Honours Maths.

Léan

I'm begining to worry.
We are no where near finished the course. (We didn't even have triginomatry finished for the mocks).
Anyway, was wondering, is this the case with most schools or what?
It seems like there's loads to do. I know it's an "intense" course, but all the same...

f

yes were the same as, were no where near finished, loadsa time though

PurpleFistMixer

We didn't have two entire questions on paper 2 done for the mocks, so we just didn't count them in the marking. It did end up a bit tight though. Maybe just ask your teacher or say you're worried about it, etc.?

andyman

We are the same. I did my own study for the mocks and ended up being lost on some of it. Paper II mostly. Still managed to get 48% on it. 58% overall

Léan

Hmmm, can't really say it to the teacher. She's rather er, unapproachable.
We didn't get didvided up into honours and pass till the end of second year so we only started the higher level maths book then. So much to do..

rip2roar

We have Question 1-2-3 and 6 done for the mocks.We will and you will have it done by easter.Dont worry about it

Apple Gal

We had all the major chapters done for the mocks it was only the easy ones left like area and them. Now we are finished the whole course and we are doing revision. We started half way during 2nd year so we had most of it done!

OLP

We got split into Honours/Pass at the start of second year too. For the mocks we did the whole exam except for 2 and 3 on Paper 2. We had everything except those 2 questions done. That is to say, we're doing Geometry now, that is what queastions 2 and 3 on P.2 are on.

rip2roar

We had a terrible teacher last year and got him kicked out of the class for poor student control.So we got a new teacher this year and asked her to start the course again.

andyman

Good luck to you because you'll be lucky to get the course finished

Piste

We should have the course finished by the end of this week and it's revision from then on. I've started doing a few hours of maths a night and I'm starting to really get the harder stuff like trig. I need to do so much work on surds and theorems too >.<

rip2roar

andyman wrote:

Good luck to you because you'll be lucky to get the course finished

We are getting there.
Two chapters left

Jello

Yeah we're just coming to the end of Triginometry right now...so it'll be a bit of a rush on Geometry I suppose...

Piste

Oh Ye Gods Geometry and Theorems are nasty. Our Teacher's revising them closer to June so they'll be more fresh in our memory. Luckily we finished the course today so it's exam question for the next few months.

rip2roar

We do them weekly

Killaqueen!!!

I find honours maths kind of hard but I got 81% which is good.

I can't complain because I've probably got the best Junior Cert Maths teacher in the country!

We had the course finished at the end of second year (with around a week for revision) and then in third year we did more revision. About a month and a half ago we started a strict revision scheme. In each class, half of it would be revising a subject (for example, factorising) - she'd do a few examples on the board and then give us a revision sheet. For the last 15-20mins we'd do exam questions and then every night we have 2 past exam questions.

It's tough but it gets the job done!

I HATE paper 2..except i don't mind the statistics but I'm much better on paper 1

f

PurpleFistMixer wrote:

We didn't have two entire questions on paper 2 done for the mocks, so we just didn't count them in the marking. It did end up a bit tight though. Maybe just ask your teacher or say you're worried about it, etc.?

same with us, i found that even if you draw the triangle or whatever you get some marks. got 70 without havin question 3and 4 done and only half of 5

disney

we arent finished our course yet either, doin thise indices at the mo....
We are doin all that therom stuff nearer the time so we wont hav 2 revise it!!!!1:D

JSK 252

We finished our maths course in february this year.Just two more theroems to do.

JSK 252

Did you all know this but the higher level junior certificate mathematics is the hardest exam for our age group in the world

zagaboy

yah sure.. i got 84% in the mocks, in find english much harder to do well in

JSK 252

zagaboy wrote:

yah sure.. i got 84% in the mocks, in find english much harder to do well in

Its fact and it has been proven.

PurpleFistMixer

Um... how exactly does one quantify "hard"? Some people would find maths a lot easier than other subjects.
I mean, I'd be interested to see where you got that from, 'cause I honestly don't think that Ireland has all that high a standard of maths.

yourpetzombie

PurpleFistMixer wrote:

Um... how exactly does one quantify "hard"? Some people would find maths a lot easier than other subjects.
I mean, I'd be interested to see where you got that from, 'cause I honestly don't think that Ireland has all that high a standard of maths.

It's true. A higher percentage of students attain an A (at all levels) in Maths, than in English.

From examinations.ie, 2005 figures for percentage of student who got an A.
Maths
Higher - 14.5%
Ordinary - 11.8%
Foundation - 18%

English
Higher - 10.2%
Ordinary - 7.2%
Foundation - 9.9%

But, the pass rate (at Higher level) is almost equal, but yeah, English is harder to do very well in.

But then again, a far greater number of maths students don't do Higher Level. More actually do Pass.
So...yeah.

JSK 252

PurpleFistMixer wrote:

Um... how exactly does one quantify "hard"? Some people would find maths a lot easier than other subjects.
I mean, I'd be interested to see where you got that from, 'cause I honestly don't think that Ireland has all that high a standard of maths.

High standard of maths? You only have to look as far as Boole the famous mathematican himself to prove that Ireland has a high standard of maths. Sure a building in UCC has been named after him. Its fact that ireland has a very high standard of maths. Just for curiosity if you dont think ireland has a high standard of maths what country does?

