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Violent Bullying in schools - Was I blind or Lucky?

  • 29-08-2006 9:54am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭


    I was watching GMTV this morning (my mam had it on, I swear) before I left for work, and there was a young girl, about 17 or so, telling of how she was violently bullied in school.
    She said then when she was just 7 years old, school bullies broke her finger and cut off her hair.
    She said that the bullying continued throughout primary school, and into secondary school.
    She went onto tell us that in secondary school a group of boys grabbed her and slammed a door on her head, which resulted in her needing stitches.
    This was one of the more serious offences, but she said that she was spat at, punched and kicked, almost every day.

    This all happened in the UK, and it made me think, I did witness verbal bullying when in school, but I never saw, or heard of anyone being physically assaulted in the way the young girl described - and certainly not over such a prolonged period of time.

    I found it difficult to believe/understand that this could happen - but just because I didn't see it, doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

    I am curious, was I one of the lucky ones?
    Did I just happen to go to a really good school with a zero tolerance to bullying attitude?
    Maybe I was blind to the bullying, because my friends and I were not directly involved?
    Have you witnessed anything as serious as what I have described above?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    I agree, I can't remember ever witnessing physical bullying in school. Normally it would just be 2 people having a fair fight over something stupid.

    It was more mental bullying I saw, ie someone being picked on by a group who was alone by slagging them off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    No, neither in primary nor secondary school. There was lots of verbal bullying and some physical intimidation, but nothing that extreme.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    My school was rough enough and there were alot of fights, but in my year at least i cant recall anyone who was consistently beaten by a gang or whatnot. There were people who didnt like each other, there always is. There were gangs that didnt get along, entire class groups that didnt get along, but afaik there was little or none of the sort of 6 people against one guy alone kind of thing. If this was ever attempted, usually that one guy would have friends or cousins who would stick up for him so it never went beyond there.

    In 3rd year we got a new dep principal, and he pretty much cut the fighting by about 90% with his policies. More cameras, immediate one week suspensions for brawling, you might think this is good but it was fcuking ridicilous, you would get suspended for defending yourself. If you hit back, you would get 3 days, as opposed to 5 for the guy who started it. Unbelieveable his policy basically was that if a guy hits you, rather than fight back you stand there and let him beat you to a pulp, then run and tell teacher. Fcuking spa, swear to god if i run into him after a few pints hes gettin a rake of abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Mrs_Doyle


    Unearthly wrote:
    I agree, I can't remember ever witnessing physical bullying in school. Normally it would just be 2 people having a fair fight over something stupid.

    It was more mental bullying I saw, ie someone being picked on by a group who was alone by slagging them off.


    Exactly! I know my brother came home from school with a fair few scrapes and bruises on more then one occasion, but it was because he was mouthy and would have landed himself in a fight.
    I would never describe what happened to him as bullying.

    I remember when I was 7, some girl pinched my neck so hard she made it bleed, and when my mam came to collect me, and I told her what had happened, she went nuts.

    I hadn't told the teacher, so she couldn't have known about it to do anything, my mam soon had the situation addressed and nothing ever happened to me ever again.

    In secondary school it can get 'mean', In that kids form groups and can be quite cruel to people outside of their group. The might isolate or verbally hurt them - but I honestly never ever witnessed, or heard, of anyone being physically bullied in primary or secondary school.

    How the hell could something like that go on for so long? It just baffles me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Tbh honest i saw plenty, and was on the receiving end of a good deal of violent bullying for years. Guess there was something about me as a kid that just made me look and act like a victim i suppose.

    But yeah, as far as i could tell extreme violent bullying was an issue in schools when i was a kid, and i don't think it was just me on the receiving end either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    There was a guy in my school who was pushed and tripped up pretty much every day for a good few weeks in my school, by people a year ahead of him. There was also another guy who used to be bullied quite a lot and one day I was on the bus (this was the only day I'd ever gone on the bus after school as I only lived a 10 min walk, I forget why I was on the bus) but anyway, basically the whole top deck of the bus was slagging this guy and then he got an orange smack in the side of his head, the orange burst open and drenched the guy. He went down to the driver and got the lad kicked off. As I said, this was the ONE day I was on the bus, I don't know how often this happened. Unfortunately in both circumstances I was a lot younger than those doing the bullying. When I was in 5th/6th year there was a little lad who used to get a fair bit of bullying, I was able to stand up for him though.

