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Bad News 4 Dub Fans

  • 15-08-2006 2:57pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭


    Dublin ticket allocation nightmare
    >
    > Dublin fans are set for the mother and father of ticket scrambles
    > ahead of the All-Ireland SFC semi-final in Croke Park on August 27.
    >
    > The Dublin County Board's allocation will be 20,000 which means that
    > clubs allocation will be dramatically cut from what they received for
    > the quarter-final and Leinster semi-final and quarter-final. Also
    > there will be NO public sale of tickets from Parnell Park or Croke
    > Park.
    >
    > Dublin have had over 60,000 fans at each of their last three games -
    > the attendances at those games were 79,190 (v Westmeath, All-Ireland
    > quarter-final), 67,970 v (Offaly, Leinster final), 81,754 (v Laois,
    > Leinster semi-final).
    >
    > The Dublin match is now been confirmed as part of a triple header on
    > Sunday, August 27.
    >
    > Sunday, August 20th
    > ESB All Ireland Minor Football Championship Semi-Final 12.30pm Kerry v
    > Donegal
    >
    > Bank of Ireland Football Championship Quarter Final 2.00pm Laois v
    > Mayo
    >
    > Bank of Ireland Football Championship Semi-Final 4.00pm Kerry v Cork
    >
    > Sunday, August 27th
    > ESB All Ireland Minor Football Championship Semi-Final 12.30pm
    > Roscommon v Meath
    >
    > Tommy Murphy Cup Final
    > 2.00pm Louth v Leitrim
    >
    > Bank of Ireland Football Championship Semi-Final 4.00pm Dublin v
    > Mayo/Laois


    ITS A DISGRACE :mad:


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Maybe the rest might stay in the pub so.... Give me a break, so now the Gaa should meander to the demands of Dublin? Go away will ya.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭vibez


    can u not read no "The Dublin County Board's allocation will be 20,000"

    they usuallly get 60k there is going to be 40K very loyal hardcore fans that will have to do without.


    gob****e


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭DUB


    So long as club members get sorted and parnell pass holders then I'm afraid thems the breaks. Not everyone who wants to go to these matches will be able to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    As ever, at the business end of the season, the ticket allocations for the counties goes down.

    The GAA will always know that these fixtures will be full houses or as near as possible, so you will not get the open sale free-for-all on ticketmaster for these matches.

    20,000 is a small number, but at least genuine fans, as members through clubs will get their hands on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭vibez


    but this is my point

    20K tix is not enough for the demand of even the clubs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Dublin this Dublin that moan moan moan, all it will mean is that so called "hard core" fans can stay in the pub to their hearts content... big loss about it..... my heart bleeds :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Right_Side


    Shocking business decision.

    Dublin, with the biggest support, should always have a stand alone fixture particularly this late in the competition.

    Amateurs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Loadedscream


    for those a**ho*es saying that at least the real fans will get them, this is from the St Vincents website:

    All Ireland SemiFinal Ticket Update 140806 1030pm
    Monday, 14 August 2006
    August 27th
    The number of requests already received for tickets greatly exceeds the number allocated to the club by Dublin County Board. We will distribute the tickets in the fairest way possible. Please ensure you name is on Frank`s list in the bar.
    Even if your name is on the list, there is no guarantee that you will receive tickets. There will be a lot of members disappointed, as we physically don`t have the quantity of tickets we need to satisfy everyone`s requests. I would suggest that you try all other routes possible for your tickets. If you are successful locating tickets elsewhere, please let us know & we can pass on details of the option to other members.
    C.K.


