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What lit did you love (and hate) in English class?

  • 03-06-2006 3:18pm
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    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    So, when you were in school and had to do poetry, plays, short stories, novels, etc. which ones did you love and which ones did you hate?

    Loved:

    Wuthering Heights

    Romeo & Juliet

    Lord of the Flies

    "The Listeners" - Walter dela Mare

    "The Lady of Shallot" - Tennyson

    Liked most of the poetry by John Donne and GM Hopkins too. I can still recite off Pied Beauty and The Windhover from memory and the line: "when thou hast done thou hast not done, for I have more," sticks in the mind too.

    The story about how roast pork was discovered - where a Chinese guy (I think) burned down the house which contained the pigs and they discovered they actually tasted nice :)


    Hated

    Silas Marner
    Great Expectations
    King Lear
    Most of the Irish poets
    The Great Gatsby


    Anybody else got favourites and least favourites?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    <3

    Lord of the Flies
    WB Yeats
    Thomas Kinsella
    Juno & the Paycock

    :/
    Silas Marner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Over the years in school I really enjoyed Of Mice and Men, The Merchant of Venice, Macbeth, Hamlet, Remains of the Day and Antigone. The poetry of Siegfried Sassoon, Seamus Heaney, Michael Longley, Philip Larkin and Emily Dickinson also really got my motor running. On the other hand the book Reading in the Dark made me want to chew my own eyes out and the poetry of Evan Boland and Elizabeth Bishop was absolute pants. Pants I say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    Seems like a long time ago now, but course twas only 3 years for me!

    Em... Enjoyed To Kill A Mockingbird, For Whom the Bell Tolls, Lord of the Flies, all the Shakespeare (I'm quite the fan), loved poetry of Sassoon, Yeats, Owen, Mahon, etc...

    Hated Heaney, Boland, Plath (really really hated her), Emily Dickinson, The Great Gatsby (never even liked the film either).

    There's probably more but I can't recall much else at the mo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭YeAh!


    Loved: Romeo + Juliet, Emily Dickinson's poetry, Strictly Ballroom

    Hated: Wordsworth, Literary Genre of Comparative Study.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,391 ✭✭✭arbeitsscheuer


    YeAh! wrote:
    Loved: Romeo + Juliet, Emily Dickinson's poetry, Strictly Ballroom
    Hated: Wordsworth, Literary Genre of Comparative Study.
    Strictly Ballroom?
    You jammy b*stards, we never got to do that one... Maw.:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    We did Cinema Paradiso. I forgot all about the film part of the course. Cinema Paradiso was a wonderful film and one of very few movies I've seen that get better with each subsequent viewing.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    i think i did strictly ballroom and cinema paradiso, both good stuff, i liked the directors cut, toto getting it on with the hooker on the floor of the cinema :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Despised - to the very pit of my stomach - (sorry OP) Wuthering Heights.

    Liked King Lear, Lord of the flies, but didn't do it during secondary school (friend did it).

    Hated - the fact that we did ONLY one novel (mentioned above) and ONE Shakespear play in two years. Instead of a variety of riches, the overkill killed off any interest I had in literature for about six years after I finished second level education and part of me is still very bitter about that.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    i think i did strictly ballroom and cinema paradiso, both good stuff, i liked the directors cut, toto getting it on with the hooker on the floor of the cinema :p

    Director's cut? We only had the original cut. I didn't know there was a director's cut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Bodhidharma


    Loved - Shakespere, Animal Farm, Longley, Yeats, Heaney, Plath, Larkin

    Hated - Dancing at Lughnasa, Playboy of the Western World, Dickenson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Merrick


    Loved - Hamlet, Dickinson

    Hated - Amongst Women, Strictly Ballroom (grrr...), Playboy of the Western World


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GerryRyan


    Loved: Room With A View / Old Man And The Sea / Death of a Salesman

    Hated: Silas Marner / Macbeth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭meldrew


    Loved Animal Farm , The Rhyme of The Ancient Mariner
    Hated Wuthering Heights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    Loved: The A1 at the end of it all :D, Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet, To Kill a Mockingbird, Playboy of the Western World, Of Mice and Men, 'A Disused Shed in County Wexford', Derek Mahon, Emily Dickinson, Sylvia Plath, Seamus Heaney.

    Hated: Wuthering Heights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Loved: The A1 at the end of it all :D

    I could have had an A1 but I left paper 2 after 45 minutes so I had to make do with the A2 :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,762 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Loved: The A1 at the end of it all :D, Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet, To Kill a Mockingbird, Playboy of the Western World, Of Mice and Men, 'A Disused Shed in County Wexford', Derek Mahon, Emily Dickinson, Sylvia Plath, Seamus Heaney.

    Hated: Wuthering Heights.

    [QUOTE=Angry Banana
    Loved: The A1 at the end of it all [/QUOTE]

    Some people have waaay too much free time...! ;)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Loved most stuff, including Derek Mahon. I hate poetry as a rule, but I want his babies.

