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False rape claims

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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Rape does tend to be a rather violent/forceful act though. Without getting too explicit, a woman who isn't aroused or co-operating is much more likely to suffer detectable damage and bruising through forced intercourse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,815 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    What about prostitutes, 'rough sex' or submission gone too far?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    The vagaina will lube it's self out of self defense at the repeated forced penatration.
    Rape while physically voilent may not be sufficently so to bruise, rip or tear.

    Rough consensual sex can leave more marks then a rape and again it comes down to proving the bitemarks and scratches were from an act of rape and not from passionate sex or rough sex, which is consent again or word against word and the defense questioning did a victum ever give/recieve a hickey or did they ever scratch someone mid cotius.

    You have bite marks, the persons skin under your nails, scratches on thier person, thier dna inside you and suffer the horrendus ordeal of reporting the rape, undergoing the rape kit examination and all the waiting arround that can take and the giving of statments and follow up statements and it never gets prosecuted for a lot of differing reasons.

    A rape victum is considered merely a witness to the crime under the justice system and despite the physical evidence unless they are deemed to be
    unscrutible and can stand up to the muck raking that goes with a case and
    able to with stand the ordeal that is the wait for it to come to trail and are able to with stand the hammering they will get in court the case most likely will not be prosecuted.

    http://www.irishhealth.com/index.html?level=4&id=6874
    Ms Mulkerrins also pointed out that rapes that are reported are often never resolved. She pointed to a study of 20 European countries, which found that Ireland had the highest rate of attrition (95%) in relation to rape. This refers to cases that are never resolved, for example if the victim pulls out of the investigative process or if the DPP is sent a file but decides not to pursue a criminal prosecution.

    Ms Mulkerrins criticised the fact that when the DPP decides not to pursue a criminal prosecution, no reason has to be given.

    "Six out of every 10 rape cases sent to the DPP are not pursued. We would like to see more transparency in this. If a case is dropped, what are the reasons. If we know, then we can begin to address some of these issues", she said.

    She also pointed out that there is insufficient support at all levels, from the initial examination period, through to the court process. She highlighted the fact that there are not enough sexual assault treatment units and even where such units are available, staffing can be a big problem. Furthermore if the case is being pursued by the DPP, this can take a considerable length of time.

    "The entire process is so long that unless the person has huge support, they may drop out of it", she added.

    The idea of someone making false rape claims and false sexaul harrashment claims makes me incredibly angry,
    having seen several people had thier lives torn apart due to rape, sexual assualt and sexual harassment and not
    being able to really do anything about it due to how screwed up the system is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Nasty_Girl


    seamus wrote:
    Rape does tend to be a rather violent/forceful act though. Without getting too explicit, a woman who isn't aroused or co-operating is much more likely to suffer detectable damage and bruising through forced intercourse.

    That is not always the case and even if it was, a guy can say "Oh Nasty Girl is a dirty bitch and she likes it rough",
    Hell he could even say "she just put those injuries on her self to frame me because she's a psycho" and we're back to square one.

    Coz lets face it, when we live in a world where people are sick enough to rape someone and other people are sick enough to pretend to be raped, anything is possible.


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