The Street

PurpleFistMixer

Session 1 people may not be aware that the Session2ers have been banned from congregating in the The Street due to whatever it was that the Session1ers were doing.

Now, I don't want to foster any resentment towards whoever people ripped away one of the most integral parts of the CTYI experience and ruined it for everyone, but, well, discuss.

Were the couches SO badly abused? I mean, many people have been on them before, and the Street tends to be THE place for afternoon hanging, so what went so wrong, that it has been taken away?


(Also, is it just me, or is this forum getting pretty dead?)

Piste

This came up in Game Theory, someone said Boards was dead, until I pointed out that it's just this forum, not the whole of Boards, then we found out that Steve the Instructor knows Cloud. Small world.

Yeah so exactly what happened in the street that was bad that we can't hang out there now? The staff in Spar are getting pretty pissed off about us congregating outside there during break because we can't use the Street.

JenLorigan

To be honest, the admin wouldn't do something this whine-inducing without a good reason. Being allowed use DCU for CTYI > being allowed use the Street to congregate. I mean, I'd rather we could have both, but I'm sure there was a good reason.

halenger

Yeah but come on. The Street is used and abused all year round and has been for years. How in the hell did you (S1) abuse it so much to get banned from it? Explain please.

meeka

I'm not really too bothered tbh, never really used the Street much.. ever. But it is kind of annoying, I suppose, now that we can't use it, there seems to be more of a temptation.

I doubt what happened was -that- bad, there is a limit to what anyone will do in public, but people were complaining, so, I suppose colm didn't really have much of a choice.. maybe.. iunno

slasher_65

Piste wrote:

This came up in Game Theory, someone said Boards was dead, until I pointed out that it's just this forum, not the whole of Boards, then we found out that Steve the Instructor knows Cloud. Small world.

Yeah so exactly what happened in the street that was bad that we can't hang out there now? The staff in Spar are getting pretty pissed off about us congregating outside there during break because we can't use the Street.

that was so me. the bits i go on have people shouting about moving to bebo or those "things".

staying on topic, didnt colm say something about over friendlyness?

those in game theory, i found steve's blog. search his name in google, since i would probs get shouted at for linking. it is really intresting reading.

halenger

In fairness, there's very little CTYIers /won't/ do in public.

sionnach

Apparently there is one DCU faculty member who has never liked CTYI and most years lodges some serious complaint. In my last year it concerned students kissing in the canteen and we were sternly told to keep pdas to a minimum. *smirk*

I'm guessing said person saw some amorous folks on the couches and lodged the same complaint. CTYI are just trying not to upset anyone, they are there only at DCU's pleasure are they not?

halenger

Bring back Sheila. She knew how to handle public displays of affection.

<cue couple in common room (yes, back in the day) going at it (kissing, you filth)>
<cue Sheila walking in and standing there>
<cue silence, some smirks, giggles>
<cue couple stopping and looking around>
"Coming up for air, eh?"
<cue Sheila leaving>

Legend.

bandana

That's pretty ridiculous, I was in sess 1 and it wasn't that bad!
There was a lot of moving the couches around, which they gave out yards about, went so far as to put up signs in the Street to warn everybody not to. That was as far as that went since the RAs were bugging everyone to fix the place up after they were done.
It could have been a mix of that and that the litter was worse this year, on top of us there was a gang of skater kids that would just walk in, grab a drink out of the vending machine and throw their crap everywhere whenever a security guard actually deigned to show up.
Also if there's a member of staff who's been giving out yards then there was one who insisted on falling asleep in the middle of the place every other day, thought he was a hobo-turned out he was a professor.
... And I think somebody managed to fly a giant paper aeroplane into one of the windows at the top of the place, didn't even know there were offices up there til he got given out yards to by some crazy woman.
Wow actually after remembering all that I'm kindof inclined to see their point, and yet it still didn't seem worse than any other year I'd been there.

It wasn't me!

halenger wrote:

Bring back Sheila. She knew how to handle public displays of affection.

<cue couple in common room (yes, back in the day) going at it (kissing, you filth)>
<cue Sheila walking in and standing there>
<cue silence, some smirks, giggles>
<cue couple stopping and looking around>
"Coming up for air, eh?"
<cue Sheila leaving>

Legend.

those were indeed the days. in those days the RAs were told to be that way too, and Catriona was kept on a leash. Man, the common rooms were probably the biggest loss...

Feral Mutant

First the Hub, then the common rooms and now the Street. Any guesses on what'll be next to go? My money's on bathrooms.

carlowboy

Hee hee, good times, good times. Seriously though, they had the Metro there every morning which was mostly used to beat people over the head with and then disguarded. It was probably the litter, although there was a certain young couple (and no, not involving me) that were scolded a few times by Elanor......

Undergod

I remember some passers-by last year being ignorant to CTYIers, for example let's say, me.

So some people are just unpleasant.

In fairness, there's very little CTYIers /won't/ do in public.

And I was just sleeping. Stupid bitch.


I completely forgot about no common rooms. That sucked.

Jack Lynch

They've taken the Street! That's outrageous. That was THE place, after the Quad. They're gonna take the Quad too, y'know. There'll be one water fight too many and the next thing BAM! Use the emergency exit/ windows, thank you.


Yeah, Bring Back Sheila. We should start a big committee. With T-shirts!

I dont know about Boards being dead. I havent been on it in aaages.

Spraypaint

This is probably a step too far. CTYIers need a place to congregate and just chill out. Plus those couches are comfy. Back in my day (granted it was only last year but still) the couches were used and abused like there was no tomorrow (vague recollections of 17 people on one couch) but the powers-that-be didn't do much, if anything about it. And thats the way we liked it! The goings-on in the street were usually harmless and [with a few notable exceptions] relatively clean. The litter is a new one on me though. I always remember it being junk-free. What the heck happened?

Feral Mutant

Maybe it was due to all the people stealing from vending machines. Not that anything'll change, they'll just go to the ones in the Henry Grattan lobby.

It wasn't me!

Feral Mutant wrote:

Maybe it was due to all the people stealing from vending machines. Not that anything'll change, they'll just go to the ones in the Henry Grattan lobby.

Those are harder to rob...




Not that I'd know... (Wants to be an RA)

gigglingrat

Yeah, CTYI seems to have lost its sparkle since my first year. I can't believe they've banned the street though, that's pretty drastic. I remember a few years ago...some unnamed people...used to poke holes in the couches and pull out the string. And never a word was said.

Psh, bring back the good oul days when petty vandalisim was overlooked, that's what I say. But I'm never going back so I guess it doesn't really affect me either way.

Aoibheann

Wtf I'm doing posting at 4am I'll never know..

Anyway, while it does sound pretty crap and all to be without the Street, it's not really as if anything can be done about it. As sionn said, "they are there only at DCU's pleasure", which is exactly right. Any complaints have to be taken very seriously or the privilege could be taken away. And I have to agree with Jen, having CTYI itself there is more important than the use of the Street. It'll be weird, but I guess you'll have to get used to it.

Hope you kiddies are having a good time despite that. *shuffles off muttering about the good old days*

Major McMuffin

I was there session 1, and to be honest, what happened in the street happens every year. You know what im talking about, anyone who rememberers Irwin's definition of "canoodling" does. And as for moving furniture, hell, that happens all the time too. Still, over 4 years of ctyi, things seemed to get progressively stricter. All that said, im a spiteful nevermore now, why back in my day... *begins rambling tangent, which spawns several other unrelated tangents* And damn, those skater kids were annoying too.

Jack Lynch

gigglingrat wrote:

Psh, bring back the good oul days when petty vandalisim was overlooked, that's what I say.

And how can we do this, I hear you ask? Bring Back Shiela. That's what the front of the T-shirt'll say. The back'll say Nothing Personal, Colm.

Crash

or, yeh know, people could not be prats?

I never quite understood this whole pushing the rules thing - if people actually had some common sense and didn't act like children, they wouldnt be treated as such. I know when i was working there I had no interest in doing so, but there are certain situations where you have to thanks to the completely ignorant actions of some. c'est la vie.

It wasn't me!

