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Quinn Direct + Provisional makes 1.6 Diesel too powerfull

  • 18-07-2006 8:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭


    Can get a quote from almost ever insurance company in the country for a 1.6 diesel (have 5ncb and no claims) but quinn direct (my current company) won't even quote me.... seems its too powerfull a car becuase i am still on Provisional (don't start, thats not what the thread is about)....

    roll on the 10th of september and I can leave that shower.....:cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    I am sorry, I have to. You have managed to accure 5 years of no claims but haven't sat the test?

    I am glad they won't quote you TBH. Perhaps they are thinking that if you can't sit / pass a test in 5 years you aren't a very good driver?

    MrP


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    MrPudding wrote:
    I am glad they won't quote you TBH. Perhaps they are thinking that if you can't sit / pass a test in 5 years you aren't a very good driver?

    MrP

    Dude in all fairness there are many reasons as to why he could be on his provisional and nobody needs to be having a go at him about it!!


    What diesel is it that you are getting???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    jhegarty wrote:
    Can get a quote from almost ever insurance company in the country for a 1.6 diesel (have 5ncb and no claims) but quinn direct (my current company) won't even quote me.... seems its too powerfull a car becuase i am still on Provisional (don't start, thats not what the thread is about)....

    roll on the 10th of september and I can leave that shower.....:cool:

    how old are you man, you must be at least 22. 17+5 years of driving.

    Well i am 23 and quinn will quote me online on a 1.9 tdi passat fot 1948 euro third party fire and theft and I only started driving this year, provisional.

    Which is what i am paying on my 1.3 petrol corolla


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    jonny24ie wrote:
    Dude in all fairness there are many reasons as to why he could be on his provisional and nobody needs to be having a go at him about it!!


    What diesel is it that you are getting???


    thanks jonny , as I said thats not what the thread is about (Didn't do a test the first two years (my fault) I failed a test for not making enough progress, waited a year and got a date that I was away for work so waited another year and this time failed for going too quickly.... so I am back on the list again)

    Getting a Peugeot 407 (in september now when the renewal comes up)...I also asked about the 1.6 diesel 207 and thats the same story... driving a 1.1l 106 at the moment.....

    And its not just me , they won't quote any provisional on the car (they say).....

    *edit

    Vegeta I am 27


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    If you tell them you have been in touch with the Insurance Federation about the matter and that they have to quote you on the car they will!! The only problem with that is they will hammer you for a renewal next year!!! Same happened my brother, he was offered a Glanza non-turbo only in from Japan by a mehanic mate really cheap and they wouldn't quote him but when he said he would get onto the IF they quoted him!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭DBK


    Unless you're female.:mad: When I was selling my 1.6 motor, a mate of mine (male) asked to buy it and couldn't get a quote on it as he was on a provisional. He had 3 yr NCB. My girlfriend then rang, only driving 3 weeks, and got a quote no problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    DBK wrote:
    Unless you're female.:mad: When I was selling my 1.6 motor, a mate of mine (male) asked to buy it and couldn't get a quote on it as he was on a provisional. He had 3 yr NCB. My girlfriend then rang, only driving 3 weeks, and got a quote no problem.


    I wish*


    *for the purpose of car insurance only :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭Revalco


    Worry about getting your licence, i think is your best train of thought.

    Probaly Quinn Direct are asking the same questions as MrPudding hence why they wont qutoe you.

    Goodluck anyway (when you do the test :) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    jhegarty wrote:
    Can get a quote from almost ever insurance company in the country for a 1.6 diesel (have 5ncb and no claims) but quinn direct (my current company) won't even quote me.... seems its too powerfull a car becuase i am still on Provisional (don't start, thats not what the thread is about)....

    roll on the 10th of september and I can leave that shower.....:cool:

    That's exactly what the thread's about, they won't quote you because in 5 years you still haven't managed to pass your driving test. How you think this is unreasonable is quite frankly beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Anan1 wrote:
    That's exactly what the thread's about, they won't quote you because in 5 years you still haven't managed to pass your driving test. How you think this is unreasonable is quite frankly beyond me.

    yet they'll quote me and I have been driving about one tenth the time the OP has and i don't have my full either.

    at least he has more experience, even if it is on a provisional. He is also 4 years older than me. That's why it is unreasonable.

    surely i am a higher risk than he is but yet they'll quote me and not him. doesn't make sense really


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    To the best of my knowledge 110bhp is their cut off point for provisional licenses, petrol or diesel, age, gender, or engine size doesn't realy come into it. The peugeot is just at the cut off, it's tough, but it they apply it to all provisional licence holders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Vegeta wrote:
    yet they'll quote me and I have been driving about one tenth the time the OP has and i don't have my full either.

    at least he has more experience, even if it is on a provisional. He is also 4 years older than me. That's why it is unreasonable.

    surely i am a higher risk than he is but yet they'll quote me and not him. doesn't make sense really

    The OP feels that it's unreasonable to deny him cover on a particular car on the basis that he hasn't yet managed to pass his test. As insurance companies reasons for refusing to quote go, I think an inability to pass the driving test is a pretty good one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    They insured me on a 206 gti (137Bhp), If you buy the car and phone up to swap the policy over they will have to.

    Edit: 22, provisional, 0 NCB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Anan1 wrote:
    The OP feels that it's unreasonable to deny him cover on a particular car on the basis that he hasn't yet managed to pass his test. As insurance companies reasons for refusing to quote go, I think an inability to pass the driving test is a pretty good one.

    Yup and he'd be right, again they'll insure me (I have not passed my test either) and not him.

    So both of us have not passed our test. We have something in common. So what other aspects could they judge us on. Age which is widely used to give quotes (he's 27 and I am 23) and years driving, He has 5 and I have 6 months.

