first report of crack /drugs being sold in dublin

gamer

I heard father mcverry ,being interviewd on newstalk 3 days ago, he says about,5 africans were arrested in dublin city centre,for selling crack cocaine,the most adddictive powerful,drug yet so far sold in ireland. I FEEL A SENSE OF DEJA VU about this , heroin started off being sold in the inner city in the 80,s now it has spread round the whole country,i think anyone arrrested for drug dealing ,nonnational should be deported in 3 weeks ,after being held in jail.Our government seem to ignore certain drug problems,as long as they are confined to working class inner city areas.I,M not a racist but i think certain problems /crimes are being ignored by the media because of policital correctness,ie there are many africans coming here PAYING irish women to marry them,in order to get residency, ie i know 3 irish women married to africans who were paid,to marry them, they do not live with them, they just get paid in order to let them stay in ireland,they have no romantic relationship with these men, its purely a financial transaction.The media can,t discuss these issues cos of policitical correctness ,ie god forbid you should point at any racial group for committing any crime.Thats not nice.I suppose if you live in dublin 4 ,you probably dont get offered heroin, just that nice middle class drug cocaine.

fits

God, crack is the most overhyped drug there is. The media love to sensationalise it. You do have to be an addictive personality to get addicted to this stuff. I dont think it will ever be a serious problem here. Its certainly not as nasty as crystal meth, in my opinion.

RoundyMooney

Funny you should say that... I have noticed many African men in clubs over the years "pulling" Irish women. Nothing wrong with that of course, I think diversity is a good thing. I wonder why, though, they are generally the heaviest, plainest girls in sight?

Cynical, moi?

On the topic of drugs, and this much publicised Nigerian (again) case, I think it naive to blame it all on migrants, or to hint at a media cover up. If there is a tendency toward an overly PC attitude, it is on the part of those in authority, who lack the balls to deport these individuals immediately, on foot of a conviction. Most of the lower ranks of migrants (not refugees, they are economic/opportunistic migrants for the most part) who are involved in criminality have no legal authority to be here in the first instance.

psilocybe

This is far from the first report of crack being sold in Ireland.

nxbyveromdwjpg

Wont somebody please think of the children?!

aphex™

No, HERE is the first confirmed seizure in the state. You're 12 years behind the times

The Irish Times

March 11, 1994, CITY EDITION

THE FIRST confirmed seizure of crack cocaine in the State has prompted fears that abuse of the highly addictive substance may be the next phase in the evolving illicit drugs trade.

Tests carried out at the State forensic science laboratory confirmed that an unidentified substance, found by detectives with other drugs during a raid on a house in Dublin's north inner city on Tuesday night, was crack.

The quantity involved was small and is believed to have been smuggled from England for personal use but drug squad officers are concerned that the problem could intensify. "Now that it is here, we hope it is not going to mushroom like the heroin epidemic of the 1980s," said one detective.

Crack, which is manufactured by mixing cocaine salt with bread soda, has caused major crime and social problems in the US and in Britain. Its arrival in this State was regarded as virtually inevitable. A number of small quantities are believed to have been imported by addicts for their own use and attempts have been made to produce substances similar to crack.

Since 1988, a small number of people who have abused crack have presented themselves for detoxification at the National Drug Treatment Centre in Dublin. According to Dr Eamonn Keenan, who is based at the centre, evidence has been emerging over the past few months of rising cocaine abuse and of the availability of crack in certain areas.

Crack is particularly addictive because it takes effect quickly and wears off rapidly. As a result, abusers will take it again and again. According to gardai, this makes it potentially more destructive to society than heroin.

eirebhoy

psilocybe wrote:

This is far from the first report of crack being sold in Ireland.

I though we had a topic dragged up from years ago there for a minute.

impr0v

You can get heroin in Dublin?

gamer

The point i,m saying is there is a certain minority, of immmigrants committing crimes ,that are being not reported in the media ,cos of the last taboo in society, policital corrrectness,i,m sure theres loads of irish drug dealers out there, i.m saying there a certain amount of africans paying irish women to marry them, the going rate is 5grand in dublin,cash,once they are married ,they have no chance of being deported,its a simple financial transaction.Theres no checks of, say,whats your status, did you ever live with this person, these men get married on monday, they never at any point live with thier wifes, they can go out with any 1 they like,its an easy way of making 5grand, no one has to pay 21per cent vat.Its not a romantic relatioship, even a certain /irish times times,writer,implyed that she got married in part so her eastern european boyfriend could,stay here,i,m not implying that she recieved any financial incentive to do so,maybe she was in love,i d,ont know.so far i, have never heard of any irish man paying a woman to marry him.There doesnt seem to be any checks ,waiting period ,by authoritys ,in regard to immigrants marrying irish women.OK, as regards crack i dont,think its avaidable in all areas,like hash or heroin,or cocaine, but i heard no reports in the media of these arrrests.Apart from newstalk.

biko

I'm sure SC grammar nazis are having a fit now

growler

gamer wrote:

The point i,m saying is there is a certain minority, of immmigrants committing crimes ,that are being not reported in the media ,cos of the last taboo in society, policital corrrectness,i,m sure theres loads of irish drug dealers out there, i.m saying there a certain amount of africans paying irish women to marry them, the going rate is 5grand in dublin,cash,once they are married ,they have no chance of being deported,its a simple financial transaction.Theres no checks of, say,whats your status, did you ever live with this person, these men get married on monday, they never at any point live with thier wifes, they can go out with any 1 they like,its an easy way of making 5grand, no one has to pay 21per cent vat.Its not a romantic relatioship, even a certain /irish times times,writer,implyed that she got married in part so her eastern european boyfriend could,stay here,i,m not implying that she recieved any financial incentive to do so,maybe she was in love,i d,ont know.so far i, have never heard of any irish man paying a woman to marry him.There doesnt seem to be any checks ,waiting period ,by authoritys ,in regard to immigrants marrying irish women.OK, as regards crack i dont,think its avaidable in all areas,like hash or heroin,or cocaine, but i heard no reports in the media of these arrrests.Apart from newstalk.

deport the irish women, that would solve the problem.

I know of plenty of Irish men in the UK who married for a fee to secure visas for foreign nationals. I also know of a few Irish men who have acquired foreign "brides" without the prerequisite courting phase, what should we do with them.

And how do you check if someone loves someone anyway ?

BuffyBot

The point..[undecipherable dribble]..from newstalk.

Ermmm..what?

SpAcEd OuT

.... just wait till crystal meth hits the shores, you thought the heroin epidemic was bad you ain't seen nothing yet, its the no.1 problem drug in North America most Asian countries and Australia

MrJoeSoap

Gamer, are you on crack or is that what you actually type like?

Jello

impr0v wrote:

You can get heroin in Dublin?

Yes.

Miguel_Sanchez

fits wrote:

God, crack is the most overhyped drug there is. You do have to be an addictive personality to get addicted to this stuff.

It's a highly addictive substance and slightly naive to dismiss it saying that only those with addictive personalities will get addicted to it.

AngryAnderson

fits wrote:

God, crack is the most overhyped drug there is. The media love to sensationalise it. You do have to be an addictive personality to get addicted to this stuff. I dont think it will ever be a serious problem here. Its certainly not as nasty as crystal meth, in my opinion.

Hmmm, I agree that crystal meth is probably more dangerous on a social level but to say that crack is overhyped, in terms of it's disastrous effects on society, is just downright wrong. Just look at the effect crack has had on any major European or US city over the last few decades. We've been blessed in Ireland that we've been relatively unscathed by crack.

Esel

Me, I'm addicted to capital letters, proper punctuation (spaces after periods and commas etc, not before), and use of paragraphs (via the Return key), use of apostrophe where appropriate. Sadly, the OP is not.

ah well,it,s all a bit of crack :rolleyes:

Hail 2 Da Chimp

gamer wrote:

ie i know 3 irish women married to africans who were paid,to marry them,.

You sure know some classy chicks

drdre

all drug dealers or suppliers should be put in jail.also non nationals should be deported asap.

Mossy Monk

not a bad idea to deport any non nationals (in this country less than 2 years) who are selling this ****

Hail 2 Da Chimp

They should be deported alright... deported by catapult!!!!

Victor

gamer wrote:

I heard father mcverry ,being interviewd on newstalk 3 days ago, he says about,5 africans were arrested in dublin city centre,for selling crack cocaine,the most adddictive powerful,drug yet so far sold in ireland. I FEEL A SENSE OF DEJA VU about this , heroin started off being sold in the inner city in the 80,s now it has spread round the whole country,i think anyone arrrested for drug dealing ,nonnational should be deported in 3 weeks ,after being held in jail.Our government seem to ignore certain drug problems,as long as they are confined to working class inner city areas.I,M not a racist but i think certain problems /crimes are being ignored by the media because of policital correctness,ie there are many africans coming here PAYING irish women to marry them,in order to get residency, ie i know 3 irish women married to africans who were paid,to marry them, they do not live with them, they just get paid in order to let them stay in ireland,they have no romantic relationship with these men, its purely a financial transaction.The media can,t discuss these issues cos of policitical correctness ,ie god forbid you should point at any racial group for committing any crime.Thats not nice.I suppose if you live in dublin 4 ,you probably dont get offered heroin, just that nice middle class drug cocaine.

So, you have a small penis then and can't get laid?

fits

AngryAnderson wrote:

Hmmm, I agree that crystal meth is probably more dangerous on a social level but to say that crack is overhyped, in terms of it's disastrous effects on society, is just downright wrong. Just look at the effect crack has had on any major European or US city over the last few decades. We've been blessed in Ireland that we've been relatively unscathed by crack.

I did look at the effect. It was totally over-hyped and sensationalised by the media. I'm not saying there wasnt a problem, but it was no way as serious as it was made out to be. Certainly not as devastating as heroin. Do a bit of real research on it.... And I do actually know someone who has taken it too. You only get addicted if you allow yourself to.

jimmycrackcorm

Aren't we all just here for the craic?

Blisterman

I'd be very surprised if crack was only just starting to be sold in Ireland.
Cracks been around for decades.

Terry

fits wrote:

I did look at the effect. It was totally over-hyped and sensationalised by the media. I'm not saying there wasnt a problem, but it was no way as serious as it was made out to be. Certainly not as devastating as heroin. Do a bit of real research on it.... And I do actually know someone who has taken it too. You only get addicted if you allow yourself to.

wow. just, wow.
so you're saying that if someone doesn't have an addictive personality, that they can take crack and they will never become addicted to it?
that is, without a doubt, one of the most idiotic things i have ever read.
by that reasoning, the "smoking is highly addictive. don't start" warning should be changed to 'smoking is highly addictive, but only if you have an addictive personality. don't start if you do have an addictive personality. anyone else is fine. you can smoke as long as you like. you won't become addicted. we promise.'

blisterman, regarding your sig. i love that scene. it's a classic. i used to be able to recite that, word for word, back in the 90's. i could do the accent too.
that is all.

Zascar

I'm sure there is plenty of Crack in Ireland, cause we all know how much cocaine there is here already, and its not a particularily difficult to make. Its a horrible drug I've seen what it can do when I was in Australia - I knew a couple of people who used it and it was terrrible how it took over, it is highly addictive. However I must agree with Fits - Crystal Meth is even worse and we are in real trouble when it hits this country. The worst thing about it is that most of the necessary chemicals are readily available in household products or over the counter medicines - so you don't have to be a chemist to produce it. So if its easy to make, and highly addictive which means high demand, there will be plenty of people setting up labs in their house producing a highly profitable business pretty easily. Scary Stuff

ferdi

Sheeeeit!!

bounty

crackheads are amusing

slipss

fits wrote:

I did look at the effect. It was totally over-hyped and sensationalised by the media. I'm not saying there wasnt a problem, but it was no way as serious as it was made out to be. Certainly not as devastating as heroin. Do a bit of real research on it.... And I do actually know someone who has taken it too. You only get addicted if you allow yourself to.

