2001 555 Registration Number

springs

I have a registration number 01-mh-3555 on a car I bought a while ago and the previous owner told me that she had a few people approach her offering to buy it. Now the car is only a VW Polo so i have no real attachment to the plate. Do you think i could sell it? For much?

Big Balls

In ROI the plate belongs to the car, not the owner.

You can't sell the plate without selling the car and even when you do, it still stays stuck onto the Polo!

Said woman has not got a clue.

Volvoboy

it is illegal to chage reg no. from car to car theres another thread about this somwhere,

Sorry to piss on your cornflakes there ted.

-VB-

Lex Luthor

springs wrote:

I have a registration number 01-mh-3555 on a car I bought a while ago and the previous owner told me that she had a few people approach her offering to buy it. Now the car is only a VW Polo so i have no real attachment to the plate. Do you think i could sell it? For much?

previous owner has no clue and who in their right mind would pay money for a plate????? Maybe Mary Harney would fancy it and seeing as she weighs 35.55 stone it might be fitting...:p

bazz26

springs wrote:

I have a registration number 01-mh-3555 on a car I bought a while ago and the previous owner told me that she had a few people approach her offering to buy it. Now the car is only a VW Polo so i have no real attachment to the plate. Do you think i could sell it? For much?

I'm afraid as others have said you cannot sell or transfer vehicle reg plates in Ireland.

Just out of curiosity what do these people find facinating about the reg plate 01-MH-3555 that they wish to buy it?

Wishbone Ash

bazz26 wrote:

I'm afraid as others have said you cannot sell or transfer vehicle reg plates in Ireland.

Just out of curiosity what do these people find facinating about the reg plate 01-MH-3555 that they wish to buy it?

I presume it's for a Subaru Imprezza 555 (eg 01 MH3 555)

bazz26

Wishbone Ash wrote:

I presume it's for a Subaru Imprezza 555 (eg 01 MH3 555)

Oh right! I'm still a bit hung over from last night.

Blue850

OT but there used to be a 00 reg polo in Galway with the reg 00 G 71 and the owner had but a black screw beside the top of the 7 and moved the G over making 00 GTI

Abelloid

:rolleyes:

ninty9er

JustinOval wrote:

:rolleyes:

Isn't that illegal. It doesn't have an IRL and EU stars. the lack of the Tiobraid Arann isn't actually illegal AFAIK. Plus the T-Sport is 1.8 and TRD is the Japanese equivalent AFAIK. So some eejit is spoiling his/her own broth there.

On the topic. My neighbour has just had the plate on her car changed. It was an LK which was bothering her for some reason as she's always had L. The salesman deregistered it and reregistered it wit an L one

Wishbone Ash

ninty9er wrote:

the lack of the Tiobraid Arann isn't actually illegal

13. The placename shall appear in black letters above the identification mark and each letter of the placename shall have a height of not less than 12 millimetres and a stroke width of not less than 3 millimetres. The total width of the space taken by each letter (other than the letter I) shall be not less than 9 millimetres. Where an accented vowel occurs in the placename the length accent character shall have a height of 2 millimetres above the letter. The distances between the nearest parts of adjoining letters shall be uniform. Where the placename comprises more than one word the distances between the nearest letters of adjoining words shall be uniform and not less than three times the distance between adjoining letters.

ninty9er

Wishbone Ash wrote:

13. The placename shall appear in black letters above the identification mark and each letter of the placename shall have a height of not less than 12 millimetres and a stroke width of not less than 3 millimetres. The total width of the space taken by each letter (other than the letter I) shall be not less than 9 millimetres. Where an accented vowel occurs in the placename the length accent character shall have a height of 2 millimetres above the letter. The distances between the nearest parts of adjoining letters shall be uniform. Where the placename comprises more than one word the distances between the nearest letters of adjoining words shall be uniform and not less than three times the distance between adjoining letters.

But they had to stop the NCT from failing for it with personalised plates.

Ever noticed the ones where the sequence is one county and the placename a neighbouring one
Luimneach
(XX-CE-XXXX)

Alun

ninty9er wrote:

But they had to stop the NCT from failing for it with personalised plates.

I thought all they'd agreed to do was instead of issuing a fail, to give the owner a little sticker with the county name to stick on the number plate. What do you mean by 'personalised plates' ? Illegal ones ?

Wishbone Ash

ninty9er wrote:

But they had to stop the NCT from failing for it with personalised plates.

Ever noticed the ones where the sequence is one county and the placename a neighbouring one
Luimneach
(XX-CE-XXXX)

That's interesting. The NCT manual doesn't state that the City/County name in Irish has to match the City/County letters on the plate.

ninty9er

Alun wrote:

I thought all they'd agreed to do was instead of issuing a fail, to give the owner a little sticker with the county name to stick on the number plate. What do you mean by 'personalised plates' ? Illegal ones ?

Non standard issue are what i would consider personalised (i.e not white with black monotype font with - between year county number, county in Irish and blue patch with stars and IRL)

junkyard

Its possible to transfer plates alright but I think the original car has to be scrapped. Didn't that Russian billionaire just buy VIP1, which was originally a Kilkenny reg, and paid a fortune for it.

Guy:Incognito

junkyard wrote:

Its possible to transfer plates alright but I think the original car has to be scrapped. Didn't that Russian billionaire just buy VIP1, which was originally a Kilkenny reg, and paid a fortune for it.

He isnt using it in ireland though is he.

junkyard

No he isn't but it was transferred all the same. I know of a man who transferred a number from one car to another but the original car was scrapped. Loads of paper work though.:rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito

So I might be able to hold onto my 97 d 97 reg as long as I scrap my car? cool. I'll put it on my flying car in about 20 years time.:)

cargrouch

JustinOval wrote:

TS 1.4i
:rolleyes:

Sad- A lot of bother to advertise the fact that he has a 1.4! (presume your not the owner by the dumbass in the filename)

555 sponsorship was well finished on Subarus by 01. Even the shape of the car would be different form the original 555 livery cars, wouldn't it?

Our man in Havana

Should that not be Tiobard Arann Theas or Thuaidh as the case my be?

ninty9er

Bond-007 wrote:

Should that not be Tiobard Arann Theas or Thuaidh as the case my be?

No. They dopn't separate the administrative areas, the same as LK and L are both Luimneach and WD and W are both Port Lairge

Wishbone Ash

Alun wrote:

I thought all they'd agreed to do was instead of issuing a fail, to give the owner a little sticker with the county name to stick on the number plate.

Today's Irish Examiner: (Stolen from another thread - apologies )

New NCT rules take effect today

New regulations covering the National Car Test are taking effect from today.

The changes include free re-tests in cases where defective tyres are the only cause of failure, as well as a relaxation of the rules governing registration lights and indicators.

Free registration-plate stickers with the relevant county name in Irish will also be provided, while a new pre-payment system for internet bookings has been set up and a new centre will also be opened in Inishowen.

Do-more

junkyard wrote:

Its possible to transfer plates alright but I think the original car has to be scrapped. Didn't that Russian billionaire just buy VIP1, which was originally a Kilkenny reg, and paid a fortune for it.

The VIP 1 in question was a UK number. The UK don't normally issue numbers which correspond with Irish ones, but in this case they did. VIP 1 was issued in the UK for the Popemobile when JP II visited a few years back. It's been traded a number of times since.

Wishbone Ash

Do-more wrote:

The VIP 1 in question was a UK number. The UK don't normally issue numbers which correspond with Irish ones, but in this case they did. VIP 1 was issued in the UK for the Popemobile when JP II visited a few years back. It's been traded a number of times since.

I think you may be confusing it with another:

http://www.regtransfers.co.uk/pr/gnpfs/vip1.asp

First Issued by: Eire Government
Issued: 1984
Price: Sorry. This plate has now been sold.

When it comes to one of the most important and impressive number plates ever issued this must surely rank as one of the best. It was specially issued by the Irish Government in 1984 to commemorate the Pope’s visit, and entered the UK market through an auction shortly afterwards.

The initials VIP are quite rare, but the fact that it stands for Very Important Person puts it in a completely different class. Especially when you consider that there were no other registrations issued with these initials.

If you feel you have achieved a certain status in life through hard work and endeavour you surely deserve the best and should you wish to tell the world this is the registration with which to do it.


Should that not be 1979???

junkyard

I remember reading an article about a Kilkenny business man years before 1984 and he had VIP 1 on an old Jaguar which he was standing against in a photo so I would think it was reissued for the Popes visit.

Do-more

Wishbone Ash wrote:

I think you may be confusing it with another:

http://www.regtransfers.co.uk/pr/gnpfs/vip1.asp

First Issued by: Eire Government
Issued: 1984
Price: Sorry. This plate has now been sold.

When it comes to one of the most important and impressive number plates ever issued this must surely rank as one of the best. It was specially issued by the Irish Government in 1984 to commemorate the Pope’s visit, and entered the UK market through an auction shortly afterwards.

The initials VIP are quite rare, but the fact that it stands for Very Important Person puts it in a completely different class. Especially when you consider that there were no other registrations issued with these initials.

If you feel you have achieved a certain status in life through hard work and endeavour you surely deserve the best and should you wish to tell the world this is the registration with which to do it.


Should that not be 1979???

You can't believe all you read on the internet! The reg companies description is rubbish, yes the very first time that VIP 1 was issued was in Ireland. But as Junkyard points out it was in the 60's or 70´s on a Jag (which is probably now holding baked beans in a Tesco's near you!).

