NWO - New World Order

qz

zzzzzzzz.......

tunaman

The NWO does exist and if you think anything has changed in human nature since the times of feudalism, WW2, etc then you are in denial. No person in a position of real power is going to get there without blood on his hands.

Bush Sr, Jr, Clinton, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Rockafellers, the Rothschilds, the elite banking interests, the weapons manufacturers...various political/religious and economic leaders around the world... these are the elites who scheme day and night for power and wealth.

You ask why they would want WW3... its not necesarily that WW3 is their goal, it is merely an eventuality. A means to an end. Population reduction is very much in their plans, they only need as many people alive as can serve them. They view us as ants, pawns on a chess-board, expendable commodities. If you think that any government leaders care about the people then you have a wakeup call from the real world due.

These people dont give two s***s about what is right or holy, they want power and have been in search of it for over 3 centuries. There have always been evil men who see no problem with stepping on the bones of their fellows to get ahead. Why would today be any different?

People think the NWO is so ridiculous and could never happen. This is because the average person is an ignorant, good person who believes that at heart everyone else is like them. This is the failing of most good people, they cannot recognize the real evil that can so consume a man.



The internet is the last real avenue of free speech, but for how much longer?

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12060.htm

02/24/06 Rumsfeld Zeros in on the Internet

Rumsfeld’s speech alerted his audience to the threats facing America in the new century.

He opined: “We meet today in the 6th year in what promises to be a long struggle against an enemy that in many ways is unlike any our country has ever faced. And, in this war, some of the most critical battles may not be in the mountains in Afghanistan or in the streets of Iraq, but in newsrooms—in places like New York, London, Cairo, and elsewhere.”

The Pentagon’s strategy for taking over the internet and controlling the free flow of information has already been chronicled in a recently declassified report, “The Information Operations Roadmap”; is a window into the minds of those who see free speech as dangerous as an “enemy weapons-system”.

The Pentagon is aiming for “full spectrum dominance” of the Internet. Their objective is to manipulate public perceptions, quash competing points of view, and perpetuate a narrative of American generosity and good-will.

Before Bush took office, “political rantings and musings about current events” were protected under the 1st amendment.

No more.

The War Department is planning to insert itself into every area of the Internet from blogs to chat rooms, from leftist web sites to editorial commentary. Their rapid response team will be on hair-trigger alert to dispute any tidbit of information that challenges the official storyline.

We can expect to encounter, as the BBC notes, “psychological operations (that) try to manipulate the thoughts and the beliefs of the enemy (as well as) computer network specialists who seek to destroy enemy networks.”

The enemy, of course, is anyone who refuses to accept their servile role in the new world order or who disrupts the smooth-operation of the Bush police-state.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

What is particularly foreboding and chilling in view of events to later unfold, is this statement bemoaning the lengthy process of rebuilding the existing U.S. military according to the heightened standards and specifications the PNAC aspired to:

"...the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."

aidan_walsh

I am the NWO.

tunaman

Like I said people are just ignorant and in denial.

The most important task of a conspiracy is to convince it's victims that their is no conspiracy.

aidan_walsh

tunaman wrote:

Like I said people are just ignorant and in denial.

The most important task of a conspiracy is to convince it's victims that their is no conspiracy.

And the most important task of your blue pills is to keep you balanced and able to function in society. You may want to reconsider quitting them.

Dooom

aidan_walsh wrote:

I am the NWO.

No you're not, you're from Kerry.

Anyway, surely it'd be a bit easier to say there is a conspiracy going on, then everyone'd just be all like:

"Ha, yeah sure."

Bit like what you're doing..ah paