Take 14 freaks, stick them in a house...

MrJoeSoap

... and see what happens.

Anyone watching it? Two nice lookin girls (especially the Welsh one, Imogen), and an assortion of complete weirdos and loose cannons.

Should be interesting!

fletch

Yeh what a load of FREAKS!.... Get the paki poof out, he was doin my head in and Peter I think his name is, the rocker guy...total twat.
George and Ceezer are fit as f#@k though!

judybaby

Is it true that Pete has Tourettes Syndrome???

sweetie

fletch wrote:

Yeh what a load of FREAKS!.... Get the paki poof out, he was doin my head in and Peter I think his name is, the rocker guy...total twat.
George and Ceezer are fit as f#@k though!

Just saw a clip of him on BB's big mouth pulling everybody up to dance and singing 'celebrate.' Reminded me of Graham Norton's character in Fr. Ted. Posh George refused to get down with them though.

MrJoeSoap

judybaby wrote:

Is it true that Pete has Tourettes Syndrome???

Think he's just a nutter. He does act like he has it though, and he certainly shouts 'w*nk' quite a bit.

Oral Slang

Does anyone else think that Bonnie looks & sounds exactly like Lesley from last year?

Oral Slang

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Think he's just a nutter. He does act like he has it though, and he certainly shouts 'w*nk' quite a bit.

According to BB's Big Mouth, he does have tourettes!

judybaby

Oral Slang wrote:

Does anyone else think that Bonnie looks & sounds exactly like Lesley from last year?

yes yes yes......awful accent!

What did you lot think of Davinia tonight? I thought she was crap and quite nervy at the beginning!

yeah yer man seems to have turrets alright...
I'm watching the live (well half hour delayed) feed and he's swearing away...

Funniest comment I've read so far was on digital spy "oh my God its brokeback mountain for the next 3 months"

Theres a lass in there that looks like a slimmed down kinga

billy the squid

There was an evict imgen thread on DS:BB this morning LOL before she even went into thehouse.

BuffyBot

Bonnie: Les-lah lite. Just 1 calorie. As a beginning, it could only go downhill from here, couldn't it.

Pete: The spawn of Murdoch from the A-Team, crossed with his namesake, Pete Doherty, with a little bit of Maxwell from last year thrown in, and seasoned liberally with Joe Pasquale. Was I the only hoping that the tumble down stairs would be so severe as to nessecitiate his immediate removal from the house?

George: Posh, hopefully not completely thick. In fact, I (almost) feel sorry for him. Could be nice, could be horrible - it'll probably go either way with him.

Shahbaz: To paraphrase Madonna: we've heard it all before, we've heard it all before, please don't give us Shazbot..I guess it was a bit much for us to expect some originality.

Lea: As tough as her fake nails, she's crumble into a big, insecure silicon mess before too long, despite her claims of not caring what people think. Lea, take a hint, if you don't care what people think of you..you wouldn't be going on Big Brother.

Imogen: Fairly inoffensive eye-candy. Remains to be seen if there is any depth to her character.

Mikey: A big head with very little rattling around in it. Strikes me as the type who has a lot to learn about life in the real world.

Dawn: This years gobby one. "I don't like people blah blah". I give her a day before she's comforting someone about something.

Glyn: Like throwing raw steak to a pack of vultures, this one.

Richard: Note to Richard: any self respecting gay man would know that stetsons went out 6 years ago. The Village People fetish..well we'll gloss right over that.

Grace: I'm not sure what she'll add, if anything. Seems a bit of a place filler really. Doubt she'll go far.

Lisa: Needs to kept away from the sugary treats. Possibly strapped down also.

Sezer: Doesn't half like himself, does he? Plus..body shavers and Big Brother never go well together. Remember Tim, anyone?

Nikki: "Special". Her own words.

billy the squid

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Think he's just a nutter. He does act like he has it though, and he certainly shouts 'w*nk' quite a bit.

actually yer man does indeed have it.

MrJoeSoap

Yeah, a few minutes of live feed and its pretty clear he has it. Will be interesting to see the day time coverage. More work for the censoring lads than usual.

JackM

I think the only originality BB came up with this year is not having an Irish misfit in the mixup! They really need to come up with something more than just changing the decor!! Hello by the way!

rsta

Oral Slang wrote:

Does anyone else think that Bonnie looks & sounds exactly like Lesley from last year?

No dont knock poor Bonnie, she looked lost when she went in first the little lamb.

that video they show before the housemate goes in the house is so edited.

I really hope BB dont edit the show to make her out to be like lesley...

Hope she turns out lovely, cos she is only young so she's bound to be a bit gobby, but i'm sure she's nice.

Dont stereotype her just cos of her accent.. or looks... for goodness sake.. :rolleyes:

MrJoeSoap

rsta wrote:

I'm sure she's nice.

Very quick to judge her!

rsta

haha

JBoyle4eva

Well, what a weird mix this year. We've two gays, two homphobes, 3 airheads, 2 fakes, a sexist, a couple of sex addicts, an unemployed, a touretts sufferer, a complete outsider and what have you got: Big Brother 2006

zippo22

billy the squid wrote:

actually yer man does indeed have it.

From previous years viewing/listening I thought Tourettes was a requirement for ALL the contestants.

billy the squid

Ooh ooh Screenie !!!

judybaby

That Nikki is making such a big deal about not having her eye make up remover! I want to pull her eyes out myself. Moany cow! Big deal...

I can see that this person is really going to irritate me for sure.

She was moaning about being BOOed on way in too.Fair enough but she won't get it in to her head that she wasn't the only one Booed.

Hobbes

I didn't think it was possible but C4 actually managed to a large number of people I'd love to punch in the face. The show has put me off kitkats for life.

Any bets someone dies on this season.

jobonar

Thats some bunch of ppl.... my god bottom of the barrel stuff really! Imogen is sex on legs tho! Shabaz will do my head in, that Nikki 1 is such an airhead and very annoying and as said already Lisa needs to kept away from sugar and possibly be sedated!

i'll give it a week before i decide to watch it or not.... (hmmm deja vu)

meldrew

What a bunch of freaks , definitely the most "normal" one there seems to be Imogen , probably Richard or Dawn for first nominations

SprostonGreen

Bonnie and Lea are favourites with Boylesports for 1st eviction. I've had a bet on Bonnie, she had a row with Lisa, who is part of the brotherhood.

Bonnie 3/1
Pete 50/1
George 16/1
Shahbaz 10/1
Lea 3/1
Imogen 20/1
Mikey 16/1
Dawn 15/2
Glyn 11/1
Richard 20/1
Grace 20/1
Lisa 20/1
Sezer 14/1
Nikki 8/1
Any Other 25/1

Dr. Dre

Christ almighty, this is the most annoying line-up yet.

*I just want my botled waaaater*
What a whiny b***h :mad:

Pocari Sweat

fletch wrote:

Yeh what a load of FREAKS!.... Get the paki poof out, he was doin my head in and Peter I think his name is, the rocker guy...total twat.
George and Ceezer are fit as f#@k though!

Get fletch racist scum out of boards.

Shahbaz is a annoying drama queen, but less of yer racism.

I'll put 100 euros on pete to win, no problem, with shallow and pointless and unlikeable waste of time Sezer in house. Who is george?

michaela

Pocari Sweat wrote:

Get fletch racist scum out of boards.

Shahbaz is a annoying drama queen, but less of yer racism.

I'll put 100 euros on pete to win, no problem, with shallow and pointless and unlikeable waste of time Sezer in house. Who is george?

ino that callin sum1 a "paki" and a "poof" is wrong, racist and homaphobic, but in the intro bit on thursday shabazz referred 2 him self as a "paki poof" so fletch was meerly quoting him

Pocari Sweat

michaela wrote:

ino that callin sum1 a "paki" and a "poof" is wrong, racist and homaphobic, but in the intro bit on thursday shabazz referred 2 him self as a "paki poof" so fletch was meerly quoting him

No. Had that understood that he referred to himself in them terms. But to refer to others in racist and unallowable language is against the rules of this forum and society. Does not make it right.

Huggles

Hobbes wrote:

I didn't think it was possible but C4 actually managed to a large number of people I'd love to punch in the face. The show has put me off kitkats for life.

Any bets someone dies on this season.

LMAO briliant post Hobbes! Hope its Nikki, dies from drinking tap water :rolleyes:

Pocari Sweat

TheGooner wrote:

LMAO briliant post Hobbes! Hope its Nikki, dies from drinking tap water :rolleyes:

Second that, but she is really nice delicate soft thing when not mental.

Huggles

Where was that idiot Mikey tonight didn't see him once...is he still in there?

murphaph

Pocari Sweat wrote:

No. Had that understood that he referred to himself in them terms. But to refer to others in racist and unallowable language is against the rules of this forum and society. Does not make it right.