However for the Pope's visit to the UK in 1982 DVLA Swansea issued this number in the UK. Unfortunately I can't find a newspaper archive from 1982 to referance to authenticate this.

If I was in the back of a truck with more than a million people trying to get at me I think a more appropriate plate would be OBO 110X illegally spaced as O BOLL0X of course!

MercMad

I do know of two cases where numbers from muchj older scrapped cars appeared on modern cars, I know a guy with "EI 1" on a mid 80's Merc and another in Limerick with a number dating back to around 1903 !!

Dunno how they didi it though !

Our man in Havana

I think under the pre 87 system numbers were recycled. Actually I think it was a nessesity as some places were almost out of numbers at one stage.

PauloMN

That Corolla reg is so sad, I'm embarrassed even looking at it...

It's also illegal on so many counts.

zilog_jones

Yes, VIP was allocated to Kilkenny in a 1965 amendment to S.I. 30, although I dunno if any were issued, or if they were issued as "nnn VIP" or "VIP nnn".

AFAIK and according to the Wikipedia article on Irish plates, up until 1987 they were technically part of the British system so no Irish plates clashed with any British plates.

Also, apparently, pre-'87 Irish plates could be transferred as normal in the UK (I assume only if the Irish vehicle holding the plate was de-registered), but no transfers are allowed at all within the Republic just like with the modern plates - not sure how true that last part is exactly.

Hmm, I wonder if it's possible to get a pre-'87 car, buy a pre-'87 Irish plate in the UK and get it registered there, and use that plate legitimately in Ireland? I think it'd be nice to offer the old plates to suitably old cars (imports or whatever) in Ireland - modern plates on old cars just looks silly (I saw an old Merc with these, and the rear one was painted red - horrible!), and the ZV plates can't last forever (not to mention they don't cover cars under 25 years old).

Also, anyone know what they did with imports before '87? Did they just give them the latest sequence plate from that county/city, or give them special letters? I remember seeing an old late '70s/early '80s Toyota Crown with old plates and Japanese-size plate holders, but maybe the official exports were like that?

ninty9er wrote:

Ever noticed the ones where the sequence is one county and the placename a neighbouring one
Luimneach
(XX-CE-XXXX)

I'd say what happened was they got the plates made in Limerick, but they had no clare stickers, or all their plates had Luimneach pre-printed on them. I've seen this too.

Do-more

zilog_jones wrote:

apparently, pre-'87 Irish plates could be transferred as normal in the UK

Pity I didn't know this before! I remember sitting in traffic in London years back and this guy got out of his car and was knocking on the window, nearly having a seizure, wanting to buy the plale off the van we were in, 65 ALI, guess his name was ali!

I'm sure a rich old farmer called MacDonald would give big money for the old Clare reg. EIE 10....

IrishRover

Really interesting thread. I like how often on this forum a thread can start from a fairly ordinary question and go off on a very informative tangent.

MercMad

Yes, VIP was allocated to Kilkenny in a 1965 amendment to S.I. 30, although I dunno if any were issued, or if they were issued as "nnn VIP" or "VIP nnn".

...........we had a 1970/71 Capri registered in Kilkenny new as VIP 771 !

Also, anyone know what they did with imports before '87? Did they just give them the latest sequence plate from that county/city, or give them special letters? I remember seeing an old late '70s/early '80s Toyota Crown with old plates and Japanese-size plate holders, but maybe the official exports were like that?

.........yeah you just got the latest plate, so your 1975 car could end up with a 1985 reg number if that was when you imported it !

It would be nice to get the actual facts, though I doubt you can transfer anything now, one of the reasons for the new system was to make everything easier, they wonht go back. They dont even like folk changing their 70 D XXX for ZV YYY

G Luxel

I do remember two Toyota crowns from the 80s, both were New Imports, one had a ZE regd I think around 86 and the other was register 87 D.
As for VIP 1, it was sold in the UK. Amazing that they dont have to change their plates over there when it comes to IReland, but if we buy a car over there, we have to change them. So the DVLA broke their own rules and registered the Popemobile to some unknown part of the UK with IP.
The same is said of classic car imports with SV and SU, they all appear to be registered in the same part of Scotland.

I wonder about plates such as 20 GLI and maybe 300 ZX. Were these ever issued. Other plates i could think of is XX - D- 521 as in Citroen and maybe
0 5LK 300 as in mercedes

Our man in Havana

20 GLI is on a merc.
300 ZX is on an Audi 100

Sorry to dissapoint you but 05 LK 300 is on a Ford Focus.

ninty9er

Does that mean all cars on current plates but older than 87 are imports or rebuilds

Our man in Havana

ninty9er wrote:

Does that mean all cars on current plates but older than 87 are imports or rebuilds

Yes indeedy.

ninty9er

Bond-007 wrote:

Sorry to dissapoint you but 05 LK 300 is on a Ford Focus.

