Its F*CKING HUGE!

quad_red

Hey,
Pics below of the PS3 with size comparisons with the 360 and the PS2.

iregk

thats also shown without the mamoth power supply!

KTRIC

They should just rename it the "Jumbotron 3000" and get it over with.

LookingFor

It looks about as big as the first Xbox.

iregk wrote:

thats also shown without the mamoth power supply!

At E3, Sony said it was internal. Which might help explain the extra size.

Finally, one bit of controversy cleared up. IT Media closed up the interview by asking Kawanishi if the PS3 has its power source built into the system, like the old PS2 model, or if it is separate from the system, like the slim PS2 and the Xbox 360. "It's of course internal," responded Kawanishi. "It's better that way. We of course do things the good way."

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/708/708601p1.html



By the way, some pictures of final PS3 development kits have leaked out as well:



IGN talks about it a bit here. Apparently the kits run very quiet and cool. Sony's claim is that the retail model will be as quiet as a slim PS2, which would be very nice.

quad_red

that can produce such smooth looking phones, such class looking tvs/hi-fi's, can produce a hideous looking device like the PS3. Whatevers under the bonnet, the look of the thing will put alot of people off.

projectmayhem

iregk wrote:

thats also shown without the mamoth power supply!

psu is inside the console, unlike the 360... which is why it's so heavy and big...

well, at least you know when your back goes out from lifting it that you really did spend €600 worth of electronics...

savemejebus

quad_red wrote:

that can produce such smooth looking phones, such class looking tvs/hi-fi's, can produce a hideous looking device like the PS3. Whatevers under the bonnet, the look of the thing will put alot of people off.

seriously doubt that, look at the original ps2, it looked like (and sounded like) a small fan heater. The original playstation looked dreadful and the xbox 360 looks like a small (p4 gen) dell optiplex desktop. I don't think the ps3 is that big really (the comparison pic of the 360, ps2 and ps3 shows there isn't much in it tbh) and one thing it has going for it is that people will be able to buy it in colours that will match their home entertainment system.

I never understood how microsoft put out the xbox in white as that is the one colour you rarely see home av equipment in.

iregk

projectmayhem wrote:

psu is inside the console, unlike the 360... which is why it's so heavy and big...

Ah very good, hadn't heard that, that does explain quite a bit. Still, when you not playing it at least you'll be able to get some exercise and bench press it!!!!

Still a hideous looking machine but I have to say no to previous post. The PS1 was a classy looking machine. Ok the PS2 looked like a car amplifier gone wrong and the PS3 looks like a George Forman Grill but still thats a side issue.

The Wii, now thats a classy looking machine.

savemejebus

sorry i should be specific, i meant the big grey playstation not the small ps1

totally agree about the wii

quad_red

looking back at the original PS1, it looks crap.

But I can clearly remember thinking that it looked the ****

Up to the PS3, the worst looking console was the monstrous 'clear' xbox. It looked like something that should be beside a hospital bed.

The best looking console I've seen has to be the Wii - classy. Before that, the silver slim PS2 had to be it.

monument

So, add the 360 psu to the pics and the PS3 isn't much bigger.

projectmayhem wrote:

well, at least you know when your back goes out from lifting it that you really did spend €600 worth of electronics...

PiE

Pics below of the PS3 with size comparisons with the 360 and the PS2.

Looks like a George Foreman grill.

GrumPy

LookingFor wrote:

It looks about as big as the first Xbox.

It looks significantly bigger to me. Guess we will have to wait. I think it's hideous anyway, but the fact there will be more than one colour option is good.

EDIT: It is alot bigger....

Use as a scale.

Zapp Brannigan

Oh no! The console is big!!

It will fit under everyones tellys so who cares what size it is?
The reason I won't be buying it is because of the high price, not it's size.

shortys94

If its that big theres gotta be something good special in it:P

LookingFor

Irish GrumPy wrote:

It looks significantly bigger to me. Guess we will have to wait. I think it's hideous anyway, but the fact there will be more than one colour option is good.

EDIT: It is alot bigger....

Use as a scale.

I'll prefer to use the actual released dimensions as a scale Sitting each system horizontally, it's 5mm wider than the original xbox, 2mm shorter, and 14mm deeper i.e. "about as big as the first Xbox." At most you could say it's a little bigger, although its pronounced curvature (versus Xbox's 'boxiness') means that its actual volume is probably smaller.

acri

i like the look of the ps3. kinda like a streamline old cassette player. anyway, i don't think weight should be much of a factor. i don't think many people carry their consoles around with them.

i'm at a loss though wether or not to fork out for the ps3 this winter or to wait when the price drops. i think it's criminal that we should pay €132 ($169) more for the 60G machine than they would in the states.

i also think that the Wii will fall beneath the other next gen consoles. nintendo took a leap forward in innovation with the ds and it paid off (it's far more fun to play than the psp), but i can't see it working in the console market.

