Film Four unblocked on NTL Digital

tvbrat

Film Four (the free version I think) just came on a few minutes ago

The epg says
"Film4 relaunches on 23 Jully"

ntl channel 323
and 324 the plus 1 version

Edit
There now running ads for the launch
film clips, with a voice over telling folks
that its now free

http://homepage.eircom.net/~tvbrat/film_four.jpg

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po0k

w00t!

mustang68

Does anyone know: Is it availible on the analog cable service like the way E4, setanta sports is or is it for the digital box only?

tvbrat

mustang68 wrote:

Does anyone know: Is it availible on the analog cable service like the way E4, setanta sports is or is it for the digital box only?

Hi mustang68
I just re-scanned on analog and its not there
Maybe they will add this version as it will have add breaks

subway

is it available for the cheapo digital basic subscribers amongst us?
*cough*me*cough*

Mossy Monk

tvbrat wrote:

Maybe they will add this version as it will have add breaks

i doubt that very much, it will have ads aimed at the UK market for a start

patrickmooney

I'd emailed NTL last week over this. They where unable to confirm if the channel would be free to air. The best info I was told was to check the channel on launch to find out for myself! Crazy!

mustang68

thanks tvbrat.
I can't see the uk ads being a problem as the cable ntl service has uk ads at the moment. It would be too painful to ring ntl to find out so I'll just wait till sunday.

bk

I don't expect this to be on the analogue service.

If it was,they would need to remove an existing channel and on digital it is an excellent selling point for NTL to try and get people to upgrade to digital.

Better go add these channels to my TiVo EPG.

subway

bah, not on digital basic

Mossy Monk

it doesnt go free till Sunday though

Mountjoy Mugger

subway wrote:

bah, not on digital basic

It's not on anywhere, with the exception of unscrambled ads plugging the relaunch of the rebranded Film4. I suspect NTL/UPC will have to negotiate on this.

mike65

Yay!

Mike.

subway

on channel 323 and 324 i get the call ntl to upgrade your service message.
is that what people on full ntl digital see?

Mountjoy Mugger

Getting round the clock trailers only.

nicelives

Mountjoy Mugger wrote:

It's not on anywhere, with the exception of unscrambled ads plugging the relaunch of the rebranded Film4. I suspect NTL/UPC will have to negotiate on this.

More4 wasn't initially on the Cheapo ntl digital either only the main package and then the next week just appeared.

icdg

FilmFour (or Film4 if you prefer) now available on NTL Digital package. For the moment, at least.

william power

film 4 is now free on ntl digital in,dublin,galway and waterford,it became free to air on sky digital this sunday afternoon at 3pm/23 july,it broadcasts for 12 hours a day on sky,from 3pm to 3am,dont know if it will be the same on ntl.

subway

icdg wrote:

FilmFour (or Film4 if you prefer) now available on NTL Digital package. For the moment, at least.

but not on ntl "go digital basic"

gerryo

subway wrote:

but not on ntl "go digital basic"

Not on NTL MMDS either:mad:

Message on screen about subscribing.

Maybe we'll get it next week :rolleyes:

jonski

Not on Chorus Digital either

Mountjoy Mugger

It was on all night last night on Digital. Didn't bother watching anything, but switched over at @ 9.30 to confirm it was broadcasting unscrambled.

I have the sports and movie pack; maybe that makes a difference with them.

tvbrat

Mountjoy Mugger wrote:

It was on all night last night on Digital. Didn't bother watching anything, but switched over at @ 9.30 to confirm it was broadcasting unscrambled.

I have the sports and movie pack; maybe that makes a difference with them.

Same here, had a quick look to see if it was realy unscrambled
dont know if they had add breaks on during the movies

ams

they had ad breaks alright.
i think we have the basic ntl digital package and its all go. happy days

jonski

Mountjoy Mugger wrote:

It was on all night last night on Digital.

