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Can I show a man his Heart before he dies?

  • 28-03-2006 11:37pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭


    Just got wondering, Ive heard it said by others that this would be a great way to off ones enemies. I have a few people I would love to experiment on Medically, but I gots to know : Is it actualy possible?
    Can I punch through a mans rib cage, remove his heart, severing all viens and arteries, and then show it to him?
    Would he still have enough in the tank to realise I have one of his vital organs in my hand(probably still spewing blood) and that Im waving it about in his face? What would he say?

    Any experiences you want to share?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,413 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    DaBreno wrote:
    Any experiences you want to share?
    You think many Boards users (apart from those users who appeared in "Mortal Kombat" of course) have had any first-hand experiences with it? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭DRakE


    I'm interested in donating someone elses body to find out this question..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 261 ✭✭Reaver772


    Simple answer: yes it can be done, just be sure to crack open the rib cage wide enough and slice all the way through the Pericardium, all than remains is to clamp off the arteries and sever them quickly with a scapel. Remember to look into their eyes and smile before you begin to feast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Yes it would be possible. Even the head stays alive for a bit after it has been severed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 Furry Burger


    of course its possible...it wouldnt be in KUng Fu movies if it wasnt possible..try it out on a family member first if it goes wrong their more likely to be undrestanding about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭blu_sonic


    but getting through the rid cage without crushing the heart through blunt force trauma wouldn't be possible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭danbhala


    Even the head stays alive for a bit after it has been severed.

    really? how long is a bit? back in ye olde decapitation days was it possible to still be alive (headwise) while landing in the head basket?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I guess you could go under the ribs and grab the heart. Avoid any painful cracking of knuckles resulting from hitting the ribs. Though in pulling the heart hard enough to get it out would probably result in you crushing it, causing your victim to die before they saw the result.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Subzero here, using my friend Ruus boards.ie account. Its very satisfying, ripping a mans heart and showing it to him, you should try it sometime on a friend ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    This guy was a dab hand at it.


    mola.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭blu_sonic


    why not just kick the dude in the nuts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    "This is not a forum staffed by medical professionals. Please consult your GP and try it on him."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Yes it would be possible. Even the head stays alive for a bit after it has been severed.
    Aye. 15 seconds, seemingly, according to the mad French (one of them did an experiment).

    Also, you gotta remember that when a viking did a "blood eagle" on someone, they were still alive, so I'd say it could be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,590 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    DaBreno wrote:
    Can I show a man his Heart before he dies?

    You can't, but countless others can.

    Sound of one hand clapping, tbh.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭Cosine


    Aparently when they were torturing people in WWII one of the countries found a way of finishing people that involves slicing a persons stomach so all the inards fall on to a table infront of the poor guy and he is supposed to remain consious enough to scream before he dies. If thats true then I doubt there'd be a problem with ripping his heart out :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    There are rumours that Beruthiel has actually got her hands on people she site-banned for PI offences...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    its called a heart transplant...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭sportswear


    when i was in school we learned that the incas had this guy, who was their executioner, he was deadly at it and he was so practiced and so strong that he used to be able to punch the ribcage cracking it open and plunge his other hand in pulling the heart out still beating and show it to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭DaBreno


    sportswear wrote:
    when i was in school we learned that the incas had this guy, who was their executioner, he was deadly at it and he was so practiced and so strong that he used to be able to punch the ribcage cracking it open and plunge his other hand in pulling the heart out still beating and show it to them.

    Coooool! I think I like the Incas style. Thats whats wrong with this country, not enough Inca spirit and know-how.

    Speaking of mad sh1t, Ive read that some of the mad yokes in Sierra Leone can make an incision in your skin in the Hollow below your adams apple, insert one finger at a time until they get BOTH hands under your skin and can proceed to push the skin of your head like it were a Hoody top. The article also mentioned that, contrary to what you might think, you remain concious whille this happens. Nasty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,481 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    [emo]My ex girlfriend ripped out my heart and showed it to me[/emo]


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    DaBreno wrote:
    Speaking of mad sh1t, Ive read that some of the mad yokes in Sierra Leone can make an incision in your skin in the Hollow below your adams apple, insert one finger at a time until they get BOTH hands under your skin and can proceed to push the skin of your head like it were a Hoody top. The article also mentioned that, contrary to what you might think, you remain concious whille this happens. Nasty.

    Now that. Is. Awesome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    Now that. Is. Awesome!
    Probably hurt a bit though. And your hands would get all messy. Just imagine trying to get that gunk out from under your fingernails.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    danbhala wrote:
    really? how long is a bit? back in ye olde decapitation days was it possible to still be alive (headwise) while landing in the head basket?

    i don't thikn anyone's ever asked them. or if they did i don't think they answered.

    stewie in family guy had an idea. i can't remember why but someone was getting their head chopped off and he told them to keep blinking for as long as they could :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Well it was in New Scientist magazine one week.

