Micra buyer's guide?

blastman

I'm looking at buying a 98-00 Micra (year depends on price, condition, etc.) and was just wondering if there are any particular issues to be aware of when checking them out? I know they're pretty reliable, and I have a good idea of general things to look for, but if anyone has any advice/experience to pass on, I'd be grateful.

Kimbot

My advice is not to buy a micra!! They are a pain mate!! You would be better getting a Polo, Seat Ibiza!! Far more reliable!!

bspoke

eh wouldnt be too sure jonny. Brother in law srated off in an ibiza, sister in law in polo and my brother has a micra. Guess which one hasnt broken down

As much as i hate them (and beleive me I despise them with a vengance) the micras are very reliable

blastman

Exactly, bspoke. After recent Fiat experiences, reliability is the main feature being sought.

unkel

Very reliable and nippy enough for a car in it's class. Cheap and cheerful motoring. No major known issues provided you service it regularly. I could be wrong but iirc, the European Micra only got power steering sometime into '98. Japanese cars had it earlier. Might be something to look out for. I'd try and get a non-import. Easier to sell on later

Hagar

Check out the driver side visor to make sure there is enough clearence
for this season's Burberry baseball cap.;)

blastman

Not worried about re-sale to be honest, unkel. A fresh Japanese import would be favourite at the moment, as power steering is pretty essential.

If only Honda had been making the Jazz a little longer, there'd be no need to buy a Micra!

blastman

Hagar wrote:

Check out the driver side visor to make sure there is enough clearence for this season's Burberry baseball cap.;)

I'll mention that to the ma, Hagar, thanks!

Kimbot

Well my Bro has a micra and its one of the worst things on the road!! My sister had an Ibiza for 2 years and not one problem!!

Audioslaven

Micra - I must admit a great car, gf has one for 7 years now, bought it from new and never gave an hassle. My friend had a polo and it never stoped giving hassle.

Funxy

Micra is the one car on the road i despise, whenever i see one i just can't help but cry for the poor person who actually went out and bought it, just how could you :eek:

Orlee

I've been thinking about buying my first car a while now and vowes that I would never EVER EVER get a micra but they are slowly growing on me! My first choice was a polo but thanks to the good people here at boards and some friends I've have been advised that they are not all they're cracked up to be! My second, a Punto but for fear of head gasketry Im steering clear. The only fault I can find with the Micra so far, is that some of the interiors are so colourful that they can give you headache!

Anyway, my point is that Micras seem to be getting a good general overview!

DubNside

Fiat Punto's are a disaster! Like Rovers there are 2many problems...

Im having Insurance problems at the mo so may have to get a 1l, and id choose a Micra, theres 1000's of them on the road, a lot are 14years old, still going strong and dont look that dated.

Mailman

Go for the post '00 model if you can.
It has a different shape bumper
More refined, better gearbox and better suspension and more powerful engine
Don't buy CVT version.

ianobrien

Problems with a Micra.
1. Check the rear brake cylinders. They dont last that well
2. The clutch is small and doesn't take abuse too well
3. The timing chain rattles on start up
4. Check underneath for speed bump scrapes
5. Check the front inner arches for scrapes from oversize wheels. Big alloys may have been fitted at some time, and big wheels rub at full lock.

We have 2 micras at home. One, a 96 model, we drove for 150,000 miles, and all that went was rear brake cylinders and the clutch went at 120,000 miles. The shocks were changed at 100,000. Its still going. All you have to do is change the oil every 6000 miles. Our 96 model is rather basic (no power steering, cigrette lighter, etc) but the 96 one is quicker than our 00 model as the 00 model doesn't have a rear anti roll bar!

We replaced the 96 model with a 00 model micra, but kept the 96 one, as we want to get 200,000 miles out of it!

Micras will take fierce punishment, and they will do 95mph. I know their top speed, as I did it on a forest track on road tyres! Handling is all right, but can be skittish at the back on the limit over bumps, etc.

ianobrien

Funxy wrote:

Micra is the one car on the road i despise, whenever i see one i just can't help but cry for the poor person who actually went out and bought it, just how could you :eek:

I bought one, to replace an older one! By the way, when I'm driving, I cant see how ugly it is on the outside, so i dont care. It starts every morning, so it's perfect.

natnif

I've driven a few of them over the years, my girlfriend has a 93 one and it is bloody nippy for a 1 litre!I got 101mph from a '99 model I was driving for a while!I tell ya she was shaking at that!
For a starting off car, you won't get better I don't think. You buy them for nothin andf they run forever...what more do you want?!!!

DubNside

Any 1 litre will do 100mph. given the right road, coming down from the toll bridge on the M50 towards the Blanch exit is great, i.e downhill with a wind behind you.

