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=323504&view=detailed

PogMoThoin

Its not the best clocker from what i've read. Gigabyte clocks much better.

I'd go for 6400 ram, thats what i've got & at 355fsb (3.2Ghz) my ram still runs faster on a 4:5 divider. What speed is your goal? It'd be more of an advantage to have 2Gb even tho 2x512 clocks easier. Unles you plan on going over 400fsb it wouldn't make much difference.

Skud

I got that board, it only takes up to 800mhz ddr II ram, so anything overthat (i.e. 1066mhz ram) won't work

Psycopat

PogMoThoin wrote:

What speed is your goal? .

hey if i get anywhere near you ill be happy, 3 ghz would be super i need a mobo from a site that will deliver soon and not overclockers as theyve annoyed me twice :mad: if you guys know one with a nice mobo, stick a url up. crossfire or sli aint essential as ive a 7950GX2

PogMoThoin

Komplett stocking Asus mobo's but only got p5b in stock. P5b is supposed to be the worst oc'in board. Very low voltages in bios only up to 2.1v vdimm. Read up on it here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109099

You should read up on xs forums bout mobo's compatible with 7950gx2. Lot of mobo's not compatible. I know it doesn't work on my mobo.

Psycopat

PogMoThoin wrote:

You should read up on xs forums bout mobo's compatible with 7950gx2. Lot of mobo's not compatible. I know it doesn't work on my mobo.

wow i would have thought it'd be compatable with all id better check it so

PogMoThoin

This is the board i'd get, available loads of places: http://www.pricegrabber.co.uk/search_getprod.php/masterid=23272847/search=asus+p5w/skd=1

Check it out yourself, its the highest oc'er: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106321

From what i've seen, every conroe board has issues of some sort. I've been waiting for weeks for a new bios to sort out the probs I'm having (cold boot probs, oc resets). I'm sorry i didn't go for that board.

Psycopat

Double post *deleete plz*

Psycopat

PogMoThoin wrote:

This is the board i'd get, available loads of places: http://www.pricegrabber.co.uk/search_getprod.php/masterid=23272847/search=asus+p5w/skd=1.

Psycopat wrote:

Gona leap to conroe the 6600 to be exact in a asus p5b deluxe 965, 2 gb DDR2 800mhz ram, wondering what cooler to get i was looking at arctic cooling freezer pro but hear good things from ninja scyth, any opinions, im gona hope to overclock heavily

:rolleyes::D

PogMoThoin

2 different boards m8.........D5w Dh Deluxe is 975

Psycopat

PogMoThoin wrote:

2 different boards m8.........D5w Dh Deluxe is 975

ahh i see i thought it was the same but with 2 pci-e slots. its outta the question anyway, i gotta get 1 of komplett and they dont have any in stock

PogMoThoin

Your fairly limited then so. Komplett don't have a great selection. Asus or Gigabyte

DemonOfTheFall

Can't go too far wrong with the Gigabyte DS3.

Only real fault with it is that its lowest mem divider is 1:1 so you pretty much need PC6400 if you want to do serious overclocking.

With the latest BIOS flashed onto it it's a great little board.

If you end up getting it possibly consider a better NB cooler too though, Practically scalded myself off mine last night when I touched it to see how hot it was getting. Gigabyte made a big booboo by not putting a fan on it...

TomCo

Haha, me too!

I touched it this morning to see if the rumours were true.

Psycopat

where would i get an nb cooler? ive never heard of one. i was lookin at this board http://komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=323506 and ya id get pc 6400 ram

PogMoThoin

Your gonna have to take a hack saw to the heatpipes to put a cooler on that northbridge. some1 on xs did it.
I put a fan on my nb heatsink, brought temps down few degrees & then i replaced the thermal paste with silver5 & got a 5' drop :eek:

Psycopat

PogMoThoin wrote:

Your gonna have to take a hack saw to the heatpipes to put a cooler on that northbridge. some1 on xs did it.
I put a fan on my nb heatsink, brought temps down few degrees & then i replaced the thermal paste with silver5 & got a 5' drop :eek:

i dont think ill do that :eek: i was thinkin of gettin the 975 asus board you said, off scan.co.uk, has anyone ever used them? and do they rape on delivery and do they deliver fast?

