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Who is the most successful player on this

  • 28-07-2006 7:44pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 47


    Who's advice is the most educated and can be trusted the most - controversial and could start a riot but could not resist

    I heard Gholimoli


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    How are you going to judge "sucess"... most money made? Best tournie results? The question is unanswerable.

    Listen to the reasoning , decide for yourself if it makes sense and take it on board. The history of the player typing it makes no difference.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 sixpac911


    Lets put it at tourney wins


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭wayfarer


    but i only play cash games... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭White Knight


    I AM tiger woods :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Personally I've no idea who has the most tournament wins on this site - I'm more of an online cash game player myself - but remember as well even the best players may not necessarily put across advice very well either.

    You mention Gholimoli - I've been involved in a few posts with Gholimoli and while I haven't always agreed with him though by and large I have done he does present his arguments very well so yeah defo be good to read his posts.

    Hectorjelly also seems fairly on the ball to me, Devore too, there's plenty of others but I'm half knackered now so alias's not readily coming to mind - to be honest most of the regulars here understand poker - opinioins do vary on the gray areas, also even if you don't agree with what they're saying no harm on seeing what other people are thinking.

    At the end of the day no one player or group of players have a monopoly on good or bad advice so as Devore says 'Listen to the reasoning, decide for yourself if it makes sense and take it on board. '


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Rnger


    luckylucky wrote:
    Personally I've no idea who has the most tournament wins on this site - I'm more of an online cash game player myself - but remember as well even the best players may not necessarily put across advice very well either.

    You mention Gholimoli - I've been involved in a few posts with Gholimoli and while I haven't always agreed with him though by and large I have done he does present his arguments very well so yeah defo be good to read his posts.

    Hectorjelly also seems fairly on the ball to me, Devore too, there's plenty of others but I'm half knackered now so alias's not readily coming to mind - to be honest most of the regulars here understand poker - opinioins do vary on the gray areas, also even if you don't agree with what they're saying no harm on seeing what other people are thinking.

    At the end of the day no one player or group of players have a monopoly on good or bad advice so as Devore says 'Listen to the reasoning, decide for yourself if it makes sense and take it on board. '

    What a load of bs! I'm the best!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,250 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Look we all know its Amaru.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    This is a silly question. I doubt any poster is going to post up his winnings to date. Although the obvious answer is me since all my PT numbers are green.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭califano


    I AM tiger woods :p

    This is true. If White Knight raises just fold. If he re-raises fold showing KK!.Im serious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭ROONEY_DIVES


    White Knight!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭califano


    White Knight!!!

    Yeah!. He's one of the the rockiest rocks ive ever come up against. He's done me in the regency and the fitz with aces so many times and other players too. I dont think ive ever seen him going all in behind, even as short stack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭ROONEY_DIVES


    Ok he gets my vote so :)


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,864 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Ok he gets my vote so :)
    Family ties and all that, eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭ROONEY_DIVES


    :eek: To be fair if ur going by thepokerdb.com then fabsoul is da best, followed by me.... but ill stick with White Knight :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    :eek: To be fair if ur going by thepokerdb.com then fabsoul is da best, followed by me.... but ill stick with White Knight :p
    Do you know White Knight personally?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭White Knight


    I know White Kinght ... nice lad he is too! ;)

    Does not get to play as much live as he would like but Rock image is one he works on alright .. good to see other players like aidan noticing!!

    Might as well add something constructive to the OP while I am here....

    I have been reading the poker forum for must be at least 2 years now and am only recently a poster in the last few months. The forum has opened my eyes to strategy, maths, tournaments, poker community and some decent people too. Poker is a game that can be played on so many levels, not just stakes wise but talent, charisma, stupidity levels too!!

    The "best" player on this forum is ..... noone! Everyone that posts here will have attributes that would belong in the all time best poker player of the universe! And even that player will get outdrawn and busted from the majority of tournaments played. We all respect individual pros like ivey, hellmuth, andy black etc etc and in a similar fashion we have a respect for players we play with live ourselves. But the very nature of poker is to have respect for ALL players but to believe you are the best yourself. Believe you can reraise a player preflop and get him to put down his hand, believe you can outplay a player on the flop, believe you can bluff a player off a big pot! I always think to myself that you have to believe in yourself and have patience. 2 key attributes of many required but 2 i focus on!

