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talk me abut limerick

  • 22-03-2006 8:16pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭


    Hi guys, gurls and other life forms out there

    I am a guy studying engineering somewhere in sunny Spain, and shortly I'll be travelling to Limerick for a job interview there, prior to probably being hired for working in the Technology Park when I finish my degree. I've been lurking through your posts, and other Limerickianan sources of info and I'm a bit concerned about the city itself... I know it's a University city, and that sounds great, but hearing your comments on a local radio that has 'how to make-up' as a main topic and other things sincerely scares me.
    Let me put this straight, I don't want you misunderstand me and flame all over, I'm not saying you're all living in a hole full of **** or anything like that, I believe I'm just not listening to good sources. I'd like to hear your sincere thoughts on the city you live in. Would you suggest it for spending the next years of my life? PLEASE, be sincere, I'll be ready to listen to all you have to say.

    Thank you so much


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 385 ✭✭radioman


    Don't worry about the radio, luckily there are other stations on the dial that are slightly better than the 'local' fare. If that's the only thing that scares you you'll be fine!

    Limerick, well it's a decent city. It gets a bit of a bashing sometimes from the media but I think it's a nice place to live. The city itself is definitely up and coming and has it's own unique character. A good mix of younger people with the uni. Nightlife is good, once you know the spots, and a lot of decent bands come and play here.

    What are you own interests exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭hobie


    Half of Limerick are buying houses in Spain and Paul wants to come and live in Limerick ..... :confused:

    It's a funny old world .... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Arathorn


    Like everywhere it has good and bad things about it, here is 5 of each in my opinion

    Good
    1. Nightlife can be very good at weekends with a good choice of pubs and clubs
    2. King Johns castle area is really nice and has an interesting history if your in to that kind of thing
    3. People are generally friendly
    4. Its getting better all the time with all the development work going on, its great to see it changing so much for the better
    5. Its not as expensive as Dublin and traffic is much better by comparison

    Bad
    1. The reputation, Everyone associates limerick with crime and violence but this is mostly undeserved
    2. Dirty, The city has a rubbish problem in my opinion and needs a good scrub
    3. Hooded rodent like scumbags who think they own the place especially on saturdays outside HMV!!
    4. The weather, it can be pretty bleak during winter and the surrounding seasons but i guess that applies to the whole country
    5. Public transport isnt great and there are no night buses

    A year isnt that long you will have to decide for yourself, why not visit it first lots of flights into shannon from all over europe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭les-paul


    Radio: I'm looking for cinemas, music shops, places to spend weekends in, entertainment... One of the things to spend my first paycheck will be a new guitar! I just hope I don't have to travel to dublin or Cork to get it.

    hobie: Spain is poor in serious engineering jobs, that's a consequence of merrily dedicating to the easy money of tourism and not worrying about investing and investigation. So, the plan is spend a few years out there and hopefully coming back some day.

    Arathorn: I'm not talking about a year but some years... But all you said sounded great (the good things) and not that basd (the bad things).

    Thanks again lads, I'm feeling much more confident now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭irishguy


    Hey les-paul have a look at the stickys there is quite a lot to do in Limerick and getting a guitar wont be a problem there is a population of around 110,000 in the Limerick area so most of the same facilities exist here like in cities of a similar size. As for engineering jobs they will be plenty for the next few years


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Inge Binge


    be prepared for a kind of a cultural shock if you arrive from the continent on this beautiful island. a lot of things work different here then you expect it with your continental experience.

    but i've survived it for nearly three years now :D

    IB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Arathorn


    Inge im just curious as to what type of things shocked you when moved here??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Inge Binge


    Arathorn, i better send you a PM - otherwise I will be lapidated! :D

    well, I can arrange myself with an not existing public transport. I can arrange myself with the culture of the housing estates. I can arrange myself with the drinking culture :D . I can try to arrange myself with the road safety (getting a provisional license, allowed with this to be on the road, taking the "real" test, failing this test which proofs IMO that you are not able to drive a car correctly, go back to the road with your provisional license). But I can never ever arrange myself with the health system in this country. This is a laughing matter! No, it's to serious to laugh about. It's actually very sad!

