antec p180 wc mod

awhir

ok i am starting to fall in love with this case and lonnbeimnech showed me this pro job of a dual rad fitted and i wanted 1 even more.so i was wondering would it be hard to mount the rad there and cut the whole ???

and was wonderin were would be a good place to put res,pump



heres some pics of rad placeing

Anti

Nah will be easy and straight forward, just make a cardboard template first though, and all should go grand, hope you have a dremel though

awhir

ya gota buy 1

also anyone wana buy a cm stacker not a 100% shure tho if i will do it

Anti

yeah ill take it, as long as its in good nick, and you arnt asking a fortune for it, drop me a pm when you plan to sell it mate :

**EDIT**

offer pulled out as 51€ delivery is a bit much for me

DemonOfTheFall

Im also going from a stacker to a p180. I was going to watercool mine but the total for the PC was €2150 without watercooling so i decided to leave the WC out...

awhir

ordered a p180 last night.anyone want a cm stacekr.

and also got a dremal and a grid what else will i need

awhir

found this very handy.

but think i might put the pump on the middle platform not any bottom im think of the best tidyest way(less wires)

any ideas??

Anti

Beatfreak from overclocking.ie did the mod with the rad in the middle of the front of the case, very nice looking. Shame www.overclocking.ie is down or you could see it.

awhir

would tihs me the best way to do it no sharp conoers for tubing to take.

Anti

pretty much yeah, even though i would mount the rad outside for better cooling

awhir

want to keep it in side.make it look cool

Skud

black one is nice imo

unklerosco

I had that case, bought it new n sold it 4 days ltr.. Case is smaller than it looks, Ur sketch that u did has a few flaws..

U loose out on all but 1 of ur 5 1/4" bays, It seems ur going pump>gfx>rad>cpu>res.. Better to go pump>res>rad>cpu>gpu, u'll have to use 3/8"/10mm tubing.. U'd never get 1/2" tubing in that space and last of all its gonna be a nightmare to work on it..

The case is designed to work with air cooling, get urslef an arctic cooler for X1800XT and a freezer 64 for the cpu n u'll be getting damn close to the temps ur getting with ur WC kit.... and it'll be quiet too.. That was the best thing about that case, its so damn quiet

Skud

I gotta agree with the above post, the case is designed in such a way that it suits air cooling. There's not that much room in the case despite it's size, can be hard to navigate the cables around the case. So if you got thicker water cooling tubes mixed with the psu (assuming a high voltage psu) then you could be looking at limited and complicated spacing. Which is a shame cause it's a quality case. I have one

DemonOfTheFall

unklerosco wrote:

I had that case, bought it new n sold it 4 days ltr.. Case is smaller than it looks, Ur sketch that u did has a few flaws..

U loose out on all but 1 of ur 5 1/4" bays, It seems ur going pump>gfx>rad>cpu>res.. Better to go pump>res>rad>cpu>gpu, u'll have to use 3/8"/10mm tubing.. U'd never get 1/2" tubing in that space and last of all its gonna be a nightmare to work on it..

The case is designed to work with air cooling, get urslef an arctic cooler for X1800XT and a freezer 64 for the cpu n u'll be getting damn close to the temps ur getting with ur WC kit.... and it'll be quiet too.. That was the best thing about that case, its so damn quiet

I was always under the impression that pumpin straight into the res was a terrible idea because it'd churn a lot more air into the loop in a high flow system ?

po0k

I thought it was res->pump->rad->cpu->gpu->res?
Or res->pump->cpu->gpu->rad->res, or am I missing the point of having a res in the first place?
Surely pumping into a res is going to lose alot of pressure? And wouldn't it be better to dump the heat from the water either before the waterblocks or directly afterwards? or with a 2nd rad between each hot spot?

unklerosco

res->pump->rad->cpu->gpu->res

Thats the ideal.. I was just going by his layout.

po0k

kk, was worried for a sec.

And then the apathy of someone without the immediate disposable income to purchase such kit set in.

Cuddlesworth

Yep, pump into res is a bad idea. You can mount the rad anywhere along the loop really, most people prefer to put it in straight after the pump but before the cpu block as then the coolest water is hitting your cpu first. Remember that a pump puts a fair bit of heat into the loop.

Psycopat

gotta say i love the case it is a little small to fit nvidia 7950's in it and big cpu coolers however its alot bigger than most cases and because of its plain subtle design it looks smaller than it actually is imo. that guy did a nice job mountin the wc rad to the top of the case it looks great

po0k

krazy_8s wrote:

Remember that a pump puts a fair bit of heat into the loop.