    Success is something different for everyone. As in "real life" your successes and goals are relevant to you. you should not judge yourself against anyone elses successes. Whats the point really? whos got the biggest di** ... I know people who play 10/20 NL and i know players who play .02/.04 stakes. If they came to me and said they won a tournament/cash in a ring game id be equally congratulatory for each of them.

    To poster... if you had have asked the Q .. what players on board you respect and why, you would have gotten a lot more (important and relevant) info on people who post here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭White Knight


    :eek: To be fair if ur going by thepokerdb.com then fabsoul is da best, followed by me.... but ill stick with White Knight :p

    How much do u want?! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭White Knight


    sixpac911 wrote:
    Who's advice is the most educated and can be trusted the most - controversial and could start a riot

    Roryc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    It's virtually impossible to judge.

    If it's on money won in tourney's then surley it has to be flipper?

    is he the most succesfull player on boards?

    or one of our new additions in padraig parkinson ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭Doc Farrell


    ntlbell wrote:
    It's virtually impossible to judge.

    If it's on money won in tourney's then surley it has to be flipper?

    is he the most succesfull player on boards?

    or one of our new additions in padraig parkinson ?

    the majority of the players who win big, lose big.

    therefore the definition of success must be the one who not only enjoys winning the most but who uses those winnings to make his life even more enjoyable, even if it sometimes means giving most of it away.
    that's the only success worth experiencing.
    now, has anyone a loan of a fiver?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    the majority of the players who win big, lose big.

    therefore the definition of success must be the one who not only enjoys winning the most but who uses those winnings to make his life even more enjoyable, even if it sometimes means giving most of it away.
    that's the only success worth experiencing.
    now, has anyone a loan of a fiver?

    I will make a modest claim to be the best speechplayer here :cool:

    unfortunately my appalling level of poker skill somewhat negates this advantage :(

    Norwich Fan Rob and Mr Pillow Talk probably making the most money that I can see if that helps the OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    :eek: To be fair if ur going by thepokerdb.com then fabsoul is da best, followed by me.... but ill stick with White Knight :p

    why on earth would you use thepokerdb to measure success?

    it only counts tournament wins,which isn't really indicitive of a players success /poker skill anyway (if it was steve dannenman would be top ten players of all time) and it also doesn't include the tribeca network,which most of this site seems to play on,and loads of other sites...

    you're only mentioning it cause you come out close to the top if that was the measure,i've got more than twice your tourney cashes on other sites and wouldn't even think to mention myself as the most successful player on the site based on this,to be honest a good 1/2 nl player makes more in a year than your total,and is a better player too...



    if you're measuring success by money,then, excluding the couple of big name players who've posted the odd message up,i would presume mrpillowtalk is the most successful of all the regular posters,since he seems to have been consistently successful at 5/10 and 10/20 nl for a while now (from what i can gather)
    two questions were asked in the op though,most successful and whose advice you should listen to
    though mr pillow talk is probably the most successful,the posters who give the best advice are fuzzbox,hectorjelly and roundtower,and its not even close (no offence to mrpillowtalk,but i just haven't noticed as many really good strategy/theory posts from him as much as the others mentioned,which is not to say he's not as good a player,he may well be better than all three)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Well said Robin. Totally agree.

    On a lighter note,
    Did you manage to get your tea bags?:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    Lazare wrote:
    Well said Robin. Totally agree.

    On a lighter note,
    Did you manage to get your tea bags?:D


    lol
    i did yeah,thanks to pat (carigeen)
    i got some funny looks at my world series table when the guy next to me ordered tea and i ordered boiling water with milk and sugar and took a teabag out of my bag!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭Lazare


    robinlacey wrote:
    lol
    i did yeah,thanks to pat (carigeen)
    i got some funny looks at my world series table when the guy next to me ordered tea and i ordered boiling water with milk and sugar and took a teabag out of my bag!

