Skateboarders

Freddie59

Mods,

I realise that the 'skateboarding morons' thread has been deleted/moved. Apologies for resurrecting the topic. Just a short message to all those who were supportive of my original point.

I have received an extremely abusive pm from one of the skateboarding proponents, which adequately highlights for me their mentality.

I presume others may have received the same.

Regards,

Freddie.

Our man in Havana

Report the PM to an admin.

Cabaal

I fully agree with something being done to the last thread but was their really a need to delete the whole thing?, should it not have been locked instead?

I've not received any PM's yet,

Our man in Havana

What's really needed is a Mod with balls to deal with these threads in a timely manner.

flamegrill

You mean a mod with time to deal with all the rubbish that gets posted? I've asked Stephen to be a mod of the KK board and I think I need 1 other mod to co-mod the Eaterford city board, or else take over South East alltogether. Looking after children takes time and effort, something which I currently don't have a lot of.

Mossy Monk

Freddie59 wrote:

I have received an extremely abusive pm from one of the skateboarding proponents, which adequately highlights for me their mentality.

i haven't been fortunate enough to receive one. there must be something special about you. perhaps i will get one when they are finished breaking stuff down at the plaza

Aquos76

Smart little fcukers is all they are. I saw some of them abusing two elderly women out walking along the plaza on friday evening. They were doing their thing on their skateboards and one of they fell and the skateboard went flying in the direction of one of the ladies. The lady got an awful fright and she said something to one of them, next minute there were 4 of the little scumbags over abusing the two of them.

So much for them not been allowed on the plaza. Why are they not been prosecuted.

flamegrill

Fredie59,

That guy has received a site ban for his troubles. I'm going to discuss another mod for this regional forum.

Paul

christophicus

Freddie59 wrote:

I have received an extremely abusive pm from one of the skateboarding proponents, which adequately highlights for me their mentality.

In all fairness thats one persons view. dont tar them all as being /thinking the same.

Sully

In every large crowd of people - most of the time there is always going to be a few who are just gonna cause havock. I used to be skate years ago, not to much, but I know what its like not to have anywhere to go. People hate you, the cops hate you and nobody cares if you got no place to go. Skaters in Waterford have no good place to go. The Plaza is ideal for them as its perfect to do stunts etc.

However, no matter how good it is -- I dont think its right that they destroy and damage the place. It was afterall tax payers money that goes into the clean up operation, those CCTV cameras (probably fakes) and signs. Cops try to raid the place, the skaters just flee in different directions. They probably just dont have enough man power to surround them.

Why cant money be spent on creating a proper facilitie for bikers and skaters to go to, developed by the skaters themselves, giving them a chance to stay away from trouble and stop them from causing damage?

Anyone who treats any member of public with disrespect, espicaly elderly, or anybody who has to send abusive messages through the PM feature here to respond to negative feedback -- must have something wrong with them. Its just not the right way to do things. Treat others like you want them to treat you. The elderly are frail and have no chance, how much of a man does it make you to stand up to them eh? Stick to someone your own age and size.

paul666

Dont they have a place in front of the R.S.C. with ramps and stuff like that

Sully

paul666 wrote:

Dont they have a place in front of the R.S.C. with ramps and stuff like that

Yes but thats a good distance away from the City Centre, and doesnt look adequate enough. Its tiny.

Bards

I have personally seen parents/guardian drop kids off in their cars to the Plaza with accompaning skateboard et all. They could have easily driven out to the RSC and dropped them off there.

Sully

Bards wrote:

I have personally seen parents/guardian drop kids off in their cars to the Plaza with accompaning skateboard et all. They could have easily driven out to the RSC and dropped them off there.

Ah ok. Are the CCTV in the plaza actualy real?

christophicus

Bards wrote:

I have personally seen parents/guardian drop kids off in their cars to the Plaza with accompaning skateboard et all. They could have easily driven out to the RSC and dropped them off there.