    Not even the clubs will be anywhere near satisfied with an allocation of 20,000


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    stepbar wrote:
    Dublin this Dublin that moan moan moan, all it will mean is that so called "hard core" fans can stay in the pub to their hearts content... big loss about it..... my heart bleeds :rolleyes:
    Haha, another tosser whos only comments on this board is to take digs at Dublin. The jelousy monster is growing! Pub this, Pub that, GET OVER IT! So the game was delayed by 15 mins, boo bloody whoo. I would bet it didnt impact you in any way. Were you at Croker that day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Hey hold on here one minute there are five other teams involved on the day FIVE OTHER TEAMS !!!!!!!!!!!! Right....... they are entitled to their fair share of tickets AND their day out in Croke Park. Since when was Croke Park, Dublin's home ground ?????? They have no more entitlement to it than anyone else.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    stepbar wrote:
    so now the Gaa should meander to the demands of Dublin?
    Well, yes they should for something like this. Would Dublin V Laois/Mayo sell out the ground as the only game? (The answer is yes in case you dont know) And are Dublin the main source of gate reciepts for the GAA? (again, yes) So why wouldnt they make it a stand alone game? If your going to take dark aged childish stabs at a team, at least make some sense and ensure your points are even slightly valid!
    stepbar wrote:
    Go away will ya....
    Funny, i was thinking the same..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    stepbar wrote:
    Hey hold on here one minute there are five other teams involved on the day FIVE OTHER TEAMS !!!!!!!!!!!! Right....... they are entitled to their fair share of tickets AND their day out in Croke Park. Since when was Croke Park, Dublin's home ground ?????? They have no more entitlement to it than anyone else.
    Ok, have you read what people are saying??? FOUR OF THE FIVE OTHER TEAMS SHOULD BE PLAYING A DIFFERENT DAY!!!!! They will suffer ticket shortages also, not to the same degree but they will still be in demand. Nobody is saying Dubs should get their tickets, of course im sure you just want to believe they were saying that to have your stab tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Give me one good reason why? (apart from the "we have got the biggest support" argument which IMO is total balls)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    stepbar wrote:
    Give me one good reason why? (apart from the "we have got the biggest support" argument which IMO is total balls)

    do the GAA like money? They could have 2 sold out days in Croker but instead chose to have one. Does that make sense? So the reason you want is money. If Shelbourne are playing Barcelona in the Champions League Final (keep with it, its just an example, not a prediction) and Uefa decided to hold the Uefa Cup Final on the same day, would that make sense and would Barca have a reason to complain? More to the point, why would you when you could double your profit by having it on different days??

    Why is the bigger fanbase balls? Why not hold the semis in some tiny stadium in the middle of nowhere then and have a triple header? Because the obvious thing is to play it in a stadium you can fill and they could sell Croker out twice over.

    Finally, give me one good reason not to have the Dublin V Mayo/Laois game on a seperate day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    stepbar Ithink you miss the point of simple logic. Nalced_irl points are valid. When you can sell out 2 event by splitting them up why put them together. We all know the Dubs would fill out Croker on their own so why don't the GAA use their logic and play that game on its own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    How do we know the logics behind the decision? Simple fact is WE dont.... We could have a stab and guess that its because of the residents association, who knows? People are quick to come on here moaning about ticket allocations etc If some people were so concerned they would put their money where there mouth is and go off and buy a pass for parnell park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,543 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    More culchies get to see the Dub's rule Croaker again, nothing wrong with that imho ;):) Sam's coming home this year!!
    C'MON the Dubs!!






    Two seperate days surely would have made more sense in terms of spectacle (or cash) tv and Croaker audiences combined ? Apologies to our friends from outside the pale that take offense to the term culchie..am sure you've other names for us jackeens at matches :p

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    stepbar wrote:
    How do we know the logics behind the decision? Simple fact is WE dont.... We could have a stab and guess that its because of the residents association, who knows? People are quick to come on here moaning about ticket allocations etc If some people were so concerned they would put their money where there mouth is and go off and buy a pass for parnell park.

    Whats your point other than taking a stab you dont seem to offer anything contructive at all in your arguments other than the residents bit which could be true. And on the last point how do you know who does and doesnt go to parnell regularly to watch the dubs in the league games.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    stepbar wrote:
    If some people were so concerned they would put their money where there mouth is and go off and buy a pass for parnell park.
    How do you know they havent? Maybe they need tickets to bring their kids or whatever? Maybe they cant afford the pass to Parnell?
    stepbar wrote:
    People are quick to come on here moaning about ticket allocations etc
    And some are quicker to take a shot at them. However, back to the original point. At Croker this week, there were at least 50,000 Dubs fans at a guess that were there well before the throw in. Out of those 50,000, a max of 20,000 will get tickets without having to search like a needle in the haystack. So i dont think your point about the pub, which you and others seem to be so effected by is valid in the slightest and is just a narrow minded "follow the crowd" stab.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    stepbar wrote:
    How do we know the logics behind the decision? Simple fact is WE dont.... We could have a stab and guess that its because of the residents association, who knows? People are quick to come on here moaning about ticket allocations etc If some people were so concerned they would put their money where there mouth is and go off and buy a pass for parnell park.

    Stepbar you are talking utter crap. The GAA are happy enough top give Dublin stand alone fixtures in the earlier rounds when they know we will fill Croke Park in each game. Why should they not satisfy the demand in the later rounds. What an ignorant man you are. Surely you do not doubt the Dublin fans would fill Croke Park. If you wanted to make a constructive arguement, which you have not, you could point out that the other two games would not come close to filling Croke Park on there own, but as the GAA were happy to take the full houses earlier I think they should repay in kind now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    Waylander wrote:
    you could point out that the other two games would not come close to filling Croke Park on there own,
    lol, i did think of that after i posted but if he wasnt gonna spot it i wasnt gonna bother saying anything ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


    This problem is caused by the Mayo/Laois replay and at a deeper level by the Ryder Cup. Because of the Mayo/Laois draw the replay is now played before the Cork/Kerry semi. This forces the GAA to move the Roscommon minor semi onto the same day as the Dublin semi which means there are ~7,000 less tickets to go to the senior game. The GAA have to put the minor game on this day because of the week the GAA have pushed back the finals due to the Ryder cup.
    The idea of playing the minor and Tommy Murphy in Croke Park on a different doesn't work logistically or financially as these games wouldn't fill Croker enough. Yet these counties deserve their day in the sun and I wouldn't take it away from them.
    Anyway for the All-Ireland Finals in hurling and football both sets of senior county boards only get 20,000 tickets for the clubs. This is the way it always is, always was and probably always will be. You have to be connected to get the tickets, you can't just get the tickets from ticketmaster or outside Quinns. This is probably good for the real supporter as because s/he travels the country after his team s/he will have connections around the country with other GAA folk who can get tickets.
    If your a real supporter i'm suprised your suprised by this.

    PS: Spare a thought for Mayo/Laois fans who got bumped to the hurling semi underticket with fewer tickets that are more expensive. They draw and get stuck in with the Cork/Kerry semi with again less tickets that are expensive. Then whoever wins goes in to a semi with Dublin where they have to pay for another high price ticket in another packed stadium. Add onto this the cost of travel which most Dubs don't have and the early starts to get to the matchs. Maybe ye Dubs don't have it too bad after all if ye think about it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    kevmy wrote:
    This problem is caused by the Mayo/Laois replay and at a deeper level by the Ryder Cup. Because of the Mayo/Laois draw the replay is now played before the Cork/Kerry semi. This forces the GAA to move the Roscommon minor semi onto the same day as the Dublin semi which means there are ~7,000 less tickets to go to the senior game. The GAA have to put the minor game on this day because of the week the GAA have pushed back the finals due to the Ryder cup.
    The idea of playing the minor and Tommy Murphy in Croke Park on a different doesn't work logistically or financially as these games wouldn't fill Croker enough. Yet these counties deserve their day in the sun and I wouldn't take it away from them.
    Anyway for the All-Ireland Finals in hurling and football both sets of senior county boards only get 20,000 tickets for the clubs. This is the way it always is, always was and probably always will be. You have to be connected to get the tickets, you can't just get the tickets from ticketmaster or outside Quinns. This is probably good for the real supporter as because s/he travels the country after his team s/he will have connections around the country with other GAA folk who can get tickets.
    If your a real supporter i'm suprised your suprised by this.

    PS: Spare a thought for Mayo/Laois fans who got bumped to the hurling semi underticket with fewer tickets that are more expensive. They draw and get stuck in with the Cork/Kerry semi with again less tickets that are expensive. Then whoever wins goes in to a semi with Dublin where they have to pay for another high price ticket in another packed stadium. Add onto this the cost of travel which most Dubs don't have and the early starts to get to the matchs. Maybe ye Dubs don't have it too bad after all if ye think about it!

    Fair play Kev, they are all valid points, and they are also put in a reasonable manner, rather then a nonsensical whinge by an immature idiot. I agree these counties do indeed deserve their day out and would not begrudge them it. I also think that the GAA are quick enough to give Dublin a day on their own when they want to maximise revenue, maybe they should try to come up with something rather then biting the hand that feeds them by the president basically announcing tough sh ite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    I would love to travel a bit more for championship matches altho i suppose if i had to do it for almost every game my attitude to that may change ;) There is too much "Real Supporter" talk here. You dont need to go to every game and have contacts around the country to be a real supporter. Once you go out to matches when you can, i would consider that enough. The only people i would not consider real supporters are those that wouldnt watch a league game on tv (or for GAA supporter a game their county arent playing in) or go to one and only turn up for finals ect and go mostly for the day out. Apart from that your points are good and the Ryder Cup does make it messy i suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Because Dublin = The GAA :rolleyes: The GAA owe Dublin NOTHING. Of course Dublin have the largest support why wouldnt they when Croke Park is on the door step. Havent far to travel :rolleyes: I wonder would some put in the same enthuasiam down at your local Gaa club, So, how many of ye are involved in your local GAA club? Because from my experience the only ones who give out are the ones who contribute nothing in the first place.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    stepbar wrote:
    So, how many of ye are involved in your local GAA club?
    I am, and im sure most are. You seem hellbent on trying to prove that Dubs arent "Real Supporters" and prefer to sit in pubs than go to games. Were you bullied by a Dub in school or something? Out of interest, what county are you from exactly? (note, im not asking to take stabs at it. Some of us are more mature than that)
    stepbar wrote:
    Because from my experience the only ones who give out are the ones who contribute nothing in the first place.....
    Ok, i really dont know where you pulled that from. You think the people who disagree with you here dont contribute to their club? Talk about a random, idiotic and completely out of the clouds comment! Have you met anyone from this forum before? Your points are getting worse as this goes on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Calm down stepbar...breath remember?

    Soild points kevmy, I was searching for the remaining fixtures list but completely forgot about the Ryder Cup and what effect if was going to have.

    One other thing, it's easier to give the Dubs a day to themselves in the early rounds when fixtures and dates aren't at the same premium as mid august for eg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭kevmy


    They really have no other choice though. There is probably a little over 40,000 going to the fans of both senior teams and it's only fair that the Mayo/Laois fans get the same ammount as the Dubs. Their is easily 20,000 fans in both of these counties looking for semi tickets.
    Approx 10,000 going to the corporate and ten year tickets holders.
    Approx 12,000 going to the minor and tommy murphy fans.
    Thats somewhere in the region of 65,000. The other 15,000 tickets go to players families, minor teams (who usually sit in the lower Hogan by the pitch and watch the senior game), dignitaries and media. Some go overseas for the semi i think but not to the same extent as the final.
    If the GAA had the extra weekend they lost due to Ryder Cup they put the two minor games on the same day as they were planning to do (to pander to the Dubs or pay them back for filling the stadium, depends how ya look on it :rolleyes: ) They could also play the Tommy Murphy final on the same day as the replayed game to free up a few more tickets.
    As regards the comments by Nicky Brennan its true if a little short(he's probably still annoyedover the delayed of the last match) because every club in the country gets two tickets for the final as well as the clubs overseas. It's tradition and always leads to a big ticket scramble on the dat of the final. It's just the way the GAA do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Waylander wrote:
    Stepbar you are talking utter sh ite. What a moron. The GAA are happy enough top give Dublin stand alone fixtures in the earlier rounds when they know we will fill Croke Park in each game. Why should they not satisfy the demand in the later rounds. What an ignorant man you are. Surely you do not doubt the Dublin fans would fill Croke Park. If you wanted to make a constructive arguement, which you have not, you could point out that the other two games would not come close to filling Croke Park on there own, but as the GAA were happy to take the full houses earlier I think they should repay in kind now.

