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Would you report a potential drunk driver?

  • 01-07-2006 03:03PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭


    Myself and my girlfriend were getting into our car after a night out and saw a guy stagger up to his car and sit in to the drivers seat, this was at about 10pm. He was clearly drunk, he spoke to us as he walked passed, slurring his speech etc.

    I considered calling the gardai but my girlfriend was of the other opinion, to just leave it. Sure if he lost his licence for 2 years he may loose his job etc but he could also kill someone on the road too.

    What do you think? Would you have reported him or just left it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Doomspell


    I would have waited a few minutes to see if he was just going to sit in the car or actually drive it, but I would definately report him. Purely because, you can loose your job but you can get another one, but if you loose your life, theres no going back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,213 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Have done it before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭mikeanywhere


    Would report it without any hesitation. Been on the receiving end of a drunkard behind a wheel and it aint fun!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Anto McC


    Without a doubt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭mad m


    On the blower in an act....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭LovelyHurling


    I was out driving a few months ago out in the countryside around Stewartstown in Tyrone, on some really windy roads. It was about 3-4am and I caught up with a car going about 50kmph driving on the complete opposite of the road. He had minimal control of the car, anyway when I could pass I pulled out and stopped him. He was too drunk to understand what I was giving out about. I drove him home and told my brother who is a policeman about it and theyve been keeping an eye on him leaving a local pub since. But apprently his drink driving has been tolerated by the local police because he is a bachelor farmer with 'no other means of getting home'. Bull**** or what. It really pissed me off, if I was coming in the opposite direction, travelling as I was at about 70kmph, we would almost definitely have crashed.

    The guy is an ass for doing it. But Id like to know what the sober people who undoubtedly know what he gets up to, think they are playing at by going along with this (it seems regular) occurance. So yes,definitely report them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,658 ✭✭✭PowerHouseDan


    I have done it 3 times... 2 times the Gaurds asked me to try and stay with the car until they reach it. usually took approx 4 min each time for them to get there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    He was in the car. Report him. The offence is "Drunk in Charge". You don't have to be driving. In fact, if you're a full licence holder, drunk, and passenger in a car driven by a first provisional holder, you're drunk in charge and can be prosecuted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Doomspell


    Thats completely wrong! The gardaì should arrest or fine no matter who you are or what age you are!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    I have done it before and would do it again, yes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    You would be just as irresponsible as the drunk driver if you didnt, i would without a second thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭John R


    Definitely. Losing your job is reasonable punishment for driving pissed IMO.

    I reported a work colleague in the past. He was fond of having a skinful in my local and driving 10 miles home despite the fact there was a pub 5 minutes walk from his place. I warned him that if I saw his car in the carpark I would be reporting him. A few weeks later his car was there, I went back at closing time and as soon as I saw him stumbling towards the car I called the police. As this was in the UK he had barely got out of the carpark before they nabbed him.

    He got a large fine, was banned from driving for 2 years and his career as a professional driver ruined. I feel no guilt about it whatsoever.

    It turned out that he had turned up to work drunk previously and had been taken home by some of the other drivers, I was expecting grief over it but even his mates seemed relieved that he was caught as they felt stuck covering for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    You would be just as irresponsible as the drunk driver if you didnt.

    Don't agree with that.

    The drunk driver has to be responsible for his actions. If he crashes and kills someone he should be prosecuted and no attempt should be made to dilute his guilt / sentence by trying to blame bystanders who may be guilty of not reporting him.

    In response to the original poster - yes I would report him.

    Not reporting the drunk driver is irresponsible
    but
    driving under the influence of alcohol is more irresponsible.

    They are not the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭John R


    I was out driving a few months ago out in the countryside around Stewartstown in Tyrone, on some really windy roads. It was about 3-4am and I caught up with a car going about 50kmph driving on the complete opposite of the road. He had minimal control of the car, anyway when I could pass I pulled out and stopped him. He was too drunk to understand what I was giving out about. I drove him home and told my brother who is a policeman about it and theyve been keeping an eye on him leaving a local pub since. But apprently his drink driving has been tolerated by the local police because he is a bachelor farmer with 'no other means of getting home'. Bull**** or what. It really pissed me off, if I was coming in the opposite direction, travelling as I was at about 70kmph, we would almost definitely have crashed.

    The guy is an ass for doing it. But Id like to know what the sober people who undoubtedly know what he gets up to, think they are playing at by going along with this (it seems regular) occurance. So yes,definitely report them


    Welcome to culchie land, different rules apply here; as long as the local piggy drinks in the pub that is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭abetarrush


    I would, for his own sake, and the sake of anyone he'd kill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭LovelyHurling


    John R wrote:
    Welcome to culchie land, different rules apply here; as long as the local piggy drinks in the pub that is.