YEah cause parents have all the time in the world to be bringing their 17/18/19 year olds out to the "skate park" ( i dont skate and even i can see that its a piece of sh**e)

merlante

christophicus wrote:

YEah cause parents have all the time in the world to be bringing their 17/18/19 year olds out to the "skate park" ( i dont skate and even i can see that its a piece of sh**e)

This thread is slightly annoying because people are saying that the skateboarders have no place to go, when they clearly have a skatepark at the RSC. Not everyone lives close to the RSC, but such is life!

Parents may not have all the time in the world to drive around their kids, but the point was made that when the parents do have the time, and drop them at the plaza, they could just as easily have dropped them at the RSC. Besides, why can't they just walk, or skate?, to the RSC?

Thought the last thread should have been relieved of any of its offensive posts and locked, rather than deleted, personally.

Sully

merlante wrote:

This thread is slightly annoying because people are saying that the skateboarders have no place to go, when they clearly have a skatepark at the RSC. Not everyone lives close to the RSC, but such is life!

Its tiny. They feel its not adequate for there needs, and they use the Plaza cause its bigger, got loads of places to do there tricks on, full view from public, seating area for friends to sit, watch and chat.

Compare all the bits and pieces of the Plaza to that tiny little "thing" on the Cork Road.

Parents may not have all the time in the world to drive around their kids, but the point was made that when the parents do have the time, and drop them at the plaza, they could just as easily have dropped them at the RSC. Besides, why can't they just walk, or skate?, to the RSC?

Same reasons as above. Besides, the cops will actualy do something about it if your spotted on the street. And, imagine all that group thats at the plaza skating over to the cork road. Half of them wouldnt fit :P

Thought the last thread should have been relieved of any of its offensive posts and locked, rather than deleted, personally.

In some cases when moderating, if a thread is just full of offensive comments - its just a bitch to clean out and its just better to trash it. Im assuming thats what the mods thought when they deleted it. Tho, I didnt look at the thread for some time.

BadCharlie

Sully04 wrote:

Ah ok. Are the CCTV in the plaza actualy real?

Some of them are real and some are Feak, dont ask me how i know but i know

BadCharlie

Sully04 wrote:

Why cant money be spent on creating a proper facilitie for bikers and skaters to go to, developed by the skaters themselves, giving them a chance to stay away from trouble and stop them from causing damage?

The work been done in the park is for Bikers and Skaters. And when the plans were been drawing up the skateboarders were invited to give WCC there point of views. I belive there was a few meetings held between the planning and the skateboarders.

Freddie59

Mossy Monk wrote:

i haven't been fortunate enough to receive one. there must be something special about you.

Perhaps Mossy, perhaps.:p Sure aren't we all special at the back of it all - including you.:D

Freddie59

christophicus wrote:

In all fairness thats one persons view. dont tar them all as being /thinking the same.

Again, in fairness, Christophicus, their behaviour on that thread last week leaves a lot to be desired. The only way to force this issue is to fully impose the penalties under the law.

I don't believe it's a minority. The numbers on the plaza adequately demonstrate that.

Freddie59

flamegrill wrote:

Fredie59,

That guy has received a site ban for his troubles. I'm going to discuss another mod for this regional forum.

Paul

Cheers Paul.

Freddie

the-postman

you do realise not everyone on the plaza is a skateboarder and the RSC is real sh**e its far too small and a walkby for scumbags and all that... and its not really the skaters that damage the plaza... why would they damage shtuff they'd be skatin on? When wan of yee complained about an abusive PM your basically abusin the "skaters" by callin em morans and shtuff.... your basically smartinin up yer abuse

Mossy Monk

we've heard this ****e before. it's boring

merlante

the-postman wrote:

you do realise not everyone on the plaza is a skateboarder and the RSC is real sh**e its far too small and a walkby for scumbags and all that... and its not really the skaters that damage the plaza... why would they damage shtuff they'd be skatin on? When wan of yee complained about an abusive PM your basically abusin the "skaters" by callin em morans and shtuff.... your basically smartinin up yer abuse

Drop the victim complex. Nobody on here cares nearly enough about skateboarders one way or the other to hate them. People just hate the way the plaza is taken over and broken up by skateboarders -- and others.