    They said there was doctor who had worked out a system of blinks with a condemned prisioner before he was to have his head cut off. He showed cognitive activity for a good 15-30 seconds before becoming lifeless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Fraggle Rocks


    i don't thikn anyone's ever asked them. or if they did i don't think they answered.

    stewie in family guy had an idea. i can't remember why but someone was getting their head chopped off and he told them to keep blinking for as long as they could :D


    Yeah sometimes people's heads were cut off and you could see their lips moving afterwards as they tried to say something. We did it all in anatomy :D
    And the bit where Hannibal Lecter is eating your man's brain is true too. If you cut out a certain part of someones brain they'll start babbling. My lecturer was great fun.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭Splinter


    JohnK wrote:
    Probably hurt a bit though. And your hands would get all messy. Just imagine trying to get that gunk out from under your fingernails.


    LMAO priceless

    but the whole not bursting the heart after u go through the ribs thing would b hard..plus u gotta b sure the guy dont pass out from the pain first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Victor McDade


    DaBreno wrote:
    Speaking of mad sh1t, Ive read that some of the mad yokes in Sierra Leone can make an incision in your skin in the Hollow below your adams apple, insert one finger at a time until they get BOTH hands under your skin and can proceed to push the skin of your head like it were a Hoody top. The article also mentioned that, contrary to what you might think, you remain concious whille this happens. Nasty.

    Its no wonder then, that half the SL commonwealth team did a runner last week during the games in australia!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,590 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Its no wonder then, that half the SL commonwealth team did a runner last week during the games in australia!

    You mean they kept on running? :p

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭neon_glows


    guys this is ****ed up, OP should be arrested for even asking this sort of Question, he didnt even justify his reasons for asking, other than he would like to do it etc, surely on the internet and everyone being anonymous and such this sort of **** shouldnt be allowed, whose to know that this guy is for real or not, maybe right now he's actually trying it out on some poor individual, god like iv been flamed for a lot less like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭blu_sonic


    Its all pie in the sky, its not possible maybe he saw it on a movie (indiana jones) or on Mortal Kombat (Kanos finisher) he merly asked if it was possible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    some folks watchin too much tv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    As long as it happens between consenting adults I see no problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭Diarmiud


    DaBreno wrote:
    Just got wondering, Ive heard it said by others that this would be a great way to off ones enemies. I have a few people I would love to experiment on Medically, but I gots to know : Is it actualy possible?
    Can I punch through a mans rib cage, remove his heart, severing all viens and arteries, and then show it to him?
    Would he still have enough in the tank to realise I have one of his vital organs in my hand(probably still spewing blood) and that Im waving it about in his face? What would he say?

    Any experiences you want to share?


    Interesting question. When Ive passed on, Ill tell you. Rattle my chains...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I think most ordinary people would go into shock before you got to wave their heart in front of their face. Wasn't there something similar to this in last of the mohicans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    neon_glows wrote:
    guys this is ****ed up, OP should be arrested for even asking this sort of Question, he didnt even justify his reasons for asking, other than he would like to do it etc, surely on the internet and everyone being anonymous and such this sort of **** shouldnt be allowed, whose to know that this guy is for real or not, maybe right now he's actually trying it out on some poor individual, god like iv been flamed for a lot less like.
    You should be arrested for using bad language on the internet!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭Banphrionsa


    It's been claimed that an ancient Aztec preistess could surgically remove your heart while you were still conscious and display it before you, pumping, seconds before you passed out. I guess you could call her a real heart breaker?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It's extremely unlikely on many counts. In theory it should be wholly possible to remove the heart and show it to someone, but viciously ripping it out, I'm afraid not.

    First problem - rib cage. Bones are a lot harder to break than you'd think, and especially with your hands. The heart is particularly protected by a large breastplate, which would be much like punching a piece of slightly flexible, thick plastic with your fist. Try it out on the seat of one of those cheapo plastic gym hall chairs and see how far you get. Since the concussive force is also inwards, you also run the problem that upon breaking, the cage will press against the heart and lungs, and splinters will puncture vital organs. This decreases your chances of keeping the "patient" conscious.

    Second problem - the heart. Contrary to popular belief, the heart isn't held in with tissue paper. There are four significant pieces of plumbing keeping it attached to the rest of your pulmonary system (not to mention flesh, fat and muscle). These are almost as thick as hose pipe, and made out of flesh. See how much force you can apply before your nose rips off, and then you'll know what to expect. The pacemaker is also a small piece of nervous tissue which causes your heart to beat. When this is damaged or broken, the heart will stop beating, instantly. So if you wish him to see it still beating, bring along a 9V battery and some crocodile clips, and be quite adept with them.

    Third problem - pain. Your body doesn't like to be damaged. Pain is way of your brain telling you, "Whoa, don't do that, it's damaging you". Unfortunately, the brain has no limiter here. Adrenaline usually performs most of the painkilling in emergency situations, but sometimes - like when someone is tearing your heart out - adrenaline just can't cut it, but the body will continue with it anyway. It's quite likely that the immense pain someone woudl suffer at your hands would cause their heart to beat furiously, and ultimately end in heart attack. Heart attack has a funny way of making people fall unconscious.
    If your patient doesn't happen to have a heart attack, the brain is likely to switch itself off - knock the person unconscious - to prevent any permanent damage to itself, or other parts of the nervous system.

    Best of luck.


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