    Hated: Amongst Women, The Plough and the Stars, Heaney, Wordsworth etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Merrick


    John2 wrote:
    I could have had an A1 but I left paper 2 after 45 minutes so I had to make do with the A2 :p

    Hee hee, I ended up with an A2 as well :D
    Not sure how, but I managed

    I have remembered another hate: Yeats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    John2 wrote:
    the poetry of Evan Boland was absolute pants. Pants I say.

    Soooooo god awful, it almost ruined my leaving cert experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Hopkins will always be my favourite, but I never had as much fun as I did watching Strictly Ballroom. What a great film. :) Also loved Antigone, Macbeth, Frost to name but a few.

    I disliked having to study Plath, but I recognise her brilliance as a poet....If that makes sense. "The Grass is Singing" by Doris Lessing was one of the most tortuous periods in school I had. I despised it.

    I didn't mind Heaney, but I could never seem to write good essays on his poetry. Ah well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Loved: Macbeth

    Hated: Hard Times (For These Times) by Charles Dickens

    "I have never been one to call a post a pump nor a post a pump."

    Yeah, have you not? Well shut the f*ck up about it then.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Loved: The Great Gatsby, Death of a Salesman, Lord of the Flies, Huck Finn

    Hated: Waiting for Godot, poetry in general...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 442 ✭✭arctic lemur


    I loved the Merchant of Venice and Silas Marner.

    I disliked poetry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    Loved: Plough and the Stars, Heaney, Plath, Bishop, Wuthering Heights, Romeo and Juliet, Strictly Ballroom (didn't study this for the LC but did it in 4th year)

    Hated: A Portrait Of The Artist As A Young Man, Yeats, Cal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭bringitdown


    Loved: Hamlet, Death of a Salesman, Animal Farm
    Hated Hated Hated: Emma


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭nollaig


    Would have loved to done Playboy in the leaving. Thats a great great play.

    Loved doing My Left Foot, for the film.

    Hated Death of a Salesman! Pure & Utter ****e, nothing else!

    Did Hamlet too. Enjoyed that but did **** in that question on the exam.

    Things Fall Apart was a decent enough novel though, enjoyed that a lot.

    The Field, for JC was good too.

    Anything but Death of a Salesman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Loved:
    A Portrait of the Artist as a young man - Great read
    Julius Ceaser - I think I liked this because Brother Byrne, aka Chad :) , (my teacher) explained it all so well.

    Hated
    Hamlet - My teacher didn't put in much of an effort and let us struggle through it :(
    Playboy of the Western World - Interesting story but just couldn't warm to it

    Why was there no Oscar Wilde? Was it because young minds might be corrupted by a gay author? His stuff is hilarious and very well written.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    r3nu4l wrote:
    Why was there no Oscar Wilde? Was it because young minds might be corrupted by a gay author?

    Yes that's exactly why he's not put on the course and Shakespeare and Elizabeth Bishop were put on the course. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Yes but Oscar Wilde was a gay Irishman :eek: so I could see the Church saying "Down with this sort of thing!", "Careful now". :D

    So why do you think he's not on the course then?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 388 ✭✭da_deadman


    I really enjoyed 'Macbeth', 'The Merchant of Venice', 'Machine Gunners', 'To Kill a Mockingbird' and 'Philadelphia Here I Come'.

    Didn't really like anyof the poetry, probably because I just couldn't get my head around it at all, but I have since read and enjoyed a lot of Yeats poems.

    Also didn't like 'Hard Times', and this wasn't helped by my teacher doing accents for the characters when she was reading excerpts. It was quite annoying.

    I also think Oscar Wilde could be put on the syllabus, it's very enjoyable (and good) stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    r3nu4l wrote:
    Yes but Oscar Wilde was a gay Irishman :eek: so I could see the Church saying "Down with this sort of thing!", "Careful now". :D

    The church don't set the papers though, this isn't 1956. I don't know why he's on the course, you'd have to contact the department.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭MrJones


    liked othello, merchant of venice, juno and the peacock. silas marner was ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭cinnamon


    nollaig wrote:

    Hated Death of a Salesman! Pure & Utter ****e, nothing else!

    Death of a Salesman is a work of genius.
    I don't think you 'got' what the play was about. I absolutely love it - the symbolism, the characterisation, the attack on capitalism.
    I think you just need to peel back the layers and don't take it at face value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    cinnamon wrote:
    Death of a Salesman is a work of genius.
    I don't think you 'got' what the play was about. I absolutely love it - the symbolism, the characterisation, the attack on capitalism.
    I think you just need to peel back the layers and don't take it at face value

    Don't assume that because someone doesn't like a piece of art that they don't understand it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭cinnamon


    John2 wrote:
    Don't assume that because someone doesn't like a piece of art that they don't understand it.


    I am assuming by calling a book (in this case a play) "utter sh!te" means they didnt give it much time. It's fine to dislike a piece of art, but you can't write "utter sh!te" on an exam paper! I need more of an argument than that! :)

    I was merely trying to enlighten the reader to the play's virtue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    How about 'total and utter sh!te'? :D

    NAh, only kidding, liked Death of a Salesman myself but didn't do it in school so didn't mention it previously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭Faerie


    Well it was just last week so it shouldn't be too hard to remember!
    Loved: Lear, Plath, Eliot, Pride and Prejudice, Goodnight Mr Tom.
    Liked: The Field & Sive, Longley
    Hated: Yeats, Juno and the paycock, Big Maggie, The Country Girls, Of Mice and Men

    I think there's way too much emphasis on having to do IRISH writers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭NADA


    John2 wrote:
    Yes that's exactly why he's not put on the course and Shakespeare and Elizabeth Bishop were put on the course. :rolleyes:

    Liked:
    • Juno and the Paycock
    • Of Mice and Men
    • The Field

    Detested:
    • King Lear
    • How Many Miles to Babylon
    • Plath
    • Bishop
    • Longley
    • Yeats
    • Donne

    You know I check the Leaving Cert Sylabus on and off and decide not to buy anything listed on it ever. They really took the joy out of reading in my school days. Not out of school long though. Actually not finished the LEaving until monday. That's in 3 days. lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    Loved
    Hamlet
    Dickenson (although my teacher didn't really do her poetry)
    Goodnight mr Tom

    Hated
    Words cannot describe how much I hated Emma.
    I burned that book after I had finished school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Loved

    Hamlet(Shakespeare in general)
    Old Man and the Sea
    Animal Farm
    Lord of The Flies
    Playboy


    Hated

    Lord Jim


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭odhran


    I loved Hamlet, The Merchant Of Venice, and the poetry of Eliot and Plath. I hated pretty much everything else: The Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn, Amongst Women, Juno And The Paycock, Yeats, Boland, Wordsworth and (especially) Kavanagh. The A1 at the end of it all did make it all seem more bearable though ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭theCzar


    is_that_so wrote:
    Loved

    Hamlet(Shakespeare in general)
    Old Man and the Sea
    Animal Farm
    Lord of The Flies
    Playboy


    Hated

    Lord Jim

    Jesus! what a ****ing great set of books for course work! And that's presuming playboy was of the western world variety :eek:

    I liked Great Expectations, Lord of the Flies and Death of a Salesman, hated King Lear which I thought was a pile of crap and has left me eternally put off shakespeare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭MrJones


    old man and the sea...was it made into a film,,the old man who catches the whale but the effort ends up killing him??
    is_that_so wrote:
    Loved

    Hamlet(Shakespeare in general)
    Old Man and the Sea
    Animal Farm
    Lord of The Flies
    Playboy


    Hated

    Lord Jim


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭MrJones


    great expectations is a great book. i read it myself in my spare time.
    theCzar wrote:
    Jesus! what a ****ing great set of books for course work! And that's presuming playboy was of the western world variety :eek:

    I liked Great Expectations, Lord of the Flies and Death of a Salesman, hated King Lear which I thought was a pile of crap and has left me eternally put off shakespeare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭theCzar


    MrJones wrote:
    old man and the sea...was it made into a film,,the old man who catches the whale but the effort ends up killing him??

    wanna lash spoiler tags around that spoiler?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭Pet


    <3
    I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings
    Cat's Eye
    Macbeth
    Sylvia Plath (pfffh! to all you haters!)
    Emily Dickinson
    On the Waterfront
    Derek Mahon

    </3
    Amongst Women (moany, depressing, boring 1960s Catholic Ireland ****e)
    Seamus Heaney (yawn)
    PATRICK KAVANAGH (whingy, annoying, uninspired drivel from a dirty undersexed old pervert)


    Oh, and speaking in more abstract terms, the single biggest irritation of mine was the tendency of some of my classmates to "learn essays" and notes off by heart, instead of actually engaging with the texts. I mean - why bother? They were just making a complete chore out of something which should have been (and was, for me) enjoyable.

    I did better than them all anyway, so it all worked out well in the end. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭nando


    Loved
    Romeo&Juliet, Hamlet, To Kill a Mockingbird, Goodnight Mr. Tom, Philadelphia Here I Come, How Many Miles to Babylon?, Emma, The Remains of the Day, Dances With Wolves, Dickinson, Boland, Shakespeare's sonnets.

    Hated
    The Grass is Singing, Elizabeth Bishop, Keats


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Dagnir Glaurung


    Loved:
    A Doll's House
    Great Expectations
    Pride and Prejudice
    To Kill A Mockingbird
    King Lear
    T.S. Eliot
    G.M. Hopkins

    Hated:
    I can't remember really disliking anything. Maybe Longley. He bored me a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Tobias Greeshman


    Loved:
    Hamlet
    Emma
    Lord of the flies
    The great gatsby
    Yeats
    Kavanagh
    Shelley
    Keats
    T.S. Eliot

    Hated:
    John Donne
    George Herbert


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