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Setting up a static ip

  • 11-07-2006 07:48PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭


    I know this question has probably been asked before but I have read alot on this and still have no luck.
    I have an eircom connection with a netopia router. I need to port forward and I have got this already set up. Now I need to set up a static ip.

    Do I need to set up TCP/IP properties or do I have to change something on the router as well?
    Thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭DemonOfTheFall


    Set your static IP in TCP/IP properties in the control panel.

    It'd be much easier for you to just turn on uPNP on the router and use a client such as uTorrent which will forward the ports for you with uPNP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭techie


    If you mean a Public static Ip for mail etc. then you need to contact Eircom sales to assign a static IP to your line, all they ask you to do then is restart the router and the new static ip address is active on the public side of your connection and then you can port forward from the router itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    Im setting it up for p2p. Do I actually have to ring them and ask them to give me a static address or should I just have one? I assume that a static ip won't cost me extra?
    Thanks for your help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭Auvers


    colly10 wrote:
    Im setting it up for p2p. Do I actually have to ring them and ask them to give me a static address or should I just have one? I assume that a static ip won't cost me extra?
    Thanks for your help.

    http://www.portforward.com/networking/static-xp.htm


  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    For the purposes you need a static ip for, you'd have to ring them and pay for a static IP.

    I don't know whether they provide it on residential packages or not though, so you might even have to upgrade to a business package.

    If I were you, I'd use something other than Direct Connect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    Auvers wrote:

    I tried this earlier and I tried it again to make sure, I can still connect to the web but I am still getting a lowid in emule so this must not be working correctly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭DemonOfTheFall


    What are you guys all talking about ?!?!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!! Where does he even mention direct connect ?

    The guy is asking for a static IP on his own private network. You definitely do not have to pay for one of those.

    Do what I said in the first reply


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    CuLT wrote:
    For the purposes you need a static ip for, you'd have to ring them and pay for a static IP.

    I don't know whether they provide it on residential packages or not though, so you might even have to upgrade to a business package.

    If I were you, I'd use something other than Direct Connect.

    Thanks, what would you suggest I use? I know a few people who use emule that don't suffer from this lowid problem that definitly arn't paying extra for an ip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    You need to set an IP that is outside the scope of the DHCP server on the router and is unique (so you don't get conflicts)

    You then manually enter the DNS address (use the routers gateway IP, simplest solution) and the default gateway address in the settings on your net card config pages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    Set your static IP in TCP/IP properties in the control panel.

    It'd be much easier for you to just turn on uPNP on the router and use a client such as uTorrent which will forward the ports for you with uPNP

    uPNP was switched on, I downloaded uTorrent then tested the defualt port on it to see if it forwards properly, it doesn't work :confused:


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  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    What are you guys all talking about ?!?!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!! Where does he even mention direct connect ?

    The guy is asking for a static IP on his own private network. You definitely do not have to pay for one of those.

    Do what I said in the first reply
    The only times I've ever seen someone looking for a static IP for a p2p is when they're using DC.

    You either need a static IP, set up DynDNS in some funky manner (I guess) or use passive mode.

    OFC you don't need to purchase a static IP for your internal network, so if that's all that's needed then obviously setting up port forwarding is the way to go.

    Trying to direct someone through setting up port forwarding always end up in tears or very, very long diatribes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    You need to set an IP that is outside the scope of the DHCP server on the router and is unique (so you don't get conflicts)

    At the moment my ip is inside "DHCP Start Address" and "DHCP Start Address" on my router so I assume that changing the last digit on "DHCP Start Address" on my router would solve this problem? Also how would I know that my ip was unique?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    ok need a few bits of info and i'm not going to read the thread to get em so:

    What router are you using? Operating system?

    What are the Start and (i think you meant) Finish addresses of your DHCP server? You need to give your computer an IP that is OUTSIDE of this scope, how many devices connect that need an IP. You will know that it is unique because it will not be assigned by the DHCP server (see the config page on your router for the list of valid IP leases) and because it will work. Common symtoms of IP conflict are non working connections or the first device turned on works but not others.

    MC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    CuLT wrote:
    Trying to direct someone through setting up port forwarding always end up in tears or very, very long diatribes.

    I origionally thought that port forwarding was all I needed to do but it doesn't seem to be, here are my settings which im almost positive are right.

    Nat is enabled and these services are allowed (TCP and UDP)

    forward.JPG

    Details of the 2 services -

    tcp.JPG

    udp.JPG

    Emule port settings -

    emule.JPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    What router are you using? Operating system?

