Conferral Question

Red Alert

Do they separate people according to first, 2.1, 2.2 pass etc at the conferrals?

I really wouldn't like it if they did?

Vainglory

Red Alert wrote:

Do they separate people according to first, 2.1, 2.2 pass etc at the conferrals?

I really wouldn't like it if they did?

As far as I know it's alphabetical in Arts anyway.

tintinr35

he just says " bachelor of...........(insert degree) honours please stand and then ur names are called out

cruiserweight

Was alphabetical order for science anyway, but if I remember correctly that was within all of the different types of degrees, so joint honours, single honours, topical etc. all went up as a group!

irlrobins

cruiserweight wrote:

Was alphabetical order for science anyway, but if I remember correctly that was within all of the different types of degrees, so joint honours, single honours, topical etc. all went up as a group!

What he said ^

singingstranger

Alpha-ma-betical.

besty

singingstranger wrote:

Alpha-ma-betical.

Confer-a-ma-...doh!

Scraggs

cona-ma-ferral;)

Pythia

Red Alert wrote:

Do they separate people according to first, 2.1, 2.2 pass etc at the conferrals?

I really wouldn't like it if they did?

Unless you got a first of course.

humbert

I'm sure it's his own modesty that's making him uncomfortable.

cruiserweight

Pythia wrote:

Unless you got a first of course.

Damn it, I should have gone up before the rest of the plebs

besty

If they actually do give the degrees out in that segregated manner dependant on your results, it will be quite a hairy experience would't you think? I'm sure the more subtle alphabetical method would be more welcome by the graduates (except for those with a first obviously)

scop

The longest, most boring wait in your life as you watch 300 people walk to a podium to collect paper in alphabetical order.

Blowfish

scop wrote:

The longest, most boring wait in your life as you watch 300 people walk to a podium to collect paper in alphabetical order.

Dammit my surname begins with an S, so i'll be one of the last:(

Hermione*

IIRC, Arts is so huge it's split into three categories

blondie83

No worries Peader - its done alphabetically and by department. First the Ag and food types (turns out they do exist!), then the chems, then the civils, the elecs followed by the mechs. Then the masters followed by the phd's. Its completly alphabetical and grade doesnt come into it, but given your record I can't think why you'd be worried about that!

besty

Ah, the joys of having a surname beginning with "B"

Blush_01

Blowfish wrote:

Dammit my surname begins with an S, so i'll be one of the last:(

Snap.

R, Ú. Right at the end of the Rs too. The only person after me will be Xavier Xavierson!

boneless

Blush_01 wrote:

Snap.

R, Ú. Right at the end of the Rs too. The only person after me will be Xavier Xavierson!

I changed my name to Zachariah Zebrason III.

rain on

Hermione* wrote:

IIRC, Arts is so huge it's split into three categories

even with that it still takes an insanely long time.. there's like 500 people in a section or something. at least that's what it feels like. and even if you're at the start, you still have to wait while everybody else gets theirs.

getting to wear a horrendously silly hat if you're a girl is good fun though

Chinafoot

rain on wrote:

getting to wear a horrendously silly hat if you're a girl is good fun though

Actually theres a question. Can you refuse to wear the hat?

I absolutely hate what it stands for (capping your education, i.e. going no further because you're a female.) and I'd really rather not wear it on the day.

Note that all this is assuming I manage to pass this year.

rain on

peachypants wrote:

Actually theres a question. Can you refuse to wear the hat?

I absolutely hate what it stands for (capping your education, i.e. going no further because you're a female.) and I'd really rather not wear it on the day.

Note that all this is assuming I manage to pass this year.

yeah I had a friend who didn't wear it for the same reason, i don't think it was a big deal.
i also hate what it stands for, but having already started a masters by the time i graduated gave me a bit of 'in your face, hat!' feeling. also i love silly hats. can't wait to wear another one at my MA graduation.

irlrobins

Yes you can refuse to wear the hat. I think the president is supposed to refuse to shake ur hand if you do, but certainly at my grad he shook all the girls hands, hat or not. I wanted to wear the hat....:(

Hermione*

I want to, but my mum gets upset about traditions and the 'proper' way to do things, and stuff, so I think I may actaully have to. But if I get a masters place (fingers crossed!), I might wear it for the 'in your face, hat!' thing. If I don't wear it, I can either try feeding Mum a 'it's so passe' line, or else get on to Dad about the inequalities of it, girls are just as intelligent as boys, etc and Dad'll do it for me

rain on

irlrobins wrote:

Yes you can refuse to wear the hat. I think the president is supposed to refuse to shake ur hand if you do, but certainly at my grad he shook all the girls hands, hat or not. I wanted to wear the hat....:(

do you get to wear one at your PhD conferral? or is the implication that men are INFINITELY wise and knowledgeable?

irlrobins

Yea I think so. My mum keeps going on about "when do I get to see you in the lovely red robes?". :rolleyes: She hasn't a clue about what I do, just wants to be able to boost to her friends how I'm a Dr or something.

rain on

irlrobins wrote:

Yea I think so. My mum keeps going on about "when do I get to see you in the lovely red robes?". :rolleyes: She hasn't a clue about what I do, just wants to be able to boost to her friends how I'm a Dr or something.

cue witty 'what's wrong with me, doctor?' comments, Friends stylee.

blondie83

peachypants wrote:

Actually theres a question. Can you refuse to wear the hat?

I absolutely hate what it stands for (capping your education, i.e. going no further because you're a female.) and I'd really rather not wear it on the day.

Note that all this is assuming I manage to pass this year.

I think the hat rocks...but then I've always loved hats. none of the 8 girls in my class were very happy about the symbolism, but none wanted to upset parents either. So hats were held in hand, then put on last minute before the procession in, then taken off again on been seated, then put on again for going up to get the scroll and the processing out, then left off. (except for the official photo) Well thats what most off the other girls did - I left mine on cos I wasn't gonna let some ridiculous rumour thing like that stop me from wearing it, and as said before I like hats Its no big deal anyway ya just wear it if ya want and don't if ya don't and no one really cares!

Lisapeep

On a kinda related note, does anyone know when the Arts and Science graduation ceremonies are each on?

(Like, when were they on last year even? Even if you could give me a rough idea that'd be great!)

snickerpuss

Ucd Conferral Schedule
Thats what you need.

singingstranger

A PhD's not the end, though, so if you're going for the next thing up (the name of which eludes me... it's just two letters anyway, takes about twenty years of research work to get or something) you could go without the hat when getting your doctorate!...

Lisapeep

snickerpuss wrote:

Ucd Conferral Schedule
Thats what you need.

Unfortunately, that's no help at all as it doesn't give any dates past November 2006 and I always thought that the conferring ceremony for Science was in December?

Any graduates able to help me out here? Roughly when are the arts and science graduation ceremonies on?

rain on

Lisapeep wrote:

Unfortunately, that's no help at all as it doesn't give any dates past November 2006 and I always thought that the conferring ceremony for Science was in December?

Any graduates able to help me out here? Roughly when are the arts and science graduation ceremonies on?

arts is in early december, if i remember correctly. i think i graduated on like december 5th or something.

singingstranger

After consultation ... the one after the PhD (in Science fields anyway) is the Doctor of Science (DS), which takes about twenty years to get hold of and is VERY selectively awarded on application by some universities. Seemingly the head of the postgrad Computer Science school (or one of those things anyway) applied for his from a British university last year and still hasn't gotten a full decision.

rain on

singingstranger wrote:

After consultation ... the one after the PhD (in Science fields anyway) is the Doctor of Science (DS), which takes about twenty years to get hold of and is VERY selectively awarded on application by some universities. Seemingly the head of the postgrad Computer Science school (or one of those things anyway) applied for his from a British university last year and still hasn't gotten a full decision.

iiinteresting. i was wondering the other day what the difference is between a Ph.D and a D.Phil.. maybe that's it..

Scraggs

rain on wrote:

iiinteresting. i was wondering the other day what the difference is between a Ph.D and a D.Phil.. maybe that's it..

heehee Dr.Phil

arbeitsscheuer

Scraggs wrote:

heehee Dr.Phil

Hilarious.:rolleyes:

Hey peachy, if you don't wanna wear the hat I will! Sure, I'm not going any further in my education anyway, so the "capping" would actually be accurate in my case...:D

Blush_01

rain on wrote:

do you get to wear one at your PhD conferral? or is the implication that men are INFINITELY wise and knowledgeable?

The big puffy mushroom hats are the PhD ones. Both women and men wear them.

Scraggs, I'm pretty sure they're the same thing. An M.Phil. is a multidisciplinary masters, isn't it? I know that all the Medieval Studies masters courses that are multidisciplinary are M.Phils anyway. And a PhD makes you a doctor of philosophy in <insert discipline here> as far as I know. At least that's what I was vaguely told at the Postgrad fair in the RDS. Therefore a D. Phil and PhD are the same (the Ph is from Phil, isn't it?).

Am I even vaguely on the right track?

Blush_01

Hats look so stupid on me. It's not my fault, it's just that every hat ever made is wrong, that's all.

Red Alert, as far as I know it's pretty soon after Arts breaks up for christmas, class-wise. My mum graduated from UCC on the day of my 21st, which was in December last year.

singingstranger

The DS people get the same puffy hat as the PhD people do.

boneless

Can I wear my old army uniform? I think that would look nice and it's the only tie I have anyhow... and the Red Band Cap looks cool!!