And skateboarders do cause plenty of damage to the plaza. Just because you're not a fan of the RSC park doesn't mean you have to go straight to one of the cities main amenities!

Anyway, we already had all these arguments in a deleted thread...

Aquos76

the-postman wrote:

you do realise not everyone on the plaza is a skateboarder and the RSC is real sh**e its far too small and a walkby for scumbags and all that... and its not really the skaters that damage the plaza... why would they damage shtuff they'd be skatin on? When wan of yee complained about an abusive PM your basically abusin the "skaters" by callin em morans and shtuff.... your basically smartinin up yer abuse

Change the record,

and its not really the skaters that damage the plaza... why would they damage shtuff they'd be skatin on?

So tell us, who is damaging it so.

Oh and its a keybord you have attached to your PC not a mobile phone keypad, so please drop the text messages type of text.

Trotter

the-postman wrote:

You do realise not everyone on the plaza is a skateboarder and the RSC is really sh**e. Its far too small and a walkway for scumbags. Its not really the skaters that damage the plaza. Why would they damage stuff they'd be skating on? When one of you complained about an abusive PM you basically abused the "skaters" by calling them morans (morons.. Morans are people with Moran as a sirname) and stuff.... You're basically smartinin - (No such word, please rewrite) up your abuse

Sorry.. I couldnt help it.

shanethemofo

Guys can we drop this subject. We all saw how the last thread turned out. I request that this thread be closed because obviously some people like to stir produce of anal excretion on Boards.

Freddie59

shanethemofo wrote:

Guys can we drop this subject. We all saw how the last thread turned out. I request that this thread be closed because obviously some people like to stir produce of anal excretion on Boards.

Shane - this is a very hot subject in Waterford at the moment which offends many, many citizens. We have an area which is provided for locals and tourists alike which was supposed to provide an area where people could relax and chat.

What have we? A bunch of juvenile delinquents populating it while at the same time trying to justify their behaviour under the 'we have nowhere else to go' banner.

Are you suggesting that, because you disagree with it (for whatever inane reason) that we are prohibited from discussing it? The only anal excretion visible here is the reply which contains grammatical/spelling errors which a four year-old would not make.

I think that's called censorship.;)

merlante

Also, the fact that the last thread was deleted, the same tired arguments are coming up. It would have been much better to lock the last thread so that people signing up or coming on late in the day could see the arguments and wouldn't feel the need to get into all that again...

shanethemofo

Freddie59 wrote:

Shane - this is a very hot subject in Waterford at the moment which offends many, many citizens. We have an area which is provided for locals and tourists alike which was supposed to provide an area where people could relax and chat.

What have we? A bunch of juvenile delinquents populating it while at the same time trying to justify their behaviour under the 'we have nowhere else to go' banner.

Are you suggesting that, because you disagree with it (for whatever inane reason) that we are prohibited from discussing it? The only anal excretion visible here is the reply which contains grammatical/spelling errors which a four year-old would not make.

I think that's called censorship.;)

The fact of the matter is that you have resurected a one-sided debate.
You obviously are too ignorant to even listen to the views/suggestions of the skateboarders. And by correcting the gramatical errors made by the users of boards and considering yourself superior because of that, you are obviously just being a bully and acting the 'tough man'.

Furthermore, you evidently have not studied your arguements to the fullest extent because if you had, then you would find that in fact only the minute few of the "juvenile delinquents populating it" (the plaza) actually skateboard. The majority of the "delinquents" do only use it as "an area where people could relax and chat". Consider a sports complex as an example. If right now, there were 40 people in this complex. 5 people were in the pool swimming and the other 35 were in the gym running could you categorise them all as swimmers? NO obviously not, you would say that there are 5 swimmers and 35 gym users.

Now before you say it, yes i am fully aware that there are the few people who maliciously deface the area with graffiti, but i do not see how you could even consider that as being justification enough to not allow the people from enjoying this facility. Can you even honestly tell me that it is people from this peer group that deface the facility and not some scumbags from down the road?

