Is it wrong to buy pirate dvds?

#Smokey#

Do you think it is wrong to buy pirated dvds?

Caliden

No

Piracy is bad, mmmk?

#Smokey#

Maybe

Piracy is bad.but so is payin €30 to go the pictures to see a supposedly good film that was really sh*te

28064212

No

#Smokey# wrote:

...payin €30 to go the pictures ...

Where the hell are you going to the pictures?

Maybe

I don't buy pirate dvds. I don't download movies. But I don't think theres anything wrong with it. Or at least it isn't as bad as they try to make it out to be.

Yaaarrr.

Tha Gopher

Hell no. When I was 16/17 selling copied CDs was all I had to fund a social life. Brought in maybe 50 a week, enough for 6 cans before the club, two carefully concealed naggins to be consumed inside and a taxi home. Sorted If anybody thinks that the pirating of copywrighted music is wrong, please watch the episode of Cribs with Russell Simmons (record exec) and his bitchy Asian wife (yid lash her out of it, but jesus she seems to be a pure cnut). These people have toilets plated with gold. The wife even has a live-in gay chap as her fashion advisor or something. Its enough to never buy anything legally again.


Not paying your tv licence is also an honourable offence, seeing as you will NEVER be caught for it.

Smokey, where in the fcuk are ya payin 30 euro to go see a film.

Terry

Not Sure

depends who you're buying them from.

there a certain market just over the border and some of the profits go to the 'ra. i wouldn't ever buy anything from there again.

Dooom

Where the hell do you pay €30 to go see a film??

Dragan

Everytime i see those "Piracy is Theft" ads i just think, "so is the cost of dvds and cinema tickets!".

Caliden

No

Why would you buy a DVD from someone, who much like yourself, has access to the internet?

Going to the movies with friends is the only time I would pay to see a movie.

#Smokey#

Maybe

28064212 wrote:

Where the hell are you going to the pictures?

€10 for a ticket at UCI another €10 for snacks and a €10 for a taxi

Mossy Monk

No

the US goverment says it funds terrorism and i believe them

but really, i dont buy pirate dvd's

CiaranC

No

Not only is it wrong, but its incredibly stupid, as everything is available online for free.

#Smokey#

Maybe

oh so your a regular pirate then Ciaran? a member of the scene

Sleipnir

Many organised crime gangs sell pirated DVD's by the truckload so I don't buy them. You aren't just supporting pirating, you may also be supporting the drugs trade etc

WhiteWashMan

from AH

Terry

Not Sure

Deleted User wrote:

I don't buy pirate dvds. I don't download movies. But I don't think theres anything wrong with it. Or at least it isn't as bad as they try to make it out to be.

Yaaarrr.

i downloaded a movie the other day, but only because it won't be released in the cinemas here for another few weeks and i really wanted to see it.
i'll also go and watch it when it is released.

Tha Gopher wrote:

Not paying your tv licence is also an honourable offence, seeing as you will NEVER be caught for it.

the inspector called to my house a few times. i gave a fake name and said i didn't live here and was just house sitting. he called again one morning and i was about to tell the same story, but then my father walked to the door and it turned out that he knew the inspector. i had to buy a license then.

Dooom

Deleted User wrote:

they

Speak no more of them! They see all...

#Smokey#

Maybe

Sleipnir wrote:

Many organised crime gangs sell pirated DVD's by the truckload so I don't buy them. You aren't just supporting pirating, you may also be supporting the drugs trade etc

yes but that arguement goes both ways.you could be helping someone who has no other means of income or you could be helping a young teenager get better clothes etc by buying a dvd of him/her.

muppetkiller

Not Sure

Agree with Ciaran why buy them and support organised Crime and Terrorism when you can download them for free at home

The US should fund all Broadband users so they don't buy them from the axis of evil haha

Mossy Monk

No

Tha Gopher wrote:

Not paying your tv licence is also an honourable offence, seeing as you will NEVER be caught for it

while everyone else pays?

Tha Gopher

CiaranC wrote:

Not only is it wrong, but its incredibly stupid, as everything is available online for free.

But not all of us have broadband.


If the licence man called to mine and asked to see the licence Id say I didnt have a tv

"Whys there a satellite dish on your wall?"
"Decoration. We like the neighbours to think we can afford to have sky digital"
"Can I take a look inside?"
"Do you have a warrant?
"Eh....no"
"Then Im afraid not. Hop along now"

In the unlikely event he bothers going down to the courthouse to get a warrant next time he calls around you can stall him long enough to hide the tv.


And Smokey, admittedtly Blanch UCI is scandalous pricing (never mind the time it takes to get served). However, eating and drinking during a film isnt essential. And walk home or get the bus ya lazy git

biko

No

Why is this a public poll?
I think OP is a cop.

28064212

No

#Smokey# wrote:

€10 for a ticket at UCI another €10 for snacks and a €10 for a taxi

Here's an idea: Don't spend €10 on 'snacks', and get the bus (if possible).

