Anyone else seen this guy on M50?

Big Balls

Drives a wine saloon Corolla - 00 D reg (I have the rest of the plate)?

Works as a sparks/builder and everyday he will undertake you, force his way in front of you so as to nearly cause a pile up, do the same thing while moving into the left lane and back into the right in front of yet another car. He basically does this the whole way home and if anyone beeps/flashes him he stands on the brakes.

I've seen him on a previous occasion driving up the hard shoulder, crossing medians at slip roads and then back into the hard shoulder.

Complete and utter scumbag who will cause a pile up pretty soon on the M50.

I made a complaint of dangerous driving against him to the Guards in Ronanstown yesterday after he stood on the brakes after I beeped at him for cutting me up and then at the toll bridge he got out and started mouthing off.

Waiting to hear back from them, wondering if anyone else has witnessed this fella?

phoenix_nights

Big Balls wrote:

I made a complaint of dangerous driving against him to the Guards in Ronanstown yesterday after he stood on the brakes after I beeped at him for cutting me up and then at the toll bridge he got out and started mouthing off.

Fair play for making the complaint. If more people did this every motorist would be wary of driving dangerously.

colm_mcm

Would there be any CCTV evidence?

That kind of driving drives me mad!

dts

You need witnesses or its just your word against his. Anyone else back the guy up?

kluivert

There should be CCTV at the toll brdige should do the job.

I overtook a car last night and cut it a bit short for the on coming traffic, totally my fault. I put my hand up to apolagise to the on coming jeep, then he starts sworving the jeep left and right and then gives me the two fingers.

There is a hugh problem with driver attitude in this country. Bad Attitude leads to bad driving and then to dangerous driving and dead people.

Duiske

kluivert wrote:

I overtook a car last night and cut it a bit short for the on coming traffic, totally my fault. I put my hand up to apolagise to the on coming jeep, then he starts sworving the jeep left and right and then gives me the two fingers.

There is a hugh problem with driver attitude in this country. Bad Attitude leads to bad driving and then to dangerous driving and dead people.

Yeah. He was wrong to give you the two fingers. Instead of wasting time doing that, he should have been taking note of your reg number. Bad Attitude does indeed lead to bad driving and then to dangerous driving and dead people, but so to does careless/dangerous overtaking !

Anan1

Duiske_Lad wrote:

Yeah. He was wrong to give you the two fingers. Instead of wasting time doing that, he should have been taking note of your reg number. Bad Attitude does indeed lead to bad driving and then to dangerous driving and dead people, but so to does careless/dangerous overtaking !

I think he knows that. At least he was big enough to acknowledge and apologise for his mistake.

colm_mcm

if he had enough space to swerve from left to right a few times and enough time to make two-fingered gestures, I'd guess it wasn't life or death

crosstownk

There is a special number you can ring for this sort of behaviour - I've seen it posted on the M50 - I think it's called Traffic Watch or something.
Fair play to you. We all should do our bit to make the roads safer.

Seth Brundle

That traffic Watch number seemingly is a waste of time as it isn't manned AFAIK.

m_stan

kbannon wrote:

That traffic Watch number seemingly is a waste of time as it isn't manned AFAIK.

it's manned alright. I called it once and got through to somwhere. Gave the details of the pratt that was driving up my anus and the Garda said they 'look into it'. Last I ever heard. At max the people involved get a caution.

btw - where on the m50, south or noth bound, and at what time of the day does this eejit play his games ? I drive almost the length of the m50 every day and will keep an eye out for him.

C_Breeze

there there, that guy sounds to me as if he thinks hes a bit of a savage driver.
If youve got even a semi decently quick car- cut him off then drive reeealy slowly and when he goes to undertake u again floor it , forcing him to get behind u again ...repeat that like 3 times and he'll feel like a right oul sap in his little winey corolla haha.

Turner

C_Breeze wrote:

there there, that guy sounds to me as if he thinks hes a bit of a savage driver.
If youve got even a semi decently quick car- cut him off then drive reeealy slowly and when he goes to undertake u again floor it , forcing him to get behind u again ...repeat that like 3 times and he'll feel like a right oul sap in his little winey corolla haha.

Both of ye will probably crash into each other, stop in the middle of both lanes until the Gardai arrive, cause massive tailbacks.

Ye might even have another accident on the other side of the m50 occur with people rubber necking.

Traffic will be blocked up for hours...


Just make a statement of complaint at a Garda station. Its the very same as a Garda witnessing his driving. Go to court, act as the witness for the DPP and get him convicted and hopefully banned.

hargo

if he is undertaking you then you are in the wrong lane as you are not overtaking anything.