Shane

Trotter

shanethemofo wrote:

And by correcting the gramatical errors made by the users of boards and considering yourself superior because of that, you are obviously just being a bully and acting the 'tough man'.

Correcting text speak that drives most people mad is being a bully and a tough man? No. Thats not true, and again a ridiculous argument. Text speak is annoying and impossible to read at the best of times.

Maybe if we changed the BIG sign on the plaza to NO SK8TING.. then we'd have a more socially respectful attitude from everyone who uses it.

merlante

shanethemofo wrote:

If right now, there were 40 people in this complex. 5 people were in the pool swimming and the other 35 were in the gym running could you categorise them all as swimmers? NO obviously not, you would say that there are 5 swimmers and 35 gym users.

I don't get your point? It's the '5 guys' ruining the plaza he is complaining about, not the 35 other guys hanging around (or so it seems to me).

It is the people who are actually skating with skateboards on the vulnerable surfaces of the plaza that people are complaining about.

The crux of the matter, before people get carried away again, is that the skateboarders are doing damage through the extensive wear and tear accruing from the stunts/tricks performed day in day out in the plaza. This causes paint to be scratched/removed, benches to be broken, and, sooner or later, class to be broken.

Anyone who is not a part of this process is exempt from 90% of the 'abuse' toward skateboarders here. The other 10% is probably down to the fact that the area is taken over by the skateboarders, and other teenage groups?, and many do not feel safe or comfortable being in the plaza where various illegal, dangerous or suspicious activities may be going on. Plus they probably don't want to get a skateboard in the head.

The reason why the skateboarders are not going to 'win' this argument is because they are standing over the damage that they are doing to the plaza. Excuses such as a) there is nowhere else to go, b) the skatepark in the RSC is inadequate, etc., etc. do not justify illegal damage to the plaza. And they will not be taken as valid excuses by those on here. (Because they weren't the last time.) They may create a compelling case for the new skatepark, which I believe the council is building in the park, but it does *not* justify what is happening in the plaza right now.

Trotter

merlante wrote:

I don't get your point? It's the '5 guys' ruining the plaza he is complaining about, not the 35 other guys hanging around (or so it seems to me).

It is the people who are actually skating with skateboards on the vulnerable surfaces of the plaza that people are complaining about.

The crux of the matter, before people get carried away again, is that the skateboarders are doing damage through the extensive wear and tear accruing from the stunts/tricks performed day in day out in the plaza. This causes paint to be scratched/removed, benches to be broken, and, sooner or later, class to be broken.

Anyone who is not a part of this process is exempt from 90% of the 'abuse' toward skateboarders here. The other 10% is probably down to the fact that the area is taken over by the skateboarders, and other teenage groups?, and many do not feel safe or comfortable being in the plaza where various illegal, dangerous or suspicious activities may be going on. Plus they probably don't want to get a skateboard in the head.

The reason why the skateboarders are not going to 'win' this argument is because they are standing over the damage that they are doing to the plaza. Excuses such as a) there is nowhere else to go, b) the skatepark in the RSC is inadequate, etc., etc. do not justify illegal damage to the plaza. And they will not be taken as valid excuses by those on here. (Because they weren't the last time.) They may create a compelling case for the new skatepark, which I believe the council is building in the park, but it does *not* justify what is happening in the plaza right now.

Sums up my thinking exactly. I fully respect these people's right to enjoy their sport. However, I have a right to run on the plaza, and to use the public seating there. I cant do that if skateboarders are breaking the rule of no skateboarding.

Fajitas!

merlante wrote:

I don't get your point? It's the '5 guys' ruining the plaza he is complaining about, not the 35 other guys hanging around (or so it seems to me).

It is the people who are actually skating with skateboards on the vulnerable surfaces of the plaza that people are complaining about.

The crux of the matter, before people get carried away again, is that the skateboarders are doing damage through the extensive wear and tear accruing from the stunts/tricks performed day in day out in the plaza. This causes paint to be scratched/removed, benches to be broken, and, sooner or later, class to be broken.

Anyone who is not a part of this process is exempt from 90% of the 'abuse' toward skateboarders here. The other 10% is probably down to the fact that the area is taken over by the skateboarders, and other teenage groups?, and many do not feel safe or comfortable being in the plaza where various illegal, dangerous or suspicious activities may be going on. Plus they probably don't want to get a skateboard in the head.

The reason why the skateboarders are not going to 'win' this argument is because they are standing over the damage that they are doing to the plaza. Excuses such as a) there is nowhere else to go, b) the skatepark in the RSC is inadequate, etc., etc. do not justify illegal damage to the plaza. And they will not be taken as valid excuses by those on here. (Because they weren't the last time.) They may create a compelling case for the new skatepark, which I believe the council is building in the park, but it does *not* justify what is happening in the plaza right now.

Here here.

shanethemofo

Merlante you appear to have misinterpreted what I said. Please read the post, two posts before mine and then read my post.

Shane

merlante

shanethemofo wrote:

Merlante you appear to have misinterpreted what I said. Please read the post, two posts before mine and then read my post.

Okay, so someone implies that the bystanders as well as the skateboarders are delinquents, and is in general dismissive of skateboarders (and their spelling). This is hair splitting. The point is, the skateboarders skating in the plaza are in the wrong, and I can understand why people are getting annoyed with them.

So if you disagree with what I've said, and what others have agreed with, please reply to my previous post where I summarised my points. I won't get into arguing about side issues.

mayordenis

i'll get annoyed with skateboarders for skating in the plaza once they have somewhere else to skateboard (please don't start about the RSC) until then i have no issue's with them being there and making use of it, in fact if you like the sport and watch any of them (and some of the younger skateboarders in waterford are very good) they can be entertaining, on a sunny day in the plaza.

merlante

mayordenis wrote:

(please don't start about the RSC)

I will start about the skatepark in the RSC.

It was built at a time when skateparks all over the country were closing because of escalating insurance, when many towns could (and can) no longer afford to have a St. Patrick's day parade. The council manage to get an affordable insurance deal for skateboarders, provided the park is run on a club basis, etc., at what I assume was and (maybe is still) quite a bit of effort on their part. They consulted with skaterboarders we hear, to make sure that the plan was okay.

Very enlightened, I think to myself. But I have a little cynical thought at the back of my mind, that the park just won't be 'hard core' enough, or whatever, for the skateboarders, because it has to meet all this criteria in order to get insurance. Then it turns out that the plaza continues to be used despite the new park... and continues to be broken up...

Now it emerges that the council, in what I suppose must be an unprecedented commitment to skateboarders, anywhere in Ireland, and probably much further afield, are building a *second* skatepark for a city of only 50,000 people.

So rather than looking down your noses at the skatepark out in the RSC, why not acknowledge the fact that for all ye're whining Waterford City Council have been very good to skateboarders and are continuing to invest in your facilities!

Now, call my cynical, but I have this feeling that when this new, second, park is opened, it won't be 'cool' or 'hardcore' or 'organic' enough for a section of the skateboarding fraternity, and that they'll all be back wrecking the plaza a few days later! Probably complaining about having 'nowhere else to go' and 'don't get me started on the RSC park or the one in the people's park', etc., etc.

At what point do people take responsibility for the damage they are doing? (When they start paying tax?)

mayordenis

look, this is rediculously unfair on skateboarders,
you make many points that an outsider to the sport may believe are completely justified but infact they are not, as a sportsman i would consider myself a footballer not a skater and i look at "the city of 50,000" (i was under the illusion it was closer to 70,000) and dont see why it needs 70 odd full size football pitches,

and no the council have not been very good to skateboaders by any stretch of the imagination, when there is a real skate park then fair enough but the current one is not "not hardcore" it is infact rubbish, and very dangerous because of the materials its made out of.

if they listen to the skateboard community the skatepark will be designed well and embraced by the vast majority, if not then the council will have more damages to deal with and will have to take responsibility for wasting more money, in my eyes and many others that what the RSC skatepark is, a very dangerous un-usable waste of money.

you've clearly got a chip on your shoulder so this will more than likely fall on deaf ears.

merlante wrote:

Now, call my cynical

apoligies i forgot to call you cynical,
well you are.

shanethemofo

mayordenis wrote:

look, this is rediculously unfair on skateboarders,
you make many points that an outsider to the sport may believe are completely justified but infact they are not, as a sportsman i would consider myself a footballer not a skater and i look at "the city of 50,000" (i was under the illusion it was closer to 70,000) and dont see why it needs 70 odd full size football pitches,

and no the council have not been very good to skateboaders by any stretch of the imagination, when there is a real skate park then fair enough but the current one is not "not hardcore" it is infact rubbish, and very dangerous because of the materials its made out of.

if they listen to the skateboard community the skatepark will be designed well and embraced by the vast majority, if not then the council will have more damages to deal with and will have to take responsibility for wasting more money, in my eyes and many others that what the RSC skatepark is, a very dangerous un-usable waste of money.

you've clearly got a chip on your shoulder so this will more than likely fall on deaf ears.



apoligies i forgot to call you cynical,
well you are.

And merlante, thats what happens when the sh*t hits the fan. Marvelous post mayordenis.

Shane

merlante

mayordenis wrote:

look, this is rediculously unfair on skateboarders,

Do skateboarders, or do they not, cause damage to the plaza? Is there, or is there not, a skatepark in existence, that could be used?

mayordenis wrote:

you make many points that an outsider to the sport may believe are completely justified but infact they are not, as a sportsman

Care to mention any of them?

mayordenis wrote:

i would consider myself a footballer not a skater and i look at "the city of 50,000" (i was under the illusion it was closer to 70,000) and dont see why it needs 70 odd full size football pitches,

No, it's 50,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland/Largest_100

I am well aware of the fact that there are more sports pitches, but how may of them are paid for by the council?

Also, you must be aware that skateboarding is actually a minority sport and therefore 2 parks for 50,000 people is actually very good.

mayordenis wrote:

if they listen to the skateboard community the skatepark will be designed well and embraced by the vast majority, if not then the council will have more damages to deal with and will have to take responsibility for wasting more money, in my eyes and many others that what the RSC skatepark is, a very dangerous un-usable waste of money.

So basically, you're threatening the council and the public: if you don't build us a skatepark we like, we will take over other public spaces and wreck them in the process.

Thanks guys! Do you see why people are getting annoyed here?

mayordenis wrote:

you've clearly got a chip on your shoulder so this will more than likely fall on deaf ears.

Is this supposed to advance your argument? Yet another response with no explanation or apology for damage done to the plaza.

shanethemofo

*hulk voice*

YOU MAKE MERLANTE ANGRY.
MERLANTE GO ON POINTLESS RANT MAKING NO SENSE IN PROCESS... GRRRRR

looksee

Merlante makes a lot of sense. And if a skateboard park is so important to you why not do what other sports groups do and get together to raise money towards it. I enjoy watching good skateboarding (I'm way past doing it) but I'm not likely to see any broadcast from the Plaza.

mayordenis

merlante wrote:

Do skateboarders, or do they not, cause damage to the plaza? Is there, or is there not, a skatepark in existence, that could be used?

yes they do cause damage
and
no they're is not another park that could be used, there is a park but whether it can be used is another matter entirely.

merlante wrote:

Care to mention any of them?

more or less you saying that people should be happy to have any park at all, it's siply not suitable i'm sorry that this offends you but if anything it's an insult.

merlante wrote:

No, it's 50,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland/Largest_100

wikipedia is less than or equal to fact - usually less than

merlante wrote:

I am well aware of the fact that there are more sports pitches, but how may of them are paid for by the council?

i can't honestly say but i'm sure there is a reasonable amount of funding coming the of local sports teams, i don't have a figure and for all i know it could be zero but do you or anyone else think that is the case???

merlante wrote:

Also, you must be aware that skateboarding is actually a minority sport and therefore 2 parks for 50,000 people is actually very good.

