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Weapons Amnesty Web Site

  • 31-08-2006 5:38pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭


    http://www.weaponsamnesty.com/

    Time now to hand in those spare M60's that might be hanging around Grand Ma's attic!

    Seriously, consider ones position in respect of anything that should be licensed, note that now blank firing pistols are classified as firearms, prior to this it was only the ammo, so if you own blank firing guns, hand them in or get an authorisation for them....................2 Months you have been warned or as the web site goes 61 days.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    I see many of the phone numbers are wrong on the Laois/Offaly 'Who to Contact' page :rolleyes:

    We recently changed to new codes (057, 058, 059) with a two digit prefix on the original number.
    Portlaoise, for example, would be 057-8674100, not 0502-74110 as listed.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    a macettie is an illegal weapon and by the sounds of it so is every thing in my garage and bedroom


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Yeah, a 'machete' somewhere far away = a 'beet knife' here in Ireland.

    Here's the bit from the FAQ-
    It is illegal to manufacture, sell or possess a range of offensive
    weapons such as a flick-knife, a knuckleduster, a swordstick or
    dagger cane, a sword umbrella, a machete, a belt buckle knife,
    a push dagger, a hollow kubotan (a cylinder with sharp spikes),
    a shuriken (death star), a balisong (butterfly knife), a telescopic
    truncheon, a blowpipe or blow gun, a kusari gama (a sickle on
    a chain), a kyoketsu shoge (a hooked knife on a chain), a kusari
    (a hard weight on a chain), a sap glove (a metal lined glove), or
    any weapon from which one or more sharp spikes protrude.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    or any weapon from which one or more sharp spikes protrude.
    *sigh*
    I better go hand in my cutlery drawer so. All them forks have to be far too dangerous for the likes of me. Hmmm. Better give in my rake as well...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Clare gunner


    Are they for real at all these people??????
    So ,as well as the kitchen forks,there go the manure forks,the garden fork,hollow tubes of any diameter,chains,any type of glove with a metal lineing,[change to a pair of biker gloves or soccer goalie gloves to have the same and lighter effect].
    So antique Halbreads,morning stars and battle axes ,war hammers,and maces are now illegal as well???
    Great,this will have a great photo opportunity for mc Dowell and other top brass to grin over heaps of junk in 31 days.
    This place gets nuttier and nuttier by the day.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭cushtac


    Are they for real at all these people??????
    So ,as well as the kitchen forks,there go the manure forks,the garden fork,hollow tubes of any diameter,chains,any type of glove with a metal lineing,[change to a pair of biker gloves or soccer goalie gloves to have the same and lighter effect].So antique Halbreads,morning stars and battle axes ,war hammers,and maces are now illegal as well???

    None of the above are illegal so long as:
      they're in your private residence, or you have a good reason for having them in public (Section 9 of Firearms & Offensive Weapons Act 1990);
    • you're not trespassing with such items in your possession (Section 10, Firearms & Offensive Weapons Act 1990);
      you're not unlawfully threatening someone with them (Section 11, Firearms & Offensive Weapons Act 1990); or
      you're not making, selling or otherwise providing them to others (Section 12, Firearms & Offensive Weapons Act 1990).
    This place gets nuttier and nuttier by the day.

    Given that this Act has been in force since 1991, we've been 'nutty' for fifteen years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 garmac


    Nutty is right.
    Blue Peter badge for whoever can identify the handgun shown in negative on the banner.
    Dear Mr Mc Dowell, I was just wondering if you wanted to sell that SPAS12 you have:D
    Is it just me or does something about the €20 notes in the pictures look suspect. The cops are using funny money!
    .....And we all know how many M60's(and break action air rifles) are used in drive by's and to knock off banks!
    Christ Almighty. Dunno whether I should laugh or cry. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    I'll say this in seriousness though - it's a bloody shame that they can have as good a website as that for this, but not for legitimate licencing of firearms...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Clare gunner


    Not to mind the deadly "cell phone gun" and "maglite shotgun "torch.
    Used every day and easily available.Already they are sooo passe and first gen!!! Wonder that they dont have the 22 revolver knife and Spetnatz "flying knife" as well??? Sure all of this is commonly available weaponary.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Well, it wasn't that long ago that a certain someone was getting in trouble for having a pen gun, CG...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭TomBeckett


    Yeah i had to laugh when i seen it on the news last nite and the cop saying just come in and say you found this gun wherever and that that!!

    Can you inaging walking in with say

    2 AK-47's with 2 100rd drum mags:cool:
    1500 rds if 7.62x39 ammo
    7 RPG's
    6 claymores
    4lbs of C4
    2000rds of 5.56 ammo
    2 AR-15 Bushmasters modified to full-auto:p
    4 Mp5's
    400rds of 9mm
    A Barrett light 50
    and 100rds of .50BMG

    And leave all this up on the counter and look at the cops Face:eek: :D:D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Are the cops traied to ensure these firarms are safe when being handed over?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭flight93


    no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    it say please insure the guns are unloaded

    why can we not buy these products at reduced prices the scope mon the rifle ,wouldent mind 8 or 10 of those


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Clare gunner


    Sparks wrote:
    Well, it wasn't that long ago that a certain someone was getting in trouble for having a pen gun, CG...

    still and all,not exactly a common street weapon in Ireland:) .And how long exactly was it in his safe????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭whupass


    if you use a chainsaw you have to have chainmail type gloves.

    can you imagine walking in and saying
    "i'd like to give something in?"
    "*sigh* ok put it on the table"
    "ehhh"
    "what?"
    "maybe you should come outside?"
    "what th..."
    "nono just come outside"
    so you bring him outside and guess what's hitched to the pickup? that's right a KS-30!!
    while he's stunned you take the time to tell hem the better news;)

    "you know the way bush went to Iraq because the had scuds? well sadam offloaded 'em on to me"
    "....:O"
    "I'm only shi*en you don't worry, but seriously, you gonna have to send sone pickups!"

    now that's a kodac moment!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    garmac wrote:
    Blue Peter badge for whoever can identify the handgun shown in negative on the banner.

    S&W MODEL 59?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Clare gunner


    CLADA wrote:
    S&W MODEL 59?

    I agree,
    BTW do we have to hand in all 20 Euro notes as well,since they are in the pics of weapons to be handed in????:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭cushtac


    whupass wrote:
    if you use a chainsaw you have to have chainmail type gloves.

    Then that counts as a good reason to have them in public & therefore you're allowed posess them. If you were found pucking the head off someone while wearing them, then you'd be in trouble. It's common sense really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    wouldent that hurt you more though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Clare gunner


    Errr chainmail gloves with a chainsaw?????you surely mean kevelar or just plain ol work gloves."Sap" gloves are loaded gloves with either powderd lead or sand.Can be used for either a club type weapon or worn to cause damage in a fight.[The old horseshoe in a boxing glove of cartoon fame comes to mind].As I said why bother with such,when you can get a pair of motorbike gloves that have reenforced knuckle protection or goalie gloves that are built like that as well.??Less suss and will do as much damage to somone.
    A head walking around wearing dress gloves might be suss,but said head wearing motorbike gear and gloves and full face helmet for protection and aynmonity[sic]??
    Actually,the chainsaw would beat a bunch of banned martial art junk weapons anyday.The broadsword of the 20th centuary,the damn things are dangerous even when they are not running!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭whupass


    no you have to get chainmail gloves


  • Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whupass wrote:
    no you have to get chainmail gloves

    What are you on about??

    Chainmail gloves??

    Apart from the fact that if you used real 'chain-mail' you will have the same dexterity as you get from a pair of mittens, which would be incredibly stupid while using a chain saw; their are no laws for using chainsaws!

    Personally I just use ordinary workgloves.


    For Clare_Gunner:
    banner_chainsawfencing.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Clare gunner


    Whupass,
    i use a chainsaw every year for cutting appx ten tons of firewood for our house.I have never SEEN or heard of chainmail gloves for a chainsaw!!! For bandsaws and meatsaws yes,but all chainsaw gloves I have ever seen are filled with either ballistic wool or kevelar.Wouldnt like to handle a big hunk of wood with chainmail,the chance of a squeeze or crush injury to your hands is multiplied.Plus the most chainsaw injuries are either leg or head injuries from either kick back, falling or stumbling with a running saw or crush injuries from falling wood on feet or hands.Actual handcuts are rare.Apart from the odd fool who tries to clear his saw with the motor running.:rolleyes:

    Psycho,
    would that make it to the olympics as a new sport???Was thinking more Mad Max ,beyond Thunderdome meself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭whupass


    my friend is a lumberjack (hehe lumberjack) and he had to spend €1000 on safety gear before he even got a chainsaw. it's not a pair of gloves it's just for one hand, maybe not chainmail but reenforced with metal.


  • Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whupass wrote:
    my friend is a lumberjack (hehe lumberjack) and he had to spend €1000 on safety gear before he even got a chainsaw. it's not a pair of gloves it's just for one hand, maybe not chainmail but reenforced with metal.



    Pro lumberjacks prob have to go all out on safety gear for insurance, but as a private indivdual, working in my own private land: I could cut up wood naked! (and prob be end up winning a Darwin award!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jaycee


    H410-0022.gif
    Comfort gloves - five finger with saw protection
    Shaped and reinforced palm. Exposed areas are seamless and reinforced with leather. Waterproof kid leather palm and hard-wearing, water-repellent polyester back. Meets requirements of: EN 381-4, -7, EN 420:1, EN 388, class 0, 16 m/s.

    http://www.ie.husqvarna.com/?url=%2Fnode2177%2Easp%3Fcid%3D193%26frames%3Dfalse


    Just to let people see what Husqvarna recommends ..
    (Not too sure they would be much good for shooting .... ) :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭whupass


    you have to give in nunchuckes????? i assume being a martial arts teacher allows you to have them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Okay folks, we're so far off topic here it's silly. Back to the original topic please...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 garmac


    I'm sorry if this is still off topic but CG & Clada, as promised: http://www.dakoflyingangels.homestead.com/Blue_Peter_badge.jpg
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    seriously are they just going to destroy every weapon they get.

    I would love to browse through the selection and pick out a nice scope or a decent rifle.

    It'd be like an oxfam store but for guns


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    From the FAQ-
    What happens to guns that are surrendered to the Gardaí?
    The weapon will be forensically tested and where it has been used in a crime the forensic evidence and weapon will be admissible in the prosecution of that crime. The vast majority will be destroyed. Some unusual or rare examples may get passed to museums.
    There's good P.R. mileage in being seen 'rendering eeeevil weapons harmless', so I'd expect to see photo opportunities of various worthies (senior Gardai, the Minister/sundry politicians, etc.) wearing serious but satisfied expressions as they watch assorted ironmongery going into the smelter/crusher.

    The bit about "unusual or rare examples may get passed to museums" gives me some hope that someone who knows what they're doing will be looking through the intake, but I'd strongly suspect that the possibility of anything taken in being made available to the public would be close to zero.
    It just wouldn't be politically sustainable for stuff brought in 'in the interests of public safety' to be released back into general circulation again.

    Perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not holding my breath.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭Terrier


    Over the last two weeks the Local papers here in Galway have report very little uptake on the weapons amnesty with only a few airguns being handed it.

    Any other regional papers pushing this every week?
    Any reports on the amount of weapons being handed in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Clare gunner


    Nothing being surrenderd in Limerick sofar.
    I wonder why I am not abit surprised.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    Nothing being surrenderd in Limerick sofar.
    I wonder why I am not abit surprised.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


    :D:D:D:o:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Hezz700


    Would any of you, hand in an original and working Colt Army 1873 that was in the attic since the twentys knowing that it would most probably be detroyed:eek: ???

    Hezz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭BOBTHESHOOTER


    Hezz700 wrote:
    Would any of you, hand in an original and working Colt Army 1873 that was in the attic since the twentys knowing that it would most probably be detroyed:eek: ???

    Hezz.