The pushing the rules thing I kinda understand. The rules haven't really changed much since I started, but attitudes and enforcement has. Back in '02/'03, the rules could be bent every so often, to the good of someone, not as rigid as they are now. Now, the students are still poking the rules, checking for some little degree of flexibility, not finding it, and the rigidity is all coming plib with the students not quite getting that the times they have a changed. Weird, considering none of them really go back that far... Still, there will come a time when they're sick of banging their heads off the apparent administrative wall and just stop pushing the rules. Incidentally, I pushed the rules quite a bit, and it was frustrating and oppressive feeling to have them tighten up and be strictly enforced over the past two years. I honestly don't think I'd go back as an RA if I were to be expected to enforce them properly. I'd feel like a bit of a dick...

carlowboy

&#231 wrote: »

or, yeh know, people could not be prats?

I never quite understood this whole pushing the rules thing - if people actually had some common sense and didn't act like children, they wouldnt be treated as such. I know when i was working there I had no interest in doing so, but there are certain situations where you have to thanks to the completely ignorant actions of some. c'est la vie.

But how can you not expect them not to? They are children. And its not like they did those things to break the rules. The reason session 2ers are banned from the street is the litter caused by the free Metros being handed out. I know its CTYIers' fault but I wouldn't call it "pushing the rules". Its not like they were harassing passers by or beating up strangers.

Crash

aye, but part of the idea of CTYI is that if you can act grown up, and stay within the rules, then you'll be treated like that. and it makes it easier for everyone.

Matthewthebig

There was obviously something done by some twats that got it banned

well done

Thursday*

I've heard people were banned from the couches in 2004 due to 'canoodling'.

I would like to take this opportunity to ask everyone to step back from this for a moment and to point out the absolutely absurdity of the phrase 'abusing the couches'. I mean, really.

And finally - I was in session 1 this year, nothing mad happened as regards the couches, signs went up about moving them, I don't know how well that request was honoured. My class didn't spend much time in the street anyway as our wonderful whimsical evil dictator of an instructor didn't like the couches because they were 'so stereotypical CTYI'.

Please don't be all bitter towards session 1 people, session 2 folks, you gotta remember no student actually made the decision to ban people from the street, that was an action taken by a member of staff for their own reasons completely beyond our control.

And has no explanation been offered, no?

It wasn't me!

Thursday* wrote:

I've heard people were banned from the couches in 2004 due to 'canoodling'.

Eh, not to my recollection.

Thursday*

No? Well I wasn't there, just my mates who were said that. Could have gotten the details wrong myself.

carlowboy

They weren't banned in session 1 either although they were never used nearly as much in my experience as this year.

Piste

Thursday* wrote:

I've heard people were banned from the couches in 2004 due to 'canoodling'.

No, we were just warned off it.

Thursday*

Oh that would be it then. Glad I wasn't just making it up in my mind. Warned off canoodling, is it? Funny the mixed messages they have going there - 'points!' 'but no canoodling!'

Colourful

Is the Street all locked up then?

slasher_65

god no. but we walk through it every day.... flinging longing looks at those strangly coloured couches as if we had just lost aa friend.....
and there is still metro's all over the floor.

Raphael

Colourful wrote:

Is the Street all locked up then?

Why would it be locked up? DCU != CTYI

I'm inclined to agree with Neil and Matt, if they've banned session 2 from using it then in all likelihood people were abusing it in session one.

Piste

Raphael wrote:

in all likelihood people were abusing it in session one.

There's no "in all likelihood" about it, we know they were abusing it, Colm told us that on the first day, we just want to know how.

Raphael

I wasn't there on the first day. Must you rub salt in the wound, you heartless wench?

*runs off crying*

slasher_65

Piste wrote:

There's no "in all likelihood" about it, we know they were abusing it, Colm told us that on the first day, we just want to know how.

heartless.

Piste

Quiet Aonghus, this clearly shows that she knew the couches were abused, I wasn't getting at you not being there this year (lol, nevermore)

PurpleFistMixer wrote:

Were the couches SO badly abused?

Raphael

That was a long time ago, many people have been going "God, CTYI, how could you!" since then. Also, shut up you dumb whore.

carlowboy

I think we all know that it was because of the session 1ers but, I don't believe the abuse was any worse than any CTYI session I've been at (03-06). Its just DCU staff getting more strict.

Oh, and I heard enough about how DCU staff dislike CTYI. And it wasn't because the students are abusive to DCU property but apparently DCU staff don't like the idea of "Talented Youth" and think of it as elitist and a snobbish thing etc. Weird.

Thursday*

Yeah I have a bit of a niggling thing in my own head about that but a principle is only a principle when it costs you something and since I keep going to CTYI because it's so amazing I can't really say anything about it.

Seriously, Session 2 people, we're not keeping anything from you, it's not that we had a huge orgy on the couches, or sprayed pig slurry all over them, and we're not telling you, or anything. I think you need to calm down a bit. Session 1 (or its representation on boards) has told you honestly their impressions of what was and wasn't going on and you have to accept it now, and again it was the decision of the staff and not the students to close off the Street.

Also, guys, let's have a bit of perspective here - the Street is a nice room to hang out in but it's not the essence of CTYI or anything, what makes CTYI wonderful is the people and the craic, and physical location isn't the point. DCU as a series of buildings isn't exactly paradise. If you'd lost another facility there'd be similiar 'It was the very pinnacle of happiness' cries. All the same I'm going to miss the couches a bit if they're still off limits Session 1 2007. Find a new centre of good hanging out times! And teach me better sentence structure, that was shameful!

Raphael

You have told us what happened. IMHO it was moving the couches around and firing a paper airplane into someones office that got the street privilges(sp?) revoked. Not that it matters to me, I won't be coming back as a student...

Edit: You're completely right about them being gone not being that big a deal btw. Sure they haven't even been couches in the street for that long, and our lives weren't miserable before then. DCU still has plenty of other places to lounge about and do nothing

Thursday*

Raphael wrote:

DCU still has plenty of other places to lounge about and do nothing

In fact it's really well designed for that purpose. I mean, res is great for it, and the quad, and the grassy bits, and benches, and yes, street, and place with echo outside canteen name of which I constantly forget, and steps outside canteen, and seats in lobby of Henry Grattan....actually yeah this is a bit weird. It's like it was the objective in designing the campus. Is this a bad thing?

Thursday*

'An admirably succint and accurate summary', Raphael. And it's 'privileges'. Although 'sp' could also be an acronym for Street Privileges, which was what I thought you were suggesting at first.

So where have you Session 2ers been hanging out then?

Raphael

(sp?) = spelling? i.e. "this is probably wrong, someone want to correct me?"

Matthewthebig

Thursday* wrote:

Yeah I have a bit of a niggling thing in my own head about that but a principle is only a principle when it costs you something and since I keep going to CTYI because it's so amazing I can't really say anything about it.

Seriously, Session 2 people, we're not keeping anything from you, it's not that we had a huge orgy on the couches, or sprayed pig slurry all over them, and we're not telling you, or anything. I think you need to calm down a bit. Session 1 (or its representation on boards) has told you honestly their impressions of what was and wasn't going on and you have to accept it now, and again it was the decision of the staff and not the students to close off the Street.

Also, guys, let's have a bit of perspective here - the Street is a nice room to hang out in but it's not the essence of CTYI or anything, what makes CTYI wonderful is the people and the craic, and physical location isn't the point. DCU as a series of buildings isn't exactly paradise. If you'd lost another facility there'd be similiar 'It was the very pinnacle of happiness' cries. All the same I'm going to miss the couches a bit if they're still off limits Session 1 2007. Find a new centre of good hanging out times! And teach me better sentence structure, that was shameful!

you moved tham after you were told not to

How stupid can one get? ffs

carlowboy

Eh, I didn't see them moved after the signs went up warning us not to, but then again, you must know more than me about Session 1, what with you not being there of course.

Acid_Violet

carlowboy wrote:

Oh, and I heard enough about how DCU staff dislike CTYI. And it wasn't because the students are abusive to DCU property but apparently DCU staff don't like the idea of "Talented Youth" and think of it as elitist and a snobbish thing etc. Weird.

I've always picked up on that but no-one agreed with me. Though it's a bit controversial to say I think that a lot of people in general abhore CTYIers because they consider them to be of their own importance and inconsiderate. It's an incorrect prejudice for the most part I think but people often will be looking to complain about anything if they assume that viewpoint.

Matthewthebig

carlowboy wrote:

Eh, I didn't see them moved after the signs went up warning us not to, but then again, you must know more than me about Session 1, what with you not being there of course.

Well something was done. If not by your group, then another one. Something that pissed them off no end

why the hell would you need/want to move them in the first place?