PurpleFistMixer

One person can't be accounted for the talents of an entire country... I mean, I'm sure we've got an alright standard, but, Ireland is hardly known for its maths abilities... I kind of got this impression from Ireland's tendency to get NOWHERE in the international maths olympiad, but, I suppose that isn't the ultimate measure of mathematical ability or anything.

Don't know what country would be renowned for its maths. I'd say Japan and Korea, etc., but those countries seem to be into education in general.

zagaboy

losers, get a real topic to argue about. maths is piss easy and requires no work.

PurpleFistMixer

This is a maths thread. Therefore the only topics to be argued in it, will be maths related. Not too complicated. Want a "real" topic to argue about? Start a new thread.

Fobia

PurpleFistMixer wrote:

This is a maths thread.

No it's not.

It is not the maths you are looking for...

zagaboy

yeh go look for mates sumwhere else

PurpleFistMixer

... Uh.. huh. Okay. That's nice.

Fobia, it is always the maths that I am looking for. Maths and only maths.
I mean, gtfo the thread newb!

JSK 252

zagaboy wrote:

yeh go look for mates sumwhere else

Zagaboy where are you from? I do have a life too you know. I play golf, soccer and do karate(black belt). This is a maths forum and maths is what is being discussed if you know what i mean.No offence.

Piste

This is the Junior Cert forum, not a maths forum, the maths forum is here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=380

afaik China have a very good aptitude for maths, there are special Maths-orientated schools and at a young age Chinese Children take an aptitude test to see if they have any maths skillz, if they do they are put into these schools.

JSK 252

Piste wrote:

This is the Junior Cert forum, not a math's forum, the maths forum is here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=380

afaik China have a very good aptitude for maths, there are special Maths-orientated schools and at a young age Chinese Children take an aptitude test to see if they have any maths skillz, if they do they are put into these schools.

This is a honours maths thread in a junior cert forum.

PurpleFistMixer

I think the point of distinction she's trying to make is that it's a thread, not a forum. Just a small point, though.

Victor

One of the problems in some western cultures, not present in the far east, is the concept of eleven and twelve.

1, 2, 3 .... 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 ...

We spend our time counting - One, two, three ..... nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen ...

They count - One, two, three ..... nine, ten, "oneteen", "twoteen", thirteen, fourteen ...

This has a knock on effect of us doing 12x tables instead of 10x tables, which probably puts western students 6-12 months behind their peers.

philologos

by hard do you mean that most maths looks like mandrin chinese to a lot of us

lilmissprincess

Maths is a horrible subject. My teacher is pretty unapproachable, she can be extremely evil, and sets a hell of a lot of homework, then gives out because we don't understand it. However, she was sick for three months around Christmas, and we got a sub who taught us nothing. And so, we are behind in the course. I got a D at Christmas, and I got better with the unapproachable teacher for the mocks, a C.
I find English easier, thats more than likely becasue I am a little bookworm and always have been. I got a B in the mocks.

RefulgentGnomon

This has a knock on effect of us doing 12x tables instead of 10x tables, which probably puts western students 6-12 months behind their peers.

Interesting...
12x tables are useful though, as is knowing multiples of 13, 14 etc, 'specially when you don't want to move to get a calculator. On that point, people are relying far too much on calculators in school nowadays IMO.

PurpleFistMixer

Isn't the point that 13x tables would equal 10x tables + 3x tables?
Therefore, once you know up to ten, you basically know them all...?

I hope this is right, I have a maths exam tomorrow.

Victor

RefulgentGnomon wrote:

Interesting...
12x tables are useful though, as is knowing multiples of 13, 14 etc, 'specially when you don't want to move to get a calculator. On that point, people are relying far too much on calculators in school nowadays IMO.

Oh yes, it is useful, but perhaps also distracting.

Seeing as pounds, shillings & pence and feet & inches (part of the reason we have 12x tables) are a lot less common now, the main block is linguistic.

Ratch

we finished our course in plenty of time for the mocks but i still failed badly!!!!!!!!!!!

Overature

look at the past papers and pick out the questions that you think are easiest and study them, make sure you understand the topics, then its a lot easier.
its good to have to do one more than neccisary in the exam so that you have something to fall back on.

Fad

Overature wrote: »

look at the past papers and pick out the questions that you think are easiest and study them, make sure you understand the topics, then its a lot easier.
its good to have to do one more than neccisary in the exam so that you have something to fall back on.

Where did you even find this thread?

Its from 2006...............

eVeNtInE

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eVeNtInE wrote: »

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I'm so glad that I pay no heed to new features of this website :pac:

(Except "Thanks", that is all)

Seriously though, people need to just give a passing glance to the date of the last post!

eVeNtInE

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eVeNtInE wrote: »

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Pssh, I dont remember that coming in tbh.

My account had a long spell of inactivity.

lynnx

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Barnstorm

We've been done for a while, but our teacher just skims through everything. She says that we can figure the rest our for ourselves, it's really difficult. I go to a grind and I got 50% in the mocks...

rover45

if its any help ..... we finished the course by mid sseptember and have gone over the course over and over .most of me class did pretty good in tha mox too:)