Videos about atheism

Tar.Aldarion

I just saw this on youtube, I would like to see more videos about things like this, I do find them ever so interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVucvo-kDU&mode=related&search=?

What do you think of it? I will refrain from my musings about it for now.

Anybody have any interesting videos I would like to watch?
They don't have to be 'correct, just interesting.

Asiaprod

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

I just saw this on youtube, I would like to see more videos about things like this, I do find them ever so interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVucvo-kDU&mode=related&search=?

What do you think of it? I will refrain from my musings about it for now.
.

Thanks Tar. Very enjoyable. I never realized that Superman was one too.
Now I am impressed by him.

pH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alLkRcQcwk0

You know, I can't tell if it's taking the piss out of atheists or theists (or both!) - a sign of good comedy perhaps - but I like it

5uspect

ah youtube the new wikipedia for those of us with too much bandwidth and that are too lazy to read!

Some of the responses to the atheist video are gas, I'll see if I can find some more good atheist ones tho...

5uspect

I found some long ones on google video, this might be worth a look.
Its nearly 2 hours long tho so be warned.

Dades

Watch that before - Carl Sagan is my hero.

Asiaprod wrote:

Thanks Tar. Very enjoyable. I never realized that Superman was one too.

That is surprising. I heard most people on Krypton were Baptists.

lostexpectation

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

I just saw this on youtube, I would like to see more videos about things like this, I do find them ever so interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVucvo-kDU&mode=related&search=?

What do you think of it? I will refrain from my musings about it for now.

Anybody have any interesting videos I would like to watch?
They don't have to be 'correct, just interesting.

its good... I don't if naming a load of scientist and famous people really does that much

Tar.Aldarion

Thanks, I'll look at those videos when I get the chance.

lostexpectation wrote:

its good... I don't if naming a load of scientist and famous people really does that much

It's just interesting, fool does not even mean fool in a low iq sense in that passage of the bible.
There are errors in logic in the video, but I like it.

pH

I'm not going to link to it but on youtube if you search for passion and atheist you will find the 'atheist' version of 'The Passion of the Christ'.

I haven't a religious bone in my body, and yet I found the video strangely disturbing.

I must say - don't go and search for it and watch it if you think you will be offended. My intention is not to offend anybody or trick anyone into watching it.

Any comments on it? Is it funny? Is it just very bad taste? Does it have a message that outweighs its possible offence?

Tar.Aldarion

Ok, Yours will be the first I watch, I see why you didn't link! :eek:

Dude, this video is totally offensive to anyone who loves and remembers Spartacus. Or at least, I think someone might be offended by it. Which, y'know, makes it dangerous, or something. Maybe I should call the DHS.

Lmao.

Ciaran500

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YOIImOoYM

Just found this on youtube. He makes a very good argument against religions as a whole.

5uspect

Ciaran500 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YOIImOoYM

Just found this on youtube. He makes a very good argument against religions as a whole.

I quite enjoyed that. Thanks for posting it. He does make some very good points, it seems so obvious when you look at it his way.

pH

Jonathan Miller's - A brief history of disbelief
Part 1 59 mins

I can't find parts 2 & 3 at the moment.

Dades

pH wrote:

I'm not going to link to it but on youtube if you search for passion and atheist you will find the 'atheist' version of 'The Passion of the Christ'.

Any comments on it? Is it funny? Is it just very bad taste? Does it have a message that outweighs its possible offence?

I watched it and I'm sorry I did.
It's no wonder "atheists" are considered in a bad light by so many when they are (wrongly) associated with sh*t like this.

pH

The Atheist wrote:

I watched it and I'm sorry I did.
It's no wonder "atheists" are considered in a bad light by so many when they are (wrongly) associated with sh*t like this.

Interesting that you didn't find any humour at all in it.

What I found thought-provoking was that it is all footage from a praised (from a Christian pov) movie just with added music. No commentary, no mocking, nothing you haven't seen and yet the result screams 'blasphemy' and disrespect.

JM's history of disbelief is well worth a watch though!

Dades

pH wrote:

Interesting that you didn't find any humour at all in it.

What I found thought-provoking was that it is all footage from a praised (from a Christian pov) movie just with added music. No commentary, no mocking, nothing you haven't seen and yet the result screams 'blasphemy' and disrespect.

Putting aside the fact that its meant to represent many peoples' God - it's still making light of a guy getting horribly tortured to death.

But it's really the association with atheism that grates on me.

Tim Robbins

The Atheist wrote:

I watched it and I'm sorry I did.
It's no wonder "atheists" are considered in a bad light by so many when they are (wrongly) associated with sh*t like this.

I'd 100% agree with this. I had to turn it off half way through.

Asiaprod

Tim Robbins wrote:

I'd 100% agree with this. I had to turn it off half way through.

Then I won't waste my time watching it.

Ciaran500

The Atheist wrote:

I watched it and I'm sorry I did.
It's no wonder "atheists" are considered in a bad light by so many when they are (wrongly) associated with sh*t like this.

I lol'ed

Don't take it so seriously

Dades

Ciaran500 wrote:

I lol'ed

Don't take it so seriously

Hmmm. I think you're missing the point. To me this is a gory movie with stupid music, but to a Christian this video is incredibly offensive. I care about the negative perception Christians have of atheists (possibly in the same way a politician cares about what his electorate think of him), and therefore am unhappy to see it labelled as an atheist movie. The notions of atheism, free-thought, humanism - whatever - are damaged by association. I won't lose sleep over it, but it's worth a minor rant IMO.

Tar.Aldarion

As people commented, it has nothing got to do with atheis, it's poorly titled.

robindch

> I'm not going to link to it but on youtube if you search for passion and
> atheist you will find the 'atheist' version of 'The Passion of the Christ'.
> I haven't a religious bone in my body, and yet I found the video
> strangely disturbing. [...] Any comments on it?

I presume this is the one with the Benny Hill music? Well, as The Atheist says, yes, I think most christians would find it offensive and its name should not be linked with "atheism".

However, I wonder how many people found Gibson's film over the top? I don't recall many christians getting upset about its own two hours of repetitive and gratuitous violence!

nitrogen

The Atheist wrote:

Hmmm. I think you're missing the point. To me this is a gory movie with stupid music, but to a Christian this video is incredibly offensive. I care about the negative perception Christians have of atheists (possibly in the same way a politician cares about what his electorate think of him), and therefore am unhappy to see it labelled as an atheist movie. The notions of atheism, free-thought, humanism - whatever - are damaged by association. I won't lose sleep over it, but it's worth a minor rant IMO.

I couldn't agree more with you. I didn't find it amusing, but ironic how different it is with music and editing of the oringinal content. A similar video was done with the Shining, showing a trailer for a happy family movie.

I fail to see why it's got to be labeled as an Atheist video though.

Dades

robindch wrote:

However, I wonder how many people found Gibson's film over the top? I don't recall many christians getting upset about its own two hours of repetitive and gratuitous violence!

I suppose it's not seen as 'gratuitous' from certain Christian perspective. It's to hammer home the message. Personally I think the Easter Bunny gives out a happier message.

That "atheist" version is as close as I want to get to ever watching the feature. I'm not saying "Down with that kind of thing", rather a review I read summed up what I suspected:

For moviegoers who don’t share Mel Gibson’s religious agenda, it’s nothing but an unpleasant experience.

robindch

> It's to hammer home the message.

Yes, that's about it.

On a related topic, does anybody else find it mildly unsettling to see depictions of Jesus' corpse hanging from the walls of churches? I breezed through the catholic church in Kiev on saturday evening and couldn't help but notice that the only internal decorations visible from the front door (as far as I went), were three corpses, one of them about fifteen feet tall and the other two about two feet tall, and lusciously spattered with Mel-Gibson-style gore. Am I becoming excessively sensitive in my dotage?

Dave!

Keep posting the videos, lads!

pH

John Safran vs. God - Atheists
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HBkUWbFjdpg

Proving that Prayer is Superstition
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BH0rFZIqo8A

(Also see other videos from Why won't God heal Amputees?)
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=GIIVideo

Zillah

I agree that calling it the "Atheist's Version" was ignorant and misleading. I found the video quite amusing, and frankly I have no problem grossly offending Christians, but thats my point of view, not the Atheistic point of view.

robindch wrote:

On a related topic, does anybody else find it mildly unsettling to see depictions of Jesus' corpse hanging from the walls of churches? I breezed through the catholic church in Kiev on saturday evening and couldn't help but notice that the only internal decorations visible from the front door (as far as I went), were three corpses, one of them about fifteen feet tall and the other two about two feet tall, and lusciously spattered with Mel-Gibson-style gore. Am I becoming excessively sensitive in my dotage?

I hadn't been inside a church for years, not since I was a wee one. Then I had a funeral to attend, and I very nearly started laughing at my own grandmother's funeral when it struck me how absolutely absurd it all was. There was a big bloody jesus hanging above us, the priest was mummbling about eternal life this and other dimension that and I felt like turning to my mother, my father, my cousins, these people who seemed so normal and sane, grab them and shake them and ask "Do you seriously believe what he's saying?! You think you're going to another dimension when you die, that that guy died to to assuage mankind's sins? You actually think that you, personally, sister who I see everyday eating toast and watching TV, you think you're going to live forever with a magic being on another plane of existence when you die?" You, who scoff if you see Most Haunted on TV because ghosts are "bullshit", you who roll your eyes if I mention the possibility of alien life on other worlds, you, honestly believe that you have an immortal soul that will travel to the God who blew up Sodom, who tortured Job, who created the universe to further glorify himself...?

Quite an upsetting moment really. Well, kinda liberating too, it really rammed home just how much of an Atheist I had become.

5uspect

More evolution Vs creationism but they're still good

pH

Ricky Gervais explains Genesis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EXqdJ4L7I&mode=related&search=

Schuhart

I didn’t watch it all – its 40 minutes ffs. I'd just take some comfort in the fact that someone’s worried enough about Godless hoards diverting the faithful from the true path to make the film. The collapse of Atheism

Dades

Schuhart wrote:

I didn’t watch it all – its 40 minutes ffs. I'd just take some comfort in the fact that someone’s worried enough about Godless hoards diverting the faithful from the true path to make the film. The collapse of Atheism

I'm 15 minutes in and not sure I can take any more...

The narrator is currently explaining how we must have been designed as it can be no coincidence that the earth is just the right distance from the sun, and that our gravity is just right for human life.

I also like the way when it talks about the "dogmas" of atheism the solumn music plays, and the video shows miscellaneous 20th century atrocities within a frame of flames.

ALSO - they use literary quotes to back up every argument - but they are ALL from the one book called God: The Evidence!!

Incidentally Hitler and his closest collegues were all atheists, and their atheism caused the death of 55m people in WWII.

Finally: atheism which people have tried for hundreds of years to portray as the way of reason and science is proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance. Huzzah!

Dammit I just watched the whole thing.

robindch

> Incidentally Hitler and his closest collegues were all atheists, and their
> atheism caused the death of 55m people in WWII.

There's an interesting disparity here -- any time that an atheist commits a crime, the atheist system is to blame. Whenever a believer-in-god commits a crime, it's the person at fault and not the religious system. Systems which can't go wrong? All very Orwellian, isn't it?

Scofflaw

Zillah wrote:

I hadn't been inside a church for years, not since I was a wee one. Then I had a funeral to attend, and I very nearly started laughing at my own grandmother's funeral when it struck me how absolutely absurd it all was. There was a big bloody jesus hanging above us, the priest was mummbling about eternal life this and other dimension that and I felt like turning to my mother, my father, my cousins, these people who seemed so normal and sane, grab them and shake them and ask "Do you seriously believe what he's saying?! You think you're going to another dimension when you die, that that guy died to to assuage mankind's sins? You actually think that you, personally, sister who I see everyday eating toast and watching TV, you think you're going to live forever with a magic being on another plane of existence when you die?" You, who scoff if you see Most Haunted on TV because ghosts are "bullshit", you who roll your eyes if I mention the possibility of alien life on other worlds, you, honestly believe that you have an immortal soul that will travel to the God who blew up Sodom, who tortured Job, who created the universe to further glorify himself...?

Quite an upsetting moment really. Well, kinda liberating too, it really rammed home just how much of an Atheist I had become.

You would have enjoyed my grandmother's funeral. After the obligatory wittering by a C of E minister, my father stood up and spoke, starting with "as you all know, my mother was an atheist". Same again at my great-aunt's funeral (plus she wrote the service, so we all exited to March of the Clowns).

I'm sorry to say that it was a great pleasure to me to watch the ministers wriggling on these occasions.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Scofflaw

The Atheist wrote:

I'm 15 minutes in and not sure I can take any more...

The narrator is currently explaining how we must have been designed as it can be no coincidence that the earth is just the right distance from the sun, and that our gravity is just right for human life.

I also like the way when it talks about the "dogmas" of atheism the solumn music plays, and the video shows miscellaneous 20th century atrocities within a frame of flames.

ALSO - they use literary quotes to back up every argument - but they are ALL from the one book called God: The Evidence!!

Incidentally Hitler and his closest collegues were all atheists, and their atheism caused the death of 55m people in WWII.

Finally: atheism which people have tried for hundreds of years to portray as the way of reason and science is proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance. Huzzah!

Dammit I just watched the whole thing.

Another one from the stable of "we're saying it, so it must be true". Such a shame that all the statistics contradict them.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Tim Robbins

Scofflaw wrote:

I'm sorry to say that it was a great pleasure to me to watch the ministers wriggling on these occasions.

cordially,
Scofflaw

why? Do you feel the need to think you are better than someone?
not sure what stats you are talking about BTW

Scofflaw

Tim Robbins wrote:

why? Do you feel the need to think you are better than someone?
not sure what stats you are talking about BTW

Not really. I am sufficiently convinced of my superiority not to require further demonstrations.

