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  • 29-03-2006 12:07pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I am on a diet at the moment and I was in Boots recently and I saw a product that interests me- its a shake you take before bedtime and it helps you lose weight while you sleep.I have no idea what its called.

    My sister advised me not to get it because "thay are all gimmicks" but surley they cant sell it if it doesnt work?

    Anyone else tried this shake and did it work ?Sorry i cant remember the name of it!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Can't imagine it being much use, a Protein shake or similar will help you lose weight, but won't be the primary factor; i.e they are called supplements for a reason.

    If you have your diet and exercise in check, the weight will fall off.

    It may be worth posting up your goals, your current diet and exercise as well. There's a wealth of knowledge on this board, which you should take advantage of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    ice_woman wrote:
    "thay are all gimmicks" but surley they cant sell it if it doesnt work?
    they are, gimmicks that is, cashing in on the lazy-assed notion that something you buy in a chemist will subsitute healthy eating and exercise. if this worked obesity would no longer be the huge international problem it is in the over-fed, over-indulgent society we have these days

    wow, aren't I in top form this morning? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭ice_woman


    g'em wrote:
    they are, gimmicks that is, cashing in on the lazy-assed notion that something you buy in a chemist will subsitute healthy eating and exercise. if this worked obesity would no longer be the huge international problem it is in the over-fed, over-indulgent society we have these days

    wow, aren't I in top form this morning? ;)

    excuse me i never said i wanted it to substitute healthy eating and exercise- i am doing both of them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    ice_woman wrote:
    excuse me i never said i wanted it to substitute healthy eating and exercise- i am doing both of them
    well if you're still eating the diet you posted previously I beg to differ. don't waste your cash on this overnight stuff, buy lots of good food to fill your belly instead, as we said before, you actually need to eat more than you already are, but just eat the right things.

    besides which, I meant in general about the whole substitution of common sense for quick fixes, not a personal attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    The shake contains collegen and as such it is supposed to increase your metabolism while you sleep. The theory behind it is that the body will spend calories while you sleep as it digests the collegen.

    If you want my advice then use your waking hours to burn more calories through excercise and use your sleep for just that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭ice_woman


    well i just read a thread where a womans eating cereal for breakfast- soup 4 lunch and meat and veg for dinner- with no snacks or nothing- and no one said to her she wasnt eating enough and shes eating the same amount as me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Dragan wrote:
    The shake contains collegen and as such it is supposed to increase your metabolism while you sleep. The theory behind it is that the body will spend calories while you sleep as it digests the collegen.

    ta my lovely, really hadn't the energy to search for it :o . for similar effects drink lots of green tea. also has metabolism boosting properties, very little or no caffeine and counts towards your daily water intake. a diet high in protein does the same, as does regular exercise and resistance training.
    ice woman wrote:
    well i just read a thread where a womans eating cereal for breakfast- soup 4 lunch and meat and veg for dinner- with no snacks or nothing- and no one said to her she wasnt eating enough and shes eating the same amount as me.
    if we told her walk down Grafton St buck naked would you do it? ;)

    we gave you lots of advice on your thread. heed it or ignore, tis up to you. heaven forbid we might actually know what we're talking about... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭ice_woman


    dont be rude ok.

    I just wanted to know why wasnt she told it shes basically eating the same- though i think she said shes doing weight training- and it was a woman not a man

    Im not trying to be ignorant of your advice- thanks for it! But i think im eating plenty- i was brought up thinking 1200 calories a day were more than enough for a woman so thats what i go by


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭ice_woman


    ya i heard green tea was good !! but isint that drank black(eewwww):D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    ice_woman wrote:
    Im not trying to be ignorant of your advice- thanks for it! But i think im eating plenty- i was brought up thinking 1200 calories a day were more than enough for a woman so thats what i go by
    not trying to be rude, apologies if I came across that way. But you said on the other post you're 5ft and 16stone yeah? well 1200 calories is in no way shape or form enough to keep you going every day. Lots of our traditional ideas wbout healthy eating are slowly being replaced by more suitable methods as we learn more about how the body works, the mechanics of our metabolism and so forth- I was always told to eat everything on my plate, but that's not great way to eat either. The whole 3 meal a day thing is now getting pushed aside in favour of constantly supplying your body with food in small portions 5-6 times a day. Makes more sense- you're body is like a furnace that needs fuel to keep it going all the time. If you only eat 1200 cals a day your body will go into starvation mode and ill cling onto what little food its getting and store it.

    Like I said, its up to you how you go about it, but if you read around this forum you'll see the fittest, healthiest people eat regulalry and eat right. Proff is in the proverbial pudding after all.

    And yes you drink green tea black. Or black tea black for that matter. but there's lots of flavoured varieties and it just takes some getting used to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    ice_woman wrote:
    I just wanted to know why wasnt she told it shes basically eating the same- though i think she said shes doing weight training- and it was a woman not a man

    Because quite simply there are only a small few up us here who are regulars and are willing to give advice and we simply can't deal with every thread that comes up! Some make it through the net but normally get a reply is people are willing to repost.

    To be honest, as helpful as i like to be sometimes i just ignore posts because i honestly cannot bring myself to answer the same question over and over again!!!! :D

    People all want to post but no one wants to use the search function or google i fear!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭ice_woman


    yes- because i wanted the reviews of people who have used it- wont find anyone on google who have used it now will i


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    ice_woman wrote:
    yes- because i wanted the reviews of people who have used it- wont find anyone on google who have used it now will i

    You need to relax just a tad, in the space of one post you have taken two general comments ( one from G'em, one from me, personnally ). I was replying to your question about why nobody had told the other women to improve her diet, i was not taking shots at you. If i wanted to pointed something out to you i simply would have, no one on this forum would mistake me for being softly spoken.

    So all in all i will simply apologise that my post could have been taken the wrong way.

    And actually, five minutes on google and i found several such products and a host of customer reviews. Can't be sure if they are the ones you saw though.

    So in short yes, you will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭t-ha


    ice_woman wrote:
    yes- because i wanted the reviews of people who have used it- wont find anyone on google who have used it now will i
    He was giving reasons as to why someone else may not have gotten the same dietary advice as you, not attacking why you started this thread.

    I have no idea about the specific product you're talking about but the unfortunate truth is that the majority of these products do not deliver what they promise. If it is truly effective then it probably wouldn't be long before it showed up on my radar somewhere (as in people all over the internet would start discussing it excitedly). Even the most powerful fat-burners available won't do what most of these products claim. If you can tell me it's name or what's in it I could give a more specific answer but, until then, I certaintly wouldn't pin my hopes on it.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    Ice Woman, if you want to burn calories by doing nothing then drink lots of chilled water through out the day. It will do at least one of the following:

    1) Burn a few calories as your body heats the water up
    2) Calm you down a bit :eek: ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    most of these night supplements say "eat on an empty stomach", doing this with smarties would help, to have an empty stomach at night most will have to stop eating around 7-8pm and so will be taking in less calories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭t-ha


    rubadub wrote:
    most of these night supplements say "eat on an empty stomach", doing this with smarties would help, to have an empty stomach at night most will have to stop eating around 7-8pm and so will be taking in less calories.
    Does it matter which colour smarties? I'll bet it's the blue ones isn't it? They must be answer! I'm going to take 10 of them a night even though it only says to take 1 so I'll get results quicker!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    As far as I'm aware Smarties work like this

    blue for thermogenic/bodyfat lose effect.
    red for mass and better protein synthesis.
    green for increased test and GH levels.
    orange for "the pump" and better vascularity ( take before your work outs )
    yellow for that diuretic effect, shed that pesky subcu water.
    purple are the placebo's , if you take you got anything from these your an idiot! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Dragan wrote:
    purple are the placebo's , if you take you got anything from these your an idiot!
    dang, so that's where I've been going wrong all these years... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    For better effect you need to crush them up and inject them intra muscularly as they're slightly broken down in the stomach.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    For better effect you need to crush them up and inject them intra muscularly as they're slightly broken down in the stomach.

