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yeehawwwwwwwwwwwwww!

any blues around here? we were due that a long time, and im not too surprised we nailed them like that. they were terrible for the first two goals and AJ is a real poacher we havent seen since the likes of tony cottee..

PiE

Cool.

el rabitos

*tumbleweed*








...........*crickets*

Rollo Tamasi

tumbleweed the thread after 5 minutes!!!! :rolleyes:

AJ is going to hit 20+ goals this season. I might put a few on him being the top scoring English player. His rivals are Rooney, Bent and Crouch at the minute. I doubt Bent will be able to score that much in a struggling Charlton team. Rooney isn't known for his massive scoring, but he has hit a few in already and then there is Crouch....

gustavo

is the OP named after an establishment off Lime Street in Liverpool?!

besty

Yea, well done Toffees.

thebaz

yeah i'm another blue -- this i believe is the best everton team , since the 80s , when i started supporting them .. how we have needed another striker since Rooneys departure .. and develop all the good work Moyes had done

Cyrus

steady on lads, ye have a decent first eleven, a few injuries and everton will be screwed, they have a top 10 squad at the moment and id be surprised if they finish above 7/8th.

They had a decent win against liverpool, but to be fair they somehow managed to win a game 3 nil where they were under the cosh most of the time and the scoreline flattered them.

Johnson was a great bit of business tho

mike65

They're coming out of the woodwork! One win over the RS does not make a season likewise for Livepool one loss against the BS does'nt ruin a season.

See you in May!

Mike.

The Muppet

I must have been looking at a different Everton V Liverpool game than everyone else. It was not as one sided as some are saying, Everton missed a few decent chances of their own.

Nice to see the pool fans being gracious in defeat as ever. :rolleyes:


Well done Everton.

Cyrus

which chances did they miss? i honestly cant remember anything of note apart from the goals

zAbbo

Cyrus wrote:

which chances did they miss? i honestly cant remember anything of note apart from the goals

Andy Johnsons chance, there was a few others as well.

cregser

As a Pool fan, congrats Everton. I hope you do well as long as you finish at least one space below us. (How about second). But I will be listening out for boos during every Everton substitution at Anfield.

I think Rafa made mistakes with his selection. I cringed when I heard who the ref was. I think Liverpool were just unlucky throughout the game - Riise injuring himself whilst picking up a yellow card after all 3 subs had been used typified the performance. But you make your own luck and Liverpool failed to capitalise on good approach play whilst Everton were solid throughout and with the exception of all the corners conceded, didn't look too flustered.

The Muppet wrote:

Nice to see the pool fans being gracious in defeat as ever. :rolleyes:

...good nickname.

The Muppet

cregser wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Muppet
Nice to see the pool fans being gracious in defeat as ever.

...good nickname.

How original.:D Truth Hurts Eh , did you read the threads on the game ?

cregser

The Muppet wrote:

How original.:D Truth Hurts Eh , did you read the threads on the game ?

I have read a few posts and I don't see anyone begrudging Everton. They're all rightly bemoaning a poor Liverpool performance. The Toffees weren't handed a 3-0, they worked well for it. But Liverpool fans expect their team to play well enough to beat teams like Everton.

I resent your "gracious as always :rolleyes:" comment because that last game that I remember Liverpool loosing 3-0 was Benifica in the CL. I was there and the Liverpool crowd stayed and applauded Benifica off the pitch. The Benifica fans stayed longer and applauded the Liverpool fans - they were visibly impressed and I met a few who said so. The fans are one of the reasons I chose to support Liverpool.

We only boo Chelsea, ManU and Everton (with thanks to Neville)

thebaz

mike65 wrote:

They're coming out of the woodwork!
Mike.

Surprised Everton havent already got there own thread here !
Its been hard work supporting the blues pre moyes , apart from '95 cup final win, we havn't had much to shout about .

The Muppet

cregser wrote:

I have read a few posts and I don't see anyone begrudging Everton.