RazielDoomgate

i got the asus p5 hd deluxe with a evo blue cpu cooler on it .. just in a the prosses of sorting out my case with some fans and have to replace the termal paste.. as far as i know acording to pc format my mobo is one of the best for oc... though i havent tryed yet going to be picking my fans and stuff from peats on friday and hopful start ocing over the weekend.

btw does anyone know how acurate those software temp monitors are.. got one with the board (pc probe) and getting some high temps on the memory (50 - 60 degrees)

PogMoThoin

Psycopat, never had any dealings with scan.co.uk, can't be any worse than ocuk or Komplett. Fingers crossed you don't have to rma anything.

RazielDoomgate, Intel thermal analysis is a pure disaster. Its a guessing game. Read:
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054990395
There's a few threads on xs forums about pc probe being over 20' off in some cases. I just go by the mobo socket temp measured by speedfan.

Chop, chop m8, this is what we expect: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113695 & http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=115037

Psycopat

PogMoThoin wrote:

Psycopat, never had any dealings with scan.co.uk, can't be any worse than ocuk or Komplett. Fingers crossed you don't have to rma anything.

i gotta rma my dfi ut sli expert board :mad: its why im goin conroe, i cant be without a pc especially as im gettin broadband soon...

paul8200

If you're still sourcing the mobo, I got a P5W Dh from www.microaid.ie . You need to search by model name to find the mobo -.
2 day turnaround and cheap postage. I would use them again.

PogMoThoin

Info here on nb cooler for that mobo: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=115420

TomCo

If you're going to get a Gigabyte, get a DS3. Loads of people have them so if anything were to go wrong you have a big support base. Plus the bios is being updated regularly.

The DS3 doesn't have heat pipes, just a regular old block on top of the chip.
Its shaped in such a way that you could screw a fan on using the fins of the sink to grip the screw threads. I saw someone on XS doing it.

Takeshi_Kovacs

Psycopat wrote:

i dont think ill do that :eek: i was thinkin of gettin the 975 asus board you said, off scan.co.uk, has anyone ever used them? and do they rape on delivery and do they deliver fast?

Does scan even deliver outside of the uk??

RazielDoomgate

tnx for the info pog.. going to try hit the 3ghz by the end of the weekend. i be letting you know how i get on.. as for now i must scrap together some money for teh weekend and fans

PogMoThoin

RazielDoomgate wrote:

tnx for the info pog.. going to try hit the 3ghz by the end of the weekend. i be letting you know how i get on.. as for now i must scrap together some money for teh weekend and fans

Don't stop at 3Ghz :eek: You'll definitely get there on stock vcore (i got to 2.8 (310fsb) on stock fully stable). Week 26 & 27 conroes need less juice to hit higher fsb's, ya should have no probs gettin to 3.2Ghz before ya start gettin worried bout temps. Be sure to read the stickies on xs bout the settings to turn off (c1e is a pain if its not disabled)

You've also got downward clockin multies with this new bios: http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=256507

Psycopat

paul8200 wrote:

If you're still sourcing the mobo, I got a P5W Dh from www.microaid.ie . You need to search by model name to find the mobo -.
2 day turnaround and cheap postage. I would use them again.

mobo http://www.microaid.ie/cgi-bin/sh012345.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2emicroaid%2eie%2fcgi%2dbin%2fss012345%2epl&WD=asus&PN=Online_Catalogue_Motherboard_711%2ehtml%23a1177974#a1177974

the site looks dodgy enough, you can vouch for em ya?

Anti

Why are any of you tlaking about conroes ?

Kentsfield is just around the corner, I have been tlaking to maverick-sg1 about his kentsfield chip, and it is a absolute monster. And overclocks to 3.6ghz minimum.

DemonOfTheFall

Why would you want to bother with a Kentsfield though ?

I really and truly don't see the need for quad core unless

1. Running a server.
2. Absolutely loads of video encoding / video editing.

It's gonna be a long time before you see a game putting 100% load on 2 cores never mind 4 of them.

Anti

do you not desire the latest consumer electronic equipment ?

Psycopat

anti wrote:

Why are any of you tlaking about conroes ?

Kentsfield is just around the corner, I have been tlaking to maverick-sg1 about his kentsfield chip, and it is a absolute monster. And overclocks to 3.6ghz minimum.

cheap replacement till kentsfield comes mainstream tbh, ill prob get 1 when its out

awhir

Psycopat wrote:

cheap replacement till kentsfield comes mainstream tbh, ill prob get 1 when its out

rich boy.

Psycopat

awhir wrote:

rich boy.

I dont spend my money on alot, but i sure do like fast pc's :rolleyes: