Outer Ring Road Hell! (semi hell)

mike65

Anyone using the ORR will have noticed how the eastbound lanes have been reduced to one thanks to 3 sections of the raod being coned off. The reason being installation of lighting and a pavement which is grand (they should have built them during construction of course) but they're doing sod all work on two of the sections, resulting in slow tailbacks behind JCBs and farm vehicles.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr :mad:

Good to see the link between the N25 and the Old Kilmeaden Road is almost complete.

Mike.

deisemum

You'd think they'd do one section at a time but at least they're finally getting round to doing it. I'm glad they opened the road as soon as they did rather than waiting for the lighting and footpaths because we can still have access to the road.

That was a horrific car accident by the Williamstown golf course entrance yesterday morning. Anyone know what happened or what happened the driver or know if he/she's ok? When we were passing there were 3 units of the fire brigade, ambulances and Gardai dealing with it and the car was in bits down in the ditch

mike65

Did'nt hear about that. Only one car involved?

Mike.

Aquos76

Male driver, only one car involved. He missed the roundabout and went right through it. Not sure how if he was badly injured.

pp_me129

what happened is he was in the inside lane and was speedin i guess by what happened

and as he gave to the roundabout he skided across the road into 1 of those huge signs
you can see the mark running across the road

his own stupidy

portlairge

all wrong this is the real story i was on the call.... 5 females in car all cream crackers full of hooch? one trapped we had to cut her out......

Aquos76

portlairge wrote:

all wrong this is the real story i was on the call.... 5 females in car all cream crackers full of hooch? one trapped we had to cut her out......

Is this so?

Strange how stories are put around alright.

Bards

portlairge wrote:

all wrong this is the real story i was on the call.... 5 females in car all cream crackers full of hooch? one trapped we had to cut her out......

excuse my ignorance and use of slang.. but what exactly do you mean by "cream crackers full of hooch?"

Aquos76

Bards wrote:

excuse my ignorance and use of slang.. but what exactly do you mean by "cream crackers full of hooch?"

imho I would say he means 5 of the travelling community full of drink!

mike65

Cream crackers - knackers.

Mike.

Aquos76

mike65 wrote:

Cream crackers - knackers.

Mike.

Ah good old Mike straigh to the point.

mike65

Mike.

Bards

Thanks Mike for clearing that one up.. Keeping true to the sterotype of said people... was it a Hi-Ace by any chance:D

mike65

The wimmim all retired to WRH and were apparently worse for wear in all senses of that phrase. The Gardai were having a hard time getting a sample

Mike.

trishw78

There also putting in a domestic water pipe and gas works along the ORR not sure which side. The lighting, footpaths and cycle paths were an after thought by WCC and were not inculded in the original tender as Coffey Construction did not win that tender they are being installed now.

How do I know this info I work for Coffey's and was there when the tender was being submitted

mike65

I see pipe ends on the inside of the road. So I guess thats the water or maybe its just drainage. Anyway they are on holliday, why start a job and then down tools? Grrrrrr

Mike.

trishw78

don't worry if there on CIF (Construction Industry Federation) holidays they'll be back on Tuesday

AdMMM

I saw the car being removed a few hours later. The roof had been cut off which made the car and the accident look a lot worse than it probably was but that sign did get a battering!

Bards

Anyone know when the Ring road to the Kilmeaden road wil be open?.. looks to be finished

fricatus

Yeah, it looks like it's done, just a case of removing the barriers as far as I can see. Don't know what the delay is... perhaps holidays?

Not advocating graffitti, but maybe someone should spraypaint "OPEN THE ROAD FOR F*** SAKE" on the barriers. Remember someone did that at the Williamstown end? Have to say I giggled at that one... a step above your usual scumbag with a spraycan.

Roen

fricatus wrote:

Yeah, it looks like it's done, just a case of removing the barriers as far as I can see. Don't know what the delay is... perhaps holidays?

Not advocating graffitti, but maybe someone should spraypaint "OPEN THE ROAD FOR F*** SAKE" on the barriers. Remember someone did that at the Williamstown end? Have to say I giggled at that one... a step above your usual scumbag with a spraycan.

Ahhh I knew it would come in handy one day

mike65

The good people of the Old Kilmeaden Road will be heartily glad when the new bit is open not to mention all those saps who sit at the Holy Cross junction waiting in vain to make a right turn, ditto Doneen before the Sweep.

Mike.

Bards

Anyone hear what Fine Gael's General Election Canditate Jim Darcy had to say this morning on WLRfm's news...

he is advocating reducing the spped limit to 50Km/H on approaches to the roundabouts and/or installing traffic lights at peak times and/or installing rummble strips. As this (In his opinion) is the only way to give equal priority to traffic on the ORR and those wishing to get onto it.

I want to know why he isn't insisting on upgrading it to fully Grade Seperated Junctions instead of this ridiculous proposal which will only make matters worse. One only has to look at the Kinsale Road Roundabout in Cork or the Mad Cow in Dublin to know that putting traffic lights on Roundabouts just does not work. Both are being retrofiited with Grade Seperated Junctions

He is a muppet in my opinion especially since he came out last year about privitasing the Granary Museum as it was loosing money (Museums exists for the promotion of heritage and tourism and therefore make an indirect profit)...I just hope we do not elect him to the Dail next summer.:mad:

mike65

There is'nt a cat in hells chance of that kind of investment being made on the ORR. Its on a different scale to the Cork South Ring, so I understand the counciler on this (shock). I think that flashing ambers plus narrowing strips (which fool people into slowing down) would be enough myself.

Whats required is some road sense, if everyone just eased off a little as they arrived at the Williamstown and Dunmore road roundabouts (the worst two by far) then traffic would be able to merge.

Mike.

Bards

If you don't ask you will never receive... Sligo got Grade Seperated Junctions for their inner relief road... That is the problem with Waterford.. we are prepared to accept the crumbs while everyone else gets the biscuit.
:mad:

merlante

Bards wrote:

If you don't ask you will never receive... Sligo got Grade Seperated Junctions for their inner relief road... That is the problem with Waterford.. we are prepared to accept the crumbs while everyone else gets the biscuit.
:mad:

Indeed, there are any number of mickey mouse towns that seem to land excellent infrastructure. Wouldn't it be nice if Waterford were able to punch above its weight on something.

If a problem is identified, people should try to get it fixed, rather than thinking that Waterford is not big enough for the solution. None of these things are set in stone.

mike65

Is there even room for such changes?

Mike.

Bards

now is the time to plan before more buildings are built alongside the junctions.

As a Start I would recommend the Williamstown Road & the Tramore Road Roundabouts be replaced with Grade Seperated Junctions . Before the City Bypass is connected to the ORR Another one at the Western Junction would be needed. This would help traffic flows considerably & would be a better long term solution.

No Point in sending wannabe TD's to the Dail that cannot think BIG

merlante

Bards wrote:

now is the time to plan before more buildings are built alongside the junctions.

As a Start I would recommend the Williamstown Road & the Tramore Road Roundabouts be replaced with Grade Seperated Junctions . Before the City Bypass is connected to the ORR Another one at the Western Junction would be needed. This would help traffic flows considerably & would be a better long term solution.

No Point in sending wannabe TD's to the Dail that cannot think BIG

Indeed, we could very easily be sorted in Waterford if a few little things were fixed now...

merlante

I've done up a wikipedia article on the Outer Ring Road: here.

I'd appreciate it if people took a quick look to make sure it is complete/correct. I may have some of the names of the roundabouts wrong.

Roen

merlante wrote:

I've done up a wikipedia article on the Outer Ring Road: here.

I'd appreciate it if people took a quick look to make sure it is complete/correct. I may have some of the names of the roundabouts wrong.

Old Tramore road should be Couse Bridge roundabout, plus there's another wrong I think, not sure which. The Lacken road doesn't have a roundabout, it's that big flyover thing.

merlante

Roen wrote:

Old Tramore road should be Couse Bridge roundabout, plus there's another wrong I think, not sure which. The Lacken road doesn't have a roundabout, it's that big flyover thing.

Cheers, so is that all the roundabouts then?

btw., you can change this stuff yourself if you want to you know.

mike65

Couse Bridge roundabout is the stupidest name, I actually e-mailed the council about it (amoung other ORR issues).

Mike.

merlante

mike65 wrote:

Couse Bridge roundabout is the stupidest name, I actually e-mailed the council about it (amoung other ORR issues).

Mike.

Never heard of it myself. What do ye think of 'Williamstown/Farranshoneen'? Leave as is or knock it back to one or the other. I'm not a driver and I'm not in Ireland so ye'll have to let me know.

Freddie59

mike65 wrote:

Cream crackers - knackers.

Mike.

I think the modern term is "socially mobile grouping":eek: :rolleyes:

mike65

Managed to snap this at the Dunmore Rd, Passage Rd mini roundabout



The cars on the right are not parked! The tailback was 2km to the ORR. Why do people just sit there knowing what they know? I'd go via Johnstown and the airport road to ORR.

Mike.

merlante

Good lord!

Trotter

mike65 wrote:

I'd go via Johnstown and the airport road to ORR.

Mike.

Shhhh.. Mike.. You'll send all the traffic over to my nice relatively clear route home!

fricatus

Roen wrote:

Ahhh I knew it would come in handy one day

Roen, you are a legend... I forgot to thank you for that wonderful piece of photography.

I have a few photos of that myself, buried away somewhere. Our smart-ass spraypainter also wrote "Tall Ships me b0llocks!" and "Open dis b1tch" on the barriers. Hehehe...

Still no move on opening that section of road though, it seems...

mike65

They are still installing curbing and drains etc on the new section, but I don't think it should be too long before its ready (not holding brealth you'll notice).

Mike..

Bards

Extract from this week Munster-Express (Views from the Brasscock Column)
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There has been much comment recently from all quarters on the new traffic pressure points created by the new Ring Road. While it has been a most welcome, great piece of road infrastructure, it has generated those pressure points to a greater extent than was anticipated, I’d say. The problems have been merely moved say some. Some evenings at rush hour the queue trying to access the Williamstown Roundabout can be backed all the way to the Folly lights! I also am reading of reports as to the extent of tailbacks at the Tramore/Ballindud Roundabout. I think that flyovers will have to be considered at one or both of those junctions. They finally admitted in Cork a couple of years ago that this was the only feasible solution for the Kinsale Road Roundabout - I drove it last week and yes, it works!
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If enough people start complaining and the media backs it.. it can be done!!!

merlante

Well lets hope they do it then.

mike65

The new section between N25 and Old Kilmeaden Road is finished but its not going to open to regular traffic for a while I reckon, right now its simply being used for moving dump trucks of earth between the big dig above Doneen and
the bypass section going down to the river edge. A truck is entering or leaving that site every minute it seems.

Mike.

fricatus

The new section is still not open. There were calls from various people in both this week's and last week's News & Star asking for that new stretch to open. What's the problem with opening it? Anyone any idea?

merlante

Is it the sort of thing that a minister needs to be there to open?

Bards

Doubt it...Unless it is for exclusive use of Celtic Roads Group who are constructing the City Bypass...

mike65

They are ploughing on s-l-o-w-l-y with the installation of the lights and pavement - I rekcon they should have it done by next summer! :rolleyes:

Mike.

Car Mad

mike65 wrote:

They are ploughing on s-l-o-w-l-y with the installation of the lights and pavement - I rekcon they should have it done by next summer! :rolleyes:

Mike.

the amount of times i wanted to go out that road.i felt like opeing the gate and driving across:eek: u know coming home from dunmore late at nite reach the n25 and suddenly you get a hunger i want to go out to clayboy for some chips:D it will be great when they do open it though.the fella with the spray paint should paint on the road 60km/h me bollix:D now that would be funny:o