You should read a few more. " *tumbleweed* ,the scoreline flattered them, They're coming out of the woodwork! " . Three disparaging quotes directed towards Everton fans in this thread alone , insinuating they had few fans and were lucky yesterday. Lucky is winning by a flukey goal or poor officials decision not winning 3 0. There are other ungracious comments in the Weekend fixtures thread, talk of dodgy ref for example.

Fact is Liverpool were comprehensively beaten by the better team on the day and while I would not tar all liverpool fans as being ungracious in defeat there cetainly was a element of bitterness here after the match yesterday.

cregser wrote:

I resent your "gracious as always :rolleyes:" ............................

Tough.

Bateman

cregser wrote:

the Liverpool crowd stayed and applauded Benifica off the pitch. The Benifica fans stayed longer and applauded the Liverpool fans - they were visibly impressed and I met a few who said so.

One big soppy love-in, in other words. :rolleyes:

Bateman

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

AJ is going to hit 20+ goals this season. I might put a few on him being the top scoring English player.

Might have been a good call at the start of the season, hardly a shrewd bet now, currently 3/1 favourite on betfair.

Cyrus

Bateman wrote:

One big soppy love-in, in other words. :rolleyes:

dont worry nothing everton will have to worry about anytime soon, it happened in the champions league

BlackWizard

An Everton thread?! Uhhh. A bit of luck doesnt change the fact that no one
like Evertonians. Go away. Find your own city

Liverpool-4-Eva

nlgbbbblth

thebaz wrote:

Surprised Everton havent already got there own thread here !
Its been hard work supporting the blues pre moyes , apart from '95 cup final win, we havn't had much to shout about .

won
League 1985, 1987
FA Cup 1984
European Cup Winners Cup 1985
Charity Shield 1984, 1985, 1986 (shared), 1987

also runners up
League 1986
FA Cup 1986, 1989
League Cup 1984

nlgbbbblth

Last time I was in Belfast I saw four joint Liverpool-Rangers scarves within the space of half an hour.

Oh we hate Bill Shankly, and we hate St John
But most of all, we hate Big Ron
And we'll hang the kopites one by one
On the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey

So to hell with Liverpool and Rangers too
We'll drown them all in the Mersey
And we'll fight, fight, fight with all our might
For the lads in the Royal Blue Jerseys.

MrJoeSoap

nlgbbbblth wrote:

Last time I was in Belfast I saw four joint Liverpool-Rangers scarves within the space of half an hour.

And...?

nlgbbbblth

MrJoeSoap wrote:

And...?

I wondered how the hell people can pay allegiance to two football clubs.

MrJoeSoap

nlgbbbblth wrote:

I wondered how the hell people can pay allegiance to two football clubs.

And both from countries other than their own by the sounds of it...

Simple answer:

Religion!

el rabitos

religion my ar$e, anyone who lets religion or politics dictate who they support needs a good swift kick, square in the a$$

MrJoeSoap

el rabitos wrote:

religion my ar$e, anyone who lets religion or politics dictate who they support needs a good swift kick, square in the a$$

Thats the reasoning behind plenty of peoples decisions. Seems the logical explanation for the Liverpool/Rangers connection in Belfast.

BlackWizard

Im a liverpool fan for political reasons.

Fergy dislikes Rangers because of religous reasons right? I could be wrong on that
one.

I'd love to see someone kick Fergy in the ass.

Kicking people is a horrible thing...

el rabitos

BlackWizard wrote:

Im a liverpool fan for political reasons.

what are these particular reasons? Oo

Guy:Incognito

el rabitos wrote:

what are these particular reasons? Oo

Maybe he's a lib dem?

Guy:Incognito

nlgbbbblth wrote:

won
League 1985, 1987
FA Cup 1984
European Cup Winners Cup 1985
Charity Shield 1984, 1985, 1986 (shared), 1987

also runners up
League 1986
FA Cup 1986, 1989
League Cup 1984

I dont think he meant EVER. I'm sure he knows that everton have won stuff before moyes took over, unless moyes is howard kendell in disguise.............hmmmmmmmm.

I assume he was getting at the fact that there hasnt been much since the success of the 80's tailed off. Either that or in his memory (he could be only young).

As for the match TFTF, the pundits seem to agree that Liverpool were hard done by. Should have been a free for a foul on Alonso before one of the Everton goals, 3 decent peno shouts, 2 stonewall and 1 that could have been given on a good day with the right ref. Same could be said for the challenge on finnan in the box for Evertons 1st, although that would have had to be a VERY generous ref. Gerrard hitting the inside and outside of the post, 2 of the goals could/would have been prevented by Carra had he not been having a shocker, esp AJ first.

Theres no accounting for a keeper doing what Reina did. Paul Robinson esque.

The Muppet

Stekelly wrote:

).

As for the match TFTF, the pundits seem to agree that Liverpool were hard done by.

Which Pundits are these? It wouldn't be Hanson and lawrenceson would it?;)

I don't see how anyone could describe a 3 0 defeat as being had done by.

ciaran76

BlackWizard wrote:

An Everton thread?! Uhhh. A bit of luck doesnt change the fact that no one
like Evertonians. Go away. Find your own city

Liverpool-4-Eva

I think you will find Everton were there first !!!!;)

eirebhoy

BlackWizard wrote:

Fergy dislikes Rangers because of religous reasons right? I could be wrong on that
one.

I'd love to see someone kick Fergy in the ass.

Ferguson played for Rangers and is a big Rangers fan. Although, what that has to do with Everton I don't know.

BlackWizard

I thought Fergy had problems with higher level management of Rangers because
his wife was catholic?

It was regarding a post someone made about how religion or politics should not
affect soccer.

Maybe he's a lib dem?

Maybe.. But im for Nuclear P0W3R

I just like Liverpool because of the history of the place. A lot of Irish went there
and made up a large amount of the population. Only thing I dislke about it is that
there are very few pubs that watch football in the city center. Especially
Arsenal -v- Man Utd games :mad:

Edit: I gotta stop posting on this thread

thebaz

Stekelly wrote:

I dont think he meant EVER. I'm sure he knows that everton have won stuff before moyes took over, unless moyes is howard kendell in disguise.............hmmmmmmmm.

I assume he was getting at the fact that there hasnt been much since the success of the 80's tailed off. Either that or in his memory (he could be only young).

Spot on -- we were the best team in the 80s , before Colin Harvey undid Kendals work -- best personal moment was beating ManU in '95 cup final.
But we are back, with a much stronger squad today, seam to be getting under the skin of the reds today, i wonder why ??

Guy:Incognito

The Muppet wrote:

Which Pundits are these? It wouldn't be Hanson and lawrenceson would it?;)

I don't see how anyone could describe a 3 0 defeat as being had done by.

MOTD, the guys during and after the match itself, goals on sunday.

Did you see the match?

Cyrus

thebaz wrote:

Spot on -- we were the best team in the 80s , before Colin Harvey undid Kendals work -- best personal moment was beating ManU in '95 cup final.
But we are back, with a much stronger squad today, seam to be getting under the skin of the reds today, i wonder why ??

Best team in the 80s go on ourra dat!

Liverpool league winners - 1979-80, 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84, 1985-86, 1987-88, 1989-90

FA Cup winners - 1986, 1989

European cup winners - 1981, 1984

And evertons squad has nothing go to do with the annoyance of pool fans, we should be beating teams like everton, thats whats so annoying, altho after 17 league games we were due a loss

Töpher

ciaran76 wrote:

BlackWizard wrote:

An Everton thread?! Uhhh. A bit of luck doesnt change the fact that no one
like Evertonians. Go away. Find your own city

Liverpool-4-Eva

I think you will find Everton were there first !!!!;)

Dublin? Thats where BlackWizard has as his city!