    So i think he has the right to be a little puzzled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    mloc123 wrote:
    They insured me on a 206 gti (137Bhp), If you buy the car and phone up to swap the policy over they will have to.

    Edit: 22, provisional, 0 NCB

    Only until your next renewal. What are you going to do after that?

    Vegeta wrote:
    Yup and he'd be right, again they'll insure me (I have not passed my test either) and not him.

    So both of us have not passed our test. We have something in common. So what other aspects could they judge us on. Age which is widely used to give quotes (he's 27 and I am 23) and years driving, He has 5 and I have 6 months.

    So i think he has the right to be a little puzzled.

    No. There are 90bhp, 100bhp and 105bhp variants of the 1.9TDi, I'd imagine it was one of these variants you were quoted on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Vegeta wrote:
    Yup and he'd be right, again they'll insure me (I have not passed my test either) and not him.

    So both of us have not passed our test. We have something in common. So what other aspects could they judge us on. Age which is widely used to give quotes (he's 27 and I am 23) and years driving, He has 5 and I have 6 months.

    So i think he has the right to be a little puzzled.


    exactly, its more puzzled than anything else... its not the fact that they won't quote me , but that after 5 years with them they are the only company who won't....

    its not a big issue just have to wait till september (renewal time will come before test)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    alias no.9 wrote:
    Only until your next renewal. What are you going to do after that?

    No. There are 90bhp, 100bhp and 105bhp variants of the 1.9TDi, I'd imagine it was one of these variants you were quoted on.

    The 1.9TDI 100bhp was what i got a quote for online. The 1.9TDI 130bhp required a phone call as they wouldn't quote me online

    EDIT: I just rechecked the quote and today it is 1547 euro on the 100bhp 1.9TDI, even cheaper than when i did it on sunday night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Vegeta wrote:
    The 1.9TDI 100bhp was what i got a quote for online. The 1.9TDI 130bhp required a phone call as they wouldn't quote me online

    so it would seem the cut off is between 100bhp and 110 bhp ....


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    You're not from louth by any chance jhegarty?

    They don't like us north eastern monkeys.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    jhegarty wrote:
    so it would seem the cut off is between 100bhp and 110 bhp ....


    THere should not be a cut off!! I got a quote of 23003pf&t on a 1.8 integra type R a couple of months ago.
    My details are 2 year NCB, 23YO with 2nd provisional!! the integra is 200BHP (roughly) They will even quote me on a Toyota Levin 165BHP(Standard).
    So there is no cut off so to speak!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    jhegarty wrote:
    exactly, its more puzzled than anything else... its not the fact that they won't quote me , but that after 5 years with them they are the only company who won't....

    its not a big issue just have to wait till september (renewal time will come before test)


    Try getting a quote on a 1.9TDi, either 90bhp, 100bhp or 105bhp, I'm sure they'll quote you on any of them, and cheaper than Vegeta. Once you hit 110bhp, Quinn will not insure you, or anyone else, on a provisional licence. There's nothing puzzling about it.

    My lowest quote for next year is less than €500, with many more coming in under €600, yet allianz will not quote me at all because I'm under 30 and the car is above their power threshold, even though I have a full licence and full no claims, they're the criteria they apply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    jhegarty wrote:
    so it would seem the cut off is between 100bhp and 110 bhp ....

    Yup it looks like 110bhp as the 407 1.6 diesel has that. Cos its that 10bhp that'll get ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭fletch


    Vegeta wrote:
    how old are you man, you must be at least 22. 17+5 years of driving.

    Well i am 23 and quinn will quote me online on a 1.9 tdi passat fot 1948 euro third party fire and theft and I only started driving this year, provisional.

    Which is what i am paying on my 1.3 petrol corolla
    They quoted me under €1k on a Skoda 1.9Tdi vrs 130bhp and I'm 22 with 2yrs NCB living in Dublin.....weird...oh I have a full licence 2 years also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    so to sum up quinn direct have a cut off of just below 110bph without a full licence...

    and I should do my test....


    I think we can let this thread die now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    alias no.9 wrote:
    Only until your next renewal. What are you going to do after that?

    Take my chances, if they don't renew I'll switch to britton insurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Vegeta wrote:
    Yup and he'd be right, again they'll insure me (I have not passed my test either) and not him.

    So both of us have not passed our test. We have something in common. So what other aspects could they judge us on. Age which is widely used to give quotes (he's 27 and I am 23) and years driving, He has 5 and I have 6 months.

    So i think he has the right to be a little puzzled.

    Based on this, I'd say you have more of a right to be puzzled than the OP!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Anan1 wrote:
    Based on this, I'd say you have more of a right to be puzzled than the OP!;)

    That's true!

    http://www.topgear.com/CarServlet?event=22&page=/jsp/212.jsp&err=/jsp.error.html

    hope that link works the top gear web site has a cool thing where you can compare cars and these are nearly identical


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    alias no.9 wrote:
    To the best of my knowledge 110bhp is their cut off point for provisional licenses, petrol or diesel, age, gender, or engine size doesn't realy come into it. The peugeot is just at the cut off, it's tough, but it they apply it to all provisional licence holders.
    I got a quote on a 97 Mazda 323, 1.5L, and i only got my provisional last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Tauren wrote:
    I got a quote on a 97 Mazda 323, 1.5L, and i only got my provisional last week

    That's wonderful, but what's your point?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Rudolph Claus


    Lol, he just thought he`d share that with us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    I thought there was a physical limit of how long you can be on a provisional?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    Hobbes wrote:
    I thought there was a physical limit of how long you can be on a provisional?
    You can only get your 3rd provision with proof of application or failure of a driving test and same applies for 4th and so on. You have to have attempted your test or booked one before you can renew yoru 3rd or subsequent provisional.


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