    IB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    The city recently in a survey came out on top as 'Irelands best city to live and work in'!
    A modern city built on an acient history dating back to Viking Times, the city is full of muesums and art gallery's, as well as theatres and concert venues!
    Limerick is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been to!
    Dont worry about what you read, for the most part this is an outlet to express anger at stuff happening in the city!
    Plus there are 5 Limerick Local Radio Stations (including that west limerick one), Plus 4/5 National Stations, and others you can pick up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    I think you'll get plenty of biased advice here, personally I like the place but I'll be the first to admit it has plenty of improvements yet to come.

    It does have a problem with "scumbag" culture though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Inge Binge


    Limerick is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been to!

    No offense intended - but when did you left the last time the city boundaries? And what cities have you visited?

    IB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭kyp_durron


    It does have a problem with "scumbag" culture though.

    True, but so does the rest of the country, I lived in Dublin, and found it as rough if not worse than Limerick.

    Also I found kids from the upper/middle classes to be every bit as bad as "da lads" from Ballymun and the likes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭les-paul


    Hi lads

    inge_binge: Could you please talk about the issues about housing states and the health system? I had already heard about the driving licenses policies plus the drinking.

    And to everyone, what's all that about scumbags? I tried to look that up on google but it just seems to be a rude word to say to someone.

    Thanks to everyone who replied, I'm absolutely eager to get there and see it by myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Inge Binge


    les-paul wrote:
    Hi lads

    inge_binge: Could you please talk about the issues about housing states and the health system?

    Well, this is not specific for the city. It applies to the whole country.

    For the housing estates you should read through this: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054852736

    For the health system: I just compare with Germany. I don't know the situation in Spain. So this is just my german view to the things... Thats why I wont compain about this in public and in general... :D

    IB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    Les your rite the Scumbags thing is a term attached to undesirable people who live in Limerick and all cities in fact its just we use the word a LOT.

    The Health system has major flaws in waiting period not really in the quality of the service is generally high. As someone who has spent considerable time in hospital I would say it is not a factor to stop someone coming to live here but you have to be prepared to wait for treatment.

    Inge its not fair to say that the public transport system is non existant its that it works outside of normal time in a realm all of its own and time to time sitings at both Todds and the Golden Grill of large bus like objects have been seen often driverless and closed in the pouring rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭lukin


    I think you'll get plenty of biased advice here, personally I like the place but I'll be the first to admit it has plenty of improvements yet to come.

    It does have a problem with "scumbag" culture though.

    Have to agree with the last part. There does seem to be a greater concentration of "that word beginning with the letter 'K' that I'm not allowed say" in Limerick. You see them hanging around every Spar and filling station in the city. It's also the only city where I have had to overtake kids riding ponies!
    I know you won't like it Shannonsiders but I'm just speaking from experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    Inge Binge wrote:
    No offense intended - but when did you left the last time the city boundaries? And what cities have you visited?

    IB
    I travel alot, and the city is full of so many beauty spots!
    The peoples park, Tait Square, Many of the Buildings at that side of the city, plus then theres the water front on both the canal and the Shannon, the whole way up is fabulous (except the tax office building)! Kings Island is really nice, there are so many really great buildings... like the old city hall where the Limerick Post is now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    Hey les-paul,

    I'm the worst guy you should ask — a Dub-in-Limerick, here for the last 13 years... (another 87 years, and maybe my great-great-grandchildren won't be considered blow-ins...) :rolleyes:

    Whatever about Limerick City, and all its undeserved Bad Press, it is FABulously located with regard to other areas of Ireland. Kerry, Cork, Clare are on your doorstep. Dublin is two hours away by train. Limerick City itself has been transformed beyond recognition in the last ten/fifteen years or so (and thankfully so!)

    Nobody has yet mentioned the climate. Do you like rain? :D
    Most weekends, I get myself (+dependants) the fork outta here. It can be solid leaden skies/pissin' rain in Limerick, but 10 miles North, East or South there's blue skies...

    Then again, coming from El Andaluz, maybe that's not an issue..(?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    I travel alot, and the city is full of so many beauty spots!
    The peoples park, Tait Square, Many of the Buildings at that side of the city, plus then theres the water front on both the canal and the Shannon, the whole way up is fabulous (except the tax office building)! Kings Island is really nice, there are so many really great buildings... like the old city hall where the Limerick Post is now!

    Limerick has some fine buildings, but to say it's up there with the great cities is just crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    It's ok Peckerhead, if you don't want to be called a "blow-in" we'll let it go.

    Don't think the weather is that bad, but I've lived in Galway so I'm immune to rain at this stage. Definately wetter than Dublin, but I think everywhere in Ireland is wetter than Dublin.

    It is a great location, Cork, Kerry, Tipperary, Clare, Galway in easy driving distance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Inge Binge wrote:
    No offense intended - but when did you left the last time the city boundaries? And what cities have you visited?

    IB
    well if he ment ireland i suppose he's right but i also like cork alot
    no problems with any irish cities although there are some aspects of galway that i dont like (please no one ask me what they are because im not in the mood for a flame war)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    In my oppinion I love Limerick.
    And that's probably Limericks greatest feature.
    There is an imense pride in Limerick, probably because the rest of the country keeps putting us down!
    The weather is prett awfull, but then I'm sure you expect that.
    And you get used to the terrible transport system.
    If you like sport, then Limerick is definately the city for you.
    The whole city tends to come to a standstill whenever Munster are playing.
    You'll find nearly every major shoping chain, and you'll have no problem gettinga guitar, as there are plenty of music stores.
    As for the scumbags, in my oppinion, thery're not as big a problem as people make out. it tends to be a kind of, they'll ignore you, if you ignore them, attitude in the city itself.
    All in all, you won't regret coming over here.

    lukin wrote:
    It's also the only city where I have had to overtake kids riding ponies!
    I know you won't like it Shannonsiders but I'm just speaking from experience.

    Ahhhm, should I point out that I was only watching a programme on RTE lastnight about kids selling horses every month in the middle of dublin city?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Ahhhm, should I point out that I was only watching a programme on RTE lastnight about kids selling horses every month in the middle of dublin city?!
    oh that would be a funny sight
    up there with knackers on ponies on the dual carriageway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    And you get used to the terrible transport system.

    In fairness it's easy to get used to a crap public transport system if
    A: it's all you've ever known,
    and more importantly
    B: you live centrally so rarely need it.

    The public transport system in Ireland has to be the worst in the developed world. I never really noticed how bad it was as I always lived in central areas and walked everywhere. On my first visit to Ireland since moving to London, a city where bitching about public transport is more commonplace than Starbucks, I was shocked at how dreadful the public transport actually is.

    I know I will never move back to Ireland if I have to live somewhere that I have to rely on public transport on a daily basis. My advice to les-paul is to choose his accommodation carefully and look for somewhere that he can walk most places. Especially at night as there is no public transport after around 11.30pm and driving if you've been drinking is stupid, selfish and illegal. Luckily accommodation in Limerick has to be amoung the cheapest in the country and any semi-decent salary will allow you to live in (almost) any area you choose.

    The health system has never seemed like a problem to me. Then again I've never lived somewhere like Germany which has a fantastic system. It can certainly take a long time to treat non life-threatening illness. I remember once getting an urgent referral for a specialist and my appointment was for 11 months time. Having a throat/sinus infection can cost up to a €130 between GP fees and anti-biotics while treatment for a broken limb including x-rays and follow up physiotherapy costs €55.

    As for the Scumbag factor. Any trip to the city centre will bring you face to face with them. They aren't dangerous, but they like to think they are. You might hear them described as the working-class. Though this is inaccurate as by definition the working-classes WORK for a living and don't hang around HMV & McDonalds making unpleasant noises or firing spit-balls through straws.

    They are recognisable by the fact that they mostly wear sports wear, though not playing sports. They tend to wear large amounts of gold jewellery, purchased from Argos or the jewellers in Williams Court Mall. (The window of that jewellers is always a fun place to waste twenty minutes if you are waiting for someone. - My personal favourite is the solid gold Jesus head, the size of a child’s hand, covered in jewel encrusted thorns leaking ruby blood.)

    They speak in horrible, flat but nasal voices. And they do so loudly and indistinctly. So don't worry if you don't understand most of what they say to you. It is no indication of the quality of your English.

    There are no more of these people, percentage wise, than there are in any city or large town in the country. But in Dublin, for example, scumbags generally hang out on the northside and don't bother much with the southside of the city. Limerick is too small for that kind of division and so the scumbag haunts are interspersed amoung the nice areas.

    Overall Limerick is a nice place. With cheap accommodation and decent nightlife - as long as you know where to go. There are some really nice spots, if you like nature. Out by the university there are some nice river walks. (Although it was nicer before they erected that hulking, stupid bridge and started building on the flood-plains. - rant over)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭les-paul


    This post is becoming a gret source of info, thx a lot!

    And for the scumbags, you're making a point by point description of people you can find in Spain as well (including the insane jewelry), so I don't believe I'll have many problems getting used to it!

    The public transport is something which concerns me, as I won't drive when I live there, so I guess I'll try to look for acommodation by the city centre if it's not too expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Not sure what your budget is or if you are planning on sharing or not. But something like this
    http://daft.ie/searchrental.daft?search=1&s[cc_id]=c17&limit=10&search_type=rental&id=383342
    is pretty good value. It's pretty managable alone but if you decided to share it would only be €225 per month.

    Although perhaps something around Clare St or Mulgrave St would be your best bet as they are on the bus routes to Plassey but in easy walking distance of the city centre. They are also both safe areas where you should not have any trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    iguana wrote:
    (The window of that jewellers is always a fun place to waste twenty minutes if you are waiting for someone. - My personal favourite is the solid gold Jesus head, the size of a child’s hand, covered in jewel encrusted thorns leaking ruby blood.

    The Jesus head is great and all, but i think the solid (pronounced "holid") gold AK47, the big horse head, and the diamante Tu-Pac, are just as good!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭limerick_man


    Well personally I love Raheen! When out at night I feel 100% safe, if i was living in the city centre going out at 11 at night for a walk or run.. its not actually dangerous, but i would have an eerie feeling!
    Plus theres only poor public transport in some areas, Raheen is served really well, theres a bus every 10 mins, (and usually you dont even need to wait that long because they are rushing to try and catch up with the offical timetable), plus taxis will always be there for ya!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭direbadger


    The Jesus head is great and all, but i think the solid (pronounced "holid") gold AK47, the big horse head, and the diamante Tu-Pac, are just as good!:D
    Not forgetting the giant hash leaf and jewell encrusted (I hear someone descride them as "green diamonts") pony and trap! Funny story, my aunt, who's posh and English, was driving through the city centre in Limerick when a man on a pony 'ntrap came along and asked her how much she wanted for her car. When she came home she said "you'll never beleive what happened in town! A man drove up to me on a chariot!" Heh. Chariot.


    I like Limerick too. The rain can be annoying but it's not that bad. The city centre looks great, so great in fact Dublin looks shabby in comparison.

    Buy your guitar in Savins, don't go down to the rip off merchant in Steamboat Quay.

    I don't think there's any more "hoodies" here than in any other city. They don't bother me anyway.

    As people have mentioned, there a drinking culture here which means that there are few opportunities to do anything socially if you don'tlike getting blotto. This is slowly changing though. I'm starting to meet more and more people with non-drinking hobbies in the evening.

    Anyway, I'm getting kicked out of this classroom now so I'll go.
    Summary: Limerick = good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    direbadger wrote:
    Summary: Limerick = good.

    I think that this says it all really!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    A surprising shock you didn't know about Limerick!

    Well you know the cost of property is relatively cheap compared to Cork or Dublin, but the house prices are rising at a faster rate here

    Fact two. Limerick is now the second most expensive city in Ireland after Dublin to build property! The article was on the Irish independant last week if anyone thinks I'm talking bull...

    Fact three. Limerick county is the third wealthiest county in terms of per capita after Dublin & Kildare.

    Fact four. Limerick is the fastest growing commercial centre after Dublin

    Fact five. Limerick crime rate is lower than the National average. and has less murders than either Dublin, Cork or Galway in the last two years.

    More facts later...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭irishguy


    mysterious wrote:
    A surprising shock you didn't know about Limerick!

    Well you know the cost of property is relatively cheap compared to Cork or Dublin, but the house prices are rising at a faster rate here

    Fact two. Limerick is now the second most expensive city in Ireland after Dublin to build property! The article was on the Irish independant last week if anyone thinks I'm talking bull...