Ah relax. The papers all use his own terminology and call him a paki poof too so what's the big deal with fletch doin it on boards??

I'd second what Hobbes has said. Shabaz is a total geebag and as fer that nikki wan. Jaysus, what a pest. Richard seems pretty decent but Pete is a god laugh to watch. Didn't like caesar (can't spell it properly) much at the start but he told shabaz what a tit he was being which was more than the rest of em would do so he's earned my respect.

elvis2002

Pocari Sweat wrote:

But to refer to others in racist and unallowable language is against the rules of this forum and society.

Ah for god sake, we might as well not post on this forum anymore. Relax!. You called mentioned that fletch was scum in your on post. I could take that as a highly insulting remark and say that you should be banned. The main point for you is, 'GET A LIFE'.

fletch

Pocari Sweat wrote:

Get fletch racist scum out of boards.

Shahbaz is a annoying drama queen, but less of yer racism.

I'll put 100 euros on pete to win, no problem, with shallow and pointless and unlikeable waste of time Sezer in house. Who is george?

Oh for Gods sake would you lighten up! I was merely referring to Shahbaz in the way in which he referred to himself in his application video. It was not meant to be a racist comment in the slightest. Personally I find the term paki puff quite amusing and I myself, am gay and have absolutely no problem with someone referring to me as a puff, it's merely a figure of speech

ateam

Pocari Sweat wrote:

Get fletch racist scum out of boards.

Shahbaz is a annoying drama queen, but less of yer racism.

I'll put 100 euros on pete to win, no problem, with shallow and pointless and unlikeable waste of time Sezer in house. Who is george?

I don't think there was any racist intention in what he said. Big Brother are identifying him as a "Pakki Puff". Retract your post.

Pocari Sweat

fletch wrote:

Oh for Gods sake would you lighten up! I was merely referring to Shahbaz in the way in which he referred to himself in his application video. It was not meant to be a racist comment in the slightest. Personally I find the term paki puff quite amusing and I myself, am gay and have absolutely no problem with someone referring to me as a puff, it's merely a figure of speech

Oooo kay.. keep yer knickers on ye big poof, lighten up, I was just being a bit anti-racist thats all, theres no law against it.

We can all refer to ourselves in derogatory terms and say it is okay to use these terms because we are referring to ourselves like this, like ... I am a thick paddy gob****e.

And I'm sure self-effacing Scottish people refer to themselves as haggis eating, caber tossing jock straps.

Sure whats the harm. But the forum on one hand say they don't allow racist terms and then don't bother when it happens, so I'm not sure...
ye big poof.

ateam

Pocari Sweat wrote:

Oooo kay.. keep yer knickers on ye big poof, lighten up, I was just being a bit anti-racist thats all, theres no law against it.

We can all refer to ourselves in derogatory terms and say it is okay to use these terms because we are referring to ourselves like this, like ... I am a thick paddy gob****e.

And I'm sure self-effacing Scottish people refer to themselves as haggis eating, caber tossing jock straps.

Sure whats the harm. But the forum on one hand say they don't allow racist terms and then don't bother when it happens, so I'm not sure...
ye big poof.

Your response is all over the place and contradictory.

Pocari Sweat

ateam wrote:

Your response is all over the place and contradictory.

Yer all fur coat and no knickers, where's yer reasoning, break it down.

ateam

Pocari Sweat wrote:

Yer all fur coat and no knickers, where's yer reasoning, break it down.

You have accused someone of being a racist and now you have consciously acted in what may be interpreted as a racist manner by slagging off the Irish and the Scottish (for some reason you picked out the Scottish).
Moreover, I would argue that on the one hand you are willing to say that he used an unacceptable term but suddenly through permission granted from someone who is not in any position to dish out permission, you now seem fit to use this unacceptable term yourself.

MrJoeSoap

Give it a rest lads, if someone refers to themself as a Paki Poof then there is no harm in referring to them as the same.

fletch

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Give it a rest lads, if someone refers to themself as a Paki Poof then there is no harm in referring to them as the same.

Yes back on topic please.....although that was kinda on topic lol

Pocari Sweat

ateam wrote:

You have accused someone of being a racist and now you have consciously acted in what may be interpreted as a racist manner by slagging off the Irish and the Scottish (for some reason you picked out the Scottish).
Moreover, I would argue that on the one hand you are willing to say that he used an unacceptable term but suddenly through permission granted from someone who is not in any position to dish out permission, you now seem fit to use this unacceptable term yourself.

Lets agree to differ.

