Could someone help me with my diet?

dlofnep

I'm on low carb diet at the moment along with ephedra. Right now due to my lack of knowledge on low carb food, I'm limited to chicken, tuna and water.

I eat my chicken in sandwiches (brown bread).. There seems to be a good few carbs in brown bread. havent compared it to white - What sort of bread should I be eating? If any?

I'm also going to add broccoli to my diet - Is there anythnig else I could add to make it interesting?

Word of advise for anyone who wants to try ephedra, don't unless you have to! Makes you feel like crap and completely drained

Budo.Judo.Kev

Consider posting something more specifc on the fitness forum and reading their stickies. Dragan and g'em give good advice.

there is about 100kcal in a small slice of brown bread so.....
Any idea how many kcal a day you're consuming? Try the spark website.

Give us a luck at your breakfast, lunch and dinner options. A good idea is 5 meals a day but smallish and not eating within 2.5 hours of each meal, and break a meal up half before and half after training.

Baggio...

When you say Brown bread are you referring to whole grain bread or just regular brown bread? If you are talking about R. Brown bread - don't eat it, it's contains quite a bit of refined sugar and carbs. Believe it or not it's pretty much just white bread that has been coloured (not a very well known fact), with a few extra grains or whatever added in.

Stone ground wholemeal is the best.


R.

MaeveD

dlofnep wrote:

ephedra

Hasn't that been proved dangerous and banned in the US etc?

dlofnep wrote:

Is there anythnig else I could add to make it interesting?

Why not try sweet potato....?
One baked (3 1/2 ounce serving) provides over 8,800 IU of vitamin A or about twice the recommended daily allowance, yet it contains only 141 calories making it valuable for the weight watcher. This nutritious vegetable provides 42 percent of the Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) for vitamin C, 6 percent of the RDA for calcium, 10 percent of the RDA for iron, and 8 percent of the RDA for thiamine for healthy adults. It is low in sodium and is a good source of fiber and other important vitamins and minerals. A complex carbohydrate food source, it provides beta carotene which may be a factor in reducing the risk of certain cancers.

yomchi

dlofnep wrote:

I'm on low carb diet at the moment along with ephedra. Right now due to my lack of knowledge on low carb food, I'm limited to chicken, tuna and water.

I eat my chicken in sandwiches (brown bread).. There seems to be a good few carbs in brown bread. havent compared it to white - What sort of bread should I be eating? If any?

I'm also going to add broccoli to my diet - Is there anythnig else I could add to make it interesting?

Word of advise for anyone who wants to try ephedra, don't unless you have to! Makes you feel like crap and completely drained

Why you using ephedra mate? There are plenty of decent fat burners out there that won't mess around with your blood pressure. Are you taking pure ephedrene? The usual side effects to ephedrene are a feeling of happiness and a sheer buzz, it is one of the ingrediants used in the making of amphetamines. However the come down for some people can be harsh. If you are using EPH Stack you will find it is mixed with Aspirin which irritates the stomach wall in high doses.

Anyways, if you are cutting out carbs like rice, pasta potatoes etc I would suggest that you stock up nicely on your fruit and veg which contain natural complex carbs and won't effect your blood sugars like man made carbs can. I would seriously recommend juicing your fruit and veg and making a fresh tangy smoothie out of them - I do that and believe me they are tasty!

Every day I bring with me ...

half stick cucumber
1 stick celery
1 big head of brocolli
1 big handful of spinach
3 golden delicious apples
5 rings of pineapple...

All juiced - then throw them in the blender with an advacado, it makes just over a pint of seriously tangy and tasty carbohydrate, fibre and fats - (2 servings a day)

Im in the Nutrition shop in Phibsboro if you're around that area drop in
anytime.

For fat burning just up your cardio and becareful of eph

Roper

Why are you on that extreme a diet? Are you weight cutting or is it a lifestyle thing?

Lifestyle wise, that is a bad, bad diet, chronically lacking in vitamins and combined with a supplement that has some alledged dubious side effects.

Black Swan

OP: What do you hope to accomplish with your diet? Not clear.

spiral

Try paleo diet or atkins,
no bread no pasta rice pizza potatoes, chips severely limit the dairy eat as much meat as you want with as many green veggies as you can a lot of eggs a reasonable amount of fruit and nuts which will supply the carbs.
Obviously no booze ice cream etc although if ya have ta drink spirits or wine .
Also drink a lot more water. I lost 20 pounds in 4 months was training 5-6 days a week and every 10 days 2 weeks had a day off an eat pizza or whatever.
Felt like **** for 4-5 daysthen was fine

dlofnep

So many posts. Thanks for the replies guys. I'm dieting on an extreme level ecause it's the only way I'll stick at it. I get disheartened easily, so if I don't see results ina few weeks - I usually give up. I'm also taking ephedra because my job involves sitting down all day, so I'm trying to make up for it.

I hope to lose about 1.5 stone. It's not stack ephedra btw, it's actually hydroxycut, so bits and bobs here and there.

Millionaire

jeez man, I would not be pumping that crap into me if I were you.

I am 85kg and I really should be I guess about 77kg ish, so like you I am on a goal of trying to shift a bit of fat. (I am 6 foot so I think 77kg would be good for me).

I got the beginnings of a bit of a gut, like spare tire, so that is not me... its going to go and that is that.

I too am sitting at a deak all day, like yesterday I was 15 hours atthe desk, which is not the norm...usually 12 hours.

As you know I do Muay Thai most days min 60 mins, sometimes I do this in 2 sessions...like 60 mins 7am....60mins 4pm ( i do not have time to do like 2 hours a session like the fighters do). On saturdays I do this 2 hours though.

I got a fairly healthy diet....60 - 70% fresh veg and fruit for example. I gave up booze over 3 weeks ago.

Why do you not just up the cardio big time.? (on top of your bjj training)

Did you ever see a fat long distance runner????

For example I run 30 mins at 10km speef per hour flat out (I am 85% towards this goal). once I get to this level, I will shoot for 12km in 30 mins. (warm up, cool down is outside of this).

Tomorrow for a vaiety I am going to do the 30min Team Quest (ultimate fighter) program, 5mins 8km 5mins 9km upping by 1km every 5 mins to a 30 min max.

I believe by upping my cardio through running, in a few months I will get rid of that extra 8 - 10kg I carry, and get back into size 32 jeans! (I outgrew 32 about 4 months back!!!! )

I know there is many more complicate and great systems out there that give good results, but I have not the time to do them...like Body for Life. but for me they are too complicated and take too much time to follow.

So if in mornings after thai trainingi can hop on my threadmill for 30 mins flat out for me... I can get it over and done with, and i know imporvements will show soon.

Once I was almost 13 stones and had to get down to 12 stone for a fight. I was running fast 2 miles plus each morning at 6am, with push up/sit up after, and 5 days a week doing kickboxing for 2 hours (mainly sparring).

I did not shed a pound for the first 7 weeks....I BS you not.... after week 7 the 14 lbs(1stone) just fell off real fast.

So maybe you are hopping on and off the scales too much expecting too much too soon.

Just commit to 2 months consistent upped hard cardio, and see what happens?

Thats what i am doing!

we could buddy up and post our results/fitness diary on here, for motivation if you like?

Millionaire

dlofnep wrote:

I get disheartened easily, so if I don't see results ina few weeks - I usually give up. .

Thats your problem right here...

re read what I said happened me when training for the kickboxing fight.
(and I was out of shape then, as was 5 years before was last time I fought/trained like that.was 30 at time)

dlofnep

I run up a big long road at the back of my house after work and hit my heavybag for about 45 minutes.. I also sprint out to the far car park in work at lunchtime, just so I'm not sitting down in work all day. Anything at all really..

I only started my diet on monday. I started at 11 stone on the button. I'm only 5'4" so It's really not suiting me. I'll update my weight weekly.

