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Are you a lapknob?

  • 09-08-2006 8:51pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭


    So as I flick through my endless amounts for 500 euro notes I was thinking to myself ''what could I buy that could possibly help me in college?'' Laptop? Hmmmm....

    Then I was thinking to myself is laptop ownership in college essential or is it just a fad? I noticed last year in UCD there were laptops fucking everywhere I went, the year before if you owned one your were proably the son or daughter of some oil tycoon! Then the horrific flashbacks of BOPs, yellow wristbands, Jansport backpacks in my first year arrived and that said to me owning a laptop was fad for knobs to show off... aka ''the lapkobs''

    I thought to myself would be owning a laptop be essential or beneficial to me? Making good notes at lectures is one but then I type like shite so that's irrelevant, the only other good reason I can think of is avoiding queuing up for a PC. So why do so many people own laptops? The only students who I can think of who really need one are Comp students.... or students from the country but for the rest of ye... I think you're showing off!

    Is there anyone here who owns a laptop that can prove me wrong and explain why the laptop phenomenon is not a fad and say why I should own one?

    Thanks :)

    Are you a lapknob? 42 votes

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    No... pen and paper FTW!!1!
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭techguy


    I dont think it's a fad.. I think it's really handy to have a laptop in college. I bought one last summer with my hard earned summer wages. I thaught I should buy one big thing and save the rest also I am doing electronic engineering and I use computers a lot anyway so.... Most colleges have wi-fi these days so it's really easy to download notes etc from your lecturers. It just seems like a fad because they are becoming really popular, quickly.. Partly because the price of laptops has come down seriously in the last few years... Don't get me wrong, nobody has to have a laptop to do well in college.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭snickerpuss


    I just got a laptop, mostly for home rather than college, i earned money over the summer so i figured i may as well.

    It'll be nice to be able to type up my essays in college instead of doing them out longhand and then going home and typing them up. Otherwise i didn't have one before and i did just fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭generalmiaow


    one thing I didn't see last year at all was something I saw all the time in 03/04: People typing notes in class. Maybe this is normal in Business or whatever but in arts it was like wearing a pink "gob****e" beanie cap. Now everyone has a laptop, but no one brings them to lectures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Had them all through college but wouldn't bring one to lecture and tended to just use them at home unless I had essays to finish. Laptops are handy to have, particularly when you're in a rush to get an essay typed and cant get a PC in college.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭InFront


    Don't listen to him Ivan <hugs laptop> You're loved.

    Personally I found a laptop quite important in college, just for taking home lecture materials (found it easier to learn from power point slideshows for some reason). You dont have to worry about printing off lecture slides and losing them, or even queues for the computer lab.

    Besides, how boring would lecture halls be without online chatting with mates:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭Pythia


    I have a laptop, it's mandatory for my course. But I mainly use it for surfing the net. We're all big into the net in my house so it's needed so there's no fighting.
    We never really write essays or anything so it's not that useful for college. I'm sure it'd be much more handy if you did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭DadaKopf


    I'm through with UCD, so it's interesting to look at this in retrospect. I rarely saw anyone with a laptop around 1998-2001. I never had one, scoffed (with jealousy probably) at those who did, and got on with my trusty pen and paper. To be honest, I don't think I lost out at all. Computers can't beat pen and paper for scribbling and planning an essay at the last minute, books and journals rock, and with wireless everywhere, it's not like anyone uses those laptops for anything other than flirting on bebo.

    Then I returned to UCD for my Masters. Because my life revolved around the library and writing paper after paper, thesis, the lot, I needed a computer bad, but always started on pen and paper (the best way by far for working through ideas before writing). I was lucky enough to be ably to use the posh computer area in the library.

    Nowadays, I regularly go into UCD for work to do research in the development studies library. I still don't own a laptop but am planning on getting one because if you're an outsider in UCD, and need to use the library to work, forget about getting hold of a computer.

    I don't think the laptop thing's gonna go away. The price of laptops are plummeting so most can afford them, and more and more courses are demanding them as standard kit - think commerce and medicine. So yeah, first only 'lapknobs' have them, then everyone has them.

