linux

Sam Vimes

i just tried out linux for two days and they were the most stressful two days of my life. i think they pruposely make it as difficult as possible to do anything. every program i tried to install told me it needed three more installed first. and when i tried to install those programs they told me they needed three more installed, most of which just said "not found" or some equally helpful comment when i entered ./configure. it was like some sort of open source pyramid scheme where i had to install 4 billion programs to send an email. and for some reason ubuntu had chosen to disable the make command so that took a few hours to get working. they didn't ask for a root password when i was installing it so that took a bit longer. i managed to get the hang of OSX in a few hours but linux just stressed the **** out of me. bottom line, i'm going to leave linux to the masochists in this world.


ooo, i can't wait to install my next program, i'll click the exe it'll just work. magic

g5hn710m4xpdwy

i think this is in the qrong section but anywho... what distros did you use? a live cd could of been a good choice

mp3guy

What exactly were you trying to do? Linux (Ubuntu for example) doesn't work the same way as windows. What program were you trying to install? Theres a little thing called "Synaptic Package Manager". You rarely go to sites and download programs then try to install them on linux, like windows.

Sam Vimes

i suppose the unix forum would have been a bit better but this is close enough. i saw mention of a live cd in a lot of places when i was trying to fix the root password thing but i don't know what it is. what is it? i was using ubuntu

mp3guy

Fix the root password thing? You mean how you have to log in as root to use certain programs?

Sam Vimes

mp3guy wrote:

What exactly were you trying to do? Linux (Ubuntu for example) doesn't work the same way as windows. What program were you trying to install? Theres a little thing called "Synaptic Package Manager". You rarely go to sites and download programs then try to install them on linux, like windows.

yeah, i found the synaptic package manager. i was trying to install drivers for my tv card. i think if i managed to get that done i might be willing to give it another try. these were the drivers:

http://dl.bytesex.org/releases/video4linux/

it's a mercury tv card (or kobian depending on where you look) and has a philips 7130 chipset. i'm fairly sure its the saa7134 file i need. how do i go about installing it without throwing my monitor out the window

Sam Vimes

mp3guy wrote:

Fix the root password thing? You mean how you have to log in as root to use certain programs?

yeah, it wouldn't let me acces my other hard drive unless i was logged in as root among other things

mp3guy

Commander Vimes wrote:

yeah, i found the synaptic package manager. i was trying to install drivers for my tv card. i think if i managed to get that done i might be willing to give it another try. these were the drivers:

http://dl.bytesex.org/releases/video4linux/

it's a mercury tv card (or kobian depending on where you look) and has a philips chipset. how do i go about installing it without throwing my monitor out the window

Ah yes, TV cards can be a bit difficult to install, can you give me the model number of the card?

mp3guy

Commander Vimes wrote:

yeah, it wouldn't let me acces my other hard drive unless i was logged in as root among other things

Yes, you've to mount separate partitions in a special way, and you can't write to NTFS file systems (Window XP's file system) only read.

Sam Vimes

mp3guy wrote:

Ah yes, TV cards can be a bit difficult to install, can you give me the model number of the card?

i'm fairly sure its the saa7134 package i need. the package says it supports my card but i don't know how to install it.
this is the card:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=A04Bk&menu=0&WorldSearch=Y&doy=25m3&ShowPics=true&Stock=28&MinPrice=0&MaxPrice=9999&SD=true

mp3guy

OK, you need to install the saa7134 driver, then set it to your card. Then a program (like tvtime) to use it with

Sam Vimes

i got tv time. the problem is i have no idea how to install the driver

mp3guy

Commander Vimes wrote:

i got tv time. the problem is i have no idea how to install the driver

Well, while saa7134 support is already in the kernel, the driver isn't, so you have to compile and install it, which isn't that hard once you know a few basics. Download this one:

http://dl.bytesex.org/releases/video4linux/saa7134-0.2.12.tar.gz

Then, put it on the desktop, right click and choose "extract here". Then open a terminal, and type

cd D*/saa7134-0.2.12

Then type

./configure

A load of code will go down, when its finished, it will probably say you're missing something, which you'll have to install with synaptic. Do you use any IM protocols? I could guide you through it that way.

EDIT:

Wait, I'm just after checking it myself, you don't do it that way, I'll check myself now

mp3guy

OK, turns out the saa7134 driver is already installed, so you just need to configure it. Go to a terminal and type

lspci

and copy and paste the output here.

Sam Vimes

root@ubuntu:~# cd D*/saa7134-0.2.12
root@ubuntu:~/Desktop/saa7134-0.2.12# ./configure
bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
root@ubuntu:~/Desktop/saa7134-0.2.12# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400] Chipset Host Bri dge
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Contr oller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Contr oller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Contr oller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT82 3x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]
0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 P ro] (Secondary)
root@ubuntu:~/Desktop/saa7134-0.2.12#

Sam Vimes

actually it might not be on that list because i took it out and reseated it last night. it was on the device managder list last night and now its not. one min while i reseat it again

Sam Vimes

root@ubuntu:~# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400] Chipset Host Bridge
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]
0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] (Secondary)
root@ubuntu:~#

mp3guy

ok, now the output of typing

dmesg

(will be quite alot)

Sam Vimes

root@ubuntu:~# dmesg
00000000
[4294668.668000] CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
[4294668.668000] CPU: L2 Cache: 512K (64 bytes/line)
[4294668.668000] CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000020 00000000 00000000 00000000
[4294668.668000] CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+ stepping 00
[4294668.668000] Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
[4294668.668000] Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
[4294668.668000] Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
[4294668.672000] Checking for popad bug... OK.
[4294668.672000] checking if image is initramfs... it is
[4294669.023000] Freeing initrd memory: 4821k freed
[4294669.031000] ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found!
[4294669.078000] not found!
[4294669.222000] ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
[4294669.222000] ..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1
[4294669.333000] NET: Registered protocol family 16
[4294669.333000] EISA bus registered
[4294669.333000] ACPI: bus type pci registered
[4294669.334000] PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb770, last bus=1
[4294669.334000] PCI: Using configuration type 1
[4294669.334000] mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
[4294669.334000] ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050729
[4294669.340000] ACPI: Interpreter enabled
[4294669.340000] ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
[4294669.340000] ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
[4294669.340000] PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
[4294669.341000] ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] segment is 0
[4294669.341000] ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0
[4294669.343000] Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0
[4294669.364000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
[4294669.365000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
[4294669.366000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 1 *3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
[4294669.366000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 *12 14 15)
[4294669.366000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 1 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
[4294669.367000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
[4294669.367000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
[4294669.367000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK0] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
[4294669.368000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] (IRQs 1 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
[4294669.368000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKA] (IRQs 20) *0, disabled.
[4294669.368000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKB] (IRQs 21) *0, disabled.
[4294669.369000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKC] (IRQs 22) *0, disabled.
[4294669.369000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKD] (IRQs 23) *0, disabled.
[4294669.372000] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
[4294669.372000] pnp: PnP ACPI init
[4294669.375000] pnp: PnP ACPI: found 13 devices
[4294669.375000] PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP
[4294669.376000] PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
[4294669.376000] PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report
[4294669.398000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x4000-0x407f could not be reserved
[4294669.398000] pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x5000-0x500f has been reserved
[4294669.399000] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
[4294669.399000] audit: initialized
[4294669.399000] highmem bounce pool size: 64 pages
[4294669.399000] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
[4294669.399000] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
[4294669.399000] devfs: 2004-01-31 Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
[4294669.399000] devfs: boot_options: 0x0
[4294669.399000] Initializing Cryptographic API
[4294669.399000] isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
[4294669.753000] isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
[4294669.768000] PNP: PS/2 controller doesn't have AUX irq; using default 0xc
[4294669.768000] PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K] at 0x60,0x64 irq 112
[4294669.768000] serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
[4294669.768000] serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
[4294669.768000] Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 54 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
[4294669.768000] ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[4294669.770000] ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[4294669.770000] io scheduler noop registered
[4294669.770000] io scheduler anticipatory registered
[4294669.770000] io scheduler deadline registered
[4294669.770000] io scheduler cfq registered
[4294669.771000] RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 65536K size 1024 blocksize
[4294669.771000] EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0
[4294669.771000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 4
[4294669.771000] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 5
[4294669.771000] EISA: Detected 0 cards.
[4294669.771000] NET: Registered protocol family 2
[4294669.781000] IP: routing cache hash table of 8192 buckets, 64Kbytes
[4294669.781000] TCP established hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
[4294669.784000] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
[4294669.785000] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65536)
[4294669.785000] NET: Registered protocol family 8
[4294669.785000] NET: Registered protocol family 20
[4294669.785000] ACPI wakeup devices:
[4294669.785000] SLPB PCI0 USB0 USB1 USB2 USB6 USB7 USB8 USB9 LAN0 MC97 UAR1 ECP1
[4294669.785000] ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
[4294669.786000] Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed
[4294669.797000] vga16fb: initializing
[4294669.797000] vga16fb: mapped to 0xc00a0000
[4294669.898000] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
[4294669.898000] fb0: VGA16 VGA frame buffer device
[4294669.920000] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
[4294671.005000] Capability LSM initialized
[4294671.015000] NET: Registered protocol family 1
[4294671.027000] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
[4294671.027000] ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
[4294671.027000] ACPI: bus type ide registered
[4294671.031000] VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:11.1
[4294671.032000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKA] BIOS reported IRQ 0, using IRQ 20
[4294671.032000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKA] enabled at IRQ 20
[4294671.032000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.1[A] -> Link [ALKA] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
[4294671.032000] PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:00:11.1, from 255 to 4
[4294671.032000] VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
[4294671.032000] VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
[4294671.032000] VP_IDE: VIA vt8235 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:11.1
[4294671.032000] ide0: BM-DMA at 0xdc00-0xdc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
[4294671.032000] ide1: BM-DMA at 0xdc08-0xdc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA

Sam Vimes

[4294671.032000] Probing IDE interface ide0...
[4294671.416000] hda: Maxtor 6Y120L0, ATA DISK drive
[4294672.028000] ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
[4294672.028000] Probing IDE interface ide1...
[4294672.820000] hdc: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[4294673.534000] hdd: ATAPI CD-ROM 52XMax, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[4294673.585000] ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
[4294673.585000] Probing IDE interface ide2...
[4294674.098000] Probing IDE interface ide3...
[4294674.610000] Probing IDE interface ide4...
[4294675.122000] Probing IDE interface ide5...
[4294675.637000] hda: max request size: 128KiB
[4294675.646000] hda: 240121728 sectors (122942 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(133)
[4294675.646000] hda: cache flushes supported
[4294675.646000] /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4
[4294675.674000] hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
[4294675.674000] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[4294675.677000] hdd: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
[4294675.953000] Attempting manual resume
[4294675.954000] swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature?
[4294675.981000] usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
[4294675.981000] usbcore: registered new driver hub
[4294675.982000] USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2
[4294675.982000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKB] BIOS reported IRQ 0, using IRQ 21
[4294675.982000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKB] enabled at IRQ 21
[4294675.982000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
[4294675.982000] PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:00:10.0, from 11 to 5
[4294675.982000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
[4294676.044000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[4294676.044000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: irq 21, io base 0x0000d000
[4294676.044000] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[4294676.044000] hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[4294676.047000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.1 -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
[4294676.047000] PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:00:10.1, from 3 to 5
[4294676.047000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (#2)
[4294676.109000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
[4294676.109000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: irq 21, io base 0x0000d400
[4294676.109000] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
[4294676.109000] hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[4294676.112000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.2[C] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
[4294676.112000] PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:00:10.2, from 12 to 5
[4294676.112000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (#3)
[4294676.174000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
[4294676.174000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: irq 21, io base 0x0000d800
[4294676.174000] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
[4294676.174000] hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[4294676.199000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.3[D] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
[4294676.199000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0
[4294676.199000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
[4294676.199000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: irq 21, io mem 0xea001000
[4294676.199000] ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: USB 2.0 initialized, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
[4294676.199000] hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
[4294676.199000] hub 4-0:1.0: 6 ports detected
[4294676.247000] via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.2.0-2.6 June-10-2004 Written by Donald Becker
[4294676.248000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKD] BIOS reported IRQ 0, using IRQ 23
[4294676.248000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKD] enabled at IRQ 23
[4294676.248000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:12.0[A] -> Link [ALKD] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
[4294676.248000] PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:00:12.0, from 11 to 7
[4294676.248000] eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0x1e800, 00:0c:6e:c1:d8:b1, IRQ 23.
[4294676.249000] eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 05e1 Link 41e1.
[4294677.044000] usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[4294678.278000] usbcore: registered new driver hiddev
[4294678.328000] input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [1241:1111] on usb-0000:00:10.0-2
[4294678.328000] usbcore: registered new driver usbhid
[4294678.328000] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.01:USB HID core driver
[4294678.712000] ACPI: Fan [FAN] (on)
[4294678.714000] ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] C2[C2])
[4294678.716000] ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (54 C)
[4294678.887000] Attempting manual resume
[4294678.887000] swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature?
[4294678.895000] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
[4294678.895000] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[4294679.820000] md: md driver 0.90.1 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
[4294682.605000] Adding 6064528k swap on /dev/hda4. Priority:-1 extents:1
[4294682.824000] EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal
[4294687.772000] parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
[4294687.772000] parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP,DMA]
[4294687.857000] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
[4294687.892000] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[4294690.704000] device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
[4294691.336000] cdrom: open failed.
[4294691.338000] cdrom: open failed.
[4294692.054000] NTFS driver 2.1.22 [Flags: R/O MODULE].
[4294692.100000] NTFS volume version 3.1.
[4294692.145000] NTFS volume version 3.1.
[4294693.399000] Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
[4294693.408000] agpgart: Detected VIA KM400/KM400A chipset
[4294693.430000] agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xd0000000
[4294693.502000] pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
[4294693.507000] shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
[4294693.507000] shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5
[4294693.593000] Linux video capture interface: v1.00
[4294693.629000] saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.12 loaded
[4294693.633000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
[4294693.633000] saa7130[0]: found at 0000:00:0a.0, rev: 1, irq: 18, latency: 32, mmio: 0xea000000
[4294693.633000] saa7130[0]: subsystem: 18d0:2100, board: UNKNOWN/GENERIC [card=0,autodetected]
[4294693.633000] saa7130[0]: board init: gpio is 38500
[4294693.744000] saa7130[0]: i2c eeprom 00: d0 18 00 21 10 28 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
[4294693.744000] saa7130[0]: i2c eeprom 10: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
[4294693.744000] saa7130[0]: i2c eeprom 20: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
[4294693.744000] saa7130[0]: i2c eeprom 30: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
[4294693.772000] saa7130[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
[4294693.773000] saa7130[0]: registered device vbi0
[4294694.039000] irda_init()
[4294694.039000] NET: Registered protocol family 23
[4294694.338000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKC] BIOS reported IRQ 0, using IRQ 22
[4294694.338000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKC] enabled at IRQ 22
[4294694.338000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.5[C] -> Link [ALKC] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
[4294694.338000] PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:00:11.5, from 12 to 6
[4294694.338000] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:11.5 to 64
[4294694.849000] codec_read: codec 0 is not valid [0xfe0000]
[4294694.855000] codec_read: codec 0 is not valid [0xfe0000]
[4294694.861000] codec_read: codec 0 is not valid [0xfe0000]
[4294694.867000] codec_read: codec 0 is not valid [0xfe0000]
[4294696.847000] Real Time Clock Driver v1.12
[4294696.933000] input: PC Speaker
[4294697.019000] Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
[4294697.034000] FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
[4294697.691000] ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output
[4294699.079000] eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1
[4294699.088000] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[4294714.801000] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[4294714.802000] Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c02eb280(lo)
[4294714.802000] IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
[4294715.589000] ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
[4294715.589000] ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
[4294715.589000] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB]
[4294715.684000] ibm_acpi: ec object not found
[4294721.916000] apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac)
[4294721.916000] apm: overridden by ACPI.
[4294722.374000] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.7
[4294722.374000] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[4294722.374000] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[4294722.374000] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[4294722.389000] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.7
[4294722.389000] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[4294722.412000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.5
[4294722.412000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[4294722.412000] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[4294725.571000] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
root@ubuntu:~#

mp3guy

ok, try

sudo rmmod saa7134

sudo modprobe saa7134 card=2 tuner=3

then tvtime

Sam Vimes

that worked. it has one or two channels. any idea how to tune in the rest?


and how the hell did you know to do that? where did you get card=2 and tuner=3 from?



if it takes that much fiddling to do everything i still don't think its worth the hassle

mp3guy

Nah, TV cards are just one of a few things that don't work at the start, wifi used to be the same, but that was fully automated in 5.10. I checked up some topics on http://www.ubuntuforums.org you should take a look there if you're having any other problems. As for tuning, just mess around with tvtime I guess, I haven't used it much myself.