Buying pirated DVDs = helping criminals. Whether they're members of an international terrorist cabal, or a teenager looking for some easy money, they're still criminals

28064212

No

Tha Gopher wrote:

If the licence man called to mine and asked to see the licence Id say I didnt have a tv

You still haven't given a reason why you won't pay your licence, except to say you won't get caught

Spike

Maybe

Spike wrote:

Speak no more of them! They see all...

Yeah. they're sly ones.

#Smokey#

Maybe

biko wrote:

Why is this a public poll?
I think OP is a cop.

Ok i well make poll private. oh yeah im a cop your all busted for talking about pirate dvds thats some sick sh*t right here lol

and just so you know my title is "Resident Shady Character" for a reason. Aargh pirates ahoy :eek: :eek: :eek:

EDIT: Cant change poll to private

Dave!

Nah, the Goonies is a pretty good movie -- there's nothin wrong with buyin a copy!

booyah!

OT, yes, it's wrong. You should just invest in broadband and download them yourself!

#Smokey#

Maybe

hey man did you get that pm i sent ya?

Necronomicon

A lot of people argue that the price of going to the cinema justifies downloading/buying pirate. While cinemas are **** expensive, that logic is a load of crap. It's like saying because a sports car is so expensive, you'd be justified in stealing one.
There's been a few posts in this thread about how it depends on where you are buying it from. Whether you are buying it from your mate, some guy out of a car boot or the mafia, it's still the same crime.

monkeyfudge

No

Someone in my office wastes money on pirate DVDs... the quallity is usually sh*te. If it's not some handy cam footage of a cinema screen then it's a poor low bit rate DVD.

I own about 600 or so DVDs as I love cinema and I like be able to watch my collection in the best possible quality.

juanjo

juanjo wrote:

No it is more like having the original gioconda, a poster or just a picture. depending how much you want something, you get the real thing or just a copy, with the desired quality. You can get movie copies in the internet as good as dvd's, in fact the copy of the whole DVD, but people prefer to download a divx, because although having less quality it downloads faster. after all most os the movies are ****e nowadays...

And the sports car is the worst example you can get. you don't steal, you copy. like chinese do with brands....

By the way it is incredible how people forget that everybody used to copy music and movies in old cassete and vcr tapes, without any fuss around (i actually never heard the term "piracy" in those wonder years)....

monkeyfudge

No

You never heard of video piracy?

I did record lots of movies off the TV onto VHS mainly because it was harder to get a hold of the films I wanted back then... But I've since bought on DVD most of those films.

juanjo

I never heard that term when the VCR was on, we used to call them copies and never pirate copies.

I have to say as well that in spain we make a difference between a pirate copy and a private one. the pirate has the intention of make money out of it, while the private is sharing something you own, or copying it for backup purposes.

Anyways you only can get sued by the distributors if you share it. And there's an insurance for that...

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/06/28/p2p_insurer_will_pay.html

missingtime

If you are gonna spend money you might as well buy the real one. Downloading is a different thing as technically it doesnt cost any money and you dont feel ripped off if the quality is dire. Or if it has been filmed in the cinema.

A more purtinant question is: Is it wrong to rent a movie and then burn it?

jor el

Maybe

Is it wrong to buy pirate dvds?

Depends on where you buy it I guess and where the money goes. The only place I've ever seen them on sale was at a local market. These were mostly really bad quality cams judging by what people were saying about them and the two I bought myself.

I've probably about 400-500 bought DVDs now in my collection, most of which were bought on sales or cdwow and play.com for little more, or less even, than you'd buy pirated copies. Whether it's right or wrong, who knows, they're often a waste of money though.

What really annoys me about bought DVDs though is the unskippable ads or piracy/copyright warnings. I have a few DVDs where there are trailers that you can't skip or fast forward through, really makes me wish I had bought a copy, or downloaded it, as it wouldn't have this crap.

As for piracy=stealing, it's not really. If you go into a shop and rob a DVD off the shelf then the shop looses out. They paid for the DVD but now can't sell it so they have lost money on it. If you copy a DVD from a friend, or buy/download a copy, then the shops and producers haven't actually lost anything as nothing was taken. Sure, they won't make as much as they could have, but that's only a potential earnings loss. It's not the same as actually having something stolen from them.

In a lot of cases, the people who buy the copies or download films wouldn't have bought the original anyway so even the potential losses are minimal.

garred

I buy a few pirates/backups online and they are perfect dvd quality. The quality depends on where/who you buy from. Transfers, cams, screeners I would never buy. Do I feel guilty buying them...no. I go to the cinema and it p1sses me off when you see utter crap and can't get your money back. However some of these backups I buy if the film is good I'll buy the original/legit version. As was mentioned earlier I would'nt watch half these films but by buying the backup and enjoying it, this would lead me to buy it through the proper channels.

BlitzKrieg

i have never both pirated dvds...


But i have downloaded on a small number of occasions and my justification is simple.