    I heard of another story where some guy was getting bullied on the bus and and older chap knocked the guy who was bullying the other guy out:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    Although my school wasn't the worst, I remember a situation where a 'nerd' was held by two lads while another one kicked him sqare in the goolies.. and this was when we were 14/15 so it well woulda hurt like hell. The offending lad was rapped on the knuckles and that was that. I know for a fact that the 'nerd' didn't tell his folks (he must've had his own reasons).

    I remember one little guy in my class who was just constantly the victim of em.. play acting?? I wouldn't have classed what happened to him as bullying at the time cos they were actually hurting him, but he was often thrown around the class like a rag doll.

    There was another guy who was constantly bullied, but he took it all on the chin. As I looked at it I thought it deffo was bullying, but others would have said he was just gettin the piss ripped outa him. He'd often be punched, spat on etc. He was the Irish rugby U21 captain for a while there so I dunno if it did him much harm :confused:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    it happens here as bad as that girl in the uk


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Alot of it went on in my school I was also on the receiving end of alot of it too, luckily I was able to fight my corner and this did make a few people afarid of me.

    Was bullyed from 1st to 3rd year by one lad untill one day I lost the head and kick the crap out of him, he never said a word to me after that.

    Luckily never got in trouble for any of this as school knew I put up with alot and I only let loose when I was pushed to braking point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Yep, my secondary school had some bad bullying. Same old thing of three or four lads, pushing and shoving a guy, calling him queer etc. Following him home and smacking him in the back of the head, two guys would grab his arms and hold them out while the third would smack his head onto the table he was sitting at then they would take turns flicking the back of his ears while calling him names. They would grab him, throw dusters at him in an empty classroom, egg him on the way home etc. The kid never retaliated or said anything to offend them, he was just weak and cried when he took a beating.

    That was about second year and it went on for a while. I stood up for him once because I knew one of the bullies well enough, he was in my class. I got a smack for it but gave as good as I got so I didn't get bullied. It didn't stop them. The guy eventually left the school to go elsewhere, hope he didn't get more of the same in the next school. The bullies just increased their attacks on other kids but they weren't the only bullies in the school!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Never been the vitim of or seen physical bullying myself, the only frame of reference i have is being verbally bullied for 3 years.

    I know the kids that do bully usually have a kind of background that might influence them to start picking on 'the nerd', 'the foreigner', 'the small kid' and these issues definitely have to be addressed to at least try and stem the bullying. Just sometimes the people with the power to punish read too much into the bullying and dont punish enough because 'oh they have a bad home life', in my experience the bully got off quite light for the amount of crap he put me through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Cabaal wrote:
    Was bullyed from 1st to 3rd year by one lad untill one day I lost the head and kick the crap out of him, he never said a word to me after that.

    Luckily never got in trouble for any of this as school knew I put up with alot and I only let loose when I was pushed to braking point.

    Funnily enough i did exactly the same, just lost it one day and did some damage of my own. After that, people didn't want any of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Sgt. Politeness


    Ive only ever come up against bullying a handful of times. Two blokes used to just call me names when i was in 5th class, but my teacher, a christian brother hated them and used to constantly kick em out of the class so id just laugh to myself and forgot about them.
    This one pr!ck gave me stick for almost 3 years from 1st - 3rd year, nothing physical just slagging. I was bigger than him and if it came down to it probably couldve given him a decent go but never did. Last time i heard, hed had a kid at 18 and a heroin problem. Couldnt have happened to a nicer person if you ask me.
    Also, in primary school, there was one kid everyone was afraid of, he was a nasty piece of work, you could tell even at that age he would turn out no good. And the last i heard of him he'd been charged with raping his 8yr old stepsister, total feckin psycho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    In secondary school the first years get "first year beatings". Think Dased and Confused but without the bats. It was just kickings. It goes on for the first two weeks of first year. Basically anyone from any of the other years goes around and kicks the living ****e out of first years. I had my nose bust open on several occassions.

    By the time I got to third year it was addressed by the teachers and I'm fairly sure it doesn't happen anymore. I didn't mind at the time as I didn't think much of it, but thinking back it actually was fairly rough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    In National School there was a phase were a gang of guys would pick a victim at random grab them, hoist them above their heads, spread their legs and ram them into the concrete pillars of the bike shed. Never took part in it myself or had it done to me but it went on for a few weeks before one kid ended up in hospital and the staff finally took notice.

