Website for M50 upgrade project - M50.ie

darkman2

It will be launched shortly. Good that they are doing that actually its going to be needed.

Here is the site:

www.M50.ie

Bluetonic

Lets hope they don't need to migrate the website to a larger server due to the amount of traffic after launch!

Chris_533976

Bluetonic wrote:

Lets hope they don't need to migrate the website to a larger server due to the amount of traffic after launch!

heh not bad

mustang68

They spelt motorway wrong :eek:

Ap

Must be professional website designers...

Like these ones:
Spellchecker firm corrects typo in its own press-release

Tom Dunne

Bluetonic wrote:

Lets hope they don't need to migrate the website to a larger server due to the amount of traffic after launch!

No, this website will be fine.

If you use it between 10:00pm and 5:00am, that is.

darkman2

mustang68 wrote:

They spelt motorway wrong :eek:

huh?

Anyhow I hope the website is actually informative unlike a certain port tunnel website I could mention:mad:

Alun

mustang68 wrote:

They spelt motorway wrong :eek:

So they did! All credit for this goes to ...

<meta name="author" content="Loman Cusack Design">

Vorsprung

darkman2 wrote:

huh?

Anyhow I hope the website is actually informative unlike a certain port tunnel website I could mention:mad:

Voila

Victor

Ahem http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.m50.ie%2F+m50&meta=

It looks likes its just a rebranding / rebuilding of the N7 site.

http://www.n7.ie/

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darkman2

Victor wrote:

Ahem http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.m50.ie%2F+m50&meta=

It looks likes its just a rebranding / rebuilding of the N7 site.

http://www.n7.ie/

No its definatley the site for the upgrade. It was the N7 site about a year ago, then took you directly to the NRA.:)

Hotblack Desiato

mustang68 wrote:

They spelt motorway wrong :eek:

'Mororway' is how a lot of people pronounce it, so what's the problem?

darkman2

Just saw a notice in todays paper.......60km/h speed limit applies to the N4 - Ballymount section from tomorrow for 1 year:eek: Thank god I hardly ever use that route!! Having said that is a reduction in speed limit going to make a difference anyway!?!:D

murphaph

darkman2 wrote:

Having said that is a reduction in speed limit going to make a difference anyway!?!:D

It may have a positive effect. They claimed the traffic actually flowed better on the N7 during the works due to the lower limit reducing 'bunching' or somesuch.

darkman2

murphaph wrote:

It may have a positive effect. They claimed the traffic actually flowed better on the N7 during the works due to the lower limit reducing 'bunching' or somesuch.

Possibly. I didnt really use the N7 whilst under construction.

Does anyone know if they are actually altering the lanes tomorrow. I know the layout of the N4 interchange will change dramatically in the next few weeks:rolleyes:

mackerski

murphaph wrote:

It may have a positive effect. They claimed the traffic actually flowed better on the N7 during the works due to the lower limit reducing 'bunching' or somesuch.

Generally a lower limit would cause bunching. Though since the 60 limit on the Naas Road is so widely ignored, I suppose you get a natural spread between the speeders and the scaredy-cats.

Dermot

godtabh

On the news the lad from the NRA said its only really gona effect off peak travel as the avearge speed limit during peaks times is only about 10kph (cant remember the exact speed but its low)

darkman2

Here is an image of an alternative look to the N7 interchange. (may look a tad small, this image). Id prefer this setup tbh.

http://www.arup.ie/projects/images/m502.jpg




N4 interchange. This work has to be done in a fairly confined space.

darkman2

The website seems to be up and running now:)

www.m50.ie

bringitdown

Still not fixed the speeling mestake tho!

darkman2

bringitdown wrote:

Still not fixed the speeling mestake tho!

Yes and also for some reason they have some sections in Spanish

Alun

darkman2 wrote:

Yes and also for some reason they have some sections in Spanish

What, like the external link to a Spanish company! Whatever next?

darkman2

http://www.m50.ie/pages/ballymount-after.htm This is not the external link.

http://www.m50.ie/pages/n4-after.htm

Ap

bringitdown wrote:

Still not fixed the speeling mestake tho!

NEWSFLASH: 7 days after going live they have now managed to correct the spelling mistake!

Chris_533976

If you look through the website there are so many typos, bits left out, missing links etc. Its quite hilarious

Alun

darkman2 wrote:

http://www.m50.ie/pages/ballymount-after.htm This is not the external link.

http://www.m50.ie/pages/n4-after.htm

Looks like English to me ?

darkman2

Alun wrote:

Looks like English to me ?

