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1/4 scale KA3

  • 18-05-2006 2:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭


    Hi there,

    So, after my 1/5.5 Grunau Baby, it's time for a new scale ship !
    This time, the Ka3, 2.5mtrs wing span.
    Let's glue some wood !

    As usual now for me, I've started with the "front box" made with 3mm plywood (from the local DIY store...)

    02052006102333_ka3couples.jpg

    02052006103124_ka3fuselage.jpg

    02052006103248_ka3fuselage1.jpg

    02052006103258_ka3fuselage2.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Then, it's time for hard wood strips to simulate the tubing construction of the real one.

    I've used 10x3mm strps, but if I have to do it again, i'd rather use 2x 3x5mm strips. Much more easier to bend ! :rolleyes:

    02052006103337_ka3fuselage3.jpg

    02052006103344_ka3fuselage4.jpg

    02052006103649_ka3fuselage6.jpg

    Nothing really difficult here. The hardest part of the building was for the rear part of the fuselage...Finally, no real difficulties, but you must be precise here !
    02052006103656_ka3fuselage7.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Then, it's time to build the wings !

    Really easy here ! Ribs are all the same (ok, ok, almost !), the wing is flat, rectangular... A real beginner wing here !

    02052006103923_ka3aile.jpg

    02052006103930_ka3aile1.jpg

    The first 4 ribs are in 3mm plywood. The wing spare come from the DIY shop and the key wing is in 8mm carbon rod.

    02052006103937_ka3aile2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Ok, so, we have a set of wings and a fuselage... time to put everything together for the first time :

    02052006104131_ka3structure2.jpg

    02052006104118_ka3structure.jpg

    Contemplation !

    Fred --> happy ! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    So, it's time to start the "webbing" on the fuselage. First, I was thinking to cover the entire fuselage with balsa, and simulate the tubing with the 10x3mm strips... Finally, Why not reproduce the real structure ?! Less hassle ! And very light and strong ! (Ok, the weight is not an issue here in Ireland ! :rolleyes: )

    08052006085736_lissesfuselage.jpg

    08052006085745_lissesfuselage0.jpg

    08052006085814_lissesfuselage1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Now, a bit of paint for the cockpit interior...

    Ok, Grey like the Irish Sky ! :p Camouflage !

    08052006085922_lissesfuselage2.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    A bit of work on the wings now.
    Put the TE made with 1.5mm liteply.

    Note the wing root. Scale now (design error here...Ooopss)

    09052006083611_ka3fuselageaileemp.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Now, the ailerons :

    Really easy.. nothing to be explained here... photos talk for themselves !

    ailerons_199.jpg

    aileronsmobile_697.jpg

    aileronsmobile1_181.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    And finally :
    structuremontagefuselage_936.jpg

    So, missing on the picture : the wings root and the sheeting.

    Now, it's time to start the V tail ! Yep, I keep the best part for the end !



    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Ooops, forgot to thanks Alan Perse for the 3 views !

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    She is coming on nicely. You make it sound so easy:rolleyes: :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Thanks Plug,

    But once again, nothing realy difficult here !

    The real difficult part will be the V tail, not for the design, but because I want it removable (I have to be able to bring the model with me in contests) and with an Auto Lock of the moving parts...

    But beside that, dead easy !

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭no leaf clover


    omg!!! that things is deadly, im hooked, now!! dying to c the end result!!! nice work!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Thanks No leaf Clover ! :)

    Ok, let's make the wings tips.
    One of the Ka3 Particularity is to have a hollow wing tip (mean that the wing sheeting is not going to the tips)
    So, the last 2 ribs are made with 3mm balsa and the wing tip, by using 1.5mm liteply.
    Here are the pictures before gluing :

    saumon_994.jpg

    saumon1_268.jpg

    saumon2_228.jpg


    So, this week end, the plan is to finnish the wings (sheeting) and to start the V Tail !

    Fred


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    Coming along nicely, Fred.
    Keep the pics flowing please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    Looking Good Fred !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Thanks guys,

    Hope everything is going smoothly this week End..

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    So, let's continue with the elevator :

    The elevator is made like a wing. The profil is a NACA 00008. No spars but 2 wing joiners made with carbon tubes.

    first, cut all the ribs (not a lot :) ) :

    kitprof_385.jpg

    And glue them on a "false" TE, made with 4x4mm balsa strip :

    montageprof_194.jpg

    Then, this is the critical phase of gluing the carbon tubes. Critical because you can input some wash-out during the process.... But slowly but surely, take your time and all will be fine...

    montageprof1_634.jpg

    Then, you can glue the TE to the ribs :

    montageprof2_463.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    So, the sheeting is the only thing left to do, not before gluing some blocks inside the elevator for the hinges :

    montageprof3_197.jpg

    And finally, gluing of the "real" LE and sanding :

    montageprof4_412.jpg

    Et voila !

    Then, the elevator (mobile one.. don't know the name for that in English.. :o ). The building is like an Aileron, so, no big deal here.. :

    montageprof5_896.jpg

    You've got the idea... Only thing left here is to put the TE, made with 1.5mm liteply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    But before that, firt quick setup in the sitting room to confirm that i'm building a Ka3 :

    assemblage_108.jpg

    assemblage1_211.jpg

    Yep, I'm sure now, that's a Ka3 ! :p:p

    So, tonight : cutting of the plywood for the TE and start to build the mounting for the elevator on the fuselage.

    Fred


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    That is turning out really nicely Fred


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Thanks Norman !;)

    Hopefully, will be ready to cover at the end of the week...

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    So, let continue with the V tail.

    So, I'm on target and made the liteply TE and parts for the V-Tail :

    bfprof_796.jpg

    bfprof1_504.jpg

    So, tonight, I go back to the fuselage and start the nose cone and the cockpit frame.

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    So, here we go again !
    This time, on the fuselage and the cockpit section.

    First it's time to glue the bottom canopy frame :

    fuselageavant_194.jpg

    Then, cut a balsa block to fit the nose. The only "difficult" part of the job here is to respect the sides of the fuselage on the balsa block during the sanding.

    Before :

    fuselageavant1_168.jpg

    After :

    fuselageavant2_168.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Then, as usual, put the wings on the fuselage... Can be proud of the result now ! ;)

    fuselageavant3_185.jpg

    And just for the pleasure, I've cut 2 tubes for the canopy frame to have an idea of the finished product.

    fuselageavant4_190.jpg

    Happy !
    So tonight, the plan is to finish the canopy frame, and this week end, the wings.

    See you on monday !

    Fred


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    noice work! i like the look alot for some reason ;) well i am off to get ready for exams, keep hte work coming :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Thanks Flunked !

    Slowly, but surely !

    Must be ready for the Retroplane... So next week, must be finished !
    Will not be easy !

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭BFassassin


    looks good fred keep up the good work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Hi There,

    This week end were the days to design the V tail mounting system. The trick here, is that I wanted to have the V tail removable in 2 pieces. The V tail is huge and if you really want to gain space, you need to have a 2 pieces tail.
    So, finally, after 3 prototypes and a bit of brain cells, I've found a very simple solution to my problem.
    4 pieces of wood, and 2 carbon tubes and that's it !

    assisestab_547.jpg

    assisestab1_410.jpg

    assisestab2_215.jpg

    Then, plug both elevator/rudder :

    assisestab3_165.jpg

    Fit perfectly !

    Happy ! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Ok, so, I'm happy with the results, and now, it's time to celebrate by doing the wing sheeting and others details ! :D

    planeur_792.jpg

    planeur2_107.jpg

    Happy ! Not a lot left to do now, and hopefully, I'll be able to start the covering this week.

    Fred


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Coming on lovely;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Well..

    A bit late on schedule, but finally, the Ka3 is ready to cover ! :)
    This week end was just a bit of work on the scale details on the cockpit :

    ka3interieur_203.jpg

    Almost finish by now.
    Then, it was time for a last look at the wooden structure before the covering start :

    ka3fini_119.jpg

    ka3fini2_208.jpg

    ka3fini3_811.jpg

    Hopefuuly, finished to cover during the week, and maiden is plan this week end, weather permitting !

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Hi there,

    Quick update on the KA3 with the covering :

    entoilage_520.jpg

    entoilage2_550.jpg

    And the painting of the fuselage, just to have an idea before starting the wings and elevator :

    peinture_125.jpg

    Nearly there !

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Hi There,

    Quick update on the Ka3
    Here is the Ka3 as it was yesterday evening ! :

    ka3finition_129.jpg

    and

    ka3finition2_515.jpg


    All servos fitted and so on... Ready to fly !
    Just the paint need to be finished (not a lot to do..).

    Hope to do a launch on sunday, or monday evening at last.

    I will complete the test flight in France before Retroplane.

    Fred


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    It's looking really nice Fred.
    I like the colour scheme.
    Is the R/C inside yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Thanks a mill Norman.
    Like the red too ! Really vintage colors on a glider.

    The glider is ready to fly. Just some paint touches to be done, but the priority is the first flight for the week end.
    But the paint should be finish tonight. Just the masking.. lots of time !
    6 hrs of masking for 15 mins of painting ! :o

    So, first launch this week end, weather permitting of course !

    Fred


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭syl77


    Me likes the colour scheme also..done well.
    Do the wings come apart....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    syl77 wrote:
    Me likes the colour scheme also..done well.
    Do the wings come apart....


    Yes, wings and V-Tail.
    Easier for transport ! :)

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Exact same colour sceme as my one. Great minds think alike;) :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    :D:D:D:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Job Done !

    The maiden flight has been made yesterday !
    Short flight (5mins), but what a flight !

    No trims to touch, very effective ailerons (despite the size). I'm ready for Retroplane in July now !
    Need to do another proper test flight (may be this evening, weather permitting) but I'm now confident that she will fly, and well !

    Fred - Happy ! :D


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    Congrats Fred. The successful first flight is always the most memorable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Congrats again ..
    Its great to see projects working out like that...
    Makes it all worthwhile in the end ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    vectra wrote:
    Congrats again ..
    Its great to see projects working out like that...
    Makes it all worthwhile in the end ;)
    Brings a tear to my eye:D
    .....lovely model though;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Thanks Guys ! :)

    The Ka3 looks fantastic in the air ! Looks waayyyyy bigger and remind me my Lo100 !
    And the V tail !
    God that was good !

    Next flight, in france now ! :D

    fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Hi There,

    Just back from France and the Retroplane meeting.

    And here is a best off of the in-flight pictures during Retroplane of the Ka3.

    ka3lance.jpg

    ka3lancepierre.jpg

    ka3lancepierre2.jpg

    ka3vol2.jpg

    ka3vol.jpg

    ka3vol3.jpg


    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    And guess who won the Retroplane trophy ?? :D:D:D

    fredtrophee_113.jpg

    :D


    Fred


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    nice ;-) me likes it


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    Hey - how about that!
    Well done Fred.
    :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭loopingfred


    Thanks Norman ! :D

    Fred


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Great news Fred.
    Congrats ;)


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