Anan1

C_Breeze wrote:

there there, that guy sounds to me as if he thinks hes a bit of a savage driver.
If youve got even a semi decently quick car- cut him off then drive reeealy slowly and when he goes to undertake u again floor it , forcing him to get behind u again ...repeat that like 3 times and he'll feel like a right oul sap in his little winey corolla haha.

It's the M50, not kindergarten.

The Doktor

Driving on the hard shoulder?? grrr.. report him!

drdre

you should report those kind of people as they are a big threat to the public.he should be fined /banned.

m_stan

C_Breeze wrote:

there there, that guy sounds to me as if he thinks hes a bit of a savage driver.
If youve got even a semi decently quick car- cut him off then drive reeealy slowly and when he goes to undertake u again floor it , forcing him to get behind u again ...repeat that like 3 times and he'll feel like a right oul sap in his little winey corolla haha.

yeah real mature.

Henry Ford III

1890 205 805

Traffic Corps report line. I've never used it, but would hope it might be effective.
Use a handsfree mobile btw.

el tel

hargo wrote:

if he is undertaking you then you are in the wrong lane as you are not overtaking anything.

There is a big difference between passing someone who is sitting out in the overtaking lane and the aggressive weaving which this muppet is described as doing.

Gurgle

C_Breeze wrote:

If youve got even a semi decently quick car- cut him off then drive reeealy slowly and when he goes to undertake u again floor it , forcing him to get behind u again ...repeat that like 3 times and he'll feel like a right oul sap in his little winey corolla haha.

You're an evolutionary dead end.

irishpartyboy

A colleague of mine drives like a lunatic in a high powered Integra. He's was pulled on this way back from the West by the Garda..they were actually waiting for him as someone had reported him to that hotline number on his way down to the West an hour previously... they told him off but reality is they can do feck all about it unless they catch him/her in the act...

Henry Ford III

irishpartyboy wrote:

A colleague of mine drives like a lunatic in a high powered Integra. He's was pulled on this way back from the West by the Garda..they were actually waiting for him as someone had reported him to that hotline number on his way down to the West an hour previously... they told him off but reality is they can do feck all about it unless they catch him/her in the act...

If someone complains and is prepared to make a statement, they can prosecute.
The more witnesses the stronger the case.

blackbird98

In the past two years i have reported 3 people in different parts of the country. for two of these, the cops more or less talked me out of making a complaint, stating that i would have to make a statement and go to court, and at the end of the day, it was his word against mine, but they would "look into it". the last complaint i made, both myself and another guy went to the cop-shop and made statements. they checked his reg no and told me that the car was registered to a respectable local family and the would have a chat with him. never heard anything since. Cops dont want to bother with the paperwork!!

BrianD3

AFAIK the traffic watch scheme has collapsed recently. I remember reading about this somewhere.

In any case I don't think it worked very well. There are a lot of muppets out there who regard anyone overtaking them or making better progress than them as an "impatient dangerous lunatic" and would likely report them even though it might be a completely false accusation.

C_Breeze

Gurgle wrote:

You're an evolutionary dead end.

evolutionary? - as in mitsubishi evolution? ...woohoo , that can only be a good thing! you people are so kind

PhoenixRising

@Big Balls

I'm assuming that you were following the traffic flow closely in the overtaking lane and not just sitting in the overtaking lane with nothing in front of you? If this was the case then he does sound like an ignorant prick.

Nothing irritates me more on the M50 than the muppets who will just sit in the overtaking lane with nothing in front of them and won't move over. I don't care if they are sticking to the speed limit or not. If a car approaches behind travelling faster they should move over, and give up this 'holy guardian of the speed limit' crap. Some of course are just idiots who are oblivious to other traffic and don't know where their mirrors are. These are the only cases where I will contemplate an undertaking manoeuve, and only after sitting there for several minutes doing my best to indicate to them that I would like to get by, and after making sure it's reasonably safe to do so (keeping a very close eye on the offending car should he/she suddenly make up their mind to finally move over).

Seth Brundle

irishpartyboy wrote:

A colleague of mine drives like a lunatic in a high powered Integra. He's was pulled on this way back from the West by the Garda..they were actually waiting for him as someone had reported him to that hotline number on his way down to the West an hour previously... they told him off but reality is they can do feck all about it unless they catch him/her in the act...

How did the gardai know to sit and wait for the driver to return from the west? Would they have sat there indefinitley for him then?

colm_mcm

m_stan wrote:

Gave the details of the pratt that was driving up my anus and the Garda said they 'look into it'

Does anyone else find this funny

Rudolph Claus

Originally Posted by m_stan
Gave the details of the pratt that was driving up my anus and the Garda said they 'look into it'

Does anyone else find this funny

Heh heh.

TheNog

I have used the TrafficWatch number several times and found it to be quite effective. The guards in local stations usually called me within a few minutes and i have only been fobbed off maybe 2-3 times out of 13-15 i called. i have used it to have several drunk drivers stopped and even one who was falling asleep at the wheel on the M7 and almost caused 2 major accidents!!!

my girlfriend thinks i am over zealous and she is probably right. i tend to watch others drivers behaviour and if they commit a danagerous act i am on the phone straight away. i have also been known to follow some very bad drivers for 30+ miles just to get them stopped.

do u think i am a little crazy??? well let me tell you about my routes to and from work. when i lived in meath and finished a day shift in leixlip, i had three seperate routes to chose from. when i finished a nite shift it was a completely different story 'cos 2 of the routes were so danagerous with commuters travelling to dublin.
now i travel from cavan to leixlip and i guarantee you i see at least 5 danagerous stupid acts every day. it is absolutely unbelieveable and it is part of the reason why i have applied to join the gardai this year.

C_Breeze

TheNog wrote:

I have used the TrafficWatch number several times and found it to be quite effective. The guards in local stations usually called me within a few minutes and i have only been fobbed off maybe 2-3 times out of 13-15 i called. i have used it to have several drunk drivers stopped and even one who was falling asleep at the wheel on the M7 and almost caused 2 major accidents!!!

my girlfriend thinks i am over zealous and she is probably right. i tend to watch others drivers behaviour and if they commit a danagerous act i am on the phone straight away. i have also been known to follow some very bad drivers for 30+ miles just to get them stopped.

do u think i am a little crazy??? well let me tell you about my routes to and from work. when i lived in meath and finished a day shift in leixlip, i had three seperate routes to chose from. when i finished a nite shift it was a completely different story 'cos 2 of the routes were so danagerous with commuters travelling to dublin.
now i travel from cavan to leixlip and i guarantee you i see at least 5 danagerous stupid acts every day. it is absolutely unbelieveable and it is part of the reason why i have applied to join the gardai this year.

yes , but not just a litlle crazy ...allo out crazy. Girlfriend you say?

TheNog

well girlfriend or observer...i can't remember now. she is female though

skibum

A while ago I had a close encounter with a complete [unt in a lancer on the N11 coming into Wicklow town, all the way in he was taking reckless, stupid moves all over the place, he didn't appear to be drunk , just very agressive. anyway drove to the Garda station gave them the speil, bascially getting the usual "yeah, yeah" until one guard tapped in the reg of the car, what ever came up on his screen made him shout at the motorbike cop who was having a nice cup of tea, had a quick word with him, and then left like a bat out of hell. Never heard anything after that but they were eager to get him

LFCFan

TheNog! What would you consider dangerous driving that warrented reporting?

Anan1

LFCFan wrote:

TheNog! What would you consider dangerous driving that warrented reporting?

Calm down, it's only a troll.;)

Big Balls

hargo wrote:

if he is undertaking you then you are in the wrong lane as you are not overtaking anything.

Yeh that was it, you idiot.

I was keeping up with the stop start 'flow' that is the M50 at rush hour evening traffic.

I have a 6 month old powerful car, but I refuse to use it as a battering ram for some brain dead scumbag. It would've been very easy for me to do that kind of messing but I don't want a written off car.

As it turns out, I've still had no phone call back from the guard I spoke to. I regret not taking his name but I will call Ronanstown station again before tomorrow evening if I have not heard back.

Anyway, regular users of the M50 (northbound) watch out for this piece of filth as he has more right than you to get home quicker and very little will get in his way. I encountered him at about 5.30pm.

Anan1

Big Balls wrote:

Yeh that was it, you idiot.

That's not exactly what I'd call an intelligent response to a fair point.

joeblogg1

Yep
Thats the traffic line to the cops alright

Only issue is I believe that if you report someone and the cops take them to court they will want you to appear as a witness in court. Hence day off work with no pay except for measly appearance expenses from court etc

joeblogg1

Agree wholeheartedly with PhoenixRising

The rules of the road are Keep Left Pass Right. It makes you no more holy sitting in the fast lane with nothing in the slow lane even though you are keeping to the speed limit.