Is there something in that I'm missing???

So are 06-LK-21 and 06-KE-21 Both silver zetecs. I can see a speed camera issue there:D

Guy:Incognito

Whats with 05 lk 300? would it not be better to have 05 lk 200, 280, 350 or 55 to correspond with engine sizes?

Silvera

I too would love to see old registrations (pre 87) issued again.

A few counties had/have lots of old plates which were never issued, e.g. Carlow has 23,976 unissued combinations.

I wrote a letter to the minister back in 2003 suggesting the re-issue of old regs (i.e. unissued combinations and regs from scrapped cars) but he wrote back basically saying they were not interested in doing so. Pity.



Old Irish registrations could be transferred to the UK register up until the early 80's and thousands of old Irish regs are now in use in the UK as personalised plates.

Examples (plus UK Prices)

IE 4724 (£2,595)
1 IR (£39,295)
IT 1 (£82,000)
FBI 660 (£9,750)
OZO 616 (£600)
7575 NI (£2,595)

Do-more

Silvera wrote:

Old Irish registrations could be transferred to the UK register up until the early 80's and thousands of old Irish regs are now in use in the UK as personalised plates.

Pity you can't still transfer them, I'm sure Jordan would pay a fortune to have her Bentley convertible adorned with the Leitrim plate TIT 5 ! lol.

Do-more

Just been in Sweden for a few days and spotted these...

This guy, not content with shredding his money by buying a large Citroen, then went out and got the C6 plate for it!



You don't even have to have numbers in your plate in Sweden, here's one...

MercMad

The story I heard is that when they changed onto the computer system in Jan 1991, and issued the VLC/VRC instead of the old brown logbooks, they were instructed to replace any brown logbooks that came in for re-taxing with newer certificates.

This way they had a list of current 'old' cars that were on the road currently taxed also on computer. It was their way of updating the system. However a lot of offices did not do that, AND a lot of people objected to having their books withdrawn, so it basically went t1ts up !

Since a lot of logbooks didn't contain current info, and a lot of cars were laid up, they could never be absolutely sure if a car had been destroyed or not. I was told back when we were doing the first scrappage scheme that if you had a current logbook in your name AND a certificate of destruction from an authorised scrapyard that you could apply to have the number moved onto a vehicle that was pre-1987.

I never heard of anyone who tried, succeeded or failed !

Anyone know when "ZV" plates started ??

G Luxel

Stekelly wrote:

He isnt using it in ireland though is he.

this quote refers to VIP I , but i cant understand how an Irish Number
is Legal to use in the UK when there is no area in the UK with I or Z except
for Northern Ireland??? I remember seeing a UK regd Ford Galaxy with the
number VIP 8. I wonder is this an irish plate abroad?

G Luxel

ZV must have appeared in the old system as theres a car near where I lived
regd PZV.

i dont like that style of plate on old cars, to me it means they are all imported
and going to shows nearly every car is a ZV number and these out number
the home grown sold as new period classics. Now there are ZV with 5 digits
and even that style doesnt look authentic for a country that had only a max
of 4 digits with 2 characters ie HI 6989

G Luxel

so Ireland must be unique in the whole world where our old plates system can be legit in the UK and that wont go down too well with regions such as the Isle of Man and the channel Islands and all the other commonwealth or ex colony countries whose residients, if they decide to live in the UK and bring their car with them, would have to re register them there.

MercMad

Well I wonder what documents were/are needed to transfer what was an Irish republic plate, and why the Irish republic cant do it ??

BTW plates with the format *ZV 123 (where * is a digit A-X) were used in Dublin on new cars registered in 1995-Jan 1996 !

Ernie Ball

Informative thread!

One question I still have though: suppose you have a car with registration from an uncool county that shall remain nameless and you live in bustling, superhip Dublin. Is there any way to get a D reg on that car?

Yes, I am that shallow.:o

unkel

MercMad wrote:

BTW plates with the format *ZV 123 (where * is a digit A-X) were used in Dublin on new cars registered in 1995-Jan 1996 !

I take it you mean 1985-Jan 1986?

zilog_jones

Ernie Ball wrote:

One question I still have though: suppose you have a car with registration from an uncool county that shall remain nameless and you live in bustling, superhip Dublin. Is there any way to get a D reg on that car?

AFAIK it's impossible to transfer post-'87 plates in any way.

Actually, what would happen if you have a car registered in Ireland, then take it to another country and get it registered there, *then* bring it back here and re-register it again? Would you get your old reg back, or be re-issued with a new one (with correct year of course)? I can assume that doesn't happen a lot