    What are the Start and (i think you meant) Finish addresses of your DHCP server? You need to give your computer an IP that is OUTSIDE of this scope, how many devices connect that need an IP. You will know that it is unique because it will not be assigned by the DHCP server (see the config page on your router for the list of valid IP leases) and because it will work. Common symtoms of IP conflict are non working connections or the first device turned on works but not others.

    MC

    OS: XP Home SP2
    Router: Netopia 2247NWG

    Im not sure how many devices connect tbh.
    Here are my ip settings etc ..

    connect.jpg

    ip.jpg

    dhcp.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭DemonOfTheFall


    Aha! The netopia firewall strikes again. Choose firewall in the left hand panel and set it to "Off". Then all will work...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭DemonOfTheFall


    CuLT wrote:
    The only times I've ever seen someone looking for a static IP for a p2p is when they're using DC.
    You either need a static IP, set up DynDNS in some funky manner (I guess) or use passive mode.
    OFC you don't need to purchase a static IP for your internal network, so if that's all that's needed then obviously setting up port forwarding is the way to go.
    Trying to direct someone through setting up port forwarding always end up in tears or very, very long diatribes.

    He needs a static IP on his internal network so that his PC is always at the address that his incoming emule requests are forwarded to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Ok that is a manually assigned IP so next is the setting up of the pinholes in the router firewall. Have to google.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Demon > you familiar with setting the firewall pinholes for the Netopias?


    This will come in handy

    http://www.netopia.com/support/hardware/2247w.html

    This even more so:
    http://www.netopia.com/support/hardware/technotes/CQG_025.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    Ok that is a manually assigned IP so next is the setting up of the pinholes in the router firewall. Have to google.....

    This is port-forwarding? I have already set up port forwarding, my settings for it are shown in a few of my images above (the post before my ip images)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Next step is to open the ports in the router firewall so that incoming connections can reach eMule. Have a gander at the 2nd link in my post above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭DemonOfTheFall


    Firewall Pinholes = Port Forwarding When you're talking about routers.

    It looks like you have everything set up right. Just turn the netopia firewall to "Off".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    And what about the windows firewall? Are you using that or have you turned it off?

    As Demon suggests temporarily disable the firewall in the router and test the connection. If it works then that is your problem. You need to open the ports in the firewall before it will work with it turned on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭colly10


    And what about the windows firewall? Are you using that or have you turned it off?

    As Demon suggests temporarily disable the firewall in the router and test the connection. If it works then that is your problem. You need to open the ports in the firewall before it will work with it turned on.

    I have Zone Alarm installed so I should be alright I assume, setting the router firewall to low does the job. I asume that leaving it on low is safe enough because im running ZA anyway?

    Thanks everyone for your help :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Yeah you SHOULD be ok, only thing is if you ever need to do some debugging regarding ports then you will have remove ZA not just disable it as it continues to block ports in that state.

    I would suggest you set the pinholes in the router firewall in the longterm.

    MC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭Foxwood


    colly10 wrote:
    I know this question has probably been asked before but I have read alot on this and still have no luck.
    I have an eircom connection with a netopia router. I need to port forward and I have got this already set up. Now I need to set up a static ip.
    No, you don't need to set up a static IP.

    Unless you have a couple of dozen machines on your LAN, and you often leave your machine turned off for weeks at a time, your machine will get the same DHCP address every time it asks. It will be, for all intents and purposes, static.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Problem semi already solved, you snooze you lose... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭DemonOfTheFall


    Yeah you SHOULD be ok, only thing is if you ever need to do some debugging regarding ports then you will have remove ZA not just disable it as it continues to block ports in that state.

    I would suggest you set the pinholes in the router firewall in the longterm.

    MC

    He has already forwarded the ports and set the router firewall to low. This means that those ports are pinholed, and that the router is still actively rejecting connections on all non-pinholed ports.

    I think the Netopia modem in question is one of the easiest pieces of kit to work with Ive ever had, dont know how it causes so much confusion on here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Possibly coz they're POS? Don't know them but wouldn't let one of them in the door, way too much trouble for the average Joe to setup.


    And as regards setting the firewall to low??? Long term this is just asking for trouble using eMule with effectivly no boundry firewall. Proper setup is to open the relevent ports only.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭DemonOfTheFall


    SETTING THE FIREWALL TO LOW CONTINUES TO BLOCK ALL PORTS WHICH HAVE NOT EXPLICITLY BEEN ALLOWED/FORWARDED/PINHOLED!

    Please read the thread and see how many times I have said this.

    How do you know that they're POSs if you've never even used them ? If you haven't used them what are you even doing in this thread infact ?!

    There's a rule in the computing forum : If you know nothing, don't try to help. It definitely applies in this thread.


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