    Aren't you the same person who gave out to me for labelling someone's point "stupid"? Yet in two posts you have called someone a moron and an immature idiot.

    The word hypocrite comes to mind. Don't preach what you're not willing to practice yourself.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    PS: Spare a thought for Mayo/Laois fans who got bumped to the hurling semi underticket with fewer tickets that are more expensive. They draw and get stuck in with the Cork/Kerry semi with again less tickets that are expensive. Then whoever wins goes in to a semi with Dublin where they have to pay for another high price ticket in another packed stadium. Add onto this the cost of travel which most Dubs don't have and the early starts to get to the matchs. Maybe ye Dubs don't have it too bad after all if ye think about it!

    Good point


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 718 ✭✭✭thirdmantackle


    Sam's coming home this year!!

    back to Kerry again so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭monosharp


    vibez wrote:
    can u not read no "The Dublin County Board's allocation will be 20,000"

    they usuallly get 60k there is going to be 40K very loyal hardcore fans that will have to do without.
    gob****e

    40K very loyal hardcore fans <-- :D:D:D
    loy·al
    adj.
    1. Steadfast in allegiance to one's homeland, government, or sovereign.
    2. Faithful to a person, ideal, custom, cause, or duty.
    hard-core
    adj.

    1. Intensely loyal; die-hard: a hard-core secessionist; a hard-core golfer.
    2. Stubbornly resistant to improvement or change: hard-core poverty.

    Would these be the same 40k hardcore fans that travelled to watch the mighty Dublin in the League ? Or would this be the same 40K hardcore fans who attended the first championship match of the year ?

    For an All-Ireland semi-final a lot of counties in Ireland with a tiny percentage of the Dublin population could bring 60K. My own county would be deserted if we got within an asses roar of an All-Ireland.

    You should try comparing the Dubs first match of the championship with support small weaker teams get. I might only get the league and 2 games a year in the championship so i damn well make it to both and a hell of a lot of other people in other counties do the same.

    Relatively speaking Dublin is the worst supported county in Ireland when you take its population into account. I enjoy speaking to the real Dublin fans, on a cold wet miserable spring day. I DON'T enjoy talking to the crowd of tossers who arrive for the latter stages of the championship with their cans of dogs bollox cider who have never ventured outside the pale to follow their beloved "dubs" and have little to no clue what the actual rules of the game are or how Dublin got on in the league or what format the championship is in. I met a crowd of jackeen eejits wearing arnotts jerseys 4-5 years ago who thought the championship was ran on a champions league format and they were into the "latter" groups. I told them it was a knock out competition (and forgot to mention the backdoor) and i was then informed that i was talking through my unmentionables because they had being beaten already (presumably in the provincial) and were still in it.

    The real Dublin fans will get their tickets, i just don't know whos going to get the other 15,000 tickets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    monosharp wrote:
    40K very loyal hardcore fans <-- :D:D:D





    Would these be the same 40k hardcore fans that travelled to watch the mighty Dublin in the League ? Or would this be the same 40K hardcore fans who attended the first championship match of the year ?

    For an All-Ireland semi-final most counties in Ireland with a tiny percentage of the Dublin population could bring 60K.

    Relatively speaking Dublin is the worst supported county in Ireland when you take its population into account. I enjoy speaking to the real Dublin fans, on a cold wet miserable spring day. I DON'T enjoy talking to the crowd of tossers who arrive for the latter stages of the championship with their cans of dogs bollox cider who have never ventured outside the pale to follow their beloved "dubs" and have little to no clue what the actual rules of the game are or how Dublin got on in the league or what format the championship is in. I met a crowd of jackeen eejits wearing arnotts jerseys 4-5 years ago who thought the championship was ran on a champions league format and they were into the "latter" groups. I told them it was a knock out competition (and forgot to mention the backdoor) and i was then informed that i was talking through my unmentionables because they had being beaten already (presumably in the provincial) and were still in it.

