Deferring a year / Repeating a year

pbsuxok1znja4r

Right, well, my august repeats are starting soon and I'm not very likely to pass 'em. Sad but true.

If I have to, I will of course repeat 2nd year (Eng). But I'm thinking I'd like to take a year out to work full-time before I go back. One good reason for this is that it's gonna cost more than a few quid to repeat the year (I don't think I'll be able to do it externally as the Horizons crap is in the year under me). Another reason is that I'd be doing myself a big favour if I sorted out car and/or accomodation for when I went back. Also I'd like to take the time to pursue the other things that really interest me; music, band, writing, reading etc etc etc.
I don't want to enter third year with these things distracting me as much as they are now/ have been. I've had little to no motivation to study or do well at college up 'till now, but I do want to come back to finish the degree, sooner or later; when I'm ready.

Anyway, I'm wondering does anyone have any wisdom to share regarding these things? Anyone deferred and/or repeated one of their years? Was it beneficial/disastrous?

Riamfada

My advice. And we all know its invaluable... Would be to try your best to pass your repeats and then defer third year. Take the time to do the things you want before sitting your final year. Personally Id finish the last year and then do what needs to be done without the hassle of saving money to go back to college you could be saving money for your band or travelling.
However if you fail your repeats i wouldnt think it would be wise to take a year out and then repeat second year. Would really be setting you back in the grand scheme of things.

Chose well young student and best of luck in the future because whatever you decide to do , its never the end of the world .. this coming from a 2nd year 23 year old .

Grimes

Jonny Arson

Grimes wrote:

However if you fail your repeats i wouldnt think it would be wise to take a year out and then repeat second year. Would really be setting you back in the grand scheme of things.

What the man said!

Firstly obvious advice: try your best to pass your repeat exams. Taking a year out before your repeat a year would be disasterous as you'll be lessening your prospects of passing the repeat year. If you pass your exams successfully it could well be a good idea to take a year out before 3rd year if you are disillusioned and/or bored with your course. You would be half way through your four years and I could not imagine taking a year out before your final year would be at all productive.

I repeated 1st year last year and I felt overall it waste of a year ever despite successfully passing the year. My negative feelings towards last year was mainly due to having a too much free time on my hands, I was able to work during the year which was a plus but I felt academically I was wasted by only having 2 lectures a week, I honestly would have prefered to have repeated the entire year as I would have been learning and progressing as a college student instead of becoming academically static like I am now. Remember if god forbid you did repeat the year you'll have to repeat what modules you failed so (depending on how bad you may do) you could repeat anything from the whole year to a couple of modules like I did.

It sounds to me that you need a time out of college. If your desires are to work, earn money, make music, discover new things etc. then it may well be a good idea to go for it now rather than later in life when you have a full time job and a billion euro mortgage to pay.

Best of luck

Dave!

ahh you put the idea back in my head......... lol

Riamfada

If you are young it would probably be wise to finish college as quickly as possible and then you are free to do whatever you want in your own time.

If you start to work and earn money its very difficult to give that up to go back. Also a full time job would distract you from doing the things you really want to do with your free time. Running a car in college is very expensive and loans and the rest are very difficult to organise when you are only working a few hours a week.

pbsuxok1znja4r

Thanks guys...I was starting to get that "everything is not going to be okay" feeling. I guess if I pass the repeats I'll defer before going into 3rd year. If I fail the repeats (and sadly this is infinitely more probable) I guess I'll just go right back into 2nd year.

wrote:

It sounds to me that you need a time out of college. If your desires are to work, earn money, make music, discover new things etc. then it may well be a good idea to go for it now rather than later in life when you have a full time job and a billion euro mortgage to pay.

Given that I would probably be repeating most of if not all of the modules over again, would you still recommend against taking this coming year out if I fail? I kind of agree, you see, about needing to go for these other things now rather than later. I'd rather be a 23 year old undergrad than a 23 year old fledgling musician/writer/whatever. UCD isn't going anywhere, the way I see it...

Guess I should worry about exams for now, though.

ferdi

i thought you couldnt deffer willy-nilly? i want to deffer!!!

Riamfada

ferdi wrote:

i thought you couldnt deffer willy-nilly? i want to deffer!!!

as far as i know you just head into the office and fire away. Knock yourself out!

panda100

I wouldnt agree with what grimes said about getting college out of the way and finishing quickly.

I repeated a year and one of my friends took a year out last year to go travelling. Both of us agree that it was the best thing we ever did. For me I wasnt sure if I was in the right course so decided to repeat externally and look into other options and do a bit of work experience.I spent the year working,getting a bit of money together and enjoying for the first time in 10 years having no consistent study to do. Deffering the year will give you a bit of time to do what you want in life and to sort yourself out study wise so you will go into second year with gusto in 2007/08.
I dont think its healthy for an individual to go to college at 17 and then start working at 21.You cant really know what you want to do with your life when your 17 and college is so hectic with essays and exams that you dont get any time to think if your life is on the right track for you.

College is going to be one of the most important stages in your life you will ever do so If you can afford to take a year out to clear your head,go travelling or do whatever you want I would really reccomend it.

Dave!

panda100 wrote:

I wouldnt agree with what grimes said about getting college out of the way and finishing quickly.

I repeated a year and one of my friends took a year out last year to go travelling. Both of us agree that it was the best thing we ever did. For me I wasnt sure if I was in the right course so decided to repeat externally and look into other options and do a bit of work experience.I spent the year working,getting a bit of money together and enjoying for the first time in 10 years having no consistent study to do. Deffering the year will give you a bit of time to do what you want in life and to sort yourself out study wise so you will go into second year with gusto in 2007/08.
I dont think its healthy for an individual to go to college at 17 and then start working at 21.You cant really know what you want to do with your life when your 17 and college is so hectic with essays and exams that you dont get any time to think if your life is on the right track for you.

College is going to be one of the most important stages in your life you will ever do so If you can afford to take a year out to clear your head,go travelling or do whatever you want I would really reccomend it.

That's why I'm thinking of doing it! Spot on

Riamfada

panda100 wrote:

I don't think its healthy for an individual to go to college at 17 and then start working at 21.
College is going to be one of the most important stages in your life you will ever do so If you can afford to take a year out to clear your head,go traveling or do whatever you want I would really recommend it.

I disagree. I never said he should get a job at 21 but I think it would be alot more prudent to finish college at 21 and then travel with no commitments of having to come back to the academic life rather than having to break his new lifestyle to go back to college.
College isn't the life for alot of people. Myself included and it sounds like the OP isn't that pushed either. But like the LC its a means to an end. Taking a year out doesn't necessarily mean that he will come back to second year with gusto. From his attitude a year out seems more like escapism and I wouldn't say he would come back at all.

Panda its pretty clear that you love college life and immerse yourself in the atmosphere and I respect that however many people just dislike it.

My advice , if you dont like it get it over with it now. Because if you dont like it now. You sure as hell arnt going to like it when your 23 and all your mates are pulling 800 euro a week jobs and buying houses. But thats just me being bitter :mad:

ferdi

grimes, that poxy mary robinson sig is puttig me off!!:mad:

my plan is to do my repeats to the best of my ability but after that....if i pass (unlikely) i will obviously go aead with my final year but if i fail (likely) i'm in two minds....i could repeat AGAIN (cost me a fortune) or i could go do something else...

my trouble is, i really dont like college all that much, obviously i enjoy the party lifestyle but other than that it holds very little appeal for me. i'd like to go out into the world and seek my fortune but my brain is condidtioned to believe that without a college degree i will end up flipping burgers. elsewhere in europe college is one of many equally valid options for school leavers but in Ireland it just seems to be absolulty essential to have a dergee to get any kind of decent job...

but then this gets me thinking...i dont want a job that employs people with arts degrees! i dont want to be in an office, i dont want to do research, i dont want to teach...i dread pushing pencils for the rest of my life.

rant over.

Sangre

Finishing college at 20 ftw, the world is my oyster baby.

Ever thought of a trade ferdi? Being an electrician is certainly a challenging, clean enough and well paid trade.

ferdi

yeah i have thought of a trade....i dont know i might have moral issues ripping people off so severly...

i'd like to be a game keeper in a nature reserve or work on a salvage ship....something outside anyway

Sangre

Alaskan crab fisherman!

pbsuxok1znja4r

I started college at 17, so if I pass all exams, don't have to repeat anything I'll finish at 21. If I were to say, repeat a year and defer a year I'd finish at 23. Meh.

I think maybe Grimes was right. College is just a means to an end for me and if I deferred a year it'd probably just be escapism. Absence probably wouldn't make the heart grow any fonder, etc. *Sigh*

Stepherunie

You kinda need to have a definate plan if you are going to take a year out - a friend of mine dropped out of a course she was doing after her leaving cert - she then did noting for ages and never reapplied ot the cao, now she's just after finishing her leaving cert again and expects to get less points than she got the first time because she became so disjointed about the necessity of going to school to learn. She ended up being told by her school that'd she be better off now coming in anymore in march, that was after never really going in the first place.