What a strange thing to say. Of course you can only get addicted to it if you allow yourself to. The same as with absalutely everything thats addictive. That deosn't mean that you can start smoking a bit of crack every few days and just say to yourself ahh well I'm not going to allow myself to become addicted to this, and expect to be able to stop at the blink of an eye.

No crack hasn't had as bad an effect in most places than heroin has, and heroin is probably more physically addictive than crack, thats not what makes crack so devastating. Most heroin addicts can support a smack habbit in this country for 40 or 60 euro a day if they have to, a crack habbit is far more expensive meaning you have to commit far more crimes to support it.

When you have a heroin habit you take your hit and then become placid relaxed and incapable or unwilling to immediately go out and commit a violent crime. Crack has the exact opposite effect, you take a few hits chill out for 20 mins and then go out hyped up and extremely aggresive and feeling like your invincible and would have no problem kicking someones head in for their mobile or their i-pod.(these are extreme examples of course).

If you want to get of heroin you can go onto phi or methadone which will go a long way towards handling your cravings (although the methadone system in this country is an utter disgrace.) Thier is no substitute drug for crack.

Of couse in places like America the media and gouvernment over exagerted the crack problem when it was at its hight but that deosn't take away from the fact that it was and still is a major and destructive problem.

As for knowing someone that has taken it, and from your post they presumably told you it was no big deal, as with any drug some people will handle it better than others. I have taken crack and can very easily see how someone could become extremely addicted and reliant on it. I only took one hit but for the rest of the night and for several days after I had to constantly talk myself out of doing it again, and for a few weeks after it was in the back of my mind.

People presume that thier isn't a large supply of crack in the country, thats ridiculas. It only takes five minutes, a bit of normal powder cocaine and a bit of baking soda to make crack, and I don't think anyone would dispute that their is a huge amount of baking soda and and an even larger amount of cocaine readily available throughout this country.

Thankfully the nation and the normal working class people learned painfull leson from the heroin epidemic of the 70's 80' and 90's, and have some (although not nearly enough) resources for drug treatment and prevention, when heroin first became a problem it was still a reletively new drug to most people where as crack has been so widely eperienced in other countries and the damage it causes so widely reported, so I don't think that their will ever be a crack problem to rival the heroin one here.

Having said that thier is a booming crack business already here and its growing. At the minute it is largely among africans and eastern europeans and is being kept away from the main part of the native Irish market by a few major Irish Heroin and coke dealers that don't want to compete with the Nigerian gangs because they don't have the contacts and supply lines set up that the non-nationals do and they are making enough from hash, e, heroin and coke , but the amount of Irish crack users is growing and sooner or later one or several major Irish gangs will enter the crack market in a big way and that is when we will find out just how much damage crack will cause to Ireland.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Ok first of all it is kind of worrying. I read Shane MacGowan's autobiog & he rated crack cocaine worse than heroin, his main point was that a Crack addict will be willing to kill for their hit whereas heroin will usually drive you to slightly lesser crimes. I think he has enough credible experience with drugs & other users to be taken seriously .

Singling out Africans is naive and will make it easier for Irish dealers to go unnoticed.

fits

julep wrote:

wow. just, wow.
so you're saying that if someone doesn't have an addictive personality, that they can take crack and they will never become addicted to it?.

I'm saying that not everyone who takes crack gets badly addicted and turns into a whore/mugger a week later. I'm saying it is not a nice drug, but that its effect on society was completely blown out of proportion. It did not ravage the world like it was supposed to, and now it is a pretty rare problem in places like NYC etc. Dont know about the situation in Australia.

julep wrote:

that is, without a doubt, one of the most idiotic things i have ever read.
by that reasoning, the "smoking is highly addictive. don't start" warning should be changed to 'smoking is highly addictive, but only if you have an addictive personality. don't start if you do have an addictive personality. anyone else is fine. you can smoke as long as you like. you won't become addicted. we promise.'
.

Many people have had the odd cigarette and not become addicted. Many people smoke joints with tobacco in them but do not get addicted to the tobacco. You're deliberately distorting what I'm trying to say.

I have great friends, some of them have tried everything, including crack and crystal meth. According to one of them, if he saw someone attempting to take crystal meth, he'd hit him a smack, and take the meth away, and run as fast as he could, cos thats how nasty it is. That really means something from Mr. I'll put any kind of weird substance in my body

fits

I agree with most of what you say except that its less addictive than heroin. I'm pretty sure thats not the case.
I did qualify the 'addictive personality' thing, it was a strange thing to say. I just dont think crack will become a major problem here, or if it is, it wont last long. AFAIK, by smoking crack, you get extremely high levels of cocaine into the bloodstream, and it is physically very demanding. People die or give up very quickly. And people who see this effect steer clear.
You didnt become addicted, he didnt become addicted, and unless they think very little of themselves, not many will allow themselves to become addicted either

slipss wrote:

What a strange thing to say. Of course you can only get addicted to it if you allow yourself to. The same as with absalutely everything thats addictive. That deosn't mean that you can start smoking a bit of crack every few days and just say to yourself ahh well I'm not going to allow myself to become addicted to this, and expect to be able to stop at the blink of an eye.

No crack hasn't had as bad an effect in most places than heroin has, and heroin is probably more physically addictive than crack, thats not what makes crack so devastating. Most heroin addicts can support a smack habbit in this country for 40 or 60 euro a day if they have to, a crack habbit is far more expensive meaning you have to commit far more crimes to support it.

When you have a heroin habit you take your hit and then become placid relaxed and incapable or unwilling to immediately go out and commit a violent crime. Crack has the exact opposite effect, you take a few hits chill out for 20 mins and then go out hyped up and extremely aggresive and feeling like your invincible and would have no problem kicking someones head in for their mobile or their i-pod.(these are extreme examples of course).

If you want to get of heroin you can go onto phi or methadone which will go a long way towards handling your cravings (although the methadone system in this country is an utter disgrace.) Thier is no substitute drug for crack.

Of couse in places like America the media and gouvernment over exagerted the crack problem when it was at its hight but that deosn't take away from the fact that it was and still is a major and destructive problem.

As for knowing someone that has taken it, and from your post they presumably told you it was no big deal, as with any drug some people will handle it better than others. I have taken crack and can very easily see how someone could become extremely addicted and reliant on it. I only took one hit but for the rest of the night and for several days after I had to constantly talk myself out of doing it again, and for a few weeks after it was in the back of my mind.

People presume that thier isn't a large supply of crack in the country, thats ridiculas. It only takes five minutes, a bit of normal powder cocaine and a bit of baking soda to make crack, and I don't think anyone would dispute that their is a huge amount of baking soda and and an even larger amount of cocaine readily available throughout this country.

Thankfully the nation and the normal working class people learned painfull leson from the heroin epidemic of the 70's 80' and 90's, and have some (although not nearly enough) resources for drug treatment and prevention, when heroin first became a problem it was still a reletively new drug to most people where as crack has been so widely eperienced in other countries and the damage it causes so widely reported, so I don't think that their will ever be a crack problem to rival the heroin one here.

Having said that thier is a booming crack business already here and its growing. At the minute it is largely among africans and eastern europeans and is being kept away from the main part of the native Irish market by a few major Irish Heroin and coke dealers that don't want to compete with the Nigerian gangs because they don't have the contacts and supply lines set up that the non-nationals do and they are making enough from hash, e, heroin and coke , but the amount of Irish crack users is growing and sooner or later one or several major Irish gangs will enter the crack market in a big way and that is when we will find out just how much damage crack will cause to Ireland.

Bottle_of_Smoke

fits wrote:

Many people have had the odd cigarette and not become addicted. Many people smoke joints with tobacco in them but do not get addicted to the tobacco. You're deliberately distorting what I'm trying to say.

I have great friends, some of them have tried everything, including crack and crystal meth. According to one of them, if he saw someone attempting to take crystal meth, he'd hit him a smack, and take the meth away, and run as fast as he could, cos thats how nasty it is. That really means something from Mr. I'll put any kind of weird substance in my body

True, and the second part I've heard similar accounts,

Just imagine the junkies who hassled us were just as desperate but weren't physically impaired as a heroin user. That's what worries me. Though it must be noted they could have jobs finance it personally once they have some sort of control.

slipss

As for Crystal meth, it really deos **** you up bad if you get hooked on it, from lack of sleep, starvation and dehydration. When I was in america for a couple of months the girl whos flat I ws staying ins brother used to be a big meth head but was off the stuff about about a year. He told me that at one stage on of his friends who was on the meth too didn't sleep or eat four over a week at one time and went completely nuts, locked himeslf in his appartment with a big bag of meth and a shotgun and fired through the door at anyone that treid to get in to help him. In the end they had to ring the cops and they busted in and shot him him up. When they brought him out he was after completely skinning one of his arms with a kitchen knife and had cut nearly to the bone in places.

Having said all that I still did a good bit of it when I was over there and had a great time on it, its kinda like really really good speed, and you get little rushes like when your coming up on e, the itchy skin ya get is a bit anoyying. Still I wouldn't advise anyone to try it unless they know from expeeirience that they can handle addictive drugs. If you ever for some reason happen to do it, don't do it two nights in a row and only buy what you need, if you buy more than you plan on taking I garauntee you'll do all that you buy.

fits

slipss wrote:

Having said all that I still did a good bit of it when I was over there and had a great time on it, its kinda like really really good speed, and you get little rushes like when your coming up on e, the itchy skin ya get is a bit anoyying. Still I wouldn't advise anyone to try it unless they know from expeeirience that they can handle addictive drugs. If you ever for some reason happen to do it, don't do it two nights in a row and only buy what you need, if you buy more than you plan on taking I garauntee you'll do all that you buy.

ahem.. I'll think I'll be ok without trying that stuff or crack for that matter.

bottle of smoke I agree with you about desperate wired crackheads. I wouldnt like to meet one on a lonely alley way at night. Still think that normal cocaine is the biggest threat to this country at the moment, because people seem to think its harmless, but it sneaks up on them.

hullaballoo

Hey fits, ever heard of a crack whore?

Terry

fits wrote:

ahem.. I'll think I'll be ok without trying that stuff or crack for that matter.

bottle of smoke I agree with you about desperate wired crackheads. I wouldnt like to meet one on a lonely alley way at night. Still think that normal cocaine is the biggest threat to this country at the moment, because people seem to think its harmless, but it sneaks up on them.

indeed. i've seen two of my closest friends succumb to a coke habit and it has turned them into complete assholes. i know plenty of others who can't go out without doing coke and they are spending more and more each weekend.
the thing is, i don't see the attraction. it's a crap drug.
now before you go saying that the quality isn't as good as it is in *insert foreign location here*, i did enough to make up for the poor quality and it was still crap. all it really did was sober me up and make me drink more. i'll stick to beer, thanks. you know what you're getting and are assured of a nice buzz every time.

Zascar

I agree Ive done coke loads of times and plenty of it and really don't see why everone loves it so much. Extacy beats it hands down in my opinion but pills are horrible in their own way too..

fits

hullaballoo wrote:

Hey fits, ever heard of a crack whore?

no, I've never heard of it... whats that???:rolleyes: Relevance???

fits wrote:

I'm saying that not everyone who takes crack gets badly addicted and turns into a whore/mugger a week later.

fits

julep wrote:

the thing is, i don't see the attraction. it's a crap drug.
now before you go saying that the quality isn't as good as it is in *insert foreign location here*, i did enough to make up for the poor quality and it was still crap. all it really did was sober me up and make me drink more. i'll stick to beer, thanks. you know what you're getting and are assured of a nice buzz every time.

agreed. It makes for gawdawful house parties too. Noones interested in anything only talking the loudest. Beer is the nicest buzz.