    This was a Christian Brothers school in Mayo which had a good reputation - the guys who did it were all pretty much bright kids from well adjusted homes. It was just a weird gang type mentality that took over from what I could tell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Worst thing ever was a quiet lad being held down in the our school toilets and p*ssed on. He had to go back up to class dripping wet. Whenever I hear stuff about bullying, I always think of that with great sadness but at that age; I guess most people are afraid to stand up to a gang of bullies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Mrs_Doyle


    stove lid wrote:
    Worst thing ever was a quiet lad being held down in the our school toilets and p*ssed on. He had to go back up to class dripping wet. Whenever I hear stuff about bullying, I always think of that with great sadness but at that age; I guess most people are afraid to stand up to a gang of bullies.


    That is seriously disturbing.

    When I was only 5 I can remember someone handing me a coat and telling me to shove it down the drain.
    I didn't know who the coat belonged to, I knew it was wrong and I knew I would get into trouble.
    I remember thinking I would much rather get into trouble with my mam, then get into trouble with those kids, so I did it.

    I was in so much trouble and my Mam bought the owner of the coat a new jacket and I apologised to them.

    I wasn't cut out to be a bad kid, it was after that, when I started trying to avoid the 'bad kids' that they picked on me a bit, because I wouldn't do the 'bold' things you had to do to be in their gang.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    Our school was pretty rough. Most fights were pretty serious, occasionally weapons etc. To be honest it was bad on the sports field aswell. Most people got into a group that protected their own, but there was lots of fighting. What sparked ours off was the removal of corporal punishment. The place went wild, and there none of the political correctness you see now. Looking back on it the school and teachers were pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭NeMiSiS


    I had three years of .. ranging from intimidation to nearly getting stabbed.. on more than one occasion.. I changed schools being more so sick of the school itself than the 'bullying'.. which is too light a term in most cases "assualt" would be more appropriate.

    Anyways about my first week in this other school, a guy was getting **** over god knows what.. from some red faced GAA player, basically cause he was new.. and yer man was going to 'bait him'. I told the guy if he wanted to beat the **** out of him, he would have to have a go at me too... so he did.. and I knocked him out with a metal bar.. it was metal work class. Anytime I ever saw anyone 'bully' anyone for the next two yeas of school, I stood up for the bullied party.. they tend to back down pretty quickly..

    I just took so much **** myself that I hate to see someone getting ****ed round by some jackass, who thinks they have some god given right too harass people. In any situation, Jesus I've seen some atrocious ****, and people just standing round like there is nothing happening.

    A very simple example of this, I was in class one day.. and this .. 'bully'.. known for being a jackass.. went round everyone in the class one by one.. rapping them on the knuckles with a steel ruler.. and they took this crap ! Until that is when he got to me.. I'd allready decided with my mate beside me what we'd do.. like this dewd was hitting girls ! Some were crying.. So I said 'You can go ahead and hit me if you like..' which he did ya know.. nice guy and all that.. then me and mate mate go up grabbed him..and bet seven shades of **** out of him with it.. and then ejected him from a window.. it was ground floor.. but still funny him crawling back in the window in tatters and the teacher asking wtf had happend... and ruler marks on his face.

    Now, I had to watch my back like a hawk after this, and on occassion yer man did try have people beat the crap out of me.. but you learn to pick your battles.

    I dunno if there's a moral to my story, I just don't like to see people being ****ed round. Live simply.. so others may simply live :D

    TK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    I was in the same school tom and had hammers thrown at me ;) I punched him in the face and got suspended :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Ah there was the odd fight at school but not a whole lot more. There was 2 cousins in my class who used to hang out together and they were involved in bullying someone a few classes below us, constantly picking on the same guy, they were dealt with. I can't remember it was primary school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    In my school there was a lot of mental bullying. I got a little myself but I just thought nothing of it because they were idiots who couldn't come up with a second slag and were just saying the same thing for over 3 years or so.

    There was very little physical bullying. No one really had the balls to do it because it was clamped down upon pretty hard. Still a few fights though.

    This was all secondry school, I actually don't remember ANY bullying in primary school


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    I got a lot of this crap when I was in 1st/2nd year of secondary school. I was fairly weedy, quiet kid with glasses, so got lots of mental abuse coupled with the occasional kicking.