    I'm sure everyone said the same things about books when they were invented.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    It's far from essential, but I find it quite handy because;

    (a) I can take better notes with it. I type faster than I write, and my hand doesn't get sore from typing. I can also delete things and put in new things, without winding up having scribbles all over the page! And also, less paper = better, because it = less scrumpled up balls at the end of my bag! It's also easier to file things, because I can chuck everything into *electronic* folders, rather than having a bit steel box full of folders (as I have now)

    (b) The internet! It's great not having to wait for a computer like the rest of you plebs! :D It's less time wasted really, especially if I'm doing something important (yeh... *snigger*). It's also handy if I'm in a lecture and the lecturer says somethin that I don't understand, I can just hop onto Google, or wikipedia, and update myself! Or else go onto Blackboard. There is however the constant distraction of having access to boards during lectures...:(

    (c) Programming! Cos I do computer science, it's handy having access to a computer all the time. If I didn't, and I had a project or somethin, I'd always have to go to the labs, which is a load of d*ck. This way I can be in the library workin on a program.

    Now, since the summer started I don't think I've touched it twice! But during the college year, it proves very handy. I see it as an investment too, cos I mean, the way I have it now, it's perfect for me. I don't really wanna have games on it cos I don't wanna clog it up, so I can check emails, go on the internet, write essays, make programs, and other basic stuff. And I'd say in 5 years' time it'll still be workin fine (touch wood!)

    Buy a Mac, BTW ;)

    PS. I paid for mine by getting a loan off my brother (who had loadsa money and nothin to spend it on, the pr*ck), and I paid him back in 2 installments after about 3 months. I had no trouble paying thank god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    I know plenty of people who have laptops, and plenty who do not. Obviously I am of the latter category (I spent much of 1st and 2nd yr in the Daedalus tbh).

    Laptops are fúcking handy, but hardly essential. Besides, Grimes bought a laptop and spent most of his time last year playing Silent Hunter III in the Library or in lecture theatres. I hardly think that was a productive return, in purely academic terms (although SHIII is a deadly game, and he probably got hours of enjoyment on that score).

    Ya don't really need them. If you have essays to finish, there are other ways to go about finishing them (plus, if you've got a laptop I'd argue you'd be more likely to "put it off til later" than if you have to go to LG3 or something).

    Bottom-line is: I got a damn good degree sans laptop. There's no reason why you can't do the same. If you want a laptop for the heck of it, and you've got money to spend, well, that's a different argument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Stepherunie


    Okay I have one, tbh it was a present - wasn't planning on buying one until 4th year.

    I'm only going into third year now and having had it for 8 months now, yes it's been handy but not totally necessary for my course - In the two years I've been in college I've only had one essay to hand up and that was due the 30th of January so it wasn't a time that there was a huge demand for computers so it wasn't like I needed to have my own computer for it.

    We asked our head of school about the need for our own computers in all honesty and her opinion was that you could easily do without one until 4th year - in fourth year she felt you did need pretty good access to a computer and if you weren't from Dublin she basically said investing in a computer, however cheap was a great idea that she's recommend just to even make doing your thesis easier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭mloc


    Am about to buy one. Bought one in 1st year but never really used as a) it was far too heavy to carry around, my mistake and b) the first three years of my course didn't really warrant one (I'm doing science).

    However, entering 4th year which involves a hefty research project, I think it will really come in handy. I can type much faster than I can write so I guess for note taking it will be good too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭the evil lime


    Commerce, so it was compulsory. Tis useful though, as my writing is illegible, and I can type faster. On top of which, I would just have lost written notes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭Pet


    Why is that Commerce and Medicine need laptops?

    I don't think laptops are necessary, because the battery life tends to be **** anyway (4 hours or so), so unless you wanna lug your charger in too, you're gonna have a hard time getting much done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Zane wrote:
    Jansport backpacks in my first year arrived and that said to me owning a laptop was fad for knobs to show off

    I really dont like that kind of attitude. I took out a loan for 1500 last year and worked damn hard to pay it off. Right i took my laptop to most of my Theater Lectures and damn was it handy. I was able to type whatever the lecturer was saying word for word which made it great for study and for essays. It cut down on tons of paper and writing. I never once cued in the deadalus for a PC . Always access to Connect when I needed it. Was able to do my essays anywhere no problem often last minute and made life a hell of a lot handier.

    That said 2 weeks before the exams i dropped my laptop and lost all my notes and had to turn to many a person to give me theirs (thanks Zane btw ;) ) .

    SebtheBum wrote:
    Besides, Grimes bought a laptop and spent most of his time last year playing Silent Hunter III in the Library or in lecture theatres. I hardly think that was a productive return, in purely academic terms (although SHIII is a deadly game, and he probably got hours of enjoyment on that score).