    The real Dublin fans will get their tickets, i just don't know whos going to get the other 15,000 tickets.

    There is not a county in the country that has the same attendance at league matches as at championship matches. Holding this against Dublin fans only is a bit narrow minded. Lemlin Blackbelt was trying to make points he believed, Stepbar has yet to make a valid relevant point. He is an immature moron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    monosharp wrote:
    Or would this be the same 40K hardcore fans who attended the first championship match of the year ?

    If I remember correctly, from being there, Dublin took 100% of their allocation for this match and sold 100% of that allocation. It was impossible to fit anymore Dublin fans in Flancare Park than the few thousand that took up the tickets. The match was a sell out.

    Maybe you can clarify what point you are trying to make.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭DUB


    40K hardcore fans is way off alright but you've gone to the other extreme. The way you're going on you'd think there were no Dubs at the Longford match.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭monosharp


    Waylander wrote:
    There is not a county in the country that has the same attendance at league matches as at championship matches. Holding this against Dublin fans only is a bit narrow minded. Lemlin Blackbelt was trying to make points he believed, Stepbar has yet to make a valid relevant point. He is an immature moron.

    I didn't say other counties have the same attendance at league and championship. I'm quite aware that league attendances are generally **** all-round.

    I'm replying to the "loyal hardcore fans" statement. Dublin has its loyal hardcore fans, but to even laughably suggest that there are 40K of them is beyond words.

    "loyal hardcore" means attending matches that possibly involve taking a little more then a 30 minute walk to get to. It means venturing outside the pale and god forbid into other provinces. i.e >Attend league games.

    "fans" to me means people who mightn't be arsed to go to matches during the league but would follow it on radio/tv (where possible) or at least make an effort to know how their county got on in it. It means people that wouldn't miss a championship match if they can at all help it.

    Dublin does NOT have 40K of the above, i'd say 20K at the most.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    Yeah Mono, your points are fair enough mostly. There are allot of Dublin fans who do not know enough about the game. maybe that is part of the problem, particularly in this forum. Lets face people who log onto these fora to discuss their sports, nearly have to be true and loyal fans, I think the Dublin fans here are just getting sick and tired of being disrespected simply because they are Dublin fans. Tbh, I can understand the GAA's problems and why it is not really feasible to move the games around this time round, but I think that explanation would have been allot better then the one attributed to Nicky Brennan earlier in this thread, and again I think that is the reason allot of the Dubs have their backs up here. That, and posts like stepbars and Lemlin, which actually do not contribute any valid point to the discussion, they are just flaming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭monosharp


    Waylander wrote:
    Yeah Mono, your points are fair enough mostly. There are allot of Dublin fans who do not know enough about the game. maybe that is part of the problem, particularly in this forum. Lets face people who log onto these fora to discuss their sports, nearly have to be true and loyal fans, I think the Dublin fans here are just getting sick and tired of being disrespected simply because they are Dublin fans. Tbh, I can understand the GAA's problems and why it is not really feasible to move the games around this time round, but I think that explanation would have been allot better then the one attributed to Nicky Brennan earlier in this thread, and again I think that is the reason allot of the Dubs have their backs up here. That, and posts like stepbars and Lemlin, which actually do not contribute any valid point to the discussion, they are just flaming.

    Maybe i'm just not seeing what the problem is.

    There are 20,000 tickets allocated to Dublin. This should be more then enough for the real fans and the real fans should have the ability/resources to get their hands on them before the bandwagon wino's.

    Now i know theres always an element of people who maybe aren't exactly bandwagoners but do want to go see dublin once they are this far and i feel sorry for them.

    I have NO time for summertime fans at all. I went to extremely extensive lengths to get 4 tickets for a munster final a few years ago for friends (3 girls + 1 guy) of mine who begged for them. Now they have being to matches before in fairness so i thought they were genuinely interested. Tickets were like gold dust and i managed it.
    We all went on the piss in Thurles the night before, they were all kitted out in jerseys, hats etc. And what happened on Munster Final day ?

    1 of the girls brought back some lad and went off on the piss with him leaving me with a spare ticket.
    The other 2 girls were hungover and didn't want to go because of the noise (FFS ???) and after a before-the-match-pint the lad just wanted to go off on the piss and watch it in a pub so he ended up joining the first girl.

    Leaving me with 4 spare tickets, 2 of which i managed to sell for face value outside semple to people without any.

    These people aren't interested in the match, they were interested in the occassion. And thats how counties fill Croker on all-ireland day and how Dublin fill Croker regularly, 40K tosser + maybe 20K real fans.

    What is the problem ? Less allocation means less summertime bandwagon tosspots are going to be taking up space/time/air from everyone else.

    The only problem with the current plans for the match is that Croke Park could make more money by giving Dublin their own day. Everything else about it is a good thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    The problem is that the real fans will not get all these tickets. Most Dublin clubs will now be in a situation where they have to raffle tickets, as they will not get enough tickets to meet demand. Allot of the tickets will somehow end up in the hands of people who have not been to matches to date, or who are just going for the experience. I do not know how they will get there hands on them but they will. If there was some kind of priority system involved then what you say would be accurate, but lets face it, when the less dedicated fans outnumber the hardcore fans by 2:1, they are probably going to get more tickets then the hardcore fans. Maybe this is a problem that should be addressed by the Dublin County board, on some kind of ticket stub basis, but as tickets are distributed through Clubs it would be quite difficult to exercise something like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    monosharp wrote:
    Maybe i'm just not seeing what the problem is.

    There are 20,000 tickets allocated to Dublin. This should be more then enough for the real fans and the real fans should have the ability/resources to get their hands on them before the bandwagon wino's.
    So the other 40,000 are bandwagon winos?

    What total and utter garbage.

    We should put you in charge in an effort to keep interest in GAA down to a minimum:

    NO NEW SUPPORTERS PLEASE. WE DON'T WANT YOU. YOU'RE A TOSSPOT.

    Brilliant.

    BTW, Dublin clubs are not getting enough tickets to satisfy demands of club members.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭monosharp


    Waylander wrote:
    The problem is that the real fans will not get all these tickets. Most Dublin clubs will now be in a situation where they have to raffle tickets, as they will not get enough tickets to meet demand. Allot of the tickets will somehow end up in the hands of people who have not been to matches to date, or who are just going for the experience. I do not know how they will get there hands on them but they will. If there was some kind of priority system involved then what you say would be accurate, but lets face it, when the less dedicated fans outnumber the hardcore fans by 2:1, they are probably going to get more tickets then the hardcore fans. Maybe this is a problem that should be addressed by the Dublin County board, on some kind of ticket stub basis, but as tickets are distributed through Clubs it would be quite difficult to exercise something like this.

    Your talking like this is entirely a Dublin problem and not taking into account the other teams there on the day. I'd safely say that if Mayo get through they will be facing a similiar if not quite as large problem.

    Look at the All-Ireland the past few years, look at the number of Galway & Cork 'supporters' outside Croker without tickets for the hurling final last year. Look at the amount of cork 'supporters' without tickets for last years Munster final.

    I realise that some genuine fans are going to miss out and i already stated i felt sorry for them but what right does Dublin have over any other county to demand more tickets/seperate day then any other county has ?

    We're talking about 2 seperate problems here. The OP thought it a problem that a mix of 40K bandwagon supporters and real fans weren't going to be able to attend. I think the problem is that any bandwagoners get tickets over any real fans at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭monosharp


    So the other 40,000 are bandwagon winos?

    What total and utter garbage.

    Vast majority of them are bandwagon supporters yes.
    BTW, Dublin clubs are not getting enough tickets to satisfy demands of club members.

    That is a shame, and yet i'm sure we'll see plenty of Paddy Jackeens on the hill sipping his can of cheap cider while trying to figure out why the ref isn't blowing for handball but at the same time, not be that bothered about the match at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    monosharp wrote:
    Your talking like this is entirely a Dublin problem and not taking into account the other teams there on the day. I'd safely say that if Mayo get through they will be facing a similiar if not quite as large problem.