To those confused, may I suggest a map?

thebaz

Cyrus wrote:

And evertons squad has nothing go to do with the annoyance of pool fans, we should be beating teams like everton, thats whats so annoying, altho after 17 league games we were due a loss

???? Why would you be annoyed about evertons squad ... didn't think i had to spell out the reason for your irritability, but i will
Everton 3 Liverpool 0 (still feals good!).

Cyrus

Enjoy it, wont last

BlackWizard

Einst&#252 wrote: »

Dublin? Thats where BlackWizard has as his city!

To those confused, may I suggest a map?

Exsqueeze me?

gustavo

BlackWizard wrote:

An Everton thread?! Uhhh. A bit of luck doesnt change the fact that no one
like Evertonians. Go away. Find your own city

Liverpool-4-Eva

ahh the irony of an Irish Liverpool supporter telling an Irish Everton supporter to find their own city:D

whoops Einstürzende made my point more eloquently than I ever could:)

Töpher

gustavo wrote:

ahh the irony of an Irish Liverpool supporter telling an Irish Everton supporter to find their own city:D

whoops Einstürzende made my point more eloquently than I ever could:)

I do try! Well, not really, but it couldn't be helped!

Bluetonic

For all you Evertonians out there, the next two mathes are live on TV.

v Wigan on RTE2 on Satruday @ 3pm.
v The Posh on Sky Sports on Tuesday @ 7.45pm

ciaran76

I think Everton are on against Newcastle too at the weekend ?

Sky Sports 2 @ 4pm.

ciaran76

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/Articles/view.asp?CategoryID=-1&CategoryName=&ArticleID=393

Some Everton content !

In the back of a pub on Monday afternoon Wayne Rooney's nan was discussing anti-Catholic sectarianism in Liverpool of the 1950s. The Western Approaches pub is at the end of the street where young Rooney first went to school at Our Lady of St Swithin's Catholic Primary. It is not the most salubrious of gaffs and certainly would be out of place in most Dublin suburbs, where pub "gentrification" has spread like a rash. There's nothing genteel about the Western. On a bright afternoon, it was filled with noisy, overweight punters in tracksuits, holding betting slips and dragging on Embassies. It might not be pretty, but it and the adjacent Our Lady of the Martyrs Church, are at the heart of this community.

Across the road is St John Boscoe Catholic School for girls where one Miss Colleen Mc Cullough graduated three years ago and within 100 yards, is De La Salle Brothers Catholic Secondary School for Boys, where the man-child Rooney honed his footballing skills and where he was still a pupil when he made his Everton debut at 16.

This is an Irish part of town. All the older people, like Patricia Fitzsimons - Wayne Rooney's granny - were moved here in the slum clearances of the late1940s and 1950s. They, like thousands of Irish before them, lived in the Catholic area of Scotland Road or Scotty as they call it. Scotty is down by the docks, the first port of call for desperate Irish emigrants who flooded Liverpool for over 100 years after the Famine.

Even today, when only 10% of the population of England is Catholic, 60% of Croxteth's children are baptised Catholic. They are Irish, Catholic, Evertonians and proud of it. Even before Wayne Rooney exploded onto the scene, Patricia Fitzsimons was famous locally for being born on the 17th of March - thus the name Patricia. She's a lovely woman, with clear strong blue eyes, whose memories of running away from the King Billys (as she calls them) on the 12th of July, reiterate just how sectarian Liverpool was until recently. If you want to see the influence that the Irish have had on England, Croxteth is a good place to start.

"Could Wayne have played for Ireland?" I ventured with one eye on tonight's game. "Nah," replied Patricia, "He's English on the outside". She paused and then looked up "but Irish on the inside". She had another sip and settled in to watch the three thirty from Windsor.

Patricia Fitzsimons and her husband Billy Murray were married in St Dominic's Church and when the priest, Fr Mc Namee heard Billy's name, he double checked with Patricia that he wasn't "Orange". Once it was established he was a good Catholic, the marriage went ahead. (Not that a priest could have stopped this pair anyway.)