    Silent Hunter 3 is a game which "quality" can not even begin to describe. I still did better than ok in all my exams so somthing must have gone in. As above I did use it for work and recreation. I just didnt say "man i just did some deadly study on my laptop in the library. Quality study, quality"



    Just because people work and save and buy a loptop dosnt mean they are showing off. One can get through college without a laptop but a laptop makes it a hell of alot easier and alot more fun.

    I guess I just believe in life's luxurys. I went out and worked for a car because I hate busses and I went out and worked for a laptop because I hate writing. I can get busses and I can write. I just prefer to work danmn hard in the short term and reap the benifits in the short and long term. With car and laptop bought ive worked nearly everyday all summer to afford a month in Thailand and college fees when I get back. Ill also continue to work 4 days a week while im in college through second year , no parental assistance for me im afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭elmyra


    I got a new laptop back in February or so. I've had a laptop since I was in 6th year in school (I was a spoilt child), and back then I genuinely didn't need it, I just used it to mess around and it kept me from doing any study for my leaving cert. Worse again was that when I came into 1st year I never even bothered to reg it with Comp Services and because it didn't have a wireless card it was useless for college.

    I finally got my act together this year and I have to say I find it immensely useful. The biggest plus I think is that I can do essays in the library. I tend to type essays straight off without ever doing a handwritten draft and it's far, far handier to do that in the library where the books are and whatnot....laptops ftw!

    Like Dave McG, I type faster than I write, and really really would like to do my lecture notes on my laptop. What normally happens though is that I write in lectures and type the notes up when I get home.....pretty much because it's so uncommon in an arts lecture that I don't want to be considered a Lapknob. The stigma is there and I'm silly enough to care what people think, but yeah, laptops are great for college.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    elmyra wrote:
    The stigma is there and I'm silly enough to care what people think, but yeah, laptops are great for college.


    Exactly in my Arch lectures I was the only person typing but It saved me tons of time. And as you said doing essays in the library with 20 books infront of you and not having to do a draft essay makes it so handy.


    it seems UCD is so full of various stigma and people afraid of being seen to be part of the 'wealthy parents ' brigade they are afraid to get a laptop . To them I say let them eat cake , grow up and get a job or hit YOUR wealthy parents for more cash :)

    *im not assuming you dont have jobs :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭singingstranger


    I'm a Quinn-head so I didn't have any choice, but - similarly to elmyra - I type far, far faster than I can write (why didn't they let us do the LC on laptops...) and I always find it far, far easier to type an essay rather than contemplate writing it. The problem especially for me is that I'm a sloppy-ish writer but also a neat freak, so doing an essay and then scribbling out a word would have been sheer torture for me.

    <3 the backspace button.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭irlrobins


    Laptops ftw!

    TBH, give it two years and laptops will be seen as an essential item for a student, whether required by the course or not. It will be like when mobiles came out, first it was the rich few, then pay as you go arrived and a few more people took the plunge. It was a big deal to have one and seen as a yuppie item. Year after that the banks were giving them away free and everyone had one. Now no one bats an eyelid.

    UCD is moving away from providing labs of computers to providing laptop hot swap areas. Which is a good thing in my opinion, as you can fit more laptop users into an area than desktops. Also since the user is more likely to look after their own laptop, you don't have to worry about a certain precentage of machines not working. And everyone likes to customise their own PC to make it easier for them to use, which is a plus for laptops.

    As regards cost, well prices are always falling and you can get a laptop that is suitable for college for 600e. Spread over the three or four years you're in college, that's nothing compared to other expenses. And you don't always have to buy brand new ones. A second hand laptop would be more than adequate for college use.

    If the laptop is a requirement for the course (i.e. comm) then ucd offers deals and options to pay over the three years. And every year they pay for laptops for a few students who they deem unable to afford a laptop. So its not as if discrimnation is happening.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Just to annoy everyone, I'm going to use the word "labtop" instead of "laptop" for this post.

    I'm in Quinners as well, so the old labtop was a must-have. I don't reckon I could get through too much of the year without my labtop at this stage.

    My labtop helps me organise pretty much everything (although I'm still not all that organised), and I type all of my lectures. I reckon it's just something you get used to and can't live without.

    One thing that annoys me (more than the word "labtop") is that the keyboard on a labtop is so different from normal keyboards. I like the labtop keyboards, but being so used to it makes it more difficult to use normal keyboards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭rain on


    I don't really do handwriting. even in school i wrote essays directly onto a computer. given the amount of writing i've had to do for my various courses, a laptop's pretty much essential. there are people in my class who've managed without one but they're of the school of thought that writes everything out by hand beforehand and then types it up. it just doesn't work that way for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Umaro


    I go to Quinn so the laptop was compulsory and I do find it handy that I can have it with me all the time and I don't have to queue for PCs. But you see people in Arts who are using their laptops primarily for Bebo (it would seem) and you do realise that they are becoming a fad now they are cheaper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Ive got one and while its far from essential I find it really handy.

    I download all my notes,past papers and timetables instead off printing them all off which I find a big nuisance and really expensive. Its really handy for downloading extra research and info for your course too......ha who am I kidding its great for going on to hot or not and boards.ie when your bored :) I also use it as my stereo for when I am away from college and to mix lots of toons for house partys.

    Zane,I do think you'll find it handy and I dont think you'll regret buying it but tis really up to yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭blondie83


    Didn't need a laptop for my undergrad (although it would have helped!) because the eng building in UCD is pretty well stocked with computers. The only year I might possibly have needed one would have been in final year for downloading programs to help with the FYP, but in final year all elec heads get their own PC in the project lab so there was no need.

    Now the masters is a different matter entirely; if I didnt have a laptop this year I'd have been completly lost. Part of it is because DCU is a laptop-oriented college, but mostly because I move around so much and need acces to a load of info no matter where i go. All the assignments we had to do (and there were a lot) required use of your own laptop, as well as a myriad of different download packages that I couldnt put on a college PC. I've literally been on it for at least 5 hours a day for the past year, and would say that its an essential tool for anyone doing a masters...no matter what its in. I'm on mine now actually cos I'm in UCD!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    I've had a laptop for the past year, and used it pretty much all of the time. Strangely though, I think that it definitely is possible to do comp. sci. and not have one. There are several in my course who don't have one, and they get on fine, although thats probably to do also with the fact that the CSI building is never full, in fact I don't think i've ever had to wait for a desktop. The only comp. sci. people who would need one are people who don't have a desktop in the house/flat they are in. We quite often have projects which you don't have time to finish during the day, and CSI closes at 6:30 for 1st-3rd years. The desktops in the daedulus don't actually have any of the software needed for a comp. sci. either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Im poorly organised, i loose everything. SO all my notes, slides etc on the laptop are a god send. Also with the ammount of work you've to hand in for commerce, a laptop is essential for research and typing.
    Thats why for us its compulsory. Niffty social tool too, ie MSN, BEBO and cant forget Boards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭m1ke


    During my undergrad years I rarely saw laptops around and of course was jealous etc... and thought people taking notes in lectures looked like knobs.

    I find them now almost completely essential for the work I do. More so for electronic journals. I've got about 1000 articles on my laptop. I've stopped printing them out to read, because it just takes too much time and I need to be able to take them home to work on them and put them into endnote as I read them.... this would be a real hassle if I had to use ucd computers and them go home and copy everything onto my hard disk. This isn't to mention all the endless other useful programs and email n stuff.

    I never thought they'd be essential in arts (although I think we're called human sciences now) but it's now a necessity. It allows you work at a much faster pace then otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Font22


    going into 4th year B&L and the laptop was compulsory. have to say i will never do without a laptop now! saves so much hassle. i type way way way quicker than i write, notes are organised, typing is legible etc. for these reasons i disagree with laptops being fads!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    Hmm some interesting points. General consensus seems to be that it's handy but not essential but the vast vast increase in the amount lapknobs last year can only indicate that it must be fad for alot of students. I'm standing by that because

    1) laptops may be cheaper than they were before but they're still **** expensive... if you want a pretty decent machine it's still gonna cost you about E1000 plus a carrier bag, disk key, software, insurance add another E100-E200.... that isn't easy money to piss away if you're a student not living off mumsie and dadsie
    2) no exaggeration, when you look around at the lapknobs in the library 4 out of 5 are arsing around on B*B*, showing their mates their porno vids or worse on Boards! ;) Laptop does not = academic productivity for alot of people!

    I'm still not convinced! No doubt it would be handy but the essentiality factor still isn't getting tightarse with my wallet moi splashing the cash yet. One of my Arts subjects is very IT orientated which could nearly force me buying a laptop but I could only see myself arsing myself around on the wireless which could hamper me. I think I said in my opening post the decreasing amount of computers on campus is worrying and I can see that forcing many students buying a laptop.

