Ubuntu 6.06 LTS released

Cormic

The latest version of Ubuntu has just been released. The version codenamed "Dapper Drake" is available free to download or free on CD.

I am currently doing the update to my version 5.10 at the moment. I am quite excited about this release. I found 5.10 to be excellent on both my laptop and desktop.

I will post anything of interest that I find. I hope I won't encounter any issues

Khannie

I'll probably upgrade myself this weekend. Just wanted to see how many people had issues with the dist-upgrade first. Syxpak said his one went fine. I notice they have the latest nvidia drivers in the Dapper apt repository. Niceness.

oscarBravo

Upgraded to beta a few weeks ago. Just one gotcha: make sure your kernel upgrades. Mine didn't, and I had problems booting. I downloaded a beta live CD, used it to boot my install, got a new kernel and fanny's yer aunt.

Balfa

Ugh. It totally sucks. I grabbed the standard i686 desktop CD off their website. At first I thought it was pretty nifty that it booted into a full fledged OS (live CD) from which you do the installation (there's an "install" icon on the live cd desktop).

But the installer didn't tell me the whole difference between hardware clock and system clock like breezy did, and the whole timezone and clock configuration was a little confusing in general, because the time on the gnome panel was different to that in the install dialogue And on top of that, I went to change the time in the dialogue and clicked OK and it crashed. The unexpected error dialogue asked me to send the details to the developers, so I agreed to, but then it wandered off asking me which application broke, and it only had a paltry few in the list, none of which were anything install or time related. So I gave up and started again at the install icon...

This time I didn't try to change the time, but when I came to partition manager, I did my usual thing (same thing I did going from hoary to breezy) of deleting the ext3 and swap (hda3 and hda4), leaving the stupid dell partition and my original windows partition and asking it to just use all the free space in whatever way it felt best.... except this time there's no option to do that. I had to manually create a new ext3 and swap. It's not a show stopper, but it's a huge step backwards for a "linux for humans".

Then, to top everything off, the partition manager crashed as well, asking me to go to the dev website and submit a crash report. But, unlike my hoary live cd, this one failed to find my wireless network, so I couldn't get to their website

I started again and this time it's working and almost finished copying the system files to the hard disk. I never had any problems like this with hoary or breezy. All in all, a pretty wretched experience. I hope they come out with a 6.07 pretty soon. For a suposedly super-stable long term support version, this is totally botched.

Balfa

AND it didn't prompt me to set up any networking stuff so I had to manually go in and enter my ssid and wep, etc.

AND it goes all funky colours when I shut down.

Again, not the end of the world, but a big disappointment.

Khannie

Jaysus....that's a pretty horrific experience alright.

steveland?

Only bothered re-installing on my laptop (had Hoary on my PC and then upgraded to Breezy but barely ever use it) when I looked up the chipsets of the laptops sound card, network card, pcmcia slot etc and saw they were all natively supported by Linux.

Installed Breezy and upgraded straight away to Dapper (couldn't be bothered downloading a new iso) and it all went smoothly except for the new wireless driver... so I'm just going to stick with Breezy for the moment... if it ain't broke don't fix it...

Cormic

I have not had a chance to take a good luck at the new install as it is one of my machines in work. I will be able to take a good look at it in the morning and I will post how I find it.

mneylon

I've been running it since early beta without any serious issues. Nice to see the graphics develop as the release date drew closer

Khannie

I still haven't had the inclincation / balls. I want to back up my current setup first....but that's going to be effort....and I'm lazy....and everything works atm....so I'll probably leave it 'til this weekend.....at the earliest.

zilog_jones

I upgraded the apt way (changed sources.list) from breezy. Took about 3 hours in total (was only getting about 80-100KB/s at work), and *most* things seemed to go ok.

One weird issue was that it decided to change my NIC from eth0 to eth1 (even though I have no other NIC and never had), which of course killed my net connection totally until I realised this. I also had to re-configure VMware Server, which also meant I had to get the latest kernel headers and the latest GCC (kinda weird that it didn't update them O_o). But everything else went ok... I think....

Some nice new features:

- OpenGL works on crappy Intel on-board graphics now (I'm using an i845G I think)
- Adept finds apt updates automatically in KDE
- Text seems more legible in general in KDE
- Probably something else I forgot that works better

...hmm, it seems OpenOffice has disappeared...

philologos

its tough to get around wireless networks with it unfortunately for some first time users but it's manageable with a bit of help on the ubuntuforums.org, i've ran it since the flight test versions, Linux takes a while to get it exactly as you want but when you have it your way it works perfectly

Cormic

Ok. First day of using the new version and I found it fine. I like the new Human theme. The only problem I have found so far is that Synergy (great app for using an single keyboard and mouse with two systems) has stopped syncing screensavers. I am sure I will figure it out when a get a few free moments.

Khannie

I did my dist-upgrade over the weekend. I did run into a few problems.

switched to console only and killed the x server to minimise the number of running X apps. Changed my sources.list file to the recommended one...ran apt-get update, then dist-upgrade.

Came back in the morning and it had done the downloading. Asked me about a bunch of config files (as I had made changes to the default...mostly through Automatix). I just took the new config files. Then it crashed on pcmcia upgrading. I rebooted, no joy on the recovery grub target . Went to an old 386 kernel (default is k7-smp for me) and it continued from there. I had to run a dkpg command (that I can't remember) and the installation continued.

Then it finished. I rebooted. No X. Not impressed tbh. X server complained of the opengl module not being available so I copped that it was a driver issue. I did and apt-get install nvidia-glx (luckily knew this package name) which conflicted with nvidia-settings (obviously the problem). startx then brought me in.

Overall, not a noob-friendly upgrade by any stretch. Pretty disappointed with that.

On the plus side though, the new gnome feels very very polished. Lovely artwork.

zilog_jones

Yeah, I hear 6.06 doesn't like the nvidia-settings package at all, but it doesn't need it.

I did a fresh install and only had one problem - after installing the nvidia drivers, if I tried the vga=791 boot option in grub none of the console displays would work - I'd either get a blank screen or some corrupted junk. So I've had to put up with ultra-chunky 40-line text for the time being.

Besides that everything was fine. There's power management stuff now on the desktops, so you can put the PC into standby or hibernate - that feature didn't seem to install onto my upgraded system (running kubuntu). And scarily, my new Netgear wireless NIC worked straight away!

wayne040576

There's been a lot of talk on distrowatch.com recently about how it was a disappointing release. I installed in on my laptop last week and was annoyed to find that they still haven't got wpa support out of the box from the interface tools. You have to download networkmanager for gnome (some job if you have no connection) to do it. I did that and got it up on the network but when I switched over to kde it stopped working again because networkmanager is a gnome applet.

TomTom

I previously had issues with ubuntu and my PC but this install was flawless. No issues in install or running so far and it's picked up every and is working great.

Khannie

Things get worse. When I connect up my PSP now (which should just appear as a memory stick to the computer), it launches "rhythmbox", which falls all over the place trying to make the PSP into an MP3 player. I close it, and it proceeds to eat 100% of a cpu (doing nothing). I try to remove it with synaptic and it tells me that I'll have to remove "ubuntu-desktop" if I wish to do so.

Benefits of upgrade: 0
Downsides of upgrade: 3

philologos

I might change from Ubuntu to Debian as they have made such a bollocks of the wireless network...

zilog_jones

I doubt Debian will be much better regarding wireless networking - Debian's primary a server OS, so desktop app's and WLAN stuff probably don't have much of a priority, especially since Ubuntu is much more well designed for desktop use.

philologos

hmm just going back on my comment about wireless connectivity, I tried it on my newer PC with a ralink 2500 wifi card and it connects straight out of the box. I shall install the AMD 64 edition on this computer so

Edit: Dapper AMD64 works fine, dual booting it with windows for the time being

kdouglas

had a few problems with the upgrade process myself, i used apt to update my work machine and all went grand, until i rebooted, the latest kernel hangs at boot, so i had to revert to an old one, Xorg 7 doesnt like my old xorg.conf and will only display on a single monitor whereas i had a dual screen setup under breezy/xorg 6. And my sound card disappeared for some bizarre reason.