    LOL, that should sure tilt'em.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭White Knight


    robinlacey wrote:
    why on earth would you use thepokerdb to measure success?

    it only counts tournament wins,which isn't really indicitive of a players success /poker skill anyway (if it was steve dannenman would be top ten players of all time) and it also doesn't include the tribeca network,which most of this site seems to play on,and loads of other sites...

    you're only mentioning it cause you come out close to the top if that was the measure,i've got more than twice your tourney cashes on other sites and wouldn't even think to mention myself as the most successful player on the site based on this,to be honest a good 1/2 nl player makes more in a year than your total,and is a better player too...

    Why not quote something along the lines of the pokerdb??? It is a factual representation of how successful he has been in the period it represents on the site. And even if he is only mentioning it because he is near top does that mean because he is not being modest he cant be successful? Why shoot him down like that?? No need at all. It is more factual than some posters who post about their winnings but rarely hear of their losses! There are other such sites out their for other networks tournaments too.

    No one in this thread defined what defined the most successful on Boards in the context of the OP .. in particular the poster himself.

    In terms of advice ... I enjoy the analysis of fuzzbox, gholimoli etc etc and it gives a great insight in to their thinking as good players. All players that use this boards facility should use it as a learning tool ... There are times I wont agree with their line of thought but thats what debate is for .. Debate can also change others views if held in the right spirit (complete opposite spirit to Rooney and Hector:D) and can help enlighten and improve all our games! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    Why not quote something along the lines of the pokerdb??? It is a factual representation of how successful he has been in the period it represents on the site. And even if he is only mentioning it because he is near top does that mean because he is not being modest he cant be successful? Why shoot him down like that?? No need at all. It is more factual than some posters who post about their winnings but rarely hear of their losses! There are other such sites out their for other networks tournaments too.
    :D

    you obviously didn't understand my post because the answers to your questions were all explained with it..also,no need to react to this so emotionally,i'm not trying to start a flame war,my post was factual...

    the reason to not quote thepokerdb is because it only represents tournament winnings on the biggest sites,and rooney dives wasn't even quoting that,he was quoting only pokerstars results,because that is the site he plays on!
    if you are seriously suggesting that the most successful player on this site should be measured solely by who has the most winnings in pokerstars tournaments then i don't even know how i should explain things to you...

    i wasn't trying to shoot rooneydives down to hurt his feelings,but his post was ridiculous-to suggest that online tournament poker is a greater measure of skill than online cash or live cash/tournament play is crazy,and for him to say that success should be measured within the field in which he has had some (extremely modest) success is pretty lame...


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Here's my only way of answering the question. There are people who's name beside a post makes me stop and read it. I guess that means something regarding my opinion of their analysis. In no particular order Fuzzbox, Hector, Marq (partly because he's a good cash gamer and partly because he's a funny fooker), ROONEY_DIVES, Gholimoli (cos he makes me stop and think), MR PT and there are others but its 1.30am in Vegas so my head is a mess.

    I stand by my opinion that the biggest donkey can say the truest things and if you simply dismiss it because he's a donkey rather then because its bollox , its like presuming he doesnt have aces in the BB because he's a muppet. Both are mistakes by you.

    DeV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭marius


    DeVore wrote:
    I stand by my opinion that the biggest donkey can say the truest things.......
    DeV.

    In that case I vote for me.....followed by Amaru....:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    marius wrote:
    In that case I vote for me.....followed by Amaru....:D

    as a fairly recent devotee of Boards can someone please tell me who this Amaru dude is?

    he seems to have a bit of a cult following!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭AmarilloFats


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    Almighty Dollar, banknote, bankroll, beans, bill, boodle, bread*, bucks*, cabbage, capital, cash, check, chicamin, chips, coin, coinage, dinero, dough*, ducats, filthy lucre, finances, fund, funds, gold, gravy*, green, green stuff, greenback*, hard cash*, jack, kitty, legal tender, long green, loot*, lucre, mazuma, moolah, pay, payment, pesos*, property, resources, riches, roll, salary, scratch, silver, skin, specie, sugar, treasure, wad*, wage, wampum, wealth, wherewithal*

    you forgot wonga

    point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭marius


    as a fairly recent devotee of Boards can someone please tell me who this Amaru dude is?

    he seems to have a bit of a cult following!