GrumPy

LookingFor wrote:

i.e. "about as big as the first Xbox." At most you could say it's a little bigger, although its pronounced curvature (versus Xbox's 'boxiness') means that its actual volume is probably smaller.

You cant be serious? it's a good deal bigger than the old xbox ffs!

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/27668/33274.jpg

LookingFor

Irish GrumPy wrote:

You cant be serious? it's a good deal bigger than the old xbox ffs!

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/27668/33274.jpg

You're linking to a picture of the 360 and the PS3?

I'm comparing the original Xbox's official dimensions with the PS3's official dimensions. It seems a more reliable way of doing it that eyeing photographs that don't even have the Xbox and PS3 together.

PS3 is slightly bigger than the old Xbox in two dimensions (width and depth), and very slightly smaller in one dimension (height).

PS3 Dimensions: Approximately 325mm (W) x 98mm (H) x 274mm (D) (source: http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ce.pdf).

Xbox Dimensions: Approximately 320mm (W) x 100 (H) x 260mm (D) (source: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemsetup/xbox/resources/consolespecs.htm)

GrumPy

What's the size difference between the 360 and ps3 though? I still think the ps3 LOOKS a good bit bigger than the original xbox, nvm the 360.

LookingFor

The 360 is 309mm (W) x 83mm (H) x 258mm (D).

Looks can be deceptive. PS3's size I think is exagerrated by its convex form (makes it look fatter), and the layered design which makes it look taller when sitting horizontally. By comparison, the Xbox is box-shaped, no layers, not as pronounced a curve etc.

GrumPy

The ps3 dev kit design is more practical Least you could put stuff on top of it! other game consoles, etc.. the curvyness of the ps3 makes the shape not very practical.

bennyx_o

I don't see why people complain about the size/weight. I mean, like some people have said, it'll sit under the tv and probably stay there, the same with weight. The only time most people will carry it is bringing it home. The fact it has internet gaming means instead of carrying it around to a friends house, you'll just play over the internet.

projectmayhem

just compared my xbox to the 360... anyone moaning about ps3 should shhh asap

stev2604

Not buying the PS3 because of its size is just rubbish. Im not gonna buy one but its because of the price!

GrumPy

projectmayhem wrote:

just compared my xbox to the 360... anyone moaning about ps3 should shhh asap

360 xbox ps3

Smallest first.

projectmayhem

Irish GrumPy wrote:

360 xbox ps3

Smallest first.

not exactly an epic difference tbh

iregk

I honestly dont know what problem people have with the size ofit. Sure haven't we had video players under our tv's for years!

My crystal xbox is sitting under the tv and I couldn't care less about its size or weight. I haven't moved it since I put it there and its the only thing on the shelf so whats the problem!!!

Ciaran500

iregk wrote:

My crystal xbox is sitting under the tv and I couldn't care less about its size or weight. I haven't moved it since I put it there and its the only thing on the shelf so whats the problem!!!

Because some of us do have to move it and space can be at a premium depending on your circumstances.

BlitzKrieg

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=12742&type=mov&pl=game


Seriously wtf? That thing is a bloody monster.

This is the first time I got to see a practical shot of the PS3 as a unit and I cant help but feel that the main reason for going all *no cables* with the controllers is to avoid this 5kg monster breaking the floor by a snagged cable.

If I could afford it I would buy one just to start smackin it and the xbox together to see which breaks first.

Apart from that the controller is allright I guess, I mean its not wow but its functional and looks comfortable. Better then the klingon sex toy they were originally going to use.

No other surprises really all the ports and required holes seem to be in order, it looks like its an upgrade on the structure of the PS2 (switch at back, general shape)

Speaking of structure, it looks like the love child of an early 90's VCR (the ones with the flip up/down cover so the buttons dont get kicked) and a Fridge.

I wait with excitement for the news report of some kid killing his friend by clubbing him over the head with his PS3.

EDIT:

oh 2 more things

1. Whats with the white gloves when taking it out?

and will they come with the PS3 when purchased?

Kiith

BlitzKrieg wrote:

I wait with excitement for the news report of some kid killing his friend by clubbing him over the head with his PS3.

At that size, you'll need some sort of super kid to be able to use it as a club . Still can't make myself look forward to the ps3. Just doesnt seem worth the €599 price tag (especially after the €1500 i just spent on my pc )

aidan_walsh

Holy hell.

Think of the rent you could charge to live in the the box!

projectmayhem

BlitzKrieg wrote:

This is the first time I got to see a practical shot of the PS3 as a unit and I cant help but feel that the main reason for going all *no cables* with the controllers is to avoid this 5kg monster breaking the floor by a snagged cable.

it's so heavy because the PSU is inside the machine, whereas the 360 in comparison has it ouside. though i do wonder how much a 360+psu weighs together in the first place...

BlitzKrieg wrote:

1. Whats with the white gloves when taking it out?

yeah sony say staff must do that because the console's all shiny and when it's put back in the display they don't want smudges all over it

BlitzKrieg

projectmayhem wrote:

it's so heavy because the PSU is inside the machine, whereas the 360 in comparison has it ouside. though i do wonder how much a 360+psu weighs together in the first place...

I guessed that would be the main reason, but i wonder why having the PSU out is such a big deal for sony? I mean i rather have a machine I can easily fit under my tv or somewhere out of the way and then have a PSU tucked away around the corner by the socket, rather then this mosnter which if the guy holding it is not a dwarf that thing will take up my entire short table (for putting tv and console on) by itself.


Of course its as easy to argue to simply put the thing on the floor. But i like tucking my consoles away it looks neat.

yeah sony say staff must do that because the console's all shiny and when it's put back in the display they don't want smudges all over it

still it looks funny.

I know it looks like i'm making an all out attack on sony, but I'm really only giving my opinion on how it looks, if it looked like this and delivered the greatest games on earth i wouldnt care. Equally I laughed at how the original XBOX looked but it is a beutiful piece of kit (very well put together) though i'm not a big fan of its game selection.

projectmayhem

BlitzKrieg wrote:

I guessed that would be the main reason, but i wonder why having the PSU out is such a big deal for sony? I mean i rather have a machine I can easily fit under my tv or somewhere out of the way and then have a PSU tucked away around the corner by the socket, rather then this mosnter which if the guy holding it is not a dwarf that thing will take up my entire short table (for putting tv and console on) by itself.

well if your ps2/360 or whatever fits under your tv, chances are your ps3 would too. it's big alright, but not like a monolith compared to the 360...

as for the psu, yeah i'm not sure why they're so hesitant to stick it outside. it may be simply a case of not wanting it outside where it can become defective (like the xbox recall) through being kicked around and plugs being damaged etc. etc.

BlitzKrieg wrote:

I know it looks like i'm making an all out attack on sony, but I'm really only giving my opinion on how it looks, if it looked like this and delivered the greatest games on earth i wouldnt care. Equally I laughed at how the original XBOX looked but it is a beutiful piece of kit (very well put together) though i'm not a big fan of its game selection.

aye the 360 looks fantastic, ESPECIALLY compared to the xbox. though if i ever have to sit through that 360 presentation sh1te about it being in the shape of an "inward breath" i'll go insane

monument

projectmayhem wrote:

as for the psu, yeah i'm not sure why they're so hesitant to stick it outside. it may be simply a case of not wanting it outside where it can become defective (like the xbox recall) through being kicked around and plugs being damaged etc. etc.

Maybe because it's 50/50 (guess) as to whether the outer PSU would be more/less convenient then a larger console. The 360, as it is, is about the same width as a Skybox etc.

BTW my 360 PSU is fecked, now with melted parts.

projectmayhem

monument wrote:

BTW my 360 PSU is fecked, now with melted parts.

might be another reason to have an internal one for ps3... don't have to case it in plastic and have absolutely no ventilation getting to it...

quarryman

projectmayhem wrote:

not exactly an epic difference tbh

brilliant picture. Is the Wii actually that small? Not much bigger than a DVD....

projectmayhem

quarryman wrote:

brilliant picture. Is the Wii actually that small? Not much bigger than a DVD....

there's a vid floating around of myamoto putting a dvd in. it literally is only that size because of the dvd. it could probably be smaller..

quarryman

projectmayhem wrote:

there's a vid floating around of myamoto putting a dvd in. it literally is only that size because of the dvd. it could probably be smaller..

and here it is

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QYNZ90kB2wk

FuzzyWuzzyWazza

projectmayhem wrote:

might be another reason to have an internal one for ps3... don't have to case it in plastic and have absolutely no ventilation getting to it...

I am pretty sure the console is made of plastic, so if the PSU is inside the console then it is cased in plastic.

And there is ventilation on the 360's PSU so I don't see that as a problem with an external PSU.

Crucifix

quarryman wrote:

and here it is

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QYNZ90kB2wk

My initial thoughts were "Shit, that DVD's massive!"

Matt Simis

projectmayhem wrote:

might be another reason to have an internal one for ps3... don't have to case it in plastic and have absolutely no ventilation getting to it...

Hmm... you seem to be over exagerating the effect having an external PSU has on reliabliity. Think of all the Laptops sold to date with power bricks? 100m+ laptops later, the technology and design is obviously mature at this point.

PSU failures can happen regardless of placement however IMO an internal PSU is a bad idea:

-If/When it breaks you must ship the entire console back for repair instead of simply replacing the PSU brick
-Placing a heat generating device like a PSU directly onto (or beside) a heat generating CPU etc is a terrible idea, heat stacks and will shorten the lifespan of both devices, the opposite of your assertion.
-As above, needlessly increases the size and weight of the product.. I expect Sony will release a slimline PS3 with the PSU on the outside as a "product refresh" this time next year.

You also mentioned "Xbox PSU recalls"... are you referring the original XB power cable issue? The original XB had the PSU inside, only the power cable was recalled. It would appear MS learned their lesson with the XB360 design.



Matt

monument

projectmayhem wrote:

might be another reason to have an internal one for ps3... don't have to case it in plastic and have absolutely no ventilation getting to it...

http://regmedia.co.uk/2005/12/05/xbox360_2.jpg

In the above linked image see the darker coloured plastic around the plug slot? Well that’s somewhat gone.

To be correct, “Receded” may be a better description. I now have a very loose plug slot inside. It looks as if the edges of such are burned.

The house’s power supply tripped, and, so far, the power unit is the only known damage, but I’m still unsure if there has been any damage to the console or hard drive. Emailed MS tech support two days ago. No reply so far. I’ve been advised to phone them.

Edit: Got the following about an hour ago (strangly at the *exact* same time as my last post... just had not seen it)...

"Thank you for your email. In order to respond effectively to your email we need to investigate further. Therefore please contact the Xbox 360 Customer Support team on http://www.xbox.com/support/contact/
UK supprt @ 0800 587 1102"

Kiith

Crucifix wrote:

My initial thoughts were "Shit, that DVD's massive!"

haha, my thoughts exactly

evad_lhorg

remember he is japanese.... theyre tiny.

Nick_oliveri

Ps3 looks monsterous and disgusting at the same time. Kinda like me self this mornin. Wont put me off getting one if i have a job or a valid scabbing argument before christmas. Gimmie moneh!

Just for the amount of cores and the new GTA im going to get it. Wíí would look sexy (er) with the new zelda. As long as its not cell shaded!

About time there was a new console war. IMO the 360 wont have a stump to stand on!

CiDeRmAn

Don't think the size of a given console or whether its pretty or not has ever stopped me from buying one, I mean, since when did that matter.
Nope it will nestle beneath a buyers TV replacing the PS2 an if they have to buy a new stand or something, who cares, you bought the bloddy thing, hell if you can afford one why not buy a new TV cabinet at the same time.

ambro25

Nick_oliveri wrote:

Just for the amount of cores and the new GTA im going to get it. Wíí would look sexy (er) with the new zelda. As long as its not cell shaded!

The new GTA is coming out on 360 first. The amount of cores means sweet FA if they're not programmed right and the game is sh1te anyway.

And then "the 360 wont have a stump to stand on!"?? :rolleyes: I don't think Sony are still on top of things, where consoles are concerned I'm afraid. Just look at PSP, which was supposed to be all that and more and bury the DS. Ever heard of Jean de la Fontaine's "the turtle and the hare" fable?

Oh, just to precise: I'm not getting any next gen btw (or maybe just a second-hand Wii after a while once the line up becomes worthy), and least of all a PS3 from Sony, after all their attempts at shutting down importers. People have very short memories when they see new tech, by the look of things :mad:

savemejebus

ambro25 wrote:

The new GTA is coming out on 360 first

I could be wrong but i think it's coming out on both platforms at the same time.Microsofts 'big' announcement was GTA 4 from 'day 1' which just meant that there was no exclusivity deal with Sony.

As far as the size of the ps3 goes, i think if you really need to use the size of the console as a reason for not purchasing it you may have a bit of a problem. Look at the DS, when it came out many said it was big and ugly and the games would be childish and nope they weren't going to get it. They were going to go for the infinitely sexier PSP. Now the DS lite is out and you don't see so many people saying the games are childish and it's jumping off the shelves.

At the end of the day it's the games that matter (and possibly blu-ray functionality if it wins the format war :rolleyes: )

koneko

You're buying something for how many cores it has? Seriously? GTA will be on both the PS3 and 360 btw...

I like having a fast PC with a nice graphics card, I love hardware, I love technology, but at the end of the day how many cores something has means nothing, it's all about the games. People seem to forget that sometimes.

I have a 360 and I'll be getting a Wii the very second I can. I will no doubt end up getting a PS3 at some point, but Sony are making it difficult to like them with all the nonsense they come out with (and the stupid price). The size is silly and I think the design is awful, but that's not going to put me off buying it.