No one made these people God and it is not their job to sit in the fast lane and enforce the speed limit. If anyone wants to travel faster on the dual carraigeway that is their choice. They are doing it in the full knowledge, as adults that they are travelling above the speed limit and no lay person should attempt to sit in the fast lane at the speed limit to hamper the progress of others. That is the job of the Gardai and such action usually only results in dangerous overtaking on the left .

Big Balls

Well I'll tell you what Anan, you try driving along minding your own business in a car you work hard for and see how happy you are when a scumbag decides he's going to try turn it into a piece of scrap yard gold and not only that but act like he's just done 10 rounds with Tyson and is still after more.. and then try to not get a little frustrated at a stupid comment like "oh it was your fault, he was able to undertake you".

And BTW just to that poster, open your rules of the road book, it clearly says that to undertake in a situation like I described is illegal.

Big Balls

PhoenixRising wrote:

@Big Balls

I'm assuming that you were following the traffic flow closely in the overtaking lane and not just sitting in the overtaking lane with nothing in front of you? If this was the case then he does sound like an ignorant prick.

Correct. I was keeping up with the traffic and as it happens, the two lanes were probably moving as fast as each other.

Agree with the rest of your post too.

Anan1

Big Balls wrote:

Well I'll tell you what Anan, you try driving along minding your own business in a car you work hard for and see how happy you are when a scumbag decides he's going to try turn it into a piece of scrap yard gold and not only that but act like he's just done 10 rounds with Tyson and is still after more.. and then try to not get a little frustrated at a stupid comment like "oh it was your fault, he was able to undertake you".

And BTW just to that poster, open your rules of the road book, it clearly says that to undertake in a situation like I described is illegal.

If you don't like his comment, then by all means tell us why you feel he was incorrect. He's not the one who cut in in front of you, he's just a poster making a point. For the record, if a car can overtake you on the left on a motorway without using the hard shoulder, then you really should consider the possibility that you may have been in the wrong lane.

Big Balls

He didn't have enough time to safely undertake me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was passing the traffic that was in the left lane albeit at not a great deal more due to traffic.

Please don't tell me I need to explain to you why the above comment was stupid - everyone else seems to have understood, you have a full licence and drive a car I take it??!!

I was perfectly entitled to be where I was positioned on the road!!!

irishpartyboy

kbannon wrote:

How did the gardai know to sit and wait for the driver to return from the west? Would they have sat there indefinitley for him then?

Well after the tip of from the law abiding motorist, I'm assuming they were keeping an eye out for him on the same stretch of road..so when they saw him, they pulled him and gave him a ticking off. He wasn't speeding at the time so they couldn't really do anything...

Also there's nothing out there to prevent a motorist with a grudge continously reporting another motorist they dont like?? So I'm assuming unless they get caught by cameras or gatsos then there's no evidence.

I've a few Garda mates and they have a serious phobia of "paperwork" and in cases like this just aren't bothered half the time. However at the end of the day, it depends on the individial Garda.

Anan1

Big Balls wrote:

He didn't have enough time to safely undertake me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was passing the traffic that was in the left lane albeit at not a great deal more due to traffic.

Please don't tell me I need to explain to you why the above comment was stupid - everyone else seems to have understood, you have a full licence and drive a car I take it??!!

I was perfectly entitled to be where I was positioned on the road!!!

Calm down. It's just a question, not a personal attack on you.

Big Balls

Perfectly calm, I'm trying to make you realise I was perfectly within my rights to be in the overtaking lane!

Anan1

I never said you weren't. The only point I'm making is that insulting other posters when they raise questions that you don't like is hardly helping your case. You tell us that this guy cut you up, but at the same time you're coming across as quite aggressive yourself.

Big Balls

Anan he didn't raise a question! He put up a stupid reply aimed at just stirring things..

Now if you've finished?

Anan1

hargo wrote:

if he is undertaking you then you are in the wrong lane as you are not overtaking anything.

This is what he said. You say "I was passing the traffic that was in the left lane albeit at not a great deal more due to traffic."

Now I suppose what we're wondering here is how someone could be overtaking you on the left at the same time as you were overtaking the traffic on your left?

Big Balls

Jesus Christ.. gimme strenght.

Anan, do you understand basic road etiquette or what??

Of course if you speed up and cut inside somebody forcing them to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting you you can undertake them.

Does that make it legal? Safe? Mean that the car having to avoid an accident was in the wrong lane? NO!

I'm starting to think you wouldn't even know where reverse in a car is. :rolleyes: