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The male naked body should never be seen on screen. True or false?

  • 11-04-2006 4:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 PeterGriffen


    I bought Fast Times at Ridgemont High cos I heard that it was a cult classic. I wasn't that impressed. Anyway, after reading peoples comments on the imdb, one woman was very angry at the gratuitous female nudity in the movie and the fact that men never get their kit off in movies. I've always thought that this was because the naked female body is beautiful whereas the male naked body is droopy and hairy and dangly and is generally more functional than aesthetically pleasing. I'd like to know if there are many women out there who are fed up with not getting the chance to perv at naked men on screen as much as the male viewer gets to perv at naked women, or if, as has often been reported, they also find the male naked body unappealing to look at.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Bloke here but tbh I don't really believe in censorship of movies so if a director feels the need to show the naked male form in order to tell his/her story that's fine by me. As long as anything illegal is only being immitated (e.g. rape etc) I don't see the problem with showing anything in a movie.

    Of course, you're right, the female body is a far more aesthetically pleasing thing than the male; most gay guys even agree with this (perhaps why they make such good fashion designers, they can look upon the female form as a beautiful thing without being distracted by sexual thoughts?).

    And the loony complaining obviously doesn't watch a lot of movies: Ewan McGregor is famous for getting his kit off in films and video stores used to report a huge incidence in damaged copies of Lethal Weapon 2 from women freeze-framing the scene where Mel Gibson flashes his arse...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    Sleepy wrote:
    Bloke here but tbh I don't really believe in censorship of movies so if a director feels the need to show the naked male form in order to tell his/her story that's fine by me. As long as anything illegal is only being immitated (e.g. rape etc) I don't see the problem with showing anything in a movie.


    I would advise you never ever ever watch the movie Irriversible. Ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    I once glimpsed a naked male body in a mirror once when I was stepping out of the shower.

    It's not an experience I'd care to repeat.
    joejoem wrote:
    I would advise you never ever ever watch the movie Irriversible. Ever.
    Don't think Monica Beluci was actually raped for the purposes of the movie making process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    In films you never see male full frontal, it's always from behind. Quick ass flash etc. Maybe arty European films will show the works.

    In women you get full frontal as well as behind, even in American films. T&A in most and the full monty in some (Eyes wide shut etc)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    Don't think Monica Beluci was actually raped for the purposes of the movie making process.


    Watching it, its hard to know. So real.


    And the scenes in the gay club "la rectum", now that is an example of where the male body is wrank.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭casanova_kid


    I often make videos of myself naked. The ladies love it, as do the men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Heyes


    I appear to have a problem with the male naked body....................................





    Its way too likeable ;):p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭casanova_kid


    Heyes wrote:
    I appear to have a problem with the male naked body....................................





    Its way too likeable ;):p
    If you want the video, just ask. No need for the beating around the bush.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    biko wrote:
    In films you never see male full frontal, it's always from behind. Quick ass flash etc. Maybe arty European films will show the works.

    It's not true to say you *never* see male full frontal anywhere outside of European art films. As someone has stated Ewan McGregor has done full nude scenes. Also I seem to remember there being very brief full male nudity in A Room With A View. That's a Merchant Ivory production. Still only got a PG though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    biko wrote:
    In films you never see male full frontal,
    I can think of more films that show a penis than full lips.
    My mates wife was moaning once about this. I was making the point that you never really see female genitals in films. Breasts are certainly not genitals, and you see plenty of topless men in films. Only some cultures/people would think exposure of breasts would be pornographic.

    If women are full frontal they are usually showing no gentials, just pubic hair, they may as well be wearing furry knickers, you see nothing at all. It is the same as a guy holding his cock between his legs (which is in a few films). I remember the whole hype about sharon stone in basic instinct, I really was expecting to see fully shaven box with a big rock hard clitoris sticking out and juice dripping off a big pair of lips, but you saw NOTHING.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Senator Ashcroft, how nice of you to join us.....

    Seriously, I think the key word is gratuitous. If it's there for a reason, than asbolutely it should. Male or female, doesn't mater. If it's just stuck there for the sheer hell of it or to make money then no, it shouldn't. Prime example, Halle Berry tits in Swordfish - was that REALLY work 600K...?

    If God had wanted us to be naturists, we'd have been born that way.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    I love the cock.....

    However,I agree that naked women are more pleasing to the eye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭casanova_kid


    I believe that this filth in the cinemas is as a result of the absolute disintegration of moral values in our society. These movie directors will rot in hell. The day a man whips out his long one on screen is the day the bloody Communists have finally won. Would Leni Riefenstahl have requested some of the finest actors and actress of the golden age of cinema and the golden age of Germany to expose their genitals? I think you all know the answer to that. Back in that era, people had proper morals, but then Castro and that damn Trevor Sargeant fella came along and all was lost for society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Heyes


    If you want the video, just ask. No need for the beating around the bush.


    I was hoping you would nt bring that up... i was put in a situation where i was made look at said video...well... em.... eh.... no comment....








    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I've always thought that this was because the naked female body is beautiful whereas the male naked body is droopy and hairy and dangly and is generally more functional than aesthetically pleasing.

    Ha! http://www.deviantart.com/view/23939971/


    The world is ruled by heterosexual men, therefore most movies show pretty naked women. Surely thats obviously the reason?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    Zillah wrote:
    Wow! I haven't been that turned on by a stranger in a photo in...ever!

    Mmmm.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Heyes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Not really. Women's bodies are inherently more beautiful. But that said, if women are naked in a film the men should be as well.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Malia Enough Squash


    LadyJ wrote:
    Wow! I haven't been that turned on by a stranger in a photo in...ever!

    Mmmm.....

    Ditto.

    Mm, yummy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Sometimes the Film Directors manage to amalgamate the beauty of both the male and female form in the one scene. Pighead loved The Crying Game. Cracking film. Cracking body.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    Cillian Murphy is completely naked at the start of 28 Days Later.

    Someday I'm going to riddle him out of it......mmm.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Pighead wrote:
    Sometimes the Film Directors manage to amalgamate the beauty of both the male and female form in the one scene. Pighead loved The Crying Game. Cracking film. Cracking body.

    Oh...dear...god... Pighead you're a weird guy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,084 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    've always thought that this was because the naked female body is beautiful whereas the male naked body is droopy and hairy and dangly and is generally more functional than aesthetically pleasing.

    And of course while we're at it, let's get rid of fat and old chicks from our screens. Welcome to the logic behind American TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Pighead wrote:
    Sometimes the Film Directors manage to amalgamate the beauty of both the male and female form in the one scene. Pighead loved The Crying Game. Cracking film. Cracking body.

    I thought so too.... From an aesthetic point of view, of course...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Wouldn't it be nice to have a Purple Rose of Cairo moment? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    More nudity for all sexes in all films imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Zillah wrote:
    Ha! http://www.deviantart.com/view/23939971/


    The world is ruled by heterosexual men, therefore most movies show pretty naked women. Surely thats obviously the reason?

    Ohhh!!!!

    Well, if we're showing off our work....!

    http://community.webshots.com/photo/355011910/1355039221068102298nLtnIz

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Oh no, I have to be clear, thats not my photo. I'd love if it was but its just something I came across a while ago.


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    Zillah wrote:
    Ha! http://www.deviantart.com/view/23939971/


    The world is ruled by heterosexual men, therefore most movies show pretty naked women. Surely thats obviously the reason?

    Holy f**king christ:eek: :eek: :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    I find the naked male form very aesthetically pleasing - it does bug me that the female form is shown more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Alana


    Zillah wrote:
    Ha! http://www.deviantart.com/view/23939971/


    The world is ruled by heterosexual men, therefore most movies show pretty naked women. Surely thats obviously the reason?

    White-ser I'm suprised at that kind of carry on :P

    Yum b.t.w.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Wow.What a surprise that a fair few men said that women's bodys are more aesthetically appealing...I never would have guessed...



    Yes, yes, us women, we just shut our eyes and think of our country when men get undressed. Its awful, awful such a cruel punishment to put a naken man in front of me.No! NOoooooooooooooooooooo

    Also I think men dont want more naked men in the media because they will then be subjected more pressure to look good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Photi


    Jais, sounds like someone is gunning to write the Penis Monologues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Hey, folks!

    The typical nude woman seen on film is as far from the average woman as Áine Chambers is from that aoul wannabe Jessica Alba.

    So, twould be the same with men noode on film.

    Thinking caps only €o.l7 at leedle all this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭impr0v


    Áine Chambers > Jessica Alba > naked man.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Photi


    Does the BBC stil go by the 'Mull Of Kintyre' ruling?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    Putting a male naked body on a TV is disgusting tbh

    But I have no problem with female bodies :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    I bought Fast Times at Ridgemont High cos I heard that it was a cult classic. I wasn't that impressed.
    Really? It has Jennifer Jason Leigh starkers and Phoebe Cates topless! What more could you possibly want from a movie?

    Anyway, yeah, nude dudes? Sure why not! But only if all nudity is done for sound artistic reasons and in the best possible taste (ala Anal Entry volumes #1 thru #500 for example.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    The black and white calendar of the world cup winning French ruby team.........
    /drool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,084 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Mmm.

    I definitely give a thumbs up for more male nudity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Alana wrote:
    White-ser I'm suprised at that kind of carry on :P

    Yum b.t.w.

    Shock horror etc :) Yum indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 PeterGriffen


    Pigman II wrote:
    Really? It has Jennifer Jason Leigh starkers and Phoebe Cates topless! What more could you possibly want from a movie?

    Anyway, yeah, nude dudes? Sure why not! But only if all nudity is done for sound artistic reasons and in the best possible taste (ala Anal Entry volumes #1 thru #500 for example.)


    Well Phoebe Cates completely naked would have been a considerable improvement. Jennifer Jason Leigh is one of those actresses whom you can depend on to regularly get her kit off in her movies. I listened to the commentary on the naked sections of "Fast Times", and the director said she shot a full frontal male scene, but she was told to cut the scene because the dick is an "aggressive" appendage.

    BTW, the Anal Entry series went rapidly downhill after volume 276. After that, there was very little character development and the dialogue got increasingly cheesy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭tony 2 tone


    The worst in male nudity has to be Harvey Keitel in The Bad Lieutenant. Not even just a flash, he's staggering around for a while....and he's crying too. I wasnt too happy either when I seen it. :eek:


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