    Maybe we can use esther technology to help them bipass those nasty digestive acids????

    Hell on the liver though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    Yeah what would you need to cycle off though i'm think a course of ferreo rocher followed by some fruit gums?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    personally I've found jelly babies to be particularly effective, especially if you bite the legs off first


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    ice_woman wrote:
    Hi,

    I am on a diet at the moment and I was in Boots recently and I saw a product that interests me- its a shake you take before bedtime and it helps you lose weight while you sleep.I have no idea what its called.

    My sister advised me not to get it because "thay are all gimmicks" but surley they cant sell it if it doesnt work?

    Anyone else tried this shake and did it work ?Sorry i cant remember the name of it!!!



    Greatest addition to the fitness forum in a long time. This post about magic beans or something and the other one about sharting.

    Dont worry, everyone is just having a laugh but trying to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Seraphina


    ice_woman wrote:
    Im not trying to be ignorant of your advice- thanks for it! But i think im eating plenty- i was brought up thinking 1200 calories a day were more than enough for a woman so thats what i go by

    honestly, no offence, but at 5 ft and 16 stone, do you really trust the advice about food that you were brought up on?

    clearly something is awry.

    listen to these people. they know what they're talking about. dont take offence, and dont bother with gimmicks. they're a waste of time and money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭t-ha


    Dragan wrote:
    Maybe we can use esther technology to help them bipass those nasty digestive acids????

    Hell on the liver though.
    Ah to hell with esther! Keep the molecular weight down and go transdermal I say...


    ...yeah, basically mush smarties into your arm :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 Mo-Mo


    ice-women it's worth pointing out that the advice on these boards by the people posting on this thread is top class. I've been a regular reader for about 3 months and have made plenty of changes to my diet The result of which has been a slow steady loss of weight, more energy and less obsession about what I should or shouldn't eat because I have more of an understanding now.

    the best bit of advice I read this week was that bulgar, tuna and peas is a tasty tasty dinner. Thank you g'em. I suspect it's going to become a regular on my menu as it's so quick and easy to make, and oh so tasty.

    It must be remembered that the posters post at their leisure, you're not paying them and so many people post the same q's as each other without doing a quick search to see if the issue has been addressed before. There's no need to take personal offence. You should heed their advice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Mo-Mo wrote:
    I've been a regular reader for about 3 months and have made plenty of changes to my diet The result of which has been a slow steady loss of weight, more energy and less obsession about what I should or shouldn't eat because I have more of an understanding now.
    I'm sooo delighted to hear that!! I love hearing about people who take charge of their diet and see the benefits, and I'm only too glad we could be of help. Yay!!!!
    Mo-Mo wrote:
    the best bit of advice I read this week was that bulgar, tuna and peas is a tasty tasty dinner. Thank you g'em.
    isn't it the business?!??! And its great with any veg tbh- sometimes I stir-fry some mixed peppers (there's a great oil spray you can get to minimise the oil usage) and mushrooms and have them too. Honestly, bulgar wheat was my find of the year- so cheap, so easy to prepare, but so tasty!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 Mo-Mo


    I'll be honest, I could be becoming obsessed with it. I won't be home all weekend and I'm sorry as I won't be able to make it until next week. How sad is that.

    Just as a matter of interest. I cook up about 50g of it, it doesn't look like much but I find it quite filling. What would you recommend as a portion size? I'm looking forward to making some Tabulah next week.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    going from
    Mo-Mo wrote:
    less obsession about what I should or shouldn't eat
    to..
    Mo-Mo wrote:
    I'll be honest, I could be becoming obsessed with it.
    in one short post :D

    I use 1/3 cup per portion, so that's probably about 40g or so. A half cup (approx. 50-60g) contains about 120 calories and less than half a gram of fat, but its really high in fibre., so if that's what you're comfortable eating that's a fine portion size. Wonderfood, literally!!!


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