WTF! They must have just fixed it because they had an 'overveiw' underneath of the junctions and it was in spanish

Alun

darkman2 wrote:

WTF! They must have just fixed it because they had an 'overveiw' underneath of the junctions and it was in spanish

It's almost as if someone from the website designers is looking in here

Andrew Duffy

In that case can you fix the JavaScript error on every page in IE6?

italicfountain

Alun wrote:

It's almost as if someone from the website designers is looking in here

I believe they are!

nordydan

Is there any real need for a M50 upgrade?? Seems a waste of money.

I thought the government had plans to stick a quality bus corridor in here and maybe reduced the M50 to one car lane in each direction. This would certainly encourage commuters to use public transport, given rising fuel prices and uncertainty in the Middle East this would have been the sensible option IMHO.

darkman2

nordydan wrote:

Is there any real need for a M50 upgrade??

In a word - yes.

Chris_533976

The link to 'N7 after' is missing from here ->

http://www.m50.ie/pages/n7.htm

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Dunno what that is.

http://www.m50.ie/pages/overview.htm

The proposed upgrade will reduce traffic congestion and provide significant time savings for the estimated xxx,xxx motorists who use these sections of the M50.

lol

Alun

Chris_533976 wrote:

Dunno what that is.

It's "filler text" used when a section isn't ready yet ... see http://lipsum.com .

darkman2

Chris_533976 wrote:

The link to 'N7 after' is missing from here ->


( http://www.m50.ie/pages/n7-after.htm )







lol

Thats a different design to the proposed N7 interchange!! Im confused now. Is that the design they are going ahead with or not. I would think its probrably not.

jmkennedyie

It seems the page Chris found is just a placeholder. I'm with you darkman2 - the approved N7 junction I am expecting has a large bridge span that brings Southbound traffic on the M50 up and over the entire junction and then back down onto the N7 Westbound. Details on the EIS on SDCC website.

I think the graphics explaining the traffic phases at the various junctions is a nice touch. I will sleep a bit better when I see that they have a plan for the N7

darkman2

jmkennedyie wrote:

It seems the page Chris found is just a placeholder. I'm with you darkman2 - the approved N7 junction I am expecting has a large bridge span that brings Southbound traffic on the M50 up and over the entire junction and then back down onto the N7 Westbound. Details on the EIS on SDCC website.

I think the graphics explaining the traffic phases at the various junctions is a nice touch. I will sleep a bit better when I see that they have a plan for the N7

The graphics are useful. Particularly where it shows how they will construct the 3rd and 4th lanes. The same technique that was used on the N7. The hard shoulder and left hand lane will be the two lanes primarily used by motorists during construction.

The interchange im certain has the flyover you mention. I dont think they would move the Luas tracks. A bit too disruptive I would have thought.:)

daymobrew

Ap wrote:

NEWSFLASH: 7 days after going live they have now managed to correct the spelling mistake!

I emailed them 7 days ago so it's not as if they didn't know about the typo. Didn't even reply to me. :rolleyes:

I'm not a fan of the lane 4 between interchanges, unless it is a decent length. You will have people accelerating to get onto the mainline and people slowing down to exit. We've all seen how long it takes some people to get up to speed when they enter the M50.
There were a few very short interchange lanes in California when I lived there and they were scary.

darkman2

daymobrew wrote:

I emailed them 7 days ago so it's not as if they didn't know about the typo. Didn't even reply to me. :rolleyes:

I'm not a fan of the lane 4 between interchanges, unless it is a decent length. You will have people accelerating to get onto the mainline and people slowing down to exit. We've all seen how long it takes some people to get up to speed when they enter the M50.
There were a few very short interchange lanes in California when I lived there and they were scary.

For the more inexperienced motorist maybe the lane setup is more daunting but they work in Los Angelus very effectively I thought. Also in LA they actually have traffic lights on some slip roads to regulate traffic flow - an idea perhaps?

mackerski

daymobrew wrote:

I'm not a fan of the lane 4 between interchanges, unless it is a decent length.

But we know what the lengths will be, since the junctions already exist. If anything, the new lane (and we really shouldn't call it lane 4) will cause people to be even slower getting up to speed than now, since they'll be under no compulsion to merge. It should also remove the urge for mainline traffic to change lane just because there's a junction coming up.

Dermot

PS: Also, as I mentioned before, it means the new silly gantries will be accurate for once.

Chris_533976

darkman2 wrote:

Thats a different design to the proposed N7 interchange!! Im confused now. Is that the design they are going ahead with or not. I would think its probrably not.

Interesting. I dont think its a placeholder though. Look at the 2 pages.

