M5 or M6?

junkyard

I'm thinking of changing my 01 M5 for a new M5 or M6. I've driven both and would be happy driving either one but I can't seem to like the styling of the new 5 series but would prefer a saloon car as its a bit more discreet. Any opinions? Or even an Audi RS6 estate?

qz

M5 M5 M5.

Save yourself the extra 20k or so, and you can have two extra doors . And if you don't like the styling, why not get a Hartge bodykit? And some nicer wheels, even M6 ones, or Alpinas.

Any thoughts on colour combos? Go for the Interlagos Blue, rarer than Silverstone, and a real head turner. It can look stunning in Alpineweiss also.

Make sure to check out www.m5board.com, for loads of info from owners and for owners, (head to the E60 M5/M6 forum).

It's a tricky choice, but I wouldn't mind being in your position of having to choose. Keep us updated!

qz

junkyard

It can only be black, to match with the rest of the fleet and its my favourite colour. What about the Audi RS6 estate? I haven't driven one yet but I'm going over to the U.K. in a couple of weeks to have a look around.:)

qz

I'm 110% biased towards BMW, M Powered ones in particular, so I'd say no to the RS6!

If you want people to know that you're driving a monster, get the M5. If you'd like to keep it under wraps, go for the Audi.

colm_mcm

definately M5

KTRIC

Same engine in both cars. The M5 also has 2 more doors and is a proper saloon. You can turn the M5 enhancements off during the week and drive it like a normal car and then at the weekend you can have your sports car.

colm_mcm

If you're thinking M6, there are so many better cars for €167,000. An M5 at under €140,000 seems like a (relative) bargain

Magown3

colm_mcm wrote:

If you're thinking M6, there are so many better cars for €167,000. An M5 at under €140,000 seems like a (relative) bargain

yes but an RS6 will cost half that again since you cannot buy them new anymore (I think) Link. Anyway, if JC is lookin for a bargain then he's lookin at 3 totally wrong cars...... go for the Aygo:D

Honestly tho, my vote has to go for the Audi... I just love them. Looks, practicallity, refinement, and best of all, performance !!

Mayshine

How about a new Audi RS4 - unless you need the extra weight and bulk of the 5 series then a nice 420hp V8 saloon sounds like a nice option. Looks nice too. Probably much cheaper than the M5 and looks much better

Squirrel

Wait for the new RS6 before you make a decision. Personally I'd keep the E39 over getting an E60. It's a nicer looking car but I suppose the driving experience isn't the same with the 5 litre V10

ando

I'd go with the Audi, it has it all but doesn’t particularly want to broadcast that it’s the dogs. If i had the money its the audi

bazz26

Audi RS4 - 420bhp 4.2 litre V8 - €105k, 0 - 100kph 4.8 seconds, Max Speed 250kph.

BMW M5 - 507bhp 5.0 litre V10 - €137k, 0 - 100kph 4.7 seconds, Max Speed 250kph.

BMW M6 - 507bhp 5.0 litre V10 - €165k, 0 - 100kph 4.6 seconds, Max Speed 250kph.

Rather than buying the M6 I'd go for the Audi as a weekday car and this for the weekends with the change left over :
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=303882&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Ferrari%20348%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=53960763&CFTOKEN=52357146

528i

I wouldn't buy a new M5 as they're much too fragile. This guy has been through 3 new gearboxes so far, and most the [albeit enthusiastically driven] press released cars have had similar problems with electrics/rear diff/smg etc. The E39 is virtually bulletproof in that regard, even high-milers with rattly vanos don't fail.

There's a 6-speed manual being launched this autumn and that's the one to go for, in black/black with the G-sensing multi-function seats and logic 7, no mind the rest of those extras (€11,000 for full leather loike!) they're not worth it.

RedorDead

Squirrel wrote:

Wait for the new RS6 before you make a decision. Personally I'd keep the E39 over getting an E60. It's a nicer looking car but I suppose the driving experience isn't the same with the 5 litre V10

The new RS6 (saloon and estate) will be out next year. It will have in excess of 600bhp.

In the meantime, the new S6 will be in Ireland from July onwards. 420bhp and also available for under 100k.

Pic here.

Squirrel

RedorDead wrote:

The new RS6 (saloon and estate) will be out next year. It will have in excess of 600bhp.

In the meantime, the new S6 will be in Ireland from July onwards. 420bhp and also available for under 100k.

Pic here.

The S6 has the 5.2 V10 based on the Gallardo's no? Just de-tuned? 600hp in a practical body. *drools*

Tony Danza

I'd love to have your predicament.

ds20prefecture

How about a chipped, debadged 535d Touring?

junkyard

I bought a new X5 in February for the dogs and for hacking during the week,(I know you don't like them ds but they really are the best of the bunch, a great engine and automatic and loads of spec.) What I really want is a new E39 M5, the nearest I got to one is a 04 in Richmond Motor Company, but it didn't have as much spec. as my own one. I'm going to the U.K. in a couple weeks time to have a look around. I might even go for a 2 or 3 year old Aston DB 9 if the price is right and I like what I see.:)

qz

junkyard wrote:

I might even go for a 2 or 3 year old Aston DB 9 if the price is right and I like what I see.:)

:eek: I will love you forever if you do.

junkyard

qz wrote:

:eek: I will love you forever if you do.

I'll set up a fan club if you like qz and I'll let you join for a nominal fee and if I get enough members I'll buy a new one every year for my fans.:D

Squirrel

junkyard wrote:

I'll set up a fan club if you like qz and I'll let you join for a nominal fee and if I get enough members I'll buy a new one every year for my fans.:D

Can I get a discount? Have you not got a 911 on order or am I mistaking you with someone else, junkyard?

junkyard

I did have Squirrel, but I made the big mistake of trying to deal with Porsche in Dublin and it seems to me that they're not interested in supplying cars outside Dublin and pushing you back in the waiting list in favour of their buddies. So after many months of waiting I just went off the whole idea of buying a Porsche considering I would probably have to deal with them for servicing.

Squirrel

junkyard wrote:

I did have Squirrel, but I made the big mistake of trying to deal with Porsche in Dublin and it seems to me that they're not interested in supplying cars outside Dublin and pushing you back in the waiting list in favour of their buddies. So after many months of waiting I just went off the whole idea of buying a Porsche considering I would probably have to deal with them for servicing.

Sorry to hear that mate. You'd think they'd treat you like royalty spending so much on a car. Have you thought of a 1999 550 Maranello here?

qz

Squirrel wrote:

Sorry to hear that mate. You'd think they'd treat you like royalty spending so much on a car. Have you thought of a 1999 550 Maranello here?

Pfft, it'll only hit 199mph

Squirrel

qz wrote:

Pfft, it'll only hit 199mph

In that case I think that car should be crushed. I absolutely love that car, I have a 1:18 scale one exactly like it, same colour interior and all.

[joke]I think it is time that the Skoda Octavia gets mentioned on this thread. The vRS has 5 doors, a 2 litre Turbo FSI engine[/joke]

junkyard

[joke]I think it is time that the Skoda Octavia gets mentioned on this thread. The vRS has 5 doors, a 2 litre Turbo FSI engine[/joke][/QUOTE]

Stop lowering the tone of the thread Squirrel or before you know it someone will recommend an Alfa.;)

Squirrel

junkyard wrote:

Stop lowering the tone of the thread Squirrel or before you know it someone will recommend an Alfa.;)

Then there'll be a huge debate about Alfa's so I vote that doesn't happen. When you get something be sure to keep us posted, junkyard.

ds20prefecture

junkyard wrote:

I bought a new X5 in February for the dogs and for hacking during the week,(I know you don't like them ds but they really are the best of the bunch, a great engine and automatic and loads of spec.)

I was thinking more of the "discreet" bit than the dogs. There's nothing more discreet than a diesel estate, and by all accounts the 535d is not much slower than an M5 in the real world.

8'37" lap of the nurburgring in a chipped 535d, compared to an M5

PS: Who cares what I think about the X5 - you like it, doncha?

Abelloid

You might want to visit this dealer I heard about over the weekend



It's in Penn, near High Wycombe, a village that has "nowhere to buy bread and milk"
-nice collection, and you might find something else to tempt you

Gatster

What about a Quattroporte?

ds20prefecture

Gatster wrote:

What about a Quattroporte?

Nah... Junkyard doesn't do stylish italian cars ...

rabbitinlights

A White M5 Hartge........

redman

and why not an Alfa?;)

junkyard

Did someone say Alfa????? redman, if I was a mod you'd be banned.:D Gatster, I drove a Quattroporte in Italy last year and the only thing I think of when I think of Italian cars is two Italian blokes fighting about curves and the image of the car in general and f**k everything else, so no I don't do Italian cars. That goes for Ferrari's too Squirrel. Nice selection of cars there Justin, nice prices too.;)
A white M5 is too bling for me rabbitinlights and anyway I don't have any gold jewelery to go with it.:)

Squirrel

junkyard wrote:

Did someone say Alfa????? redman, if I was a mod you'd be banned.:D Gatster, I drove a Quattroporte in Italy last year and the only thing I think of when I think of Italian cars is two Italian blokes fighting about curves and the image of the car in general and f**k everything else, so no I don't do Italian cars. That goes for Ferrari's too Squirrel. Nice selection of cars there Justin, nice prices too.;)

Being able to say I don't do Ferrari's, now that is just sweet. Now I'd be really jealous if I hadn't just got the best news I've had in a long long time.

A Honda NSX, check British websites because they usually have a few.

Fabritzo

What about a Brabus E, they seem to tune alot of cars in your favourite colour.

Gatster

I drove a Quattroporte in Italy last year

In fairness my Dad's friend (in the Uk) bought a Quattroporte three weeks ago, it was delivered on a Thursday and by the following Friday he'd sent it back, don't know why at this stage, maybe he feels the same as you! I think he's bought a Flying Spur, he wanted four doors as he's already got an SL500, and coincidentally, an X5.

junkyard

Merc's aren't what they used to be so not for me either Fabritzo. I like the idea of a Bentley but having seen the very new ones, no, I really don't like Volkswagen's anymore. The Aston is the only British built car I would consider, I had my share of Range Rovers and Jags and they too fell apart.

TCP/IP

I have driven both the new M5 and M6 and the M5 wins hands down infact i would do as far as saying that the M6 is a horrible ride with a terrible gearbox just my opinion. I would take the Audi anyday it has a bit of class the BMW's are just common

colm_mcm

I've never driven the M6. just the 645. beautiful noise!

drdre

i have driven the m5 in the uk,i have to say they are amazing cars and also have great power.the m6 looks nice but is more expensive and is not practical.

in uk the m5 is only around 55-60k second hand.AFAIK.

Seth Brundle

Sure it is only £63k new over there

optiplexgx270

Saw the first M6 today in the dump of all places And meh not that impressed although I did like the maroon colour a lot. But I guess seeing DB9's, 911,s cl600's, f460,f355, f430 spider and the odd hummer etc in the office building car park in work sort of has me immunized

But i agree M5/M6 is a tought one but i think if it was me id go with the M5 and throw 20K of toys in her.

Oh one other thought what do you think of the CLS55 AMG??

ciarsd

M5 for Ireland - no question.

phoenix_nights

junkyard wrote:

I bought a new X5 in February for the dogs and for hacking during the week,

Read what you wrote this morning and its being bugging me all day. Dont want to come across as a holy joe but could not help thinking that you could have bought an old reliable volvo 740 or 940 estate and with the money saved you could have donated and saved a couple of hundred kids from starving to death in africa.

And i dont think the dogs would have noticed the difference.

But i am no holy joe as i said but that was in my head today.

drdre

optiplexgx270 wrote:

Saw the first M6 today in the dump of all places And meh not that impressed although I did like the maroon colour a lot. But I guess seeing DB9's, 911,s cl600's, f460,f355, f430 spider and the odd hummer etc in the office building car park in work sort of has me immunized

But i agree M5/M6 is a tought one but i think if it was me id go with the M5 and throw 20K of toys in her.

Oh one other thought what do you think of the CLS55 AMG??

where the hell do you work, to see all those cars:D

optiplexgx270

I couldnt understand it myself until i found out that an exotic cars head office is in the building and well looks like the car park is used as his forecourt

Thats where i saw the RS2 last week/week before. You would cry some days cos the building is still under construction and well when you see "Wash Me" written on the bonnet of a 06 DB9 or f460.

Edit: It's an underground car park hense the really thick dust from time to time.

drdre

optiplexgx270 wrote:

I couldnt understand it myself until i found out that an exotic cars head office is in the building and well looks like the car park is used as his forecourt

Thats where i saw the RS2 last week/week before. You would cry some days cos the building is still under construction and well when you see "Wash Me" written on the bonnet of a 06 DB9 or f460.

Edit: It's an underground car park hense the really thick dust from time to time.

is the f460 a new ferrari model.:D i think you mean f430

ds20prefecture

phoenix_nights wrote:

Read what you wrote this morning and its being bugging me all day. Dont want to come across as a holy joe but could not help thinking that you could have bought an old reliable volvo 740 or 940 estate and with the money saved you could have donated and saved a couple of hundred kids from starving to death in africa.

And i dont think the dogs would have noticed the difference.

But i am no holy joe as i said but that was in my head today.

Unbelievable. Please tell us what percentage of your income and time you donate to the starving children in Africa that enables you be so judgemental of how other people spend their well earned. You could sell your car and feed a couple of hundred - or are you not prepared to do that? BTW: Charity has nothing to do with holiness - if it was the Vatican would not be one of the richest states in the world.

Supposing Junkyard donates 1000000 per year? Or spends 50% of his time doing volunteer work? Or doesn't believe in having 50% of his donation wasted on elaborate distribution, management or staffing overheads that most charities bring? Or chooses not to give one penny? Either way, who are you to judge?

This is a motoring forum. Cars are, comparatively speaking, the most expensive luxury we buy. Nobody strictly needs a car. You could walk, or take public transport, or ride a bike, or build a go cart. If you feel that because somebody can afford an expensive car that they are morally obligated to take that money and feed somebody else then you have an awful lot of preaching to do because to a starving child in Africa, a €100 Peugeot 404 is a very expensive car.

optiplexgx270

No actually im not a Ferrari fan so im always screwing the models up its a 550 (just checked google images)

Currently in the car park:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=372166
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=355601
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=406990
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=279792
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=280151
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=355292
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=279796

Havent seen these in a while:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=355602
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=392960
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=101789
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=327342
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=178126


Sorry to get way off topic OP but i think the CLS is a great looking car and with the same block as the SL55 AMG sweet ride but a wee bit pricier.

drdre

optiplexgx270 wrote:

No actually im not a Ferrari fan so im always screwing the models up its a 550 (just checked google images)

Currently in the car park:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=372166
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=355601
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=406990
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=279792
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=280151
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=355292
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=279796

Havent seen these in a while:
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=355602
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=392960
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=101789
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=327342
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=178126


Sorry to get way off topic OP but i think the CLS is a great looking car and with the same block as the SL55 AMG sweet ride but a wee bit pricier.

so you work in sandyford.