Their story, the story of Rooney's paternal grandparents and Coleen's is the tale of the Irish in Britain. While we at home know all about the Irish American experience, the history of the Irish in Britain is much less clear. This is despite the fact that over three quarters of all Irish people living outside the country, live in Britain.

Although numbers declined after the peak in 1971 when there 957,000 Irish-born people in Britain (there were only just over two million here), even in 1991 there were 850,000 Irish born people in the UK. Between 1950 and 1980, eight out of every ten Irish emigrants went to the UK. Even as late as 1988, 70% of all people leaving Ireland, chose to go to Britain. The largest number of Irish people in Britain now are in their later 60s and early 70s and are the remainder of those who left Ireland in the 1950s. There is another "bulge" of 1980s emigrants although it is considerably smaller.

There are now over 1 million second generation Irish in their 30s and 40s - the children of the great exodus in the 1950s - many of whom have strong links to us. For example, if you travel abroad with the football team (not that many will be doing that now) there are always considerably more English accents than you'd expect as the "plastic paddies" follow the team of their fathers in their thousands. The impact of these second generation Irishmen on the national team has always been evident and obviously reached its peak in the 1990s under Jack Charlton.

The second generation Irish have had a huge impact on English popular culture which is not always appreciated. Beginning with John Lennon - whose grandfather came from Dublin and who explored this aspect of his lineage extensively in the mid-1970s - many of England's most English of rebels were actually second generation Irish. In 1977 Johnny Rotten, the son of Irish immigrants, led the punk movement. In the 1980s, the embodiment of English Indie music was Morrisey - lead singer and lyricist of the Smiths - son of Crumlin parents. Similarly, in the 1990s the leaders of Brit-pop, Noel and Liam Gallagher were from the same stable. Steve Coogan - creator of the quintessential English nerd Alan Partridge - is second generation Irish. These are only the tip of the iceberg.

Every wave of Irish emigration to the UK has enriched English popular culture, whether it is sport like Rooney and Kevin Keegan or in music or the arts. Moreover, the English economy has done extremely well out of Irish labour - much as we are benefiting from immigrant labour at the moment.

However, today the relationship between the two countries has come full circle. In the past, we sent our labour to Britain and they invested their capital here. Today the opposite is the case: the English are by far the biggest immigrant group in Ireland. According to the CSO, 200,000 of the 400,000 new immigrants in the past few years have come from England. And the Irish are by far the biggest investors in English property!

Maybe in fifty years time we will have an English granny getting harassed by an English reporter in a bar in Dublin, asking whether her boy-wonder Irish footballer grandson could qualify to play for England.

thebaz

Raises the issue is Everton or Liverpool the real Irish team in Liverpool -- but with Liverpools growing fanbase in Ireland , and a recent strong Rangers link to Everton , all my freinds here say Liverpool is the real Irish team - but
with Carsleys performance last night i'm not so sure !!

Bluetonic

Andy Johnson is the FA Premier League Player of the Month for September.

The Blues' top scorer is only the third Everton player to win this award, following Kevin Campbell in 1999 and Duncan Ferguson in 1995.

He told evertonfc.com: "I was delighted when I found out that I had won this award.

"It's always nice to win things but I see this as a reward for the whole team. We've made a terrific start to the season and although the award will have my name on it, I wouldn't have scored six goals so far if the rest of the lads weren't playing so well.

"Any player joining a new club wants to get off to a good start and all the boys here have certainly helped me to do that. They've made it so easy for me to settle and I just hope that we can continue to play well and get good results."

Johnson netted four times during the month of September, including a brace in the memorable Merseyside derby victory over Liverpool.

The £8.6m hit-man has been a huge success since joining Everton from Crystal Palace during the summer and not only is he the Premiership's top scorer, he is also leading the way in the Actim Index player of the season chart.

ciaran76

Did Yobo not win that award too ?