Which Digital ? ntl , sky or chorus

Mountjoy Mugger

Ntl.

jonski

Phoned Chorus today , girl on the phone said they would NOT have it in their line up and they would have to talk to sky first before adding it .

Mossy Monk

why would they have to talk to Sky?

byte

Yeah, if anyone, they'd have to talk to Channel4/Film4 I'd have thought

paulm17781

Mossy Monk wrote:

why would they have to talk to Sky?

Easiest to make the competition sound evil.

I completely forgot to check for this despite me considering paying for film 4 for some time.

jonski

paulm17781 wrote:

Easiest to make the competition sound evil.

I think they actually get some of their channels from them .

loyatemu

its on NTL MMDS as well
Film4 and Film4 +1

gerryo

loyatemu wrote:

its on NTL MMDS as well
Film4 and Film4 +1

It's still displaying a banner saying "you have not subscribed..." in Galway.

Anyone know if it's just on the NTL MMDS extra packages or maybe it's on the NTL MMDS basic package in some parts of the country?

Please confirm!

loyatemu

gerryo wrote:

It's still displaying a banner saying "you have not subscribed..." in Galway.

Anyone know if it's just on the NTL MMDS extra packages or maybe it's on the NTL MMDS basic package in some parts of the country?

Please confirm!

i have the extra digital channels and I'm getting it
probably not available if you're only getting the base 17 (or whatever) channels

gerryo

loyatemu wrote:

i have the extra digital channels and I'm getting it
probably not available if you're only getting the base 17 (or whatever) channels

Right!, thought it might be something like that.
NTL's "basic" package is looking very basic indeed these days, no ITV 2/3, no BBC 3/4 & now no Film4.

Must look & see what's available on FTA sat these days (.. off to Satellite forum).

Goolay

jonski wrote:

Phoned Chorus today , girl on the phone said they would NOT have it in their line up and they would have to talk to sky first before adding it .

:mad: Bah! Why must Chorus insist on being so utterly ****e?

subway

gerryo wrote:

Right!, thought it might be something like that.
NTL's "basic" package is looking very basic indeed these days, no ITV 2/3, no BBC 3/4 & now no Film4.

Must look & see what's available on FTA sat these days (.. off to Satellite forum).

do they have itv 2/3 on any of their packages?

super_furry

They have BBC 3/4 on their basic alright.

subway

super_furry wrote:

They have BBC 3/4 on their basic alright.

but that wasnt the question

Mossy Monk

no ITV 2/3 on Chrorus or ntl

gerryo

super_furry wrote:

They have BBC 3/4 on their basic alright.

Not on NTL MMDS basic

I thought NTL MMDS basic ~= NTL digital basic, however, it seems MMDS is the poor relation.

Also MMDS basic does not have $ky movies 10.

Costs the same, though. :rolleyes:

10000maniacs

here is the email i sent to NTL about the lack of film4 on the basic digital package:
Now that Film4 is free, why is it not free for me on NTL Digital?
To me E4 and Film 4 are the only reason I choose NTL over a Sky Digital
Free to view card because all of the ITV and BBC channels are free on a
Sky FTV card.

Here is the reply:
Thank you for your email. I can advise that the Film Four is available
on the Digital Max Package which is €10.00 per month, so you need to be
subscribed to this package to receive Film Four Free.

If you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us
on 1800 321 321 or once again e-mail us on customer.support@ntl.ie

So you have to pay €5.00 extra to get Film4 Free.
I am considering sticking back up my satellite dish, using my FTV card and dumping NTL.

Channels i won't get that I watched occasionally on NTL (Not Free on Satellite)
E4
MTV
Setanta (No Saturday Premiership next season so I won't miss that at all)

Extra Channels i will get on Satellite for free (Not on NTL)
ITV2
ITV3
ITV4
Film4
Interactive BBC and Sky News

NTL Price = €27 PM

Satellite FTA price = €0 PM

watty

It's cable, nothing is free. So anyway in the €10 pack is not bad.

If you want really free you need FTA satellite or TV aerial, though still a TV licence, Electricity and buying the gear

FTV needs a UK card.

You mean FTA

NO card at all is needed for ITV, BBC, Film 4.

C4 and Five and Sky3 use the UK FTV card (one of £21.50 to a UK postcode address, inc N.I.)

Mossy Monk

10000maniacs wrote:

Setanta (No Saturday Premiership next season so I won't miss that at all)[/B]

yes there will be. Setanta bought the rights to the 3pm games. RTÉ are the ones who wont have the games next season

Skyhater

Mossy Monk wrote:

yes there will be. Setanta bought the rights to the 3pm games. RTÉ are the ones who wont have the games next season

Next season won't be any different to last season... Both Setanta and RTE will share the 3pm Sat Games.
The new three year deal (where setanta have all the 3pm sat games for Ireland + other games for UK and Ireland) begins with the 2007-08 season!

10000maniacs

I remember reading somewhere that Setanta will be a subscription channel on NTL Ireland when the new footie deal (2007-08 according to Skyhater) kicks in. It makes sense because they paid so much for the rights.

Anyway Watty back to the original point, i already have a Pace reciever and an FTV card, its just in storage.
My core point was the fact that Film4 was not included in the basic digital NTL package while it can be picked up free to air on any digital satellite receiver. My anger is not about the extra €5.00, its the principle that they are treating Film4 as a "Max" channel when it should be a "Basic" channel.:mad:
Time to get my ladder out.:)

gerryo

10000maniacs wrote:

..My anger is not about the extra €5.00, its the principle that they are treating Film4 as a "Max" channel when it should be a "Basic" channel.:mad:
Time to get my ladder out.:)

Guess this is NTL's way of making a bit more $$, market it as an "extra" channel, means it makes the "digital choice" package a bit more attractive.

Wonder what will happen when (as some people predict) Setanta goes subscription when the new footie season starts?

I don't see anything to replace it that's a good fit, so will they replace it with another sport channel, or maybe throw in a few FTA channels as a replacement?

As for the "ladder", yeah, sat's looking more attractive now.

Let's see.. of the 19 channels provided on the basic package, 4 are terrestrial (possible more are in some places) at least 4 others are FTA.

Not sure about the rest, but it's got to the stage where the second MMDS box is poor value compared to a FTA sat box, the initial outlay will pay back in about 1~2 years at most.

Mossy Monk

perhaps the extra football the season after next wont be on Setanta Ireland and instead will be shown on Setanta 1 or 2, leaving Setanta Ireland on the basic ntl

Skyhater

Mossy Monk wrote:

perhaps the extra football the season after next wont be on Setanta Ireland and instead will be shown on Setanta 1 or 2, leaving Setanta Ireland on the basic ntl

That's my understanding of their plan Mossy.... The 3pm Sat Game will continue on Setanta Ireland, while Setanta Sports 1/2 (which are subscription channels on all formats) will have the other live games.

Also, RTE won the rights to the Higlight package a few weeks ago (may have been covered on another thread.... appologies if it has). It is an extended package which also covers Highlights of Sunday and Midweek games.

Mossy Monk

yes, it runs until 2010

icdg

10000maniacs wrote:

Anyway Watty back to the original point, i already have a Pace reciever and an FTV card, its just in storage.
My core point was the fact that Film4 was not included in the basic digital NTL package while it can be picked up free to air on any digital satellite receiver. My anger is not about the extra €5.00, its the principle that they are treating Film4 as a "Max" channel when it should be a "Basic" channel.:mad:
Time to get my ladder out.:)

Before anyone gets out ladders, remember that for some time after its introduction, the "max" package was the basic Go Digital package. The smaller basic package is a comparatively recent introduction and is to try and pick up people who otherwise wouldn't have gone diigtal (so that eventually, analogue can be switched off...) A film channel might be regarded as a luxury in that case.