A) If siad film is of a franchise or licence that interests me, but i dont trust the director helming the project, I am more likely to download then to pay for a cinema ticket. Example: Paul W.S Anderson's films, such as AvP and Resident Evil got this treatment.


The film is released in US but the release date in europe is a number of months later. This happened with Finding Nemo it was already on dvd in the US by the time it was put in the cinema here, but if they are good films i will prob see them again when they are screened here.

BaZmO*

Necromomicon wrote:

A lot of people argue that the price of going to the cinema justifies downloading/buying pirate. While cinemas are **** expensive, that logic is a load of crap. It's like saying because a sports car is so expensive, you'd be justified in stealing one.

Bad analogy. A better one to say would be........ "Does the high cost of going to a Concert justify downloading/buying pirate CDs?"

juanjo wrote:

By the way it is incredible how people forget that everybody used to copy music and movies in old cassete and vcr tapes, without any fuss around (i actually never heard the term "piracy" in those wonder years).....

I find that hard to believe. The term was widely used during the days if VCR use. Every tape would have that English guy on at the beginning warning people against Pirating.

juanjo wrote:

I have to say as well that in spain we make a difference between a pirate copy and a private one. the pirate has the intention of make money out of it, while the private is sharing something you own, or copying it for backup purposes.

The title of the thread answers that one for ya.

constitutionus

Maybe

leagally , yes its wrong to buy pirates. factually if a film i want is on sale and some muppet in maketing decided i cant see it till two months after its states release then i dont care , im buying it. the best thing about piracy is the introduction of the same day worldwide release

#Smokey#

Maybe

i dont mean legally i meant ethically.and btw there is a site where you can check the quality of a move release whether its cam/telesync/dvdrip/dvdscr/telecine. I am not sure if im allowed post the URL even though the site does not offer any ways to download said films

Basq

No

#Smokey# wrote:

..btw there is a site where you can check the quality of a move release whether its cam/telesync/dvdrip/dvdscr/telecine. I am not sure if im allowed post the URL even though the site does not offer any ways to download said films

Yes.. we know and DON'T! :rolleyes:

nlgbbbblth

No

I don't buy pirate DVDs. I don't like where the money might end up.

I find it hilarious that people will spend thousands of euro on a LCD television and a fancy DVD / home theatre set up and will be happy to watch a DVD of a movie TAPED IN A CINEMA.

Idiots.

I bought a number of pirate VHS in the 1980s and 1990s but was justifed in doing so because the films were banned here and in the UK - mostly horrors like Last House On The Left, I Spit On Your Grave, House At The Edge Of The Park, Last House On Dead End Street, Cannibal Holocaust etc. With multi-region DVD players these movies are now easily available.

Ruu_Old

Not Sure

nlgbbbblth wrote:

I don't buy pirate DVDs. I don't like where the money might end up.

I find it hilarious that people will spend thousands of euro on a LCD television and a fancy DVD / home theatre set up and will be happy to watch a DVD of a movie TAPED IN A CINEMA.

Idiots.

I bought a number of pirate VHS in the 1980s and 1990s but was justifed in doing so because the films were banned here and in the UK - mostly horrors like Last House On The Left, I Spit On Your Grave, House At The Edge Of The Park, Last House On Dead End Street, Cannibal Holocaust etc. With multi-region DVD players these movies are now easily available.

Agreed but maybe if they gave the money to charity or something then I would consider it.;) The part about the LCD telly is so true, made me roffle.

abetarrush

Maybe

Ah, handy aul www.******.com!!!


I download films and music all the time,and dont feel like im doin anything wrong. Its just greed, and its all about money

Money is ruining Cinema and Music

Big companies like Sony dish out big budgets to retards [yes Paul Anderson, im talkin abt you!] to make films they know people will see, even though the film sucks

And as nice as they are, i'm sick of all the videos that take an old song, remix it and have a loada slappers in the video
[like Call on Me, I'll Be Ready.....]

Again, they're just to make money, they have no talent @ all

So, I think Piracy should be promoted! The only way to get back at the Organisaations that are robbin us blind is to rob them back!

But yeah, if u buy pirate DVDs, be cautious

* * * P I R A C Y - W 0 0 t ! ! ! * * *

Kingp35

No

The only reason I dont buy Pirate DVDs is because the quality of them tends to be rubbish and they never have 5.1 sound. Who in their right mind would pay for something with rubbish quality?

Goodshape

No

Haven't read the previous repsonces but my 2c :

Yes, paying for pirate DVD's is wrong. I think it's a lot more wrong than downloading or copying from a friend (for free). Point being that if you're going to give any money for the film, it sould at least go to the right places and not into the pocket of someone who is just looking for an easy living off someone elses creative work.

(it could also be argued, and I would often be one to argue it, that the big distribution companys and creative copyright holders are also 'looking for an easy living off someone elses creative work', but that's no excuse to give money to a pirate vendor. piracy should be free).