    If it is an original you would be crazy to hand it in, there is nothing to stop you taking it to a firearsm dealer and he can legally put it on his books, sell it for you if you want, I am sure that you would be able to sell it, PM me and I will let you know how to proceed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    this was i hypothetical Quetion no one has the afor mentioned gun it was just an example

    careful now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭spideog7


    Why not auction off a few rifle scopes...and even some of the seized weapons come in, in sweet pelican cases... I mean they are not illegal... and they auction off recovered bicycles.

    but this country the way it is, it all comes down to who you know....and you just have to know the right garda :mad:



    .......that'd be the one who has a massive fireworks display out the back every halloween !!!! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭benhurt1


    What about the extending baton I robbed from a movie set as a souvenir?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    Extending batons are illegal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭Terrier


    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, Arial][/FONT]Independent Today
    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, Arial] 30 weapons handed in so far under amnesty[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial] [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial] TIRTY illegally held weapons have been handed in to gardai during the first 10 days of the two-month Government amnesty, writes Tom Brady.
    The haul includes a live grenade and a number of firearms, which could be lethal in the possession of crime gangs.
    The Department of Justice said last night that it was pleased with the success rate so far and that it was never anticipated that a huge supply of illegal weapons would become available from criminal sources.
    The amnesty was launched by Justice Minister Michael McDowell at the start of the month and will continue until the end of October.
    On the following day the minister will introduce minimum mandatory custodial sentences of between five and 10 years for a range of serious firearms offences.
    The amnesty is aimed at giving those in possession of offensive weapons an opportunity to surrender them before the tough sentences are implemented by the courts.
    The firearms handed in to date include six shotguns, four rifles, three revolvers, two starter pistols, air pistols, air rifles and pellet guns. The amnesty campaign is being strongly backed by Kathleen and Peter Cleary, whose daughter, Donna (22), the mother of a two-year-old boy, was murdered when shots were fired indiscriminately into a house in the north Dublin suburb of Coolock last March.
    [/FONT]
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    [/FONT]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭cushtac


    benhurt1 wrote:
    What about the extending baton I robbed from a movie set as a souvenir?

    There's no good reason for you to carry this, so it's illegal.

    Have a look at the Firearms & Offensive Weapons Act 1990 & decide for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭LB6




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Dvs


    30 weapons handed in under Govt’s firearms amnesty
    15/09/2006 - 11:42:26



    Thirty weapons ranging from shotguns to starting pistols have been handed in during the first 10 days of a firearms amnesty announced by the Department of Justice earlier this month.

    The surrendered weapons include six shotguns, four rifles, three revolvers, two starting pistols, two air pistols, two air rifles, two pellet guns and a stun gun.

    A WWI grenade and four knives have also been handed in at garda stations around the country.

    The amnesty is due to continue until the end of this month.

    It offers people immunity from prosecution for illegally held guns, but not for any offences that may have been committed with those guns.

    Minister for Justice Michael McDowell has already said he does not expect the initiative to have any effect on crime as criminals are unlikely to surrender their weapons.

    No **** Sherlock!

    Dvs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    two pellet guns
    I wonder if they mean airsoft guns - in which case, someone just handed in two non-firearms under the firearms amnesty...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    From the RTE News site-
    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, Helvetica]30 weapons handed over in amnesty[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana, Helvetica]

    15 September 2006 09:38
    [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]

    Thirty weapons have been handed over to the gardaí in the first ten days of the guns and knives amnesty.
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The weapons include shotguns, rifles, revolvers and a variety of pistols.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ballistics specialists are also examining a crossbow, a musket, a theatre pistol and a stun gun.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The amnesty will run until the end of October and then mandatory minimum sentences for a range of firearms offences will be introduced.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Four knives have also been handed in along with a grenade, which was live. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The gardaí in Cork had gone to collect a gun from a man who also showed them the explosive. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The man did not know what it was and gardaí had to call in the army bomb disposal unit.[/FONT]
    ...and an audio link from Morning Ireland-
    http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/2173253.smil
    Go to 5:10 into the segment.

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Clare gunner


    How do you examine a crossbow and stun gun for forensics?????
    BTW the telescoping baton...intresting as that is now becoming part of std equipment with the Gardai.Oh well,a good old piece of lead pipe INMHO is and always be a better head modifier.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    he dident know it was a grenade?
    odd thing to have lying around the house

    runn down the hloe when you see me bunny will you i'll fix that


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