So as well all head into our 3rd years of college she'll only just be starting. To know what you want is important, yes you want to enjoy things, all of us do, but at least know where you want to be in a few years time so you can plan the best way to get there and still achieve the other things you want to achieve.

Riamfada

scouser.tommy wrote:

I think maybe Grimes was right.

in your faces !


Tommy . If you dont want to be an engineer dont do it. Whatever makes you happy make that your carreer. We are all going into the gound at some point. Its how you look back on that life on your death bed and knoiw you did your best . There is plenty of time left to make plenty of mistakes.

Hope you end up happy whatever you decide

Dave!

Grimes wrote:

in your faces !


Tommy . If you dont want to be an engineer dont do it. Whatever makes you happy make that your carreer. We are all going into the gound at some point. Its how you look back on that life on your death bed and knoiw you did your best . There is plenty of time left to make plenty of mistakes.

Hope you end up happy whatever you decide

Goddamn that was profound!



Ahh here lads, I don't know what to do!

Riamfada

DaveMcG wrote:

Ahh here lads, I don't know what to do!

Dave , what you want do be when you grow up?

Dave!

I dunno An archaeologist! No. lol.

But for the past couple of years the only careers I've had in my mind are (a) Gardaí, or (b) Army

So the translation is, I dunno (since that's probably what most people say when they don't want a desk job)...

Cén fáth?

ps. Anyone know if there's a deadline for telling the college about deferral? The programme office would probably be the best people to ask, I'll give them an email tomorrow.

InFront

Are you me?
Ive just formally quit my course. Well, not quite, technically Ive deferred my failed year. I failed the year last May and I got so fed up with repeating Summer (I had genuinely worked hard through the year) that I just decided that I wasnt attempting Autumn and quit. Apparently the door is open for me to repeat in 2007 but tbh Im not even considering that as an option.
Instead Im doing exactly what youre planning on OP, Im working for a few months then going to Pakistan in October for a month, and doing stuff like travelling in eastern Europe after that, basically being a waster/hippy/ college dropout type. Stepherunie is right though, if youre taking a year out, make sure you do something constructive with it (or have a plan).
I do intend to apply to college again and in 2007 I'll be a fresher in Trinity (I know). My point is that for some people, this is the right choice. OP you are correct, UCD will still be here when you get back. You will probably be better off apporaching your third level education as a "mature student!". Crikey.

Anyway, I know Im not one to preach on this, but you probably should at least attempt Autumn, If you do fail talk to your student advisor, theyre not there to keep you on the course, they really are just trying to look out for your best interests wthether that means staing in college or backpacking across Guatamala or something! Good luck with whatever happens.

InFront

DaveMcG wrote:

ps. Anyone know if there's a deadline for telling the college about deferral?

Not that I know of, I think they'll accept a deferral up to anytime before the end of January tbh

ferdi

word to you, In Front, my man.

Scraggs

Can anybody tell me offhand if you fail repeats can you repeat externally what with this Horizons malarky? (don't worry folks I will research properly if it happens:o)

Stepherunie

Quite simple: No

There's no external repeating anymore, you just have to pay for the modules you repeat and your registration fee.

ferdi

can someone tell me this:

i am doing a traditional non-modularised course at the moment, if i fail my repeats, will i have to repeat the year in modularised form (ie: start from scratch with a completely new course?:eek: )

Stepherunie

yep but you'll only have to take the courses you failed in the new system - oh and probably the option modules too.

Check with youre dept though - they'll know best, i just know the rough deal

ferdi

"yep but you'll only have to take the courses you failed in the new system - oh and probably the option modules too." <- i have no idea what you mean by that! please explain..


i passed all my summer exams, its just poor/lack of course work that will cause me to fail, so i didnt fail any one part of the course per say...

dajaffa

Basically you'll be able to get exemptions from modules that were the same as whatever subjects u passed. You'd have to repeat modules of the subjects u failed + do 2 modules outside your core ones

ferdi

thanks for the explaination but i dont really understand the who modularised system so i dont really get what your saying....me stupido

Stepherunie

go to the exams wesbite - they generally have an explanation of what happens up there.

ferdi

Stepherunie wrote:

go to the exams wesbite - they generally have an explanation of what happens up there.