I'll explain where I was coming from - looking at it chronologically:

I saw Shahbaz call himself a P*** Poof on his application video.
(By the way I put the three asterixes after the "P".)

I suppose there aren't major gripes in using racial terms in expressing self effacement in a humourous way.

Referring to someone using racial terms whether they used the same terms first, I am still undecided on.

If Fletch was commenting on what he said or quoting what he said and had a view on this, fair enough.

When I responded initially, who knows if I saw the Shahbaz application video and I was just commenting against racism.

I withdraw my remark calling Fletch a scumbag now he has explained his point, there doesn't seem to be any harm in the chap, no hard feelings.

As I am Scotts-Irish, and from what I was told about it being OK using self-effacing racial humour my comments below seem to be entirely within your mandates :

We can all refer to ourselves in derogatory terms and say it is okay to use these terms because we are referring to ourselves like this, like ... I am a thick paddy gob****e.

And I'm sure self-effacing Scottish people refer to themselves as haggis eating, caber tossing jock straps.

The term I was against using from the start was the commonly mis-used slang for a person from Pakistan and at no point have I used this term although this is what it appears I am accused of.

I am quick to come down hard on racism, and if there is a good argument to say why some comments may be OK or they were misinterpreted or there were no real bad intentions, then I am certainly prepared to listen.

Back to BB now.

Shahbaz is obviously a knob head.

MrJoeSoap

Pocari Sweat wrote:

P*** Poof

Why is it alright to say Poof but not Paki?

Pocari Sweat

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Why is it alright to say Poof but not Paki?

I personally don't like referring to someone using racial slang even if one or two individuals from a cultural background say it is OK, I still am not comfortable with it.

As for using the term poof, this has become so widely used in the mainstream by the gay community themselves, on daytime TV etc, that it is not too much of an issue. Sure Joe, there is always going to be a few upset by it, and if I thought they were then I wouldn't used the term, (hope your not uspet?).

Hobbes

I loved his comment "I am just going to show that gay muslims aren't all terrorists". Did he mean that some Muslim terrorists are gay?

iFight

Hobbes wrote:

I loved his comment "I am just going to show that gay muslims aren't all terrorists". Did he mean that some Muslim terrorists are gay?

When did he say that?

Pocari Sweat

Who said that?

fletch

Pocari Sweat wrote:

As for using the term poof, this has become so widely used in the mainstream by the gay community themselves, on daytime TV etc, that it is not too much of an issue. Sure Joe, there is always going to be a few upset by it, and if I thought they were then I wouldn't used the term, (hope your not uspet?).

One could also argue the exact same thing about the word paki! If you ask me it's merely an abbreviation of the term pakistani meaning "A person from Pakistan or of Pakistani descent". Personally I fail to see it's derogatory connotations. Total double standards on your part Pocari
Jees there's even a site entitled http://www.paki.com which deals with all things Pakistani!

Hobbes

iFight wrote:

When did he say that?

"I think the nation should see that there gay muslims out there that are not all terrorists".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfGzSb1l9sc
40 seconds in.

Pocari Sweat

fletch wrote:

One could also argue the exact same thing about the word paki! If you ask me it's merely an abbreviation of the term pakistani meaning "A person from Pakistan or of Pakistani descent". Personally I fail to see it's derogatory connotations. Total double standards on your part Pocari
Jees there's even a site entitled http://www.paki.com which deals with all things Pakistani!

Right Fletch I was going to let it lie, but you obviously want to debate the matter.

Just because other members of the Pakistani community choose to use the slang or abbreviation, I personally do not feel it is appropriate.

I reckon poof or poofter or poofter boy used in a humerous way is not as bad as the slang for Pakistani unless a gay person is objecting then I would not use the term and apologise.

People like to be referred to in the way they request and if they feel it is inappropriate then the offensive terms they feel are being used should stop being used.

By using the racist term for Pakistinis, I feel you are treading on thin ice for those you are ultimately going to offend.

Despite having a general amount of crap from right wing or uneducated types, gay people know if "poof" is used in a humerous and unthreatening manner then it is inoffessive.

This cannot be said for racial slang terms in my experience, it runs a bit deeper. I am not saying the terms are polariities, they are fairly close in arguments about equality and discrimination legislation, but I find racial slang a bit more cutting.

I am caucasion and heterosexual so I am not biased on one or other use of slang terminology. But because you mentioned you were gay I can see where you are coming from and I won't use the term "poof" again in debates here and probably level off its use and give its credence as being equally as offensive compared to racial slang terminology. A lesson learned.