    Fact three. Limerick county is the third wealthiest county in terms of per capita after Dublin & Kildare.

    Fact four. Limerick is the fastest growing commercial centre after Dublin

    Fact five. Limerick crime rate is lower than the National average. and has less murders than either Dublin, Cork or Galway in the last two years.

    More facts later...
    Really have to agree with you there was up in Galway last week and it really does look at bit shabby in the center. Also there doesnt seem to be much there. Yes i know everyone loves Galway but i dont really see why. Also i taught Cork was a bit of a hole till lately, it has come on alot in the last few years....I dont know what my point is i just want to say something :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭vkid


    irishguy wrote:
    Really have to agree with you there was up in Galway last week and it really does look at bit shabby in the center. Also there doesnt seem to be much there. Yes i know everyone loves Galway but i dont really see why. Also i taught Cork was a bit of a hole till lately, it has come on alot in the last few years....I dont know what my point is i just want to say something :D


    Have to agree. Really don;t get the Galway thing at all. When I was a student its a good town but its not all that to be honest. The clubs are crap, the pubs are good but its not as happening a place as everyone would make you think. I spent a few weekends there over the last 12 months with friends who moved up there and i never was blown away by the place. My friends are there a year or so and already are talking about moving. They reckon you get claustraphobic there very quickly as its quite small( same ol same ol after a while) and reckon its easier to get into a fight there than limerick. After my last trip there I'd agree.. Shop street is a freaky place after the pubs close


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    No need to start a Limerick-Galway fight. Completely different towns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭irishguy


    No need to start a Limerick-Galway fight. Completely different towns.
    but limerick is better :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Go and post that on the Galway board if you're feeling brave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    Go and post that on the Galway board if you're feeling brave.
    I did that ages ago... :D;):p Well I just wanted to see what the reaction was when I tell a Galwegian the facts, Like Limerick is Ireland's third bigges city. lol.... what a reaction I got... On top of that I never said one rude comment about Galway I did'nt say much more really, I just got backlash, the Negatvity was replusive :eek: shocking and wait..... wait... they even called us stab city, I mean that was just the end of me..
    After that I was banned. as it was my fault for rising the dirt on Galway bay!
    Well after that I needed to put it behind me, lol and
    I booked up for a councelling session and it wasn't anywhere near Galway for sure... I think I 'm over it now, though we just have to put the knives away!


    I think the conclusion is Limerick really is just as good as Cork or Galway (a little squeeze in here or just better!.. Again ask them what they think of Limerick... and it will remain very obvious, it's like reverse pscycology or whatever it's called...so we should laugh at it when the backlash comes, like so :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    Most of the bad media thrown Limericks way in the 80's was to draw attention away from the bad crime situation up in Dublin.
    All the national media at the time was from Dublin and the city had, for a while, the worst crime rate per capita of any city in the then ECC.
    They wanted a scapegoat, and we were it.
    Anyone in Limerick will tell you this.
    What we tend to forget (leave out) though, is that Cork got the exact same treatment.
    Limerick was referred to as Stab City, while Cork was referred to as Stanly City, because it had a reputation of people slashing up other peoples faces with stanley knives!
    Galway never got the backlash, as at the time nobody tried to pretend that Galway was anyway near the size of Limerick.
    It was considered nothing more as a tourist destination, and you don't want to give a bad reputation to your yank trap!
    The difference is, Cork actually done something about this, and their local media, managed to fight back so to speak against the national media.
    In Limerick, our local media is a joke, and as much to blame for our national (and international) image as the national (by which I mean Dublin!) media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    Out of bad come's good right = Limerick is now better as it really wasn't bad at all.... The media has really made mountain of moehills. Like a girl says recently to me, where she would go out and stuff, where she went, I asked her if she went out in Limerick (obvious Limerick rarely gets mentioned) after that she blurted out that Limerick is a kip....:rolleyes: well she never stayed there for the purpose of being in Limerick, she never went out there , after that I guessed she had no clue what she was talking about.. So eventually I asked her where's her evidence to back up her statement (a girl living in sprawling Blanch, though nothing wrong with blanch, but for a comparitive sake with Limerick even? a kip she says? not like Blanc has anything to offer, but a housing estate) Her statment was: she passed through Limerick a few times because she was going to Kerry,when she was young........................., Sweet jesus..........................., I made a fine bad judgement of her stating she is stupid & gullable.. (but in my head) :D the reality I laughed at her instead, I suppose my judgment came across eventually:)


    M ywhole point is, despite the Media attacks, people are still believing this madness...






    The Limerick leader is also sometimes a joke...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Most of the bad media thrown Limericks way in the 80's was to draw attention away from the bad crime situation up in Dublin.
    All the national media at the time was from Dublin and the city had, for a while, the worst crime rate per capita of any city in the then ECC.
    They wanted a scapegoat, and we were it.
    Anyone in Limerick will tell you this.
    What we tend to forget (leave out) though, is that Cork got the exact same treatment.
    Limerick was referred to as Stab City, while Cork was referred to as Stanly City, because it had a reputation of people slashing up other peoples faces with stanley knives!
    Galway never got the backlash, as at the time nobody tried to pretend that Galway was anyway near the size of Limerick.
    It was considered nothing more as a tourist destination, and you don't want to give a bad reputation to your yank trap!
    The difference is, Cork actually done something about this, and their local media, managed to fight back so to speak against the national media.
    In Limerick, our local media is a joke, and as much to blame for our national (and international) image as the national (by which I mean Dublin!) media.


    I don't know if I can agree with all that, Limerick does have a greater crime problem than Galway, and Galway does have a better pub scene than Limerick, as well as a world famous Arts Festival.

    On the local media thing, do a count on how many negative headlines about Cork the Examiner carries and how many negative headlines the Leader carries about Limerick, the Examiner never misses a chance to promote Cork, whereas the Leader never misses a chance to run the city down. it's a hateful rag that should be burned down again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Frank OJ


    Where do you get off saying something like that about the Limerick Leader. As far as im concerned they will promote Limerick whenever they get a chance. Sure they will have negative stories but is it not a newspaper?? There's nothing worse than reading articles that are completely biased. would you rather they cover up the cracks and write about pure crap?? Big difference in what you say about the examiner. Its a National paper and because of its past have many journo's working for them from Cork. Maybe for the fact that they have biased opinions in the examiner it is one of the most least read national newspapers. http://www.nni.ie/readfigs6.htm . Add in the fact that Cork was the Cultural city of Europe recenty Ide imagine every effort was made to promote Cork by all newspapers. Limerick Leader provide great coverage to Rugby and GAA, and have a great local section, and ARENT afraid to print a story if it means upsetting people. Sure one or two might not be published in best taste but s**t happens. seems to me theres more to your rant and your bitter about something....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Frank, fair play, you are the first person I have ever heard defend the Leader.

    Personally I think it's a negative rag the city would be better without but you're entitled to your opinion. I'll admit the burn it down comment was out of line.

    I don't have the time, energy, resources or dedication to review every Leader and Chronicle front page from the last year but I'm willing to place an educated guess that somewhere between 75-85% of the headlines will be negative. It's a miserable paper (imo).

    Now, you're right on one point, it does have a good sports section and full credit to them for it, my point was about it's headlines, that large black block print screaming horrors of the city, nothing to do with it's sports department.

    Am I bitter person? I don't think so, but I'm fiercely proud of Limerick and frankly I think the Leader doesn't do the city any good. I've no personal agenda with the Leader, I've never been featured negatively among it's pages or anything. I have lived in different cities and I've never come across a local paper so determined to be glum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    I have to agree with Amazotheamazing on this. The leader even creates rubbisg whether it's good or bad. I can't pin point an example right now, but some stories on this paper had made national headlines in the past.
    Some great news turned out to be like stalemate.... the Conference centre, huge write up about that a few weeks ago, remember it took the entire front page and inside of the paper, basically its rehashed,recylced and old is news which is not factual....:rolleyes: what else, surley people here could mention one or two stories, that give you this impression,

    On the defence, well what is there to defend about the good points on the leader? Its their job to gvie at least some decent news?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    Frank, the point we are making about the Leader is one held by a very large number of people in Limerick.
    First off, yes, of course it is right, to point out the bad aspects of Limerick, but the Leader and the Post try to be fear mongering papers.
    If you read through them, you will find reports about, really petty crimes, ranging from stolen handbags, to a group of kids hanging around a corner!
    The best example of this came a year ago, when the paper led with a headline, about a couple of teenagers, who robbed a few yops from a shop!!!
    That's not a joke, two kids shoplifted a couple of yops from the newsagents on Catherine street!
    The paper stated, that seeing as copious amounts of marijuana smoking can lead to constipation, they were obviously robbing the yogourts to try and help their bowl movements!!! This of course is proof of a serious drug problem in Limerick!!!
    This is the kind of journalism that these papers excrete!

    As for our neighbouring cities media. A few years ago, a paper in Galway (I can't remember it's name, and I'm too lazy to Google it!), ran a derogatory article about the problem of rape in Galway. Galway, in case you didn't know, has the highest incidence of rape per capita in the country. And it has had for a long time.
    After this article was published, Galway City Council, got in contact with the paper, and threatened to try and close it down, if it continued to print bad stories about Galway!
    Guess what the ratio between praising and damning stories they print about Galway is now?!!

    That is the kind of media the rest of the country has.
    They breed an attitude of, ah well who cares if we have crime, at least we're not as bad as Limerick!
    Which is a complete pile of s**t!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    I've lived all 19 years of my life in Limerick and love it. My mam came to Limerick when she was 9 from Mallow and has never adjusted to the climate.

    Cork=Freezing Cold

    Limerick=Soaked wet or Bone Dry

    I'm in UL and I presume you mean the Plassey Tecnological Park. There's a few way out in the county.

    Limerick, despite appearances is NOT a universtiy city, University of Limerick is outside the city boundary. It has suffered because of this. I had a conversation wit a few friends on Friday and we concluded that students don't come to university in Limerick the come to university in Castletroy (which is by the way among the top 10 fastest growing areas in the country)

    Accomodation is blatently abundant in all shapes and sizes in Castletroy so this should not be a problem.

    There is a decent but unpunctual transport service orepated by Bus Éireann. The bus is supposed to leave the city centre every 15 minutes, but this is unrealistic to expect as drivers are in the main too relaxed and don't care about the timetable.

    Crime- Well having nearly been robbed of my wallet and contents (€4) on Thursday on the Ennis Rd. by you guessed it a "scumbag" I should say it's a massive concern. But the little f****r didn't get my wallet as I saw his hand goin for my pocket.

    The Garda was really helpful when I reported this (not that I expect they'll catch him). But overall I feel very safe in Limerick, there are just places you don't go at certain times or any time if you are an outsider (that includes Limerick people not from the immediate area)

    I get the bus to university most days. You have to budget about an extra 25-30 mins to ensure you get to your destination on time, Of course due to the inconsistency, this also means you can get there 45 minutes early and have nothing to do.

    Limerick is fast becoming a metropolitan city with all of the Henry St. and Suburban retail development.

    You'll love it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    ninty9er wrote:
    Limerick, despite appearances is NOT a universtiy city, University of Limerick is outside the city boundary. It has suffered because of this. I had a conversation wit a few friends on Friday and we concluded that students don't come to university in Limerick the come to university in Castletroy (which is by the way among the top 10 fastest growing areas in the country)

    That's why most people in Limerick(City) want the boundry extension!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    That's why most people in Limerick(City) want the boundry extension!

    The Boundary extension will not make Limerick a "university city", the students really don't mix with the city, UL is a self-contained campus. In Galway the university's students are everywhere, in Limerick you hardly see them. In time this might change, with the improvements in the canal and the developments in Singland. You have to remember Galway has been a university for over 150 years, UL has only been in existence since the early 1970's, it takes time for these institutions to become part of the region's social fabric.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭les-paul


    This is so funny, I started this thread asking about Limerick and now the company just offered me a job in Cork! So my time as a Limerick man has ended before even starting! It was nice while it lasted, tough... Alrgight people, time to stop buggin' here and go buggin' the Cork board. So long and thanks for the fish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    les-paul wrote:
    This is so funny, I started this thread asking about Limerick and now the company just offered me a job in Cork! So my time as a Limerick man has ended before even starting! It was nice while it lasted, tough... Alrgight people, time to stop buggin' here and go buggin' the Cork board. So long and thanks for the fish.

    No worries Les, have a great time in Cork.


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