Sam Vimes

thanks mate.

in general, if i get a tar.gz file, extract it and then go into it and type ./configure and it tells me no such file or directory, what do i do?

mp3guy

well, if you have to compile anything like that, install build-essential first through synaptic, typing "make" should do it. Or there could be a binary in there and change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to this;

deb-src http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
deb http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
deb http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse main restricted
deb-src http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
deb http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe

deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free

deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main
deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2 ./

by doing

sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

and copy and pasting. Then you can install everything you need

Sam Vimes

i did that and then tried to install realplayer. it told me:

./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `GLIBCPP_3.2' not found (required by ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin)
./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5: version `CXXABI_1.2' not found (required by ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin)



i had a look for them and found a load of forums with people who have the same problem. thank for all your help but eveything i've tried to install so far has involved massive headaches and trudging through the internet for ages for various packages which either won't install without loads of congifuration or require more packages themselves. i can't be arsed with it all. i want to go back to:

open->next->next->finish->use. can't be beaten imo

Sam Vimes

ah windows xp. how i missed you (hugs the computer)

Alvis

Have you tried Automatix for installing other things? It's very convienient.

mp3guy

Yes, automatix is made for windows migrators like you, I forgot to recommend it.

melekalikimaka

just new to this too, had unvuntu for a few months, now trying kubuntu...looks better, but its more complicated i think...ugh

mp3guy

Kubuntu is a bit daunting, mostly becuase of the jam packed menu, thats why I stuck with gnome

melekalikimaka

is it possible to duel boot the two and share common packages? I've a tiny hd ya see

mp3guy

melekalikimaka wrote:

is it possible to duel boot the two and share common packages? I've a tiny hd ya see

Yup, just install ubuntu, and when its done go

sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

then whenever you want to switch, log out, and click "session" and choose KDE or gnome

maidhc

Commander Vimes wrote:

bottom line, i'm going to leave linux to the masochists in this world.

I know the feeling. I get vile headaches anytime I need to set things up, so vile that I am using windows XP right now, because I cant face trying to make my newly installed wireless card and Samsung MFP work.

Matthewthebig

if by any chance you use (k)unbutu there is a good chance it will recognise the card

Snowbat

Why are you trying to install from source? If you go and pick the hardest way to install software in Ubuntu (or any distro with package management), you'll have the most problems, especially if you're not familiar with the process.

http://www.psychocats.net/linux/installingsoftware.php

Having said that, installing from source is *typically* just a matter of ./configure, make, checkinstall make install.

djmarkus

maidhc wrote:

I know the feeling. I get vile headaches anytime I need to set things up, so vile that I am using windows XP right now, because I cant face trying to make my newly installed wireless card and Samsung MFP work.

For wireless support, particularly broadcom, the only distro that i could get my wireless to work proberly is mepis, and it has pretty good support for most other things, and plays mp3's out of the box and it is pretty easy to configure anything else using synaptics and the original debian package repositories. and it is a livecd/install combo.

melekalikimaka

mp3guy wrote:

Yup, just install ubuntu, and when its done go

sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

then whenever you want to switch, log out, and click "session" and choose KDE or gnome

does that work the other way round... my cap has been reached and dont have a ubuntu cd?

mp3guy

melekalikimaka wrote:

does that work the other way round... my cap has been reached and dont have a ubuntu cd?

Yeah, just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you're running kubuntu

rsynnott

Linux isn't really aimed, in general, at the casual home user. This is no particular secret.

For your next trick, please run a top-10 website on Windows XP Home.

Khannie

Commander Vimes wrote:

ah windows xp. how i missed you (hugs the computer)

Hahaha. I have to say that even though I'm using linux more then windows now, the ease with which you can get stuff done in windows makes it an excellent operating system.

I remember very clearly wanting to f*ck my linux box out the window more than once. It's a question of perseverance. It helps me in my job, therefore I use it. I don't have it installed at home though because it's easier to get the job done in windows most of the time.

When you're starting out in linux, the most important thing to know is how to use the command line. After that, synaptic (or apt-get at the command line) is what will keep you sane.

Give it another chance in 2 or 3 years. What you've learned now will help you in the future, plus it'll be nicer to use then.