Bottle_of_Smoke

fits wrote:

Relevance???

teehee you just condemned your own quote!

Terry

fits wrote:

agreed. It makes for gawdawful house parties too. Noones interested in anything only talking the loudest. Beer is the nicest buzz.

house parties?
you can't go to a pub in this town without seeing half the people there off their heads on coke. i've stopped drinking with many of my friends because of the company they keep and the amount of drugs they themselves are doing in the pub.

fits

julep wrote:

house parties?
you can't go to a pub in this town without seeing half the people there off their heads on coke. i've stopped drinking with many of my friends because of the company they keep and the amount of drugs they themselves are doing in the pub.

I know. I think coke makes people so arrogant and self obsessed, that I get far less enjoyment out of going out in town than I used to. A drug such as ecstasy has its drawbacks, but it made for a great atmosphere when it was popular.

AngryAnderson

fits wrote:

I did look at the effect. It was totally over-hyped and sensationalised by the media. I'm not saying there wasnt a problem, but it was no way as serious as it was made out to be. Certainly not as devastating as heroin. Do a bit of real research on it.... And I do actually know someone who has taken it too. You only get addicted if you allow yourself to.

First of all, there hasn't been anything even remotely resembling a crack epidemic in Ireland yet. Secondly, don't be so patronising when you obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about. 'You only get addicted if you allow yourself to' indeed. Tsk!

AngryAnderson

fits wrote:

I know. I think coke makes people so arrogant and self obsessed

Wow. Which one of your schoolmates told you that? Or did you read it from some anti-drugs pamphlet going around? Coke has different effects on different people. The idea that people become 'arrogant' on coke is a retarded notion espoused by people who don't have a clue what they're talking about. Generally gained from the fact that the single middle-class cokehead they know is a stuck up twat.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Stop trying to sound like you do. :rolleyes:

fits

AngryAnderson wrote:

Wow. Which one of your schoolmates told you that? Or did you read it from some anti-drugs pamphlet going around? Coke has different effects on different people. The idea that people become 'arrogant' on coke is a retarded notion espoused by people who don't have a clue what they're talking about. Generally gained from the fact that the single middle-class cokehead they know is a stuck up twat.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Stop trying to sound like you do. :rolleyes:

wow you are angry:D

My best friend in transition year told me and she knows cos her big brother did it twice.:D

Sounds like you're in denial mister... In my experience it makes people very interested in talking, and not so interested in listening (or it exaggerates this trait). And you have to admit, one cares less about consequences of actions when on the stuff. Its a really boring drug...

fits

AngryAnderson wrote:

First of all, there hasn't been anything even remotely resembling a crack epidemic in Ireland yet.

I never said there was. And the hype and sensationalism I was referring to was in the case of New York. You should read up on it...

Heres a link to a really great book. Its easy to read and well researched.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0753506270/qid=1147551851/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_3_5/026-0576156-5247651

bounty

fits wrote:

wow you are angry:D

My best friend in transition year told me and she knows cos her big brother did it twice.:D

damm it must be true, you mean, he actually said that!

yea arrogant and self obsessed is a good way to describe someone on coke, apparently it causes your brain to make more dopamine (my source on this is same as fits's, of course )

the thing that makes it such a shjtty drug is how short the buzz lasts, and its so bloody expensive

now weed, theres a drug of choice (once you've finished school), its so cheap (stuff literally grows on trees), it makes sex and food great, and the buzz is funny and long lasting

AngryAnderson

fits wrote:

Sounds like you're in denial mister... In my experience it makes people very interested in talking, and not so interested in listening (or it exaggerates this trait). And you have to admit, one cares less about consequences of actions when on the stuff. Its a really boring drug...

Have you done much of it?