Any car really so long as its Japanese will stand up to the test of time! Micras are no exception.

colm_mcm

A micra isn't exactly cool, but anyone saying they're not one of the most reliable cars you can buy doesn't know a whole pile about cars.

Our man in Havana

colm_mcm wrote:

A micra isn't exactly cool, but anyone saying they're not one of the most reliable cars you can buy doesn't know a whole pile about cars.

Indeed, I has a 91 micra and its one of the best cars I have ever owned. Reliable cheap to run and very nippy. I don't care if people say they are uncool or a little old ladies car. I am 6ft 4 and I love my micra.

cat in hat

with a micra they clock the clock feck everyboodys opionon just buy it

damo605

I'd vouch for what ianobrien said:
1. Check the rear brake cylinders. They dont last that well
2. The clutch is small and doesn't take abuse too well

Other than that you'd be hard pushed to find a more reliable car.

I drove one for a few years (a long time ago) and I did think that the worst part of it was the seats - had back ache after any journey over 15/20 minutes.
As for the *1.0 litre Nissan Micra speed record* I got 104mph out of a '95 and before anyone asks, yes, it was down a steep hill :eek:

colm_mcm

A Yaris would be more reliable than the Micra, but only slightly. than said the Yaris is more comfy, better looking, but in shorter supply and more expensive

unkel

colm_mcm wrote:

A Yaris would be more reliable than the Micra, but only slightly. than said the Yaris is more comfy, better looking, but in shorter supply and more expensive

Agree with all of that, especially that it is madly more expensive. In the current Irish market, it makes a lot of sense to buy new if you really want a Toyota - a lot of people over here seem to want just that

P.S. for any of you that do want to buy a new Toyota, pm colm_mcm - he might give you another €50 off

TempestSabre

We've a micra a 1L 99 for 7 yrs, was my sisters and we bought it off her at 18k. Never really liked them but ended up with it. But I've no real complaints about it. Only problem with it was the rear cylinders leaked about two years ago and the seals needed doing. I suspect the throttle body needs attention now which is another common issue them. Other than just regular services pads etc its needed nothing else, it has about 50k on the clock. We've done a lot of diving in it, I used to commute over the Wicklow mountains in at one point and once you get used to the handling being very light you learn to read the chassis better and you can fairly hussle along. I don't think its great above 65mph though as its light and the wind seems to catch it. Ours is used mainly for heavy city driving and it nice and light for that. I prefer driving it over a bigger car in traffic. The main drawback we find is the boot is tiny on the 2dr and its even smaller on the 4dr.

The Yaris is probably a better car but its a lot more expensive and I suspect Toyota services, parts would be more expensive. I thing the older Yaris is even more ugly than the micra though. The newest model Micra is a lot bigger inside and feels a lot firmer on the road. The earliest ones (of the new model) seem to have dropped a lot in price. If I was buying another similar car I'd probably look towards a diesel one. As I don't think the fuel economy is amazing for a 1L car. But maybe thats my heavy right foot.

Of course with 1L your insurance and tax will be the cheapest you can get. I think many similar cars are 1.1 and 1.2's and it just up the running cost a bit.

TempestSabre

unkel wrote:

Agree with all of that, especially that it is madly more expensive. In the current Irish market, it makes a lot of sense to buy new if you really want a Toyota - a lot of people over here seem to want just that ...

I think that the banks easy loans on new cars driving that up. Try getting a loan on a 4yrs+ car and the banks are a lot less interested. Look at all the interest they make on a 6yr loan.

blastman

UPDATE: Well, I took the ma out on Saturday morning and she's picked out a freshly imported 99 Micra (think it's the newer shape of the previous model as it has the chrome bits around the grill. Looked very clean apart from a couple of bad touch-ups to the paint work, 5-door model, all electric windows, central locking, power steering, air con and only 60K km on the clock. That's a lot of car for a little over four grand!

TempestSabre

Where are you looking at imports? Nice spec.

blastman

Guy near where I live imports Jap motors. I didn't even know the place was there until I saw the ad in the Trader! Mostly sporty stuff (as no-one wants regular cars as Jap imports any more), but he keeps a few Micras in stock as well. The Micras were mostly automatics, but the ma went for a manual. Like I said, it seems like a lot of car for the money, so fingers crossed it's as good as it looks.

zilog_jones

Check that odometer closely. My friend got a '98 March (new import) and it was blatantly clocked - the numbers weren't straight at all! Think it was from some place in Wicklow.