This page is live and accessible through the links on the site ->

http://www.m50.ie/pages/n7.htm

Proposed page I found ->

http://www.m50.ie/pages/n7-after.htm

If you flick between the two pages all the buildings beside the interchange match up. Seems this must be what they're going with, unless someone has cocked up somewhere

Edit: I cant find the older, top down pic of the Red Cow interchange upgrade as was published in a huge PDF document awhile back. Anyone got that so we can compare?

mysterious

Chris_533976 wrote:

Interesting. I dont think its a placeholder though. Look at the 2 pages.

This page is live and accessible through the links on the site ->

http://www.m50.ie/pages/n7.htm

Proposed page I found ->

http://www.m50.ie/pages/n7-after.htm

If you flick between the two pages all the buildings beside the interchange match up. Seems this must be what they're going with, unless someone has cocked up somewhere

Edit: I cant find the older, top down pic of the Red Cow interchange upgrade as was published in a huge PDF document awhile back. Anyone got that so we can compare?

Chris is that taking the pis? the second link is an actual free flow type N7, which is pretty well designed. Not a free flowing type there are supposedly building now. It would be wise if they could build it as that tho. IMO don't think it would make much of a difference cost wise anyway which even if they go ahead with a free flow type, since the existing bridges are all used and the luas bridge is even taken into a account. and the third tier M50 to Limerick/Naas bound will not be a high either. The luas glides under all movement just like M50 NB onto city road. Pretty good designes..

2billion in the excheqer, where's all the billions going since 2002?

PhilipFromBosco

Looking at the proposed N7 interchange photo, I don't see how westbound traffic is routed to the northbound M50. It looks as if it enters a tunnel but I cannot see where this leads to. Does anyone have answer for this.

I remember the days of cycling on my bike from the Red Cow to Donnybrook rehearsing my lines, tight jeans and all.

Ta me ufaseach

mysterious

PhilipFromBosco wrote:

Looking at the proposed N7 interchange photo, I don't see how westbound traffic is routed to the northbound M50. It looks as if it enters a tunnel but I cannot see where this leads to. Does anyone have answer for this.

I remember the days of cycling on my bike from the Red Cow to Donnybrook rehearsing my lines, tight jeans and all.

Ta me ufaseach

the far side bridge leading west going into the tunnel seems to have no purpose, as R110 traffic is already looped on the mainline section. Seriously is this some sort of practical joke?

darkman2

mysterious wrote:

the far side bridge leading west going into the tunnel seems to have no purpose, as R110 traffic is already looped on the mainline section. Seriously is this some sort of practical joke?

Id imagine that was an alternate design that was considered. The design chosen is different.

mysterious

darkman2 wrote:

Id imagine that was an alternate design that was considered. The design chosen is different.

I'd believe if I see it. Though the outside single lane bridge seems to join the luas section - ends?

Anyway on the website it's states partial free flow, and this is full free flowing. It's an ingenious layout considering the space and tight curves etc.

So it's not going ahead as that considered plan, whoever depleted it, is a fool

darkman2

mysterious wrote:

I'd believe if I see it. Though the outside single lane bridge seems to join the luas section - ends?

Anyway on the website it's states partial free flow, and this is full free flowing. It's an ingenious layout considering the space and tight curves etc.

The vast majority of the chosen layout is freeflow anyway.

Just a thought on the N4 (which is entirely freeflow) - anyone notice that there is only one lane crossing east to west on the N4 when completed!?

Also the N3 layout (phase 2 next year) is quite striking, completely freeflow aswell. Although why the N7 didnt deserve that treatment I dont know

darkman2

mysterious wrote:

I'd believe if I see it. Though the outside single lane bridge seems to join the luas section - ends?

Anyway on the website it's states partial free flow, and this is full free flowing. It's an ingenious layout considering the space and tight curves etc.

So it's not going ahead as that considered plan, whoever depleted it, is a fool

It has to be said also the chosen layout is just as good on most approaches particularly the flyover.

mysterious

darkman2 wrote:

It has to be said also the chosen layout is just as good on most approaches particularly the flyover.

Sure:rolleyes:

darkman2

mysterious wrote:

Sure:rolleyes:

Seriously it is. Take the luas out and it would be perfect.

mysterious

darkman2 wrote:

Seriously it is. Take the luas out and it would be perfect.

Erm. it still wouldn't.

Edit: go look at the redicolous arrangements again, M50 third tier flyover cannot access the luas park and ride.

But the considering the free flow option, it would, M50 northbound would not inflict city road nass bound either.. Fianna fail are hiding the extra money that is why the crappy option went ahead. Or else they "are" actually reconsidering the design, as it would be a big mistake if they go ahead as planned partial free flow. It makes money sense longterm, and hense not wasting extra money.