    He had a prop bet that he could win 5 (STT) tournaments in a row - despite being told it was almost impossible. He had a good spell last year before christmas and thought he was probably the best poker player ever....it was all very humorous...he hasn't been seen for a while....

    Have a look for the prop bet thread....it was a cracker...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    marius wrote:
    He had a prop bet that he could win 5 (STT) tournaments in a row - despite being told it was almost impossible. He had a good spell last year before christmas and thought he was probably the best poker player ever....it was all very humorous...he hasn't been seen for a while....

    Have a look for the prop bet thread....it was a cracker...

    It's linked from the WIKI: http://www.boards.ie/wiki/index.php/Board:Poker


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman



    lol, what a dunkey!! (as we like to say in Meath):)

    did he pay up in the end?

    the donkiest part of all was taking only 10/1!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭AmarilloFats


    you forgot wonga

    point?

    My point is; in poker, success = money = success..
    Lots of intangibles are good for muddying the waters..
    ...have great life/poker balance
    Are well known in the poker world
    respected poster...But just like in the littlest mermaid - clams talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    My point is; in poker, success = money = success..
    Lots of intangibles are good for muddying the waters..
    ...have great life/poker balance
    Are well known in the poker world
    respected poster...But just like in the littlest mermaid - clams talk.

    a good point well wrapped up in crazy-ass metaphysical sh!te!!

    lay off the disco biscuits at weekends....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    Hi, keep it polite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    lafortezza wrote:
    Hi, keep it polite.

    yessir


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭Iceman78


    I am mainly a tourney player, both MTT and STT's. Due to this the people i look for comments from on here would be mainly Gholi, Mr PT, Norwich Fan Rob and a few others who all do well in tourneys.

    In cash games, there are numerous others who seem to be very knowledgeable and helpful like Fuzz, HJ and Fastmachine.

    Im sure there are a fair few winning players on here but it would be nigh on impossible to pick the best.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,864 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Well I split 2 live tournaments yesterday, so logic says it must be me.

    Anyways......... as I think was said before, there are lots of people here who each contribute in their own ways to this forum. There are some very good players who rarely post detailed analysis/thinking but this does not mean they are not good players. As for the rest, there are a few standout posters, but lots of others contribute in some helpful way too (even me occasionally I think).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    dont ever listen to my advice...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,211 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    I don't know about anyone else but I read everyone's post and just try to sponge it all up!

    Edit - 5000 wootage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭califano


    Iceman78 wrote:
    the people i look for comments from on here would be mainly Gholi, Mr PT, Norwich Fan Rob

    In cash games, there are numerous others who seem to be very knowledgeable and helpful like Fuzz, HJ and Fastmachine.


    Yeah we should all just listen to these:) . I love these statements, encourages everyone else to post!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    awww... no-ones mentioned me yet.... the reason for the bad beat threat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    robinlacey wrote:
    two questions were asked in the op though,most successful and whose advice you should listen to
    though mr pillow talk is probably the most successful,the posters who give the best advice are fuzzbox,hectorjelly and roundtower,and its not even close (no offence to mrpillowtalk,but i just haven't noticed as many really good strategy/theory posts from him as much as the others mentioned,which is not to say he's not as good a player,he may well be better than all three)

    I sometimes wonder does Mr PT not post on many strategy threads because he doesn't want to give up any free information on his style of play?

    Everyone knows the obvious outstanding posters, but if you mainly play tourneys on the local Dublin scene then some of the best advice comes from the unsung guys like OllyK1, 5starpool and a few more, who know these games very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    roryc wrote:
    awww... no-ones mentioned me yet.... the reason for the bad beat threat

    Roryc

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    I sometimes wonder does Mr PT not post on many strategy threads because he doesn't want to give up any free information on his style of play?

    You could be right, Devore has stated before a similar reason for not posting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭jimbling


    I'm a complete fish... and give terrible advice. I just continuously get lucky.
    If you ask me, thats the best way to play poker :p


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