Does that apply to all [electro-mechanical] pumps on the market or are there any others? eg. piezoelectric?

A pre- and post- waterblock rad stage might be advisable so? even a single 120mm rad for the pre- and the usual dual/triple for the post?

Cuddlesworth

SyxPak wrote:

Does that apply to all [electro-mechanical] pumps on the market or are there any others? eg. piezoelectric?

A pre- and post- waterblock rad stage might be advisable so? even a single 120mm rad for the pre- and the usual dual/triple for the post?

Its not advisable to have 2 rads in a loop due to the pressure drop required for a rad to work. Hence the rise of triple and dual rads rather than a few singles dotted around the case.

awhir

ok what about this anyone got any t lines spare ??.



that hdd cage will be removed.

po0k

gotcha.

So there are no biomass-powered repulsion jets on the market I take it?

foo

awhir

options

Cuddlesworth

awhir wrote:

options

The top point on the pump is the exit, side is the inlet. Think about it.

Syspak, no there are no really fancy pumps out due to price/heat concerns. A few people in the states use large Iwaki pumps, but at the size of a rugby ball I cant really see much value in them.

DemonOfTheFall

I've seen a cooling system that circulated a liquid metal alloy, that one was a magnetic propulsion pump.

I think someone on XS bought it on eBay, ripped out of some military grade Xeon system or something.

awhir

so is this fine ???

po0k

DemonOfTheFall wrote:

I've seen a cooling system that circulated a liquid metal alloy, that one was a magnetic propulsion pump.

I think someone on XS bought it on eBay, ripped out of some military grade Xeon system or something.

http://www.techpowerup.com/?3105

DemonOfTheFall

SyxPak wrote:

http://www.techpowerup.com/?3105

Not what I was thinking of, but I had seen that nano cool thing before.

Cuddlesworth

awhir wrote:

so is this fine ???

Yeah, now what are the actual componants going to be though?

awhir

look at sig and all wc is swifteach here

Apogee waterblock
- MCR220 Radiator
- MCP655 12V DC Pump
- MCRES-MICRO reservoir
- MCB120 Radbox radiator mounting adapter
-danger dan maze 4 gpu block.

Cuddlesworth

Cool, I wonder if the apogee was ever proven to be any good.

awhir

i find it good and also its ment to be in the top 10 for best blacks.

awhir

cut the out the outline for the rad.it was a bitch ta do i must of went tru 25 dremal blades lol.so not i got it cut out gona drill the wholes .

conzy

A jigsaw with a good metal blade is best for anything other than a tiny job, and dremel blades are crap unless you buy the fiberglass reinforced ones but they are around €15 for 5 in woodies:eek:

awhir

very true .learn from your mistakes .

po0k

Or buy online.

A quick bit of googling for "dremel 426" revealed these prices:
http://www.dremelonline.com/dremel/listproducts.jsp €9.47 Ex VAT
http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/dre426.html $5.57
http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/details.php?cat=Dremel%20Cut-Off%20Wheels&product=13106 £6.12 Ex VAT
http://www.toolbarn.com/product/dremel/426/ $5.21

I'd say it's a fair bit cheaper to buy in bulk.

L31mr0d

Or... buy the B&Q dremel-alike disks, called "performance power". They last about half as long but are less than a quarter the price... you do the maths. I've never bought any dremel made bits as they are way overpriced, the B&Q ones are just as good and ridiculously cheap. I bought a set for €10 which had every bit available in the dremel range, also 10 fiberglass ones, and 50 each of the other kinds of disks. I still haven't gotten through it yet.

Cuddlesworth

L31mr0d wrote:

Or... buy the B&Q dremel-alike disks, called "performance power". They last about half as long but are less than a quarter the price... you do the maths. I've never bought any dremel made bits as they are way overpriced, the B&Q ones are just as good and ridiculously cheap. I bought a set for €10 which had every bit available in the dremel range, also 10 fiberglass ones, and 50 each of the other kinds of disks. I still haven't gotten through it yet.

If you put too much pressure on the dremel then you burn through them. If you let the dremel do teh work you get so much more out of your bits, took me 1 1/2 bits to cut out the top of my stacker to fit a dual rad. Removing the psu cage was a bitch though.

Drapper

show us your final work Awhir ¬¬ !!

awhir

bah to lazy its still lying on the case have to still put it in