    Honestly if I ran into some of those bullies today I'm afraid I'd see red and have my revenge on them. Hopefully they've copped the **** on and become responsible human beings, but a couple of them were destined to be pricks in later life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Ah. Got bullied by a group of about 20 little bas7ards in secondry school. They knew I couldn't hit back, as me being bigger, I'd be instantly seen to be the bully by the teachers. So after random heavy-bag-of-books-in-the-face, they quit. That, and other random acts of violence on anyone smaller than me. They stopped, and so did I. Proberly got a lot of innocents in the face with the bag, but **** it. In war, there are always causulties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Just a question, of those of you that experienced bullying like the above, how many of you were in single-sex schools? I've heard before that occurrences of bullying and the like are lower in mixed schools.

    single-sex christian brothers schools ftl.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    NeMiSiS wrote:
    A very simple example of this, I was in class one day.. and this .. 'bully'.. known for being a jackass.. went round everyone in the class one by one.. rapping them on the knuckles with a steel ruler.. and they took this crap ! Until that is when he got to me.. I'd allready decided with my mate beside me what we'd do.. like this dewd was hitting girls ! Some were crying.. So I said 'You can go ahead and hit me if you like..' which he did ya know.. nice guy and all that.. then me and mate mate go up grabbed him..and bet seven shades of **** out of him with it.. and then ejected him from a window.. it was ground floor.. but still funny him crawling back in the window in tatters and the teacher asking wtf had happend... and ruler marks on his face.

    nice one.

    i was bullied a bit in school ( just pushing and shoving etc. ), until one day i had this splitting headache and yer man decides to hav a go at me. He got as far as pushing me until i hit him a box and then threw him backwards over a table and then flipped the table on top of him.

    noone hassled me after that really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Pipp


    Stephen wrote:
    Just a question, of those of you that experienced bullying like the above, how many of you were in single-sex schools? I've heard before that occurrences of bullying and the like are lower in mixed schools.
    QUOTE]
    To answer your question about single sex schools, yes there is more bullying.
    I was in an all girls school and I have to say it was the most miserable experience of my life. I was bullied relentlessly for most of secondary school and I still dont know why. The girls (women) that did it still try to intimidate me when Im out and about and one of them even called me "scum" relatively recently, although this time I answered her back with something equally offensive and she backed off. It boggles my mind that now, more than ten years later theyre still hanging out together and behaving like thugs, its almost as if they havent grown up or moved on at all. :eek: In my case its all jealousy related, as the main bully in my past isnt exactly a success. She's one of these "social welfare" people purely down to laziness. I lived abroad for a while you see and Ive worked hard to have a career and be independant, that seems to have displeased her a little.:D

    Bullies dont like people standing up for themselves and that was something I never quite had the courage to do while we were in school, so I just took the abuse. I suppose I was a soft target, quiet shy and introverted, a little fat and nerdy with braces and glasses. They used to spit on me, and take my things. On one occasion they ganged up on me after PE and threw me head first into a hand dryer. There were alot of lies told that day to my Mum to explain the bruises and the nosebleeds.
    Exclusion is the worst though, I remember one day, the main bully must have been really miffed at me for some reason as she had intimidated everyone in my class to exclude me, including my "friends". God knows what she was holding over them all. Anyway, I will never forget walking into the hall where we had our lunch and heading over to my friends and being ignored. I got up and moved to another bunch and still the same. That went on for about a week and as you can imagine by that time I was completely distraught and was pleading with my mother to move me into another school but refusing to tell her why. In the end a good friend took me aside and told me that everyone else had been bullied into it by the main bully.
    The thing is I still dont know why I was singled out.
    Thank God Im not the same terrified girl I was then, I have no hesitation now in defending myself.
    Bullies are just scum, and they deserve all the bad luck and misfortune in the world. I still wonder how my bully can live with herself after the things she has done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    Stephen wrote:
    Just a question, of those of you that experienced bullying like the above, how many of you were in single-sex schools?
    .

    I was in an all boys school


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    Stephen wrote:
    Just a question, of those of you that experienced bullying like the above, how many of you were in single-sex schools? I've heard before that occurrences of bullying and the like are lower in mixed schools.

    Christian Bros ftl :( The school was so crap (prefabs) that lads used to pick up desks and fook them through the walls. My lil bro went to a community secondry school and he said there was v little bullyin at all. :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Ours was a mixed school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Alot of people here suffered badly, all I can say is that I hope it made you a stronger person.

    I was picked on by 1 guy in 1st and 2nd year verbally, he wouldn't of dared to attack me, as I was bigger than him. The reason was because when I moved from Primary school, into secondary school, there wasn't 1 person from my old class in my new class. So what you had was loads of little groups and then me on my own and one guy saw this and took advantage.