    May invest in some textbooks for the time being!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    May invest in some textbooks for the time being!

    Or get your parents to give you the money . You are an arts student afterall


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Jonny Arson


    Grimes wrote:
    Or get your parents to give you the money . You are an arts student afterall

    Funny thing is they'll probably try to give me the money to buy some textbooks and I'll tell them to piss off..... I know I'm weird! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Chakar


    1) laptops may be cheaper than they were before but they're still **** expensive... if you want a pretty decent machine it's still gonna cost you about E1000 plus a carrier bag, disk key, software, insurance add another E100-E200.... that isn't easy money to piss away if you're a student not living off mumsie and dadsie
    Have a look at Dell's deals for computers and laptops
    here and here's another link for laptops


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭dajaffa


    If u follow this lilnk http://www.ucd.ie/computing/staffit/itucd/studentlaptop/ you can get dells through the student laptop programme which are a fair bit cheaper than retail. There's none there right now cause (I'm presuming) last year models are being replaced by this years + I'm guessing will be up before the CAO offers are out again...

    As of yet I'm not a lapknob but will be soon. Will either be dell in student lappy programme or this acer http://www.laptopsdirect.ie/Acer_Aspire_5602WLMi_LX.ACT05.080/version-1.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭irlrobins


    dajaffa wrote:
    As of yet I'm not a lapknob but will be soon. Will either be dell in student lappy programme or this acer http://www.laptopsdirect.ie/Acer_Aspire_5602WLMi_LX.ACT05.080/version-1.asp
    Acer looks pretty sweet. Just be sure to get the three warranty on it. And check support options for it too. At least with Dell it's a local call and if u buy thru UCD you get better support. I've found Acer support to be poor tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭Nehpets


    When in a lecture hall, does the sound of the typing not effect or annoy other people? Some people type very loud..

    I'm not in college yet but I will be getting a laptop.. It just makes sense. Whats the point in havning lots of paper notes, folders. everything is hard to find - unless you're a very organised person - but that still takes more effort than a laptop.

    Is there wireless internet in the lecture halls? If so.. could people just be on msn to eachother?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    dajaffa wrote:
    If u follow this lilnk http://www.ucd.ie/computing/staffit/itucd/studentlaptop/ you can get dells through the student laptop programme which are a fair bit cheaper than retail. There's none there right now cause (I'm presuming) last year models are being replaced by this years + I'm guessing will be up before the CAO offers are out again...
    This years should be up already, they sent out a letter to all comp. sci. students with details of the deals they have on Dell, HP and Apple laptops sometime last week, along with a form on how to apply. If anyone wants the form, I can give it to them as I don't need it.
    Nehpets wrote:
    When in a lecture hall, does the sound of the typing not effect or annoy other people? Some people type very loud..
    ...
    Is there wireless internet in the lecture halls? If so.. could people just be on msn to eachother?
    Even with loudly typing people, it isn't really noticable, and is still a lot less distracting than the other ambient noises.

    There is wireless in the lecture halls (at least in the science and comp. science buildings, i'm not in arts so don't know), and yes people use it for things which have nothing to do with the lecture, it's usually bebo though more than msn. Even so, I think it's a good idea to have it there, as i've used it for looking over old notes, and at other stuff lecture related while i'm there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭gubbie


    Nehpets wrote:
    When in a lecture hall, does the sound of the typing not effect or annoy other people? Some people type very loud..

    I'm not in college yet but I will be getting a laptop.. It just makes sense. Whats the point in havning lots of paper notes, folders. everything is hard to find - unless you're a very organised person - but that still takes more effort than a laptop.

    Is there wireless internet in the lecture halls? If so.. could people just be on msn to eachother?

    Laptops are only annoying if you're in lectures that require you to take down additional notes onto the page of notes which lecturers do so people come to the lectures

    And I dunno about any other lectures but in Engineering you're distracted more by people talking and throwing paper then you would be from the typing. I've heard that in Quinn that they're not allowed use them during lectures cos they're too distracting. Dunno if thats true.

    I gotta get me a lap top


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    God I used to hate some of the laptop users in the library.
    *CLACKITY CLACKITY CLACKITY*

    You'd swear they were trying to smash their keyboards. Thank god for electronic free zones.

    No laptop for me, borrowed my dads the odd weekend to finish typing up an essay or sample question. Need pen and paper to plan and write out an essay for the first time though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Got a laptop for college because I wouldn't be at home to access the PC. I don't ever bring it to lectures because the sound of other people clacking while you try to hear stupid lecturers who can't figure out how the mic works drives me crazy, but like Rain On I don't really do handwriting all that much, and never for academic writing.