All in all, a bad upgrade experience, i think i may just rebuild the machine with a fresh installation, but i havent had a chance to do it yet, too much work to do.

wayne040576

kdouglas wrote:

had a few problems with the upgrade process myself, i used apt to update my work machine and all went grand, until i rebooted, the latest kernel hangs at boot, so i had to revert to an old one, Xorg 7 doesnt like my old xorg.conf and will only display on a single monitor whereas i had a dual screen setup under breezy/xorg 6. And my sound card disappeared for some bizarre reason.

All in all, a bad upgrade experience, i think i may just rebuild the machine with a fresh installation, but i havent had a chance to do it yet, too much work to do.

I had originally tried to upgrade as well and it was a disaster. Network and wireless cards stop working and I kept getting spots appearing on the screen during shutdown. A few other problems as well so I just did the clean install. Even after that I was close to putting pclinuxOS on the laptop (due to Ubuntu's lack of wpa support). I already use pclinuxOS on the desktop and it's fine. One of the best distros I've used in ages (next to kanotix).

philologos

kdouglas wrote:

had a few problems with the upgrade process myself, i used apt to update my work machine and all went grand, until i rebooted, the latest kernel hangs at boot, so i had to revert to an old one, Xorg 7 doesnt like my old xorg.conf and will only display on a single monitor whereas i had a dual screen setup under breezy/xorg 6. And my sound card disappeared for some bizarre reason.

All in all, a bad upgrade experience, i think i may just rebuild the machine with a fresh installation, but i havent had a chance to do it yet, too much work to do.

it doesn't like onboard soundcards apparently according to people on the Ubuntu forum

Khannie

So I've ironed things out since the intial upgrade. Just thought I'd post here on the positive side of things. I haven't noticed a huge amount (I still use 5.10 in work), but some things that really struck me are:

Plugged in my camera (which requires drivers in windows) and presto. Recognised, asks me what I want to do with the photos on it. Very impressed.

A patch for rhythmbox came and fixed the psp issues. It still launches, but goes away when I tell it to.

Thunar: Nice windows explorer replacement (actually for xfce) but has a lovely multiple file rename option. Not available in synaptic in 5.10. Really like this. It's very lightweight and useful.

When data is being flushed to the PSP, it tells me so and asks me not to unplug the device until it's done (on 5.10 you have to watch the light on the psp, which you learn through trial and error).

Seems very stable.

Seems very polished overall.

Like the new colour scheme.

That's it.

It's a pity the upgrade didn't go smoother. The 6.06 livecd installer is great (used it to install for a friend).

Overall, my move to linux has been a very positive experience and the 6.06 polish has helped that. I'm never going back to windows.

Steveire

I'd recommend it to anyone with aptitude in windows and who wants LaTeX, or Inkscape, or any number of free photo or video editing software or more control, or anything else you can think of software wise.

Almost any problems I've had with it I've been able to solve with #kubuntu/#ubuntu on freenode, or the ubuntuforums. Not that I've had many problems, mainly just stupid newbie issues. Something I don't like though is that Skype doesn't work properly for me under Linux.

Apart from that, I don't play any computer games, so I've almost no need for my windows partition. I'm still quite curious about Gentoo though. There's a lot of fuss about it...

Khannie

Steveire wrote:

I'm still quite curious about Gentoo though. There's a lot of fuss about it...

There is alright. Those who use it swear by it. I had the gentoo installer disc and was going to install it because I was being lazy (too lazy to download the ubuntu installer) so I kick off the installation and get bored after about 10 minutes of clicking and quit. You need to be determined if you want to use gentoo.

oscarBravo

Steveire wrote:

I'm still quite curious about Gentoo though. There's a lot of fuss about it...

I used to be quite the fan, but I've come across some nasty flaws in it. I used it for a simple router platform with a bunch of vtun connections, and it occasionally arbitrarily threw in an unwanted /8 route that screwed up the routing for the whole box. I'm running CentOS in its place, and it's much better behaved.

Explosive_Cornflake

Silly question, but I've no idea how to get Irish Keyboard Layout under Kubuntu. Anyone?

mneylon

Have you installed the language?

JIZZLORD

every single time i tryed to install ubuntu for the last year it wouldnt accecp my graphics card (radeon x200 128mb), i'm now on fedora core which works, but i cant wait to go through the agony that is a linux install to see if ubuntu works!