    Incidentally I snapped one day and started pushing him around after school, and following him home and pushing him again. Never knew I had it in me.

    Few years later, I'm in College going for a degree, he is on the run for drug debts

    I win


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    From my own and others experiences I'd say mixed schools suffer from it less.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Sgt. Politeness


    Unearthly wrote:

    Few years later, I'm in College going for a degree, he is on the run for drug debts

    I win
    its wrong, but when i heard the prick who used to pick on me was a smackhead f*ckup....god i felt so happy and vindicated. I'm sure youre feeling something similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Unearthly wrote:
    Alot of people here suffered badly, all I can say is that I hope it made you a stronger person.

    Oh god yeah, I remember last X-mas I was at home at out with a few mates. Ran into a guy who used to give me constant hidings in school. He was a bit drunk and tried to re-enact the old childhood games.

    It didn't really work out as he had planned, the poor fella. But yeah, it made me stronger, I won't be intimidated anymore, by anyone or anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭scop


    I was always a bit quiet in school, and got a little bit of ****, but never anything I'd consider assault. I know the class was essentially divided into lads who bullied and those who didnt. Simple as that. It was a CBS. Now funnily enough I have to say the lads who were bullied seem ok these days, I know ones a Garda now (god help teh bullies if he pulls up on them one day :D ) and the other is doing Theoritical Physics. NowI've seen some of the people who gave **** in town the odd days and I walk right by them with nothing more than a 'state of ya now' smirk on my face. Time is a great thing for weeding out the retards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 liverpoolkev


    sjones wrote:
    In secondary school the first years get "first year beatings". Think Dased and Confused but without the bats. It was just kickings. It goes on for the first two weeks of first year. Basically anyone from any of the other years goes around and kicks the living ****e out of first years. I had my nose bust open on several occassions.

    By the time I got to third year it was addressed by the teachers and I'm fairly sure it doesn't happen anymore. I didn't mind at the time as I didn't think much of it, but thinking back it actually was fairly rough.
    That still happens in my school I got away with it:D . It was mainly throw the first year in the bin (our bin's are like skips).
    I figured out a way to get away with the bully thing, not intentional but in my first year in a school I always got in a fight, 2nd class (new school) I got in a fight with the head bully in one of the first days punched once he started crying hit him some more for good luck;) . Wasn't bullied for rest of my time in that school except for the usual verbal but that happens to every one. Also in first year I got in a fight nothing major more handbags then anything it was broken up by the teachers before it got serious and haven't been hit since. I think it shows that you are not going to take **** from anyone and the bullys leave you alone for the most part.
    By the way I am in a single sex school . Boys in case your confused.
    P.S. Would not advice people to this you will never hear this advice on Dr.Phil:D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Bullying is such an awful, traumatic things for alot of people. Like many I was bullied in secondary school, mostly verbally and mentally. My sister was physically bullied. We have both come out stronger people though but this is no thanks to teachers or parents. (sorry ma and da, tellin teachers im bein bullied made it worse!!)

    i was a bit "weedy" and nerdy in school. So i took up martial arts not long after bullying started. Confidence slowly grew but bullying got worse. One day as one of the group were bullying me i snapped and lept on the the guy who was considered toughest one. Hit him a right few digs, drew blood and all but the group overpowered me and gave me a hidin. No one bothered me really after that.

    when i have kids i will teach them the same if they get bullied. fight physically back, even if its not physical bullying thats taking place. Yes you will get into trouble but the bullying will stop.

    Until bullying is taken for more serious, its schoolyard rules unfortunately.

    By the way, fair play to those posters who intervened where bullying took place. most commendable. Wish i had similar classmates when i was in school. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭#Smokey#


    Mrs_Doyle wrote:
    Exactly! I know my brother came home from school with a fair few scrapes and bruises on more then one occasion, but it was because he was mouthy and would have landed himself in a fight.
    I would never describe what happened to him as bullying.

    I remember when I was 7, some girl pinched my neck so hard she made it bleed, and when my mam came to collect me, and I told her what had happened, she went nuts.

    I hadn't told the teacher, so she couldn't have known about it to do anything, my mam soon had the situation addressed and nothing ever happened to me ever again.

    In secondary school it can get 'mean', In that kids form groups and can be quite cruel to people outside of their group. The might isolate or verbally hurt them - but I honestly never ever witnessed, or heard, of anyone being physically bullied in primary or secondary school.