You must be aware that people should still be alowed to participate in a sport and in a country like this there is no reason not to have good facilities to accomadate such people.
maybe it's a minority sport because of a lack of facilities maybe the stigma is what kills the popularity, think about that maybe.

merlante wrote:

So basically, you're threatening the council and the public: if you don't build us a skatepark we like, we will take over other public spaces and wreck them in the process.

threat??? are you just picking words out of the sky??
i simply said as a matter of fact that people will continue to use the only flat ground with usable obsticles available to them until there is a more satisfactory option, currently such an option those not exist.

merlante wrote:

Is this supposed to advance your argument? Yet another response with no explanation or apology for damage done to the plaza.

an apology?? i have nothing to apoligise for i packed in skateboarding about 5 years ago but i'm standing up for people i don't know because i understand that it's frustrating, but seriously don't ask me or expect me to apoligise and i wouldn't hold your breath on the current crop of skateboards to come rushing out with apoligies either, they don't owe anybody and apology.

looksee wrote:

I enjoy watching good skateboarding but I'm not likely to see any broadcast from the Plaza.

might see some in this new skatepark if its up to scratch.

shanethemofo

looksee wrote:

And if a skateboard park is so important to you why not do what other sports groups do and get together to raise money towards it.

The council would never have it. (e.g Tramore)

Bards

All the football pitches that you mention with the expecption of the RSC were provided by football clubs and not with public money (Apart from a few grants from the lottery funds)

You don't see other "sportspeople" as you like to be called causing damage to public property. I also reckon that if Skateboards didn't skate & hang around the Plaza that most of the hanger-ons would go elsewhere too (in my opinion)

You could always go to Johnny's house and skate on his parents nice new deck and furniture and see what his parents would say to that

BadCharlie

mayordenis wrote:

if they listen to the skateboard community the skatepark will be designed well and embraced by the vast majority, if not then the council will have more damages to deal with and will have to take responsibility for wasting more money, in my eyes and many others that what the RSC skatepark is, a very dangerous un-usable waste of money.QUOTE]

If you read the first page you will c that I posted up saying that Skateboarders have had meetings with WCC about the park. I believe the skateboarders who held the meeting were picked by fellow skateboarders to represent them. I also know english experts in skateparks came over to help design and build the skatepark. And if the skatepark does not live up what people want then they only have them selfs to blame.

I like seeing people doing there skateboarding around the city of Waterford. But when you see them jumping up on seats and concrete/stone walls, and then see the damage caused because of it . It’s just a sign of no respect for the city by the younger generation skateboarders.

dave.saved

look not all skateboarders are abusive fekers and scumbags der is some by what you guys are saying but not every person who skates is irresponsible/scumbag/boozer/vandal, and what if one of those old ladies said something abusive to the skater, it is the 21st century and it wouldnt suprise me if she did say something offensive, and most of the damage done on the plaza was caused by all the other goths/emo poers hangn around on d plaza not all of them but most of them gettn pissed and spray painting all over it bu sinc the by-law came in idont think there has been a spec of spraypaint touched on the plaza, and the skatepark in d RSC is a joke tbh, its aimed at younger kids, and in d last topic which was deleted freddie59 or one of ye moaners sed 'and now ther're wrekn the whole park jus for them' the gov. is re-developing the park ne way if there is gonna b a skatepark init or not so its not jus for us its for EVERYONE, so quit yer moaning ye where all kids at one stage, sorry for the abusive comments before but now im trying to settle this as mature as possible

dave.saved

merlante wrote:

And skateboarders do cause plenty of damage to the plaza. Just because you're not a fan of the RSC park doesn't mean you have to go straight to one of the cities main amenities!

I just dont understand how d skaters "cause" SO much(overexagerated)damage by simply ollieing(jumping) of a leadge onto the wooden or concrete ground? ne one care to xplain?and the benches on the plaza if the goov. put an Lbrak et on d eadge of them they wudn get "vandalised" either and no skater enjoys d RSC ask ne of them, and it's closed more than its open

Cabaal

dave.saved, for gods sake will you either learn to spell or stop with the text speak as its against the rules.