    Look at the All-Ireland the past few years, look at the number of Galway & Cork 'supporters' outside Croker without tickets for the hurling final last year. Look at the amount of cork 'supporters' without tickets for last years Munster final.

    I realise that some genuine fans are going to miss out and i already stated i felt sorry for them but what right does Dublin have over any other county to demand more tickets/seperate day then any other county has ?

    We're talking about 2 seperate problems here. The OP thought it a problem that a mix of 40K bandwagon supporters and real fans weren't going to be able to attend. I think the problem is that any bandwagoners get tickets over any real fans at all.

    I think Dublin should be be treated a little differently because the GAA are happy enough to let Dublin play on their own when it suits them. But later in the competition, when it is not so feasible, the President goes on record saying words that pretty much amount to Tough Sh ite. I think the top three sporting events attendance wise in Europe so far this summer have been Dublin matches, bearing in mind the World Cup was held in Germany that is an extraordinary fact. The GAA has no problem creaming off Dublin fans, treating them with contempt now is not wise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭DUB


    monosharp wrote:

    I have NO time for summertime fans at all. I went to extremely extensive lengths to get 4 tickets for a munster final a few years ago for friends (3 girls + 1 guy) of mine who begged for them. Now they have being to matches before in fairness so i thought they were genuinely interested. Tickets were like gold dust and i managed it.
    We all went on the piss in Thurles the night before, they were all kitted out in jerseys, hats etc. And what happened on Munster Final day ?

    1 of the girls brought back some lad and went off on the piss with him leaving me with a spare ticket.
    The other 2 girls were hungover and didn't want to go because of the noise (FFS ???) and after a before-the-match-pint the lad just wanted to go off on the piss and watch it in a pub so he ended up joining the first girl.

    Leaving me with 4 spare tickets, 2 of which i managed to sell for face value outside semple to people without any.

    GRRRRRRRRR ... thats so feckin annoying .....!!!!:mad: :mad: :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    DUB wrote:
    GRRRRRRRRR ... thats so feckin annoying .....!!!!:mad: :mad: :confused:
    That is fairly horribly alright. Im not gonna talk any more on this topic as yet again it will eventually get locked. That will make it the 3rd or 4th Dublin thread in about 2 weeks that gets locked due to people making silly remarks just to try and annoy us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Stepbar you are talking utter sh ite. What a moron. ...
    ...Lemlin Blackbelt was trying to make points he believed, Stepbar has yet to make a valid relevant point. He is an immature moron.

    Waylander banned for a week for the above personal abuse.

    Attack the post not the poster people please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    My experience is that at the end of the day a so called ‘real’ fan will get the ticket to the game they want to get to.
    Once your team gets to another stage in the championship a fan with any sense will be sending out ‘feelers’ to ascertain the availability of tickets, talking to their sources, friends, relatives in other counties etc.

    My team is 2 wins away from a place in the All – Ireland but I already have my request in for the semi and have started asking people about the final already.
    If I don’t get one before the Friday of the final I will prepare for lots of leg work around Dublin GAA pubs on the Saturday and an early start on Sunday morning.
    If you really want to go you will put in the effort to get a ticket.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭DUB


    Well with the Parnell Park pass scheme no Dublin fan living in Dublin should miss out on tickets, if you're a big GAA fan the pass is great value for money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    So the other 40,000 are bandwagon winos?

    What total and utter garbage.

    We should put you in charge in an effort to keep interest in GAA down to a minimum:

    NO NEW SUPPORTERS PLEASE. WE DON'T WANT YOU. YOU'RE A TOSSPOT.

    Brilliant.

    BTW, Dublin clubs are not getting enough tickets to satisfy demands of club members.

    That's the problem right there. Plenty of club members can't get tickets yet I guarantee you each and every one of us knows a few people going to Croker on Sunday or whenever that have never been to a game all year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭DUB


    i don't know anyone that fits that bracket to be honest.

    I do know a guy who has been to three sports events in his life, the all ireland hurling final twice and the erc rugby final in cardif. well connected bloke. said recently he wants to go and see man united play in their stadium some day in twickenham ...


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