LOL:D
of course they dont !!!!

boneless

That's a right laugh!! Methinks that this Horizons thingy is a crock of sh!te!!

pbsuxok1znja4r

Is the repeat fee different depending on how many modules you've to repeat? Or is it like Autumn exams where there's a fixed price regardless of how many/few you repeat?

Jonny Arson

scouser.tommy wrote:

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

It sounds to me that you need a time out of college. If your desires are to work, earn money, make music, discover new things etc. then it may well be a good idea to go for it now rather than later in life when you have a full time job and a billion euro mortgage to pay.

Given that I would probably be repeating most of if not all of the modules over again, would you still recommend against taking this coming year out if I fail? I kind of agree, you see, about needing to go for these other things now rather than later. I'd rather be a 23 year old undergrad than a 23 year old fledgling musician/writer/whatever. UCD isn't going anywhere, the way I see it...

Guess I should worry about exams for now, though.

I would have to contradict my opinion and say that if you did fail your repeats it would be a bad move to take a year out and repeat the year. Taking time out on college won't improve you academically so, I think as someone else said, taking a year out after failing would be running away from any academic difficulties you may have.

It still stand by what I said that you sound like you need to some time out from college, whether this is more personal or academic I'm unsure of. Your first priority must be to give it your best shot in the repeats, don't think about anything else. Then asses what you really want to do. As I said taking a year won't improve your adademic abilities, you will become out of the loop after a year when it comes to knuckling down to study. If you feel you need time out of college to do new things with your life then go ahead if you feel it isn't going to compromise yourself academically but if you take a year our simply because you're struggling on your course then that could be a dangerous thing to do. If you hate your course (and pass your repeats) taking a year out could be good idea because you may find something in your life that suits you but at the same time you'll have an option of returning to college. I'll say again, don't take a year out before repeating a year.

scouser.tommy wrote:

Is the repeat fee different depending on how many modules you've to repeat? Or is it like Autumn exams where there's a fixed price regardless of how many/few you repeat?

If you fail half of your course after the August repeats then you'll have to repeat 30 credits out of 60 credits, basically it's dictated on a proportion of what you may fail. i.e. fail 1 out of 4 subjects - repeat 15 credtis out of 60 but if you passed say a module out of a failed subject that could be 10 credits.

see my post below for a better jist.....

ferdi wrote:

can someone tell me this:

i am doing a traditional non-modularised course at the moment, if i fail my repeats, will i have to repeat the year in modularised form (ie: start from scratch with a completely new course? )

From what I understand you passed one of your 2 subjects and failed one right? In modular terms you've completed 30/60 credits for Stage 2. Each of your courses in Archaeology should have a similar shape to modularisation, i.e. you should be doing 5/6 courses within Archaeology, each of these will now be modules. So in your repeats (which you will pass) your result is based on a combination of all your courses in Arch. If you did fail Arch overall thus have to repeat the year, they'll look at your 5/6 courses/modules, see which ones you achieved a 40% plus grade in, the modules you would fail (say 3 modules) would be carried over into the repeat year next year so that would mean you would be required to repeat 15 credits (ie 3 modules x 5 credits each)

Hope you got that!

panda100

I think a lot of people in this thread such as infront and Dave MC G are really unsure what there doing with their life. I think its great that some people like Sangre and Grimes have a clear cut plan to get there degree and get out of college by by the time there 21. However,once you graduate with a degree your stuck with that particular degree for the rest of your life. Once you finish with an eng degree at the age of 21 you really have no choice but to do something eng related for the rest of your life. I can hardly see an accountancy firm taking you on with just an engineering degree.
I know my exboyfriend took a year out in first year after he did two months of engineering and he came back and did economics and finance in September and is know working in some accountancy firm in London and loving it.
As Grimes said we all only have one life and we all do want to get out there and graduate and start enjoying life. However, you have to be true to yourself and if you are unsure or your heart is not in your study then really just continuing with your course for the sake of it and to get it over with I think will be the biggest mistake of your life.
What harm will it be of taking the year out,working,seeing what options are out there. Was enginnering always your first choice? I know people who wanted vetineray and went back and repeated their leaving after a year in college so they could get into the course they truly wanted.

Really age is just a number so dont listen to anyone on this thread who says 23 is too old to be in college. There are people in my class that are 35 and have said to me that they rushed in and out of college before they were 21 just going though the motions of getting a degree and not knowing what they really wanted to do.
To me it really sounds like the last thing you want to do is to head back into second year.If I was you Id have a really good think about what YOU really want to do keeping in mind that lots of people change courses,take a year out and finish college well into their twenties.

dajaffa

ferdi wrote:

thanks for the explaination but i dont really understand the who modularised system so i dont really get what your saying....me stupido

Basically in the modular system you have to complete 60 credits each year. Generally this means 12 modules (or seperate subjects, some bigger ones could have more than one module, eg maths1 and maths2).

For most courses (it's a bit different in arts sometimes) there's 50 credits/10 modules that make up your core modules, aka your course. For the remaining 10 credits you pick any modules you want to do tha fit into your schedule which are in addition to your core subjects. Like u could have 50 credits of your science course, and do a module in french and one in history so you have 60 credits.

Steveire

I was starting to get that "everything is not going to be okay" feeling. I guess if I pass the repeats I'll defer before going into 3rd year. If I fail the repeats (and sadly this is infinitely more probable) I guess I'll just go right back into 2nd year.

Don't worry about it. Everything is going to be OK. How many did you fail? What discipline of engineering are you studying? Which subjects?

Talk to Colleen Blaney.

Did you find that you couldn't fit things like your band into your week during second year? It's a full timetable, but I'm amazed how much non-course stuff people manage to do in the same time.

I dont think its healthy for an individual to go to college at 17 and then start working at 21.

Why not? Does development as an individual have that much to do with age? I don't think so. But, as someone else said, you don't have to start working then either.

i am doing a traditional non-modularised course at the moment, if i fail my repeats, will i have to repeat the year in modularised form (ie: start from scratch with a completely new course? )

That's the case in engineering, and it's something OP should consider too. With the restructuring going on in the department, next years second year will be very different to this years second year, because it will be modular. Subjects which were separate exams this summer, could be lumped into modules next year in a way that means you could have to start again from scratch this year or repeat lectures (and practicals/reports, etc) in subjects that are part of the same module.

Is the repeat fee different depending on how many modules you've to repeat?

Yes. You pay per module. I'm not sure all that stuff Zane says about credits matters so much, seeing as the amount of modules you have to do will depend on how many and which repeats you might fail.

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

asses

hehe

If you feel you need time out of college to do new things with your life then go ahead if you feel it isn't going to compromise yourself academically but if you take a year our simply because you're struggling on your course then that could be a dangerous thing to do.

Very good point I think. A reason for deferring is everything in making a decision about whether to do it or not.

However,once you graduate with a degree your stuck with that particular degree for the rest of your life. Once you finish with an eng degree at the age of 21 you really have no choice but to do something eng related for the rest of your life. I can hardly see an accountancy firm taking you on with just an engineering degree.

Utter rubbish. Particularly in relation to engineering. Engineers really get into all kinds of careers, including going straight into business. You really do learn skills rather than equations. It's a very versatile degree regardless of which discipline you're studying. You might not be working as an accountant, but there's no reason you can't work in an accountancy firm.

However, you have to be true to yourself and if you are unsure or your heart is not in your study then really just continuing with your course for the sake of it and to get it over with I think will be the biggest mistake of your life.

If this is based on having to 'do engineering' once you've got an engineering degree, then it's rubbish. However, the end of second year is the latest you should consider dropping engineering for another course. I haven't seen anything to make me think you don't want to switch course anyway though. People fail engineering just because it's difficult, not needing any other reason.

If you fail the autumn repeats (which I doubt is as likely as you think), my advice is to go straight back into college - second year or third year. It won't get any easier if you take a year out, and you won't know anyone in your year. That could only make things more difficult.

Stick up a post on the engineering board here if you need help with something. I reckon there's smart people posting there.

This is a long post, so I'll repeat the only important part:

Talk to Colleen Blaney.

You'll get useful and usable information that way.

I've thought about this a little bit over the last few months. Wish me luck in my repeats.

ferdi

new question:

if i do worse in my repeats than in my summer exams, could this mean i may have to repeat more moduals when i repeat the year, than if i had gone into it using my original (better) exam results?

Sangre

no

pbsuxok1znja4r

panda100 wrote:

I think a lot of people in this thread such as infront and Dave MC G are really unsure what there doing with their life. I think its great that some people like Sangre and Grimes have a clear cut plan to get there degree and get out of college by by the time there 21. However,once you graduate with a degree your stuck with that particular degree for the rest of your life. Once you finish with an eng degree at the age of 21 you really have no choice but to do something eng related for the rest of your life. I can hardly see an accountancy firm taking you on with just an engineering degree.
I know my exboyfriend took a year out in first year after he did two months of engineering and he came back and did economics and finance in September and is know working in some accountancy firm in London and loving it.
As Grimes said we all only have one life and we all do want to get out there and graduate and start enjoying life. However, you have to be true to yourself and if you are unsure or your heart is not in your study then really just continuing with your course for the sake of it and to get it over with I think will be the biggest mistake of your life.
What harm will it be of taking the year out,working,seeing what options are out there. Was enginnering always your first choice? I know people who wanted vetineray and went back and repeated their leaving after a year in college so they could get into the course they truly wanted.

Really age is just a number so dont listen to anyone on this thread who says 23 is too old to be in college. There are people in my class that are 35 and have said to me that they rushed in and out of college before they were 21 just going though the motions of getting a degree and not knowing what they really wanted to do.
To me it really sounds like the last thing you want to do is to head back into second year.If I was you Id have a really good think about what YOU really want to do keeping in mind that lots of people change courses,take a year out and finish college well into their twenties.

Yeah, I agree, I mean, TBH, my "first choice" would be something like Arts(english,phil, etc), Journalism or Music, but that's just not where teh moolah's at. I'm good at everything, so I could've picked any course at all (within points), but I picked Eng 'cause I know it'll yield a solid, well-paying job, within many potential fields. It's actually extremely common for accounting firms to hire Eng degree holders. I'm doing Mech Eng, which is most flexible of all in this regard. One guy I know of graduated two years ago and is now apparently a stock broker in London. So, while Engineering may not be the most exciting subject for me, I have no shortage of aptitude for it and I'm thinking I'll just grit my teeth and plough ahead with the degree.
Thanks v much for the advice, anyway. I'll probably do the year out travelling thing before 3rd year. PM me if you ever get those alco-free UCD outings going, eh?

panda100

scouser.tommy wrote:

Yeah, I agree, I mean, TBH, my "first choice" would be something like Arts(english,phil, etc), Journalism or Music, but that's just not where teh moolah's at. I'm good at everything, so I could've picked any course at all (within points), but I picked Eng 'cause I know it'll yield a solid, well-paying job, within many potential fields. It's actually extremely common for accounting firms to hire Eng degree holders. I'm doing Mech Eng, which is most flexible of all in this regard. One guy I know of graduated two years ago and is now apparently a stock broker in London. So, while Engineering may not be the most exciting subject for me, I have no shortage of aptitude for it and I'm thinking I'll just grit my teeth and plough ahead with the degree.
Thanks v much for the advice, anyway. I'll probably do the year out travelling thing before 3rd year. PM me if you ever get those alco-free UCD outings going, eh?

yep will do!
Anyway,maybe gritting your teeth and going ahead with the degree might be the best option for you.Looks like you have your head well screwed on so Im sure whatever descision you make will be good. Best of luck for the repeats

InFront

Originally posted by Panda100:
I think a lot of people in this thread such as infront and Dave MC G are really unsure what there doing with their life

Gasp:eek: yeah pretty spot on actually:o Too many smilies

<Goes back to playing dice with career moves>:)

Dave!

Yes! I got Solicitor!

*rolls again*

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ferdi

ok so my first repeat starts at 14:30 today. nevertheless, i was down at the exam centre in blackrock at 09:00 wondering why my exam wasnt on:D :rolleyes: didnt even look at my nicely printed out timetable and got up at 05:30 for nothing

anyways, the nice head invigilator man told me my exam starts at 14:30 and goes til 16:30...but this got the cogs in my brain turning.....why is it a 2 hour exam??...i look at my own timetable and yes, indeed, its says paper 1 is now a 2 hour exam....but only a few months ago paper 1 was a 3hour exam...and paper 3 was a 1.5 hour exam...and now its a 3hour exam.....WTF..WTF....WTF!!!!!!????????

singingstranger

Dude, relax. There's a 99% chance that the stuff will just appear on the other paper. Good luck with them.

sicruise

I repeated 2nd year and finished when i was 22... was so easy second time around!

Just get out of college as soon as you can...

Chakar

If DaveMcG graduated with a computer science degree and got in the Gardai he would have an very exciting career there.Or you can actually work in the Gardai on a contract as a civilian.

Riamfada

Chakar wrote:

If DaveMcG graduated with a computer science degree and got in the Gardai he would have an very exciting career there.Or you can actually work in the Gardai on a contract as a civilian.

But dave is in Arts remember.

Chakar

Grimes wrote:

But dave is in Arts remember.

DaveMcG is in Arts as in BA Computer Science?!!