    How the hell could something like that go on for so long? It just baffles me.

    never heard of actually beatings being given out. must only be limited to english chavs.

    and thank god im in with all the groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    Remember gettingthe crap pucked out of me on a few occaisions at school failed one of my leaving exams coz I had had the tar kicked out of me that morning so ya that stuff does happen here but unfortunately rarely noticed but by the ppl it happens to


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Never really seen violent physical bullying but I went to an all-girls school and non-physical bullying was pretty common.

    Some of the stuff I've seen was horrible. One particular girl was picked on really badly by a group of about 4 girls. They called her every name under the sun, intimidated her into giving them the homework they didn't do, left horrible notes in her locker, waited for her after school and walked behind her on the way home and slagged her off the whole way.

    She was a total wreck and tried going to the teachers but the 4 girls were able to blag their way out of it. Myself and a few others went with her on one occasion as she wasn't getting anywhere and we were able to back up her story. The 4 girls just got a stern telling off and not much was done about it beyond that.

    She ended up leaving the school. Sometimes the non-physical suff can be just as bad as the physical.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    A lot of physical bullying in my school, beatings every day I would say...
    A lot of fights were fair too(these usually took place in the peace park at lunch), our school was full of knackers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    i was bullied. there was one guy who always picked on me. in the end, my friends kicked the crap out of him and it stopped.
    i did fight him once, but all his friends were around and i decided that it would be better to take a kicking from him, rather than beat the crap out of him and have the lot of them jump me. they later told me that they were hoping i would kick the crap out of him.
    he has no friends now. loser.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Never saw any ongoing physical bullying when I was in school. There was the usual throwing rubbers and stuff at the camp guy, and taunting the nerds, but physical abuse was rare. The geekiest guy in the school (and who was on the receiving end of most abuse for 3 years) ended up in fourth year being part of the jock gang, and is still a good mate of theirs.
    The only physical bullying which happened was when a scumbag in second year (who had stayed back a year and was a big guy anyway) beat the ****e out of another guy, bouncing his head off tables and walls. The other guy ended up in hospital and the scumbag was ejected from the school that afternoon by the year head. Last I heard he was dealing drugs and driving around in a van in Knocklyon trying to scare people. He's from a family of well-known scum who deal in second-hand cars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The incident I mentioned happened in a CBS, all boys.
    Stephen wrote:
    Just a question, of those of you that experienced bullying like the above, how many of you were in single-sex schools? I've heard before that occurrences of bullying and the like are lower in mixed schools.

    single-sex christian brothers schools ftl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    One particular girl was picked on really badly by a group of about 4 girls. They called her every name under the sun, intimidated her into giving them the homework they didn't do, left horrible notes in her locker, waited for her after school and walked behind her on the way home and slagged her off the whole way.

    She was a total wreck and tried going to the teachers but the 4 girls were able to blag their way out of it.

    Very similar stuff happened to my mate's younger sister between first and third year. She didn't leave the school because transition year was optional, so she chose to do it and the horrible bitches who bullied her didn't - or else they dropped out. So her last three years in school were much better, but she never really got over the first three years. It turned her into a mess, really. She has zero confidence and lets guys walk all over etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭StephenInsane


    I was bullied both physically and mentally in school. But I don't blame my bullies, actually I thank them for every belittlement and beating, they helped me develope into the person I am today.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Actually people that were bullied tend to be the nice people that I like today. Did bullies help ? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭StephenInsane


    Definitely, before my bullying I was an arrogant, self-centered coward. Years of sound bullying thought me humility, compassion and strength of character, I definitely would not be the person I am today if i hadn't been bullied. A previous poster mentioned that someone she knew who'd been bullied went on to captain the Irish u21 rugby team, I think this is the perfect example of how bullying can develope someone.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was verbally bullied at school. Today my parents told me that at the time the school didn't want to know, the principal was denying it happened in "his school." Eventually he said that it was out of his control - he didn't give a crap.
    She ended up leaving the school. Sometimes the non-physical suff can be just as bad as the physical.
    This is something I couldn't agree with more. Unfortunately, the bullying left me depressed in recent years, something the PI mods know all about...

    Seems to be different in my sister's new school, the principal gathered them all last night, including parents, for a meeting where she said they have a zero tolerance policy and all incidents should be reported.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 nickevan


    I got a bit of bullying dont know if it left me stronger


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