Ratchet

jonny24ie wrote:

My advice is not to buy a micra!! They are a pain mate!! You would be better getting a Polo, Seat Ibiza!! Far more reliable!!

micra is solid car and would recommend it

DOHC engine with timing chain and good economy. Parts are way cheaper when comparing to Seat or VW

mass flow sensor goes at around 70K but could be reconditioned

in longer run
rear brakes can leak at 50k
mass flow sensor goes at around 70K but could be reconditioned
gearbox bearings could rattle at 100k
timing chain can get noisy

cantdecide

if you think a micra is a car you would consider, ask yourself what is motivating you to think so. you don't need a psychology degree to realise a micra is for a person with very little ambition. for the price of a 00 micra you could have a real car.
it is a fundamentally bad idea to own such an unsafe, uncomfortable and impracticle car. doing so just advertises to the world that you like to THINK you're saving money while at the same time being blissfully ignorant of the fact that you're probably not.
get a golf sized car as a MINIMUM

colm_mcm

what planet are you on?

cantdecide

colm_mcm wrote:

what planet are you on?

earth mate.

colm_mcm

I can't see how getting a Golf instead of a Micra is going to save you money.

cantdecide

colm_mcm wrote:

I can't see how getting a Golf instead of a Micra is going to save you money.

stop tryng to save money at the expense of your quality of life. if you are going to drive, don't risk your life because you MAY save a little money. you may as well drive in style.

let me make my point crystal clear.
micra €x

same purchase price primera €x+20% max

which is a better deal? if you're that hard up- get the bus- even cheaper.
i'm not talking about cost i'm talking about VALUE

TempestSabre

Let this be a lesson to you all why breathing petrol fumes is bad...

cantdecide

lets all buy the smallest cheapest crappest cars we can possibly dream of (maybe '94 cinquecentos) and this time next year...................

live now mate, you can't take it with you- the country's rich, you may as well go First Class

colm_mcm

Don't get me wrong, I drive a big car, but I can't see where you're coming from at all. some people like driving cars, and some people don't think that the higher running costs associated with big cars are worth it, I think you should respect that.

TempestSabre

cantdecide wrote:

lets all buy the smallest cheapest crappest cars we can possibly dream of (maybe '94 cinquecentos) and this time next year...................

live now mate, you can't take it with you- the country's rich, you may as well go First Class

First class being a 1500 quid 325?

cantdecide

pristine, powerful, exciting, and your favourite CHEAP
i'm the one who's laughing.

colm_mcm

you must be very proud.

cantdecide

i am


what peeves me is when people roll out their latest ball of banality and rave about ......the economy of it. goat boy calls it like he sees it- crap car mate:eek:

TempestSabre

cantdecide wrote:

pristine, powerful, exciting, and your favourite CHEAP
i'm the one who's laughing.

Its cheap to buy, not cheap to run. If money wasn't an issue for you wouldn't be buying it. Personally I would find it a pain with that first gear shunt in traffic. My mates '95 325i was nice on an open road, but in the city it was just annoying. Luckily he works odd hours and didn't do city driving so it wasn't a problem for him. He hated driving it in the traffic and/or city aswell. He had a decent independent to service it aswell, but even that wasn't cheap.

cantdecide

TempestSabre wrote:

Its cheap to buy, not cheap to run. If money wasn't an issue for you wouldn't be buying it. Personally I would find it a pain with that first gear shunt in traffic. My mates '95 325i was nice on an open road, but in the city it was just annoying. Luckily he works odd hours and didn't do city driving so it wasn't a problem for him. He hated driving it in the traffic and/or city aswell. He had a decent independent to service it aswell, but even that wasn't cheap.

but did he buy a micra????????????????????????????????

would he?????????????????????????????????????????

TempestSabre

cantdecide wrote:

i am - what peeves me is when people roll out their latest ball of banality and rave about ......the economy of it. goat boy calls it like he sees it- crap car mate:eek:

Buy a M3 then if its not about the money.

TempestSabre

cantdecide wrote:

but did he buy a micra????????????????????????????????

would he?????????????????????????????????????????

He has a Fiat Panda and a Porsche.

cantdecide

It Is About The Money. You Buy A Crap Car-with Your Little Money- You End With A.......................crap Car And No Money. Buy A Good One Instead Of A Bad One-they Cost The Same

colm_mcm

If someone buys a car eg. 00 Nissan micra for €4,000. it will be very unlikely to break down. it will have 2 airbags, ABS, electric windows, a CD player and remote locking, It will cost €151 a year to tax it, and in 2 years time, it will have lost very little money. Parts are cheap, servicing and tyres are cheap, fuel costs are low, and insurance is low.

How can you argue with that?

TempestSabre

cantdecide wrote:

It Is About The Money. You Buy A Crap Car-with Your Little Money- You End With A.......................crap Car And No Money. Buy A Good One Instead Of A Bad One-they Cost The Same

Your abacus is broken dude. Maybe a few other things aswell.

Ratchet

cantdecide wrote:

if you think a micra is a car you would consider, ask yourself what is motivating you to think so. you don't need a psychology degree to realise a micra is for a person with very little ambition.

keep taking pink tablets and read original post again