Question - When should I weigh myself? After training, I've lost alot of water weight, so is that an accurate result? What's the normal thing to do?

Millionaire

This is what I think....

Its not a fitness problem as such, or that you need some super dooper diet.

Your an MA man, and you train, and your running, hitting bag. etc....

The problem is you do not see results quick enough, so you get discouraged and give up....

This is a motivation problem!

So here is what to do... and remember I am in exactly the same boat as you, right!?! similar weight loss goal!

For now.... Forget about weighing yourself...why do I say that?...cause your not seeing a result fast enough, and you start to associate pain to the training process, and you say "whats the use of this" and you give up.

What you need to do, is anchor Pleasure to the process that will ultimately loose you weight...

In my case, its blasting on the threadmill at least 5 days minimum a weeks. (you got to set you base line standard of how many sessions a week, and stick to it, no matter what).

So each time I run, I congradulate myself, and reward myself for doing it. (associating pleasure to it ) which ensures I do it again tomorrow! running becomes a pleasureable experience to me.. (even though sometmes I feel like puking when I push it!!).

Based on past experience, I am fairly confident, in a few months, I will see a difference. If I am consistent. anyway I am an MA man, so I should be doing this sort of running anyway, to have wind to fight.


So what I am saying bottom line, just work out consistent, and hard for next say 2 months cardio etc, stop weighting yourself, and see in 8 weeks time...what the differece will be.!!!

Of course watch food too, and no booze.

yomchi

dlofnep wrote:

I run up a big long road at the back of my house after work and hit my heavybag for about 45 minutes.. I also sprint out to the far car park in work at lunchtime, just so I'm not sitting down in work all day. Anything at all really..

I only started my diet on monday. I started at 11 stone on the button. I'm only 5'4" so It's really not suiting me. I'll update my weight weekly.

Question - When should I weigh myself? After training, I've lost alot of water weight, so is that an accurate result? What's the normal thing to do?

What you should be aiming for is low intensity cardio before you eat in the morning if you are 30 years of age your heart rate shout be about 110 BPM for approx 40 mins so your body uses its fat stores for energy. High intensity cardio like sprinting or even heavy bag work will use glycogen from the Liver and in sprinting ATP will be used and you will not be burning fat.

40 mins before breakfast in the morning is what you're after.

Ephedrene is banned, ephedra as you call it is the name of the plant that ephedrene/MaHuang comes from. If you are competing at MMA bare in mind you are using a banned substance which brings into play all the usual moral and ethical questions of substances like ephedrene - not to mention the health risks.

There are healthier and esier ways to burn fat - all of which are posted above!

Dragan

Hey man, for an effective diet, meal timing is everything and portion control is everything else.

Post up everything you eat over the course of the day, and the time you eat it at....also include your training etc......when you do this the answers will all become clear and we can move on from there.

Diet does not have to be a painful thing dude, we'll work out something that will work, and won't be torture to stick to.

Millionaire

what that Jon about running???

Do you think, I should slow down my pace?

I do run on empty stomach before breakfast.

I thought is I lashed it out of it, I would loose the extra Kgs?

I tried the Body for Life running style, the other day, and it did not take a flinch out of me, so I went back to pushing it hard.

Millionaire

I want to post my diet too, I need help too!!!

7am Muay Thai 1 hour
815am running 30 mins (aiming 5km in 30 mins, speed 10km)

830 or 9am ish breakfast .... plate of raw cucumber + apple, scramble egg, brown toast

1pm is Tuna sandwich on brown bread with onion/veg.... or roastchicken veg + thai noodle.

4pm sometimes 1 hour Muay Thai (do 2nd session maybe 2 - 3 days a week)

7pm sort of cabbage + green veg raw heated in water, and BBQ fresh port...fat drains off it. I eat a massive plate of pretty much raw leafy veg.

Tons and tons of water.

12 midnight... this is the problem can 7Up and Mars bar (I needed something to replace the 4 cans of beer!).

looking at starting dumbell work out 2 - 3 dats a week...

I was thinking of this, and need advice on this... (from another post I had) ....

