Dundrum town centre and escalators

formatman

Not sure if this is the correct thread ...


but does anyone that visits the DUNDRUM centre not know the silent rule of moving to the left or right of the walkway if people want to pass ?, it takes nearly 5 mins to go 2 floors with people hogging the escalators

Ye could take the stairs etc etc but wondering on other peoples views on what I see as a major annoyance compared to other european and international cities

thewing

It's ireland, and dundrum, not london and piccadilly tube station....get over it, or take the stairs.

KTRIC

When I went to Germany for the first time with my girlfriend many years ago, she told me about the golden rule on German escalators, ALWAYS stand to the right so people can walk around you.

This works a threat, but unfortunatly due to the social innept Irish it will never work here.

Saruman

This is the same anywhere in the country.. blanch is a prime example.. those flat escalators take ages to go up so i usually take the stairs.

layke

I politely ask people top move. In the Square though some of the people look at you like you've just asked for a shot of their missus.

Mossy Monk

it should be made law

if you are to stand on an escalater stand on the right hand side. works wonderfully in London tube stations i found

thewing

It does, but along with orderly queues and other such crowded situations, us irsh are incapable of following ettiquette.It's in our nature, someone breaks free and then everyone follows...

whiskeyman

escalators are bad enough here, but the flat travelators (as seen in Blanch, Dundrum and the airport) are just not understood by Irish people.
You're supposed to keep walking once your on them FFS!!!! The whole point of them if to speed you up, not feckin slow you down!

r3nu4l

It would be great if this was incorporated into Irish society but to be honest, we all know that it won't happen. Perhaps if the Government asked people NOT to stand to the right, it would work, everybody would be at it then


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_sidewalk

See the 'usage' section

Also, because you have mentioned a place in Dublin in this thread some people may demand it gets moved here but as there are escalators in many parts of Ireland I'm hoping these people will not get too upset

TomCo

thewing wrote:

It does, but along with orderly queues and other such crowded situations, us irsh are incapable of following ettiquette.It's in our nature, someone breaks free and then everyone follows...

Freedom is a beautiful thing man.

SteamTrean

thewing wrote:

It's ireland, and dundrum, not london and piccadilly tube station....get over it, or take the stairs.

Are you serious? To hear this issue being raised is music to my ears. These people need to be educated or something. The right knowledgeable original poster is not saying that people should all walk fast down/up the escalators but to step to one side so that people who are in a hurry, people who aren't there to take in the sights, can move with ease to were they need/want to go.

An exception to this would be a lad(y) with a pram. Now I'm sure I could get passed the pram if it was tight to the side, but I'll forgive a mo/fa-ther who has good reason to have their minds someplace else. But for two people to be standing gabbing side by side, holding up the hole line is selfish, unforgivable and totally unacceptable.

SteamTrean

layke wrote:

I politely ask people top move. In the Square though some of the people look at you like you've just asked for a shot of their missus.

Sure.. but often the people directly infront of you are not at fault . The bottle neck has occured several meters up... The two twats with the fluffy boots, talking about a txt they got last night.

Celticfire

formatman wrote:

but does anyone that visits the DUNDRUM centre not know the silent rule of moving to the left or right of the walkway if people want to pass ?

How am I to know if nobody tells me?Which is it anyway? Left or right?

Collie D

formatman wrote:

Not sure if this is the correct thread ...


but does anyone that visits the DUNDRUM centre not know the silent rule of moving to the left or right of the walkway if people want to pass ?, it takes nearly 5 mins to go 2 floors with people hogging the escalators

Ye could take the stairs etc etc but wondering on other peoples views on what I see as a major annoyance compared to other european and international cities

Yeah, that always makes me want to get out my AK47 :rolleyes:

It's amazing what annoys people!

kippy

FFS,
Ask the person to move politely,
Take the stairs.
Stand in the next election with this as your main policy.


What the fecking hurry anyway-

SteamTrean

kippy wrote:

FFS,
Ask the person to move politely,
Take the stairs.
Stand in the next election with this as your main policy.


What the fecking hurry anyway-

Life's too short to be spending 20 minutes buying a nic nac in Argos. Just 'cause you have nowhere else to be, don't presume that all our lives are as pointless.

kippy

Life's too short to be spending 20 minutes buying a nic nac in Argos. Just 'cause you have nowhere else to be, don't presume that all our lives are as pointless.

If you can take the time to get through the traffic and chaos that usually ensues in getting to that part of Dublin I dont see why you cant have a bit of patience in getting up the escalator.
Or plan your shopping a bit better so that you dont have to go to all that trouble to buy a nic nac in Argos.
Or use the stairs.

Pointless as my life may be, such small things do not get on my nerves.
Kippy

NeMiSiS

I usually stomp up or down the escalator towards the 'blockage' and then say " excuse me"..
This escalators for standin! Not for your fancy walkin!

TK

r3nu4l

Celticfire wrote:

How am I to know if nobody tells me?Which is it anyway? Left or right?

r3nu4l wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_sidewalk

See the 'usage' section

Celticfire

A mnemonic for the U.S./British convention on this point is that stand and right each have five letters, while walk and left have four.

As easy as that, Now to get that on tv and radio ad's everywhere....

Spread the word

SteamTrean

kippy wrote:

If you can take the time to get through the traffic and chaos that usually ensues in getting to that part of Dublin I dont see why you cant have a bit of patience in getting up the escalator.
Or plan your shopping a bit better so that you dont have to go to all that trouble to buy a nic nac in Argos.
Or use the stairs.

Pointless as my life may be, such small things do not get on my nerves.
Kippy

I live in that part of Dublin and maybe it doesn't get on your nerves because you've nothing else to do.

johnp

The other thing that bugs me about escalators is when people get to the top/bottom they stand there deciding where to go now :rolleyes:

Chakar

If we can change our smoking habits by way of the smoking ban then damn straight we can stand on the right on escalators.

wheelbarrow

Agree with the standing to one side issue. I`d like to take it a step further and introduce a fast and slow lane for Grafton Street.

- Slow lanes either side for the shoppers and old people.

- Fast lane in the middle for those who want to get somewhere.

- Sharp Shooters positioned in order to take out the feckers who insist on cycling.

kippy

I live in that part of Dublin and maybe it doesn't get on your nerves because you've nothing else to do.

True,
Why dont you use the stairs then?

wheelbarrow

johnp wrote:

The other thing that bugs me about escalators is when people get to the top/bottom they stand there deciding where to go now :rolleyes:

More snipers required for this, more again for those who stand in the middle of pavements/corridors having conversations. More again for those who drive their shopping trolley diagonally around Tescos. More again for those who still use a umbrella when it is finished rainining ( for those tho have forgotten what rain is - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain )

SteamTrean

kippy wrote:

True,
Why dont you use the stairs then?

I sometimes use the stairs but as a matter of principal; It's dead wrong that I have to use the stairs because of idiots with no manners?

kippy

I sometimes use the stairs but as a matter of principal; It's dead wrong that I have to use the stairs because of idiots with no manners?

Good for you.
Those idiots with no manners, they should really get a life. I mean, standing still on the escalators-what's that all about.
By the way you've wasted a fair bit of time thus far replying to my posts-for a person with a hectic lifestyle who cant waste 20 minutes buying a nic nac in argos-life is too short for a person like you to be taking notice of these idiots(myself included)

SteamTrean

kippy wrote:

Good for you.
Those idiots with no manners, they should really get a life. I mean, standing still on the escalators-what's that all about.
By the way you've wasted a fair bit of time thus far replying to my posts-for a person with a hectic lifestyle who cant waste 20 minutes buying a nic nac in argos-life is too short for a person like you to be taking notice of these idiots(myself included)

I'm getting paid silly money whilst doing this. What's your excuse?

kippy

I'm getting paid silly money whilst doing this. What's your excuse?

I have a pointless life, remember?

JC 2K3

r3nu4l wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_sidewalk

For fun, people sometimes use an escalator in the opposite direction, climbing up or down the stairs faster than it moves. This can cause inconvenience for other users, so is wisest attempted during quiet periods.

FTW.

markpb

whiskeyman wrote:

escalators are bad enough here, but the flat travelators (as seen in Blanch, Dundrum and the airport) are just not understood by Irish people.
You're supposed to keep walking once your on them FFS!!!! The whole point of them if to speed you up, not feckin slow you down!

Slightly OT but they're for the shopping trolleys that, oddly enough, congregate in shopping centres. It's a little hard to haul one of them up a regular escalator

InFront

Whiskeyman is right. People shopping the town centre just dont seem to get it: Keep moving and if youre going to stand, move out of the way. Not everybody has time to admire the scenery or watch the wet floor drying. Most people are travelling on it to get somewhere.

People standing still on escalators annoys me too when you cant pass them. I usually stomp down behind them and they get the message. If you're healthy, why wont you just walk??

Siogfinsceal

this does my head in esp in the square when you cant move on the escalator so much better in London where everyone does it

Guy:Incognito

whiskeyman wrote:

escalators are bad enough here, but the flat travelators (as seen in Blanch, Dundrum and the airport) are just not understood by Irish people.
You're supposed to keep walking once your on them FFS!!!! The whole point of them if to speed you up, not feckin slow you down!

i think you'll find the flat one are there so that you can change floors with a trolly/buggy. The trolly locks into it to stop it being able to move
. The dublin airport one is different as its not for changing floors its to get from one end of a long corridor to the other.

astrofool

Sort of on topic, it always gets me when people block the way in an airport, as if everyone is working to the same schedule as them. I remember once getting into Heathrow late for a flight connection (it was booked all the way through either way, so i'd just have to get a later flight if missed, but I didn't want to), and you'd get these big groups of people standing/dawdling around, 3/4 wide slowing everyone down. I hope I never think myself so important as to delay anyone else unnecessarily, cos they're either very stupid or not very nice people.

And +1 for the standing on the right, I usually stand on the right anyway if I'm not in a rush, but if I am in a rush, then it would be nice to have the overtake option. I think the first thing thats needed though is some signs saying "please stand on the right" and it'll all take off from there.

whiskeyman

Stekelly wrote:

i think you'll find the flat one are there so that you can change floors with a trolly/buggy. The trolly locks into it to stop it being able to move
. The dublin airport one is different as its not for changing floors its to get from one end of a long corridor to the other.

I've no problems that they aid trolley/pram users (even though the majority still use the lifts anyway), but for those without either, there's no reason to stand still once your legs hit the damn thing.

Guess it's because I'm another person who's spent a lot of time in London. It's just so refreshing going there seeing people use the things as they should be
/rant

smemon

wheelbarrow wrote:

- Slow lanes either side for the shoppers and old people.

- Fast lane in the middle for those who want to get somewhere.

totally agree. i'd love to just bowl my way through a group of sheep students or shoppers and knock them to the ground like skittles.

Wertz

astrofool wrote:

I think the first thing thats needed though is some signs saying "please stand on the right" and it'll all take off from there.

Now see that would make too much sense and hence will never happen.

We can't even seem to figure out this system on our motorways and dual carriageways; what hope is there for public conveyances?

InFront

astrofool wrote:

Sort of on topic, it always gets me when people block the way in an airport, as if everyone is working to the same schedule as them. I remember once getting into Heathrow late for a flight connection (it was booked all the way through either way, so i'd just have to get a later flight if missed, but I didn't want to), and you'd get these big groups of people standing/dawdling around, 3/4 wide slowing everyone down. .

I have this problem all the time in the street. Admittedly Im the kind of ill prepared person who leaves things to the last minute (hey, I work well under pressure:o It always happens that if Im going somewhere in a hurry theres a big wall of slow tourists or street chatters in front of me. You have to dash in and out between them because they wont keep moving or go into shops, its this almost stationary stance or inconsideration for others that ticks me right off.

Again veering off topic, I get annoyed by people who stand on the bus even when there is ample seating upstairs and they block people getting off, especially if its an old person or a lady with bags. I tend to go: :rolleyes:

rsta

whiskeyman wrote:

You're supposed to keep walking once your on them FFS!!!! The whole point of them if to speed you up, not feckin slow you down!

exactly.

Anyway, those flat ones are slower cos they are designed to hold shopping trolleys from tescos (i think the square in tallaght had that style first?), not hoards of lazy shoppers standing on the slow moving travelators/escalators.

people are just lazy. I never use those travelators they are ridiculously slow and the majority of the people on them are tubby women of all ages just stood there yapping with their shopping bags in hand.

the stairs is far more quicker, also the lifts are too (when u can get one with room in it.. :rolleyes: )

InFront

Hmmm 2 Dundrum threads in as many days. Where is this wild and wonderful place?

Dundrum Forum required tbh

Lump

The written rule in the London underground is to stand on the right, and walk on the left. I've been in London 2 years now, and I get really annoyed when people stand on the left. However, there's no signs in Ireland, or supermarkets in England, so it doesn't bother me. You're shopping FFS, ask people to move, or wait the extra couple of minutes.

John

lost_for_words

The situation in the Paris metro stations works a decent escalator + travelator system that everyone sticks to (God help you if you try to break the rules here). Stand on the right and let people who are walking overtake on the left, its common decency not to hold people when you are not in a rush yourself. The day you are on the bottom level of an airport/shopping centre etc, and in a huge rush this sytem will be greatly appreciated.

If people refuse to stand to one specific side, do you think its possible that they can be convinced not to stand smack bang in the middle which means no chance of getting past.

Sarn

Lump wrote:

The written rule in the London underground is to stand on the right, and walk on the left....there's no signs in Ireland.

This is the point exactly, the only reason I was aware of it was because of the underground in London. Personally, if I find an escalator blocked I use it as an opportunity to have a break from walking.

I do agree that people who stop at the end of an escalator (be it to tie shoelaces, ponder the meaning of life etc.) deserve to be punished. Where do they expect the people behind them to go (apart from trampling them to death)?

Archeron

I agree with the idea of standing on the right and using the left for overtaking, but IMO the likening of situations in a Metro or underground station or even an airport in comparison to a shopping centre is a bit silly. OK, in somewhere like an airport/metro, its okay because you can rightfully shout "get out of my frigging way, I'm about to miss my train/plane" Whats the similiar excuse in a shopping centre? "Get out of my way, I need to buy a new wok, and I need to get to Roches Stores before they sell out"?

If your life is that busy and you're in that much of a rush, then what the hell are you doing in a shopping centre in the first place? Some people use shopping centres to chill out and relax. If you dont like that, then do what I do, stop going to them and buy everything on the internet instead, thus leaving plenty more time for you to run around in a rush trying to get everything done before everybody else.

Siogfinsceal

Im often in a hurry in a shopping centre esp on my lunch break. In fact Im nearly always in a hurry Ive somewhere to be or something to do. If people moved to the right it provides options for both people - those who want to stand and those who want to walk and move quickly. At the moment those of us who want to move are restricted by people who block the whole thing.

Nehpets

How are say.. 3 friends meant to stand? In a line on the right?

I've always moved for people but never knew about the "silent" rule.

RainyDay

How am I supposed to stand in line while holding my 2-year-old's hand?

Zhane

RainyDay wrote:

How am I supposed to stand in line while holding my 2-year-old's hand?

You can hold the childs hand if hes in front of you?

r3nu4l

Zhane wrote:

You can hold the childs hand if hes in front of you?

Exactly, and teach your child the etiquette while you're at it. Let your child know there is a reason for doing this.