It's just amusing, given that a minister is imposed by the state on the funeral of an atheist, to watch said minister squirming but unable to say anything out of politeness. I am, by and large, fond of ministers of religion as a species, so it's not personal!

Stats in questions would be in relation to the growth of atheism/agnosticism/no formal religion in most of the First World outside the US (even in the US, although it's more of a polarisation movement).

cordially,
Scofflaw

Schuhart

How to prove the presence of GOD to an Atheist. God plays dice, apparently. Does it prove the presence of God to an Atheist? No, it just illustrates the value of selective quotation and partial history.

Schuhart

Just watched two hours of this - I found the time passed quickly. Basically a scientist called Ken Miller takes apart Intelligent Design and talks about some of the legal actions in America over efforts to include it on the school curriculum.

Not strictly athiest, as he mentions that he's Roman Catholic, but something that gave me some pleasure in seeing that ideal of free thought in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg

pH

South Park - Go God Go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaoJArDxTlA (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXHR-ZBhFTo&NR (Part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKCNU5OuxnU&NR (Part 3)

m83

Richard Dawkins Q & A.

Not sure if this has been posted but it makes for terrific viewing if you have time.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qR_z85O0P2M

18AD

Richard Dawkins documentary:
Part 1: http://tinyurl.com/y4frpx
Part 2: http://tinyurl.com/y4ue6h

About the original video, it seemed more like an effort to redeem atheism or promote it.

Obo

This is the videos of Beyond Belief 2006, which was a conference put together by the Science Network and was held in November. It was for scientists to get together and discuss the issues that surround religion.

http://beyondbelief2006.org/Watch/

There is something like 15hrs worth of video.
I've only gone through the first day of the conference so far, but it's been very interesting.

Esmereldina

Interesting...

I'm not sure exactly what tone the person who made this was trying to strike either.

I would also agree with this

lostexpectation wrote:

its good... I don't if naming a load of scientist and famous people really does that much

It did seem to just reinforce the idea of an elite club of white men (and one woman) ...

It did make 5 minutes pass quite entertainingly though!

HealingBlight

I do a fair bit of browsing on youtube for stuff, though if you look at my faves the massive bulk is John Stewart and Stephen Colbert, however, 3 users of interest might be:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ExtantDodo
For a nice post mortem on the corpse that -was- some of Kent Hovinds seminars. Good highlight to show how bad a creationist gets. On the upside, I think he is in jail for a while now. Complaining about how tax is spent when he did not pay a cent himself.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=cdk007
More evolution vids.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=johnplex
For a fun/amusing collection of -crap- that is spewed out by religious fundamentalists over the pond, including a creationist who thinks the earth expanded like a balloon and dinosaur means 'exploding lizard'. He and a friend actually posed as christian journalists and got an 'interview' from that very guy. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN4AL-AOyfs
I love the balls on the woman..... I don't care how that sounds. :P

Side note I noticed, the atheist vid by zakiechan has 1 honour, it used to have a deal more, but they magically disappeared, it used to have none, but it got a new one since that time.

pH

John Safran vs the Mormons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRmC0DaE6rE
(keep watching it's not all just him sitting there talking)

Schuhart

Sam Harris video posted on the Christianity forum, for some reason. He’s a much better communicator than Dawkins, and has a more apt message.

He concludes that spiritual and ethical truths have to transcend culture. I’d take that to mean we have to have some kind of dialogue that addresses those issues. Atheism in the sense of ‘there’s no God’ is only the starting point. Understanding theism and addressing how that portion of human life is dealt with in the secular world seems to me to be a next step. Yes, that means that fundamentalist theists then have a target if the end product is a defined secular agenda that can be a focus of opposition.

Yes, it also raises the prospect of disagreement among secularists over, say, stem cell research. But, on the one hand, such things seem inevitable. On the other, so long as a core value is the expectation that human understanding is evolving and truth is therefore not absolute, we should surely be able to do this without some of us feeling an urge to crash planes into office blocks.

radiospan

There's a whole list of Richard Dawkins video and audio here:
http://www.reitstoen.com/dawkins.php

Dave!

Didn't realise David Attenborough was an atheist!

5 minute clip from an interview....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Y-5CR-_hw

Zombrex

DaveMcG wrote: »

Didn't realise David Attenborough was an atheist!

5 minute clip from an interview....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Y-5CR-_hw

He makes an interesting point, if the Earth and all life on it were produced by a loving God for humanity why did he create hundreds of thousands of species of animal and plants that kill humans?

"I can't believe God created parasites to torture small children"
Sir David Attenborough

condra

"I can't believe God created parasites to torture small children"
Sir David Attenborough

Cool quote. Thanks for all the vids guys.