Can you give me some ideas on this dumbell work out.

first I am not a massive fan of lifting weights in the bedroom alone... I find it hard to do, and also I am no where near a gym, where I do feel motivated...

I got a set of dumbells with 12.4kg of plates each.

Today I did this from a standing position, at a fast pace, with no rest time between each excersise, I quickly switched from one to the other in the one movement.

10 reps biceps curls..both arms together
10 reps shoulder press
10 reps for back...sort of bent over row i think you call it
10 reps shoulder shrugs
10 reps dumbell bench press
then I took just 1 dumbell and held with both arms behind head, for triceps 10 reps.

I felt real out of breath, with a nice after weights buzz!! and I enjoyed it alot. (I do not enjoy the normal 3 sets, changing plates and all that if alone).

so I was thinking this...

If i did 3 sets of this whole rountine, with a few mins rest between the sets, maybe 3 days a week. I could even thrown in 50 hindu squats after for the leg work.

I am not trying to be body builder...just burn a little flab, tone up the muscles, look like a fighter should.

What do you think of this routine. and what benefits will it bring me.???

It is a quick routine, I do not have to be mess around changing weights, I can pump it to music, and most important of all, I enjoyed and it felt good!

dlofnep

Jon wrote:

What you should be aiming for is low intensity cardio before you eat in the morning if you are 30 years of age your heart rate shout be about 110 BPM for approx 40 mins so your body uses its fat stores for energy. High intensity cardio like sprinting or even heavy bag work will use glycogen from the Liver and in sprinting ATP will be used and you will not be burning fat.

40 mins before breakfast in the morning is what you're after.

Ephedrene is banned, ephedra as you call it is the name of the plant that ephedrene/MaHuang comes from. If you are competing at MMA bare in mind you are using a banned substance which brings into play all the usual moral and ethical questions of substances like ephedrene - not to mention the health risks.

There are healthier and esier ways to burn fat - all of which are posted above!

What sort of excercises do you recommend for low intensity cardio? Do you know any other appetitite suppressents other than ephedrine? I think I'll stop taking it. It's making me feel really horrible.

Baggio...

spiral wrote:

or atkins

DO NOT do the Atkins diet - it's crap for you. It deprives you body of essential carbs (the fuel that the body needs). It works, but it's very bad for you.

I lost over a stone recently (still got more to loose ) buy switching my eating habits - and drinking a lot of fruit smoothies I not that hungry, so I find it easy to stick to it.

I'd agree with Roper, diets per se are not the way to go (95% failure rate incidently) – it's a lifestyle change. When you go on a crash diet your body goes into survival mode and slows down you metabolism thus slowing the weight loss right down despite the lack of food.

R.

dlofnep

I'm drinking a strawberry smoothie right now for breakfast. it sure beats chicken sandwiches!

/V\etalfish

On a similar note ..bit of a stupid question here i think.
But i've been out of training for quiet a while now, but hope to go back training soon again.
I've piled on the pounds obviously and was kind of hoping that just getting back into the training will lose the pounds for me again, or will i have to eat properly at the same time ?
(cos i do love my food )

columok

JOB,

Do a search for the Paleo Diet. It's everything you're looking for and more. While your body may need carbs give it fruit and veggie carbs.

Basically eat:

Lean meat and fish
All fruit and veggies bar potatoes/turnips/swedes. (easy on the bananas)

No grains. No milk. No sugar. No legumes.

Avoid processed food.

dlofnep

A bit of both Deccy, cut back on the pepperoni dominos pizzas and you should be ok and go train with Tim

Not that I'm a diet expert or anything. lol

Drummo

dlofnep wrote:

it sure beats chicken sandwiches!

But it doesn't beata chicken and stuffing sandwich!!!

/V\etalfish

dlofnep wrote:

A bit of both Deccy, cut back on the pepperoni dominos pizzas and you should be ok and go train with Tim

Not that I'm a diet expert or anything. lol

*sniff*
it'l be hard giving up the dominos alright !!!
But i'd say once i start training and realise how unfit i am, i'll sort the diet out then too.
Might aswell enjoy my food while i can though

Drummo

/V\etalfish wrote:

On a similar note ..bit of a stupid question here i think.
But i've been out of training for quiet a while now, but hope to go back training soon again.
I've piled on the pounds obviously and was kind of hoping that just getting back into the training will lose the pounds for me again, or will i have to eat properly at the same time ?
(cos i do love my food )

When you get back into the training, you'll be more inclined to eat well......

.....hopefully.

dlofnep

columok wrote:

JOB,

Do a search for the Paleo Diet. It's everything you're looking for and more. While your body may need carbs give it fruit and veggie carbs.

Basically eat:

Lean meat and fish
All fruit and veggies bar potatoes/turnips/swedes. (easy on the bananas)

No grains. No milk. No sugar. No legumes.

Avoid processed food.

Sounds kind of what I have right now. Chicken, Tuna, Fruit Smoothies, Water and green veg.

What sort of lean meat could I add?

dlofnep

Drummo wrote:

But it doesn't beata chicken and stuffing sandwich!!!

LOL.. I don't think I'm allowed stuffing.

Drummo

dlofnep wrote:

LOL.. I don't think I'm allowed stuffing.

Man, you should eat right as much as you can, that goes without saying, but never deny yourself anything absolutely, you'll only start to crave it! (Obviously, I'm not talking about a chicken and stuffing sandwich ha ha ha)

dlofnep

Eat all you can diet! I'm not depriving myself as such, maybe a little - No results without some pain aye?

columok

Smoothies are processed. The smoothie machine does the breaking down the fruit work that your body should be. Instead just eat some bloody fruit.

Dragan

Hey guys,

The very basis of anyone's routine ( I hate the word diet, I really do ) should always be based around when they sleep and when they train.

You have to look at what you do over the course of a day and when your body will need different types of food. If you train from 5 to 7 in the evening then your body will need glycogen ( carbs ) for fuel and amino acids to avoid catabolism ( burning muscle mass ) during these hours. Afterwards it will need carbs to restore lost glycogen, proteins to repair damaged muscle and most of all……rest. If you train in the evening you don't need to sit there all day and eat to "have energy" to train….it's not required.

Myself and a friend have developed a Protocol that we call "Anacat" which we think we will be very effective for bringing people to a healthy bodyweight. You can read up more on it at my site through the link below. http://teamtest.freeforumsite.com/teamtest-about761.html

Please note the article is written from the point of view of maximising lean muscle gain…..as this is where our interest would lie….however some minor changes to supplementation ( or just cutting it out completely if you are fully paleo ) and this protocol can match your nutritional base quite well.

Give it a read if you interested and see what you think….if you have any question just post them hear and I will be happy to offer what help I can.

PLease note there is nothing in here that is not common sense, sometimes it just helps to have it all written out.

dlofnep

columok wrote:

Smoothies are processed. The smoothie machine does the breaking down the fruit work that your body should be. Instead just eat some bloody fruit.

*throws smoothie in the bin*

dlofnep

Now all I have is a banana for lunch. Erm, half a banana.. I think I'll go to the shop and buy a can of tuna.

columok

chicken breast and a few apples or oranges.

dlofnep

I had chicken fillets but they fell on the ground as I was getting out of my car this morning

Dragan

dlofnep wrote:

Now all I have is a banana for lunch. Erm, half a banana.. I think I'll go to the shop and buy a can of tuna.

Dlofnep, did it ever occur to you that you might be undereating now????

columok

Yeah you should be eating chicken or fish and veggies til your full. All that watery proteiny vitaminy goodness is what your system needs.

dlofnep

Dragan wrote:

Dlofnep, did it ever occur to you that you might be undereating now????

That's why I'm buying a can of tuna..

Dragan

dlofnep wrote:

That's why I'm buying a can of tuna..

I mean on a weekly basis.....i would still suggest that you post you full daily diet and excercise.

dlofnep

Ok.

Yesterday.

Breakfast, chicken sandwich on brown bread with a glass of water.
Lunch, chicken sandwich, banana and water.
Dinner, can of tuna & broccoli with a glass of water.

2 hours of jiu-jitsu. Bag work, some pushups, burpees and situps.


Day before was similar, but without the can of tuna.

Excercises, bagwork for about 45 minutes - an hour, then a light jog for about half an hour or so. Maybe more..

beefa

dlofnep wrote:

*throws smoothie in the bin*

Retrieve the smoothie machine from the bin, this type of processing is good! Because the smoothie maker breaks down the food, the nutrients are absorbed quickly into the body, smoothies and more so juices, are a handy way of increasing your raw fruit and vegtable intake, which is super important in the diet, also if you drink the pulp then you get the fibre too!
The type of processed food to avoid is refined food like bread, white rice, pasta.... or basically anything that is packaged in plastic.

Millionaire

someone told me tool, I could have been undereating (i think it was Boru, a Colm 2 Kings) , as I was just eating the fruit and cucumber for brekkie, and I was told to add in some protein....hence the scrambled eggs (two).

I think the fact I put on the weight was that I drank beer almost ever night for 18 months! LOL! I got away with it for years, and it only start to catch me up, fat wise a few months ago.

It will be interested JOB, say by 31 Oct, which approx 11 weeks away to post both our progress..

anyone get a chance to look at that dumbell routine, I posted earlier... I was looking for some feedback on it?

FiannaGym.com

Hey man,

The rules...

Aim to eat 6 meals a day.
Eat 12 peices of fruit a day.
Replace patatoes, bread, rice and pasta with fruit and veg where possible, and if impossible make sure it is brown and in as small a portion as possible.
Remember, eating meat has a "thermogenic" effect so its all good.

A good break down of each meal should be:
Meat portion the size of your fist (or a "deck of cards" but I think that is way too little)
Veg portion the size of your fist
"Carbs" portion deck of cards sized (thats bread, pasta, patatoes, rice) of course it would be better if you just boiled brocolli instead of this.

If you want to get into shape the best thing to do is follow crossfit. NOw I know I keep saying it, and I know to alot of people it seems inaccesible due to very complex lifts or difficult to find equipment (I did pick up a concept 2 for €500 2 weeks ago!!!) but non-the-less the philosophy that "is" crossfit can be applied to everyone, regardless of training level or equipment.

On their site they give this advice...

"World-Class Fitness in 100 Words:
Eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar. Keep intake to levels that will support exercise but not body fat. Practice and train major lifts: Deadlift, clean, squat, presses, C&J, and snatch. Similarly, master the basics of gymnastics: pull-ups, dips, rope climb, push-ups, sit-ups, presses to handstand, pirouettes, flips, splits, and holds. Bike, run, swim, row, etc, hard and fast. Five or six days per week mix these elements in as many combinations and patterns as creativity will allow. Routine is the enemy. Keep workouts short and intense. Regularly learn and play new sports."

So, since you do MMA, variety of sports isn't a problem.
I would recomend that you "clean-up" your diet. Forget about "carbs" or any of that because you don't know enough about it. It's fine for people who are into nutrition but if you just want to become a ripped monster "Forget about it!". I go with Paleo all the way, I dub it the king diet because by-and-large, foods that fall into the non-paleo catagorey were for peasants while kings dined on meat, fruit and vegtables.

Remember, the more muscle you have, the more calories your body will consume so lifting weights, doing calinsthetics etc is great.

Aim to keep your training as short as possible, and Frank Shamrock also says ALWAYS eat no later than half an hour after training! Don't faste, if you graze like a horse you'll be ripped like a horse, if you eat big meals with large breaks in between you'll be fat like a bear.

Ditch supplements and add chillis and pumpkin seed oil to your diet, maybe drink some green tea. If you can, sit on a swiss ball rather than a chair at work - you dont need to work out on it or anything just sit their, your BJJ and your posture will thank you for it!

If you have 5 minutes in the morning do some cardio, just 5 mins to get kick started, any longer and your body will store fat to give you the energy for it. Never train on an empty stomach!

If I can help with anything else let me know,

Peace and good luck

Dragan

dlofnep wrote:

Ok.

Yesterday.

Breakfast, chicken sandwich on brown bread with a glass of water.
Lunch, chicken sandwich, banana and water.
Dinner, can of tuna & broccoli with a glass of water.

2 hours of jiu-jitsu. Bag work, some pushups, burpees and situps.

Like i thought, you are undereating.....i take it you are working off the "less food equals more weight loss" school of thought, which to be quite frank will never work for you.

It's about finding a balance between the foods you need and the times you need them, and when you need to eat small.

As said, i suggest you check out the stickies in fitness, and have a look around my own forum in the "Losing Weight" section.

columok

Retrieve the smoothie machine from the bin, this type of processing is good! Because the smoothie maker breaks down the food, the nutrients are absorbed quickly into the body, smoothies and more so juices, are a handy way of increasing your raw fruit and vegtable intake, which is super important in the diet, also if you drink the pulp then you get the fibre too!

Means the calories hits your system quicker means you have a higher sugar spike and an equivalent sugar crash. Processing is never good. The rawer the better. Also you can eat unnatural amounts of fruit or veg without realising it.

Millionaire

this is where I get really confused...

some say...run on empty stomach in morning (Body for life e.g.to burn fat ) others say...never run on empty stomach as you store fat.

Do not run fast (does not burn fat) Vs Crossfit e.g. run fast and hard.

This is where I get real confused, and do not know what to do???

dlofnep

Ok thanks guys. Appreciated the detailed post Fianna.

Roper

I think if you have a lot of weight to lose, then you should start slow with runs and stuff and then build up to higher intensity. There's the risk of injury for one, and also the motivation factors.

If you start at high intensity, with a high intensity diet like the one you've posted, then you'll crash. Everybody crashes sometimes, but if the lifestyle you have isn't sparse and rigid, you can get back on the bike far easier. I'm currently in a crash zone thanks to injuries and reality, so if you'll excuse me, I'm off for a coffee and a flapjack!:D

Just my 2 centimes.

Dragan

Millionaire wrote:

some say...run on empty stomach in morning (Body for life e.g.to burn fat ) others say...never run on empty stomach as you store fat.

Do not run fast (does not burn fat) Vs Crossfit e.g. run fast and hard.

There is no reason why running on a empty stomach in the morning would help.

The argument for this is that you have not eaten carbs and will therefore burn more fat. However, this could only apply if your body used all it's stored carbs ( glycogen ) while you were asleep. This simply does not happen.

The only way your body would be this low on carbs if you were purposefully following what is called a Ketogenic diet plan, which is not for the faint hearted or to be honest is not something recommend for the ordinary person looking to lose weight.

The simple fact of the matter is that as a normal person, and espically for Martial Arts, if you follow what Pearse wrote above, this will make you a monster. Remember that "Body For Life" is all very cleverly marketed……whereas Crossfit is out there in the real world, with people like me posting on it's board and testing it everyday.

Since I introduced some Crossfit workouts to my routine I have lost another 25 pounds of useless body fat, my Deadlift has gone from 308 pounds to 400 pounds, my squat has gone from 225 pounds for reps to 308 pounds, my Hang Clean and Jerk has gone from 130 pounds to 180 pounds. I can run faster and further, my conditiong is much better and I feel a lot better.

Those are real world results, not something being glossed up by a marketing department. And I am so with Pearse on the Pumpkin Seed Oil as well.

For now, one of my goals means I need to add as much size as I can, to do that there are simple things I need to do. When I am done with this current goal I will live my live by Paleo and by Crossfit.

Colm_OReilly

The body needs a certain amount of sugar to burn fat. Protein is a preferred source of energy than fat so running on an empty stomach will reduce your muscle mass to some degree.

dlofnep, drink a **** load more water