    If you don't need it, don't get it. I'm still paying for mine. But if you can afford it, and you want it badly, get it. It is handy for the odd occasion when you really need to finish an essay and know that there definitely won't be any computers free. Especially with the widespread use of memory keys, you can just transfer your essay to the college computers and print it off there, or even get most of the essay done at home and only bring in the memory key. (My new one is pink and very, very cute.)

    It's a personal thing. There are pluses and minuses. But only you can decide.

    And you can get better deals than the Dell ones with the college, afaik.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    bought it for myself

    use it to do essays for college and for when im in the library - couldnt be arsed using it in a lecture to take notes - easier and better with pad and pen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


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    And I have one because it's compulsory for Comp Sci students :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭BG2


    Well its highly essential for me.

    I live on my own and its works as my main source of communication, my dvd player, my cd player, my tv, my phone etc and obviously most importantly its where I can communicate with my lecturers and students and where i do my research and assignments.

    Otherwise i'd have to use the college computers all the time. I once had a project where the software was only available on the college computers and I found it really stressful. It was coming to the end of semester and there'd be huge queues and then of course something would happen and I couldn't login or i'd lose my work.

    Also I need my laptop in the library for online research while I read books.

    So yes, I see it as essentially convenient. I mean I suppose anyone could work without one but I would find it stressful having to rely on UCD computers.

    I dont use it for lecture notes though and I find the sound of others typing in class very annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭techguy


    I'm a computer science too and it's essential for us..I have since upgraded to a fully fledged desktop with 2 screens..a bit OTT but what the heck!

    I got an eee pc for xmas which I will use when out and about..It's a great choice for anybody who needs a laptop but doesn't want to spend that much..mine cost me €320!

    I never use mine in lectures as I don't see the need except for the boring lectures where you can just browse the net..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I'm still with pen and paper. I've thought about getting one and I can see a lot of benefits but I feel more comfortable dealing with my big clump of untidy notes. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Frisbee wrote: »
    And I have one because it's compulsory for Comp Sci students :)
    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I got an eee PC 1000 last summer, and carry it to UCD occasionally. I found it most useful in the library, where I can turn the WiFi off and get 5+ hours battery life, and tuck it under my arm when leaving the desk for any reason. (No way am I leaving it unattended: it's highly portable, and thus highly nickable.)

    I never expected it to take the place of pen and paper in lectures, because most of my lectures last semester had formulas and diagrams to take down, not just words - and I disagree with anything that makes noise in lectures. Also, all UCD lecture theatres I've been to are simply not ready for mass laptop use. Much more cramped than e.g. that scene in Legally Blonde, with the rows of IBM Thinkpads and a single Mac iBook. I feel particularly worried for folks trying to fit a standard 15" laptop on those narrow tables in the Science Hub lecture theatres - they look about as secure as a fat lady on a see-saw. :eek:

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    I got a laptop in my third year and although I didn't make serious use of it until final year it was definitely a good decision. There's nothing like having no Computing Services restrictions on your desktop, being able to play games if you want to chill out and having local versions of the software you want on it.

    One bit of advice: Either get a sub-600-euro machine or go as high price/performance as you can afford. Otherwise you're going to be wasting your cash. I took the hit on buying a then top of the range Macbook Pro just under two years ago, and aside from a hard drive upgrade I'm not planning to replace it anytime soon. The Macbooks definitely make sense for anyone who doesn't need the gfx card though, and they will last years. Likewise something like the ePC or the Acer One is a great little machine that will last many years because it's meant for low powered use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭mloc


    Now that I'm in PhD land I have one, even though I have a desktop at my desk. I use it mostly for personal stuff (it's a 17" MacBook Pro, which I splashed out the rediculous bills on because I'm pretty into photography). I do use it for "work" stuff when I'm down in Vincent's doing research.

    Last year I was doing a masters in Smurfit and it was essential to have a laptop, would not have functioned without it. Last year, however, I had a standard Dell D620.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭IrishKnight


    While a laptop comes in handy for doing asignments and what not, I really think that for lectures you can beat good ol' pen and paper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    We had a lecturer today order all laptops shut, saying he wants a "laptop-free zone". I can see attendance at his lectures dropping a bit...

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


    I don't have a laptop. nope.


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