    I actually grew up in such a 'culchieland' and police indifference/ toleration of this type of crime is not the norm. Bad apples in the Police aren't a problem restricted to the countryside tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Reported him. Straight off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    i've done it in a round-about way.
    i sometimes drink with my cop buddies and have pointed out regular drink drivers to them in my local.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    I personally would not report a person for drunken driving as where I live a car means freedom and you are very much f*cked without one. I would however try and intervene and if I knew the person give them a spin home or else volunteer to call a taxi, or try to get someone to drive him home.

    Being "Bagged" would ruin your entire setup for about 7yrs, I know a guy who works in the buildings and went for one pint after work in the heat of the summer a few yrs back, and he was bagged and put off the road for two years. It cost him over €30,000 between the cost of solicitors fees having to find alternative transport over those years and his insurance skyrocketed after eventually getting back on the road.

    I think reporting a person is a cowardly thing to do and I would ask the question, How would you like if it was done to yourself? Living in rural Ireland, which lacks in everything to be put off the road would be disastrous. I know a fella who is off for the next 6yrs and I can tell you that poor chap has suffered enough. I have often been a passenger with a driver who was over the limit in this country and others and have never came a cropper. I find drunks to be usually driving slowly and trying their full best to concentrate.

    It is the little W*nkers of my own age bracket (19 in my case) 18 - 25 to be killing the country driving around in "Sooped" up little Micras and Honda Civics doing about 90 miles an hour thinking that they are in a rally or in “The fast and the Furious movie”. These chavbos are killing the people, while the likes of myself who has a normal car (A BMW 316 1596cc) it is totally unmodified and very safe, to be penalised then with high insurance. It is one thing to drive at 80Mph on the dual carriageway or motorway but these muppets doing these speeds on roads designed for horse & cart in cars built no stronger than a coke can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭padi89


    You would be just as irresponsible as the drunk driver if you didnt.

    Dont agree with you there at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    netwhizkid wrote:
    I personally would not report a person for drunken driving as where I live a car means freedom and you are very much f*cked without one. I would however try and intervene and if I knew the person give them a spin home or else volunteer to call a taxi, or try to get someone to drive him home.

    Being "Bagged" would ruin your entire setup for about 7yrs, I know a guy who works in the buildings and went for one pint after work in the heat of the summer a few yrs back, and he was bagged and put off the road for two years. It cost him over €30,000 between the cost of solicitors fees having to find alternative transport over those years and his insurance skyrocketed after eventually getting back on the road.

    I think reporting a person is a cowardly thing to do and I would ask the question, How would you like if it was done to yourself? Living in rural Ireland, which lacks in everything to be put off the road would be disastrous. I know a fella who is off for the next 6yrs and I can tell you that poor chap has suffered enough. I have often been a passenger with a driver who was over the limit in this country and others and have never came a cropper. I find drunks to be usually driving slowly and trying their full best to concentrate.

    It is the little W*nkers of my own age bracket (19 in my case) 18 - 25 to be killing the country driving around in "Sooped" up little Micras and Honda Civics doing about 90 miles an hour thinking that they are in a rally or in “The fast and the Furious movie”. These chavbos are killing the people, while the likes of myself who has a normal car (A BMW 316 1596cc) it is totally unmodified and very safe, to be penalised then with high insurance. It is one thing to drive at 80Mph on the dual carriageway or motorway but these muppets doing these speeds on roads designed for horse & cart in cars built no stronger than a coke can.
    cowardly?
    well i wish some coward would have reported the prick who ran my father over, resulting in an agonising six week stay in hospital, during which time his leg was amputated and eventually he died.
    or maybe i should just forgive him because he just needed his freedom.

    you really have a lot of growing up to do, kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    netwhizkid wrote:
    I personally would not report a person for drunken driving as where I live a car means freedom and you are very much f*cked without one.

    Ok fair enough, but in that case, besides all the other implications of drink driving, people should have enough cop on to realise that if they risk losing their licence they're risking their 'freedom'

    Being "Bagged" would ruin your entire setup for about 7yrs, I know a guy who works in the buildings and went for one pint after work in the heat of the summer a few yrs back, and he was bagged and put off the road for two years. It cost him over €30,000 between the cost of solicitors fees having to find alternative transport over those years and his insurance skyrocketed after eventually getting back on the road.

    Moral of the story? Don't break the law, it's not worth it :)
    I think reporting a person is a cowardly thing to do and I would ask the question, How would you like if it was done to yourself?

    Couldn't tell you because it will never happen! I don't particularly want to kill anyone else or myself, just this funny thing I've got...

    And as for the original question, I'd call and report someone in an instant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    Doomspell wrote:
    I would have waited a few minutes to see if he was just going to sit in the car or actually drive it, but I would definately report him. Purely because, you can loose your job but you can get another one, but if you loose your life, theres no going back.

    Absolutely!!! I've done it in the past too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭LovelyHurling


    netwhizkid wrote:
    I think reporting a person is a cowardly thing to do and I would ask the question, How would you like if it was done to yourself?

    You seem to be presuming that people here are chronic drink drivers who try to undermine the law. You should take it for granted that if you drink and drive, you'll not get away with it, and the only person to blame for the loss of a license is the driver himself (or herself).

    How would you feel if you let someone drive home and they knocked down your parent or sibling? Its not your responsibility to stop them, they're clearly idiots, but it is the decent thing to do. If you dont report them thats obviously fine, its your own choice. But suggesting that other people who do are cowards...???

    Chancing that you may get hassled by his mates, by the driver himself, or seen as a squeek for your own principles...How exactly is it "cowardly" to report a drunk driver?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    No excuse for it, report.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    padi89 wrote:
    Dont agree with you there at all.

    LOL, thought about it and i dont actually agree with myself :o , but still think its important to report the guy. I would feel **** if i didnt and he had an accident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭John R


    netwhizkid wrote:
    I personally would not report a person for drunken driving as where I live a car means freedom and you are very much f*cked without one.

    No. You are very much fcuked when hit at 50mph by some wanker who thinks that living a few miles from the pub is reason enough for the law not to apply to him.
    netwhizkid wrote:
    I would however try and intervene and if I knew the person give them a spin home or else volunteer to call a taxi, or try to get someone to drive him home.

    And when the drunk told you to piss off 'cause he is fine to <hic> drive, what do you do then?
    netwhizkid wrote:
    Being "Bagged" would ruin your entire setup for about 7yrs, I know a guy who works in the buildings and went for one pint after work in the heat of the summer a few yrs back, and he was bagged and put off the road for two years. It cost him over €30,000 between the cost of solicitors fees having to find alternative transport over those years and his insurance skyrocketed after eventually getting back on the road.

    Boo fukking hoo, if it is such a terrible ordeal then why drink drive in the first place?

    Every story I have heard from tossers caught drink driving say the same thing; It's ALWAYS just one pint and they've been hard done by.
    netwhizkid wrote:
    I think reporting a person is a cowardly thing to do

    No, the cowardly thing to do is to let it slide, either you approve of drink driving or not, if not and you won't do anything about it then what does that make you?
    netwhizkid wrote:
    and I would ask the question, How would you like if it was done to yourself?

    But it won't be done to me Because I do not drink and drive.
    netwhizkid wrote:
    Living in rural Ireland, which lacks in everything to be put off the road would be disastrous. I know a fella who is off for the next 6yrs and I can tell you that poor chap has suffered enough. I have often been a passenger with a driver who was over the limit in this country and others and have never came a cropper.


    Oh well then it MUST be safe, forget all of that stupid imperical data. Some child in rural Ireland says it's OK so it must be. :rolleyes:
    netwhizkid wrote:
    I find drunks to be usually driving slowly and trying their full best to concentrate.

    Are you seriously suggesting that that makes them safe???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    netwhizkid wrote:
    I personally would not report a person for drunken driving as where I live a car means freedom and you are very much f*cked without one. I would however try and intervene and if I knew the person give them a spin home or else volunteer to call a taxi, or try to get someone to drive him home.

    Being "Bagged" would ruin your entire setup for about 7yrs, I know a guy who works in the buildings and went for one pint after work in the heat of the summer a few yrs back, and he was bagged and put off the road for two years. It cost him over €30,000 between the cost of solicitors fees having to find alternative transport over those years and his insurance skyrocketed after eventually getting back on the road.

    I think reporting a person is a cowardly thing to do and I would ask the question, How would you like if it was done to yourself? Living in rural Ireland, which lacks in everything to be put off the road would be disastrous. I know a fella who is off for the next 6yrs and I can tell you that poor chap has suffered enough. I have often been a passenger with a driver who was over the limit in this country and others and have never came a cropper. I find drunks to be usually driving slowly and trying their full best to concentrate.

    It is the little W*nkers of my own age bracket (19 in my case) 18 - 25 to be killing the country driving around in "Sooped" up little Micras and Honda Civics doing about 90 miles an hour thinking that they are in a rally or in “The fast and the Furious movie”. These chavbos are killing the people, while the likes of myself who has a normal car (A BMW 316 1596cc) it is totally unmodified and very safe, to be penalised then with high insurance. It is one thing to drive at 80Mph on the dual carriageway or motorway but these muppets doing these speeds on roads designed for horse & cart in cars built no stronger than a coke can.

    I say we start a boards hunt, catch this whizkid while drunk and driving, AND REPORT HIM :D, teach you. You obviously have no problem with drunk driving, and that is sad..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    netwhizkid wrote:
    I personally would not report a person for drunken driving as ... [insert mind-boggling half-arsed reasons here]


    What the hell? You recommend refraining from reporting crimes or committing them because it would be inconvenient to be caught?

    You are an odd, odd person.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Sarky wrote:
    What the hell? You recommend refraining from reporting crimes or committing them because it would be inconvenient to be caught?

    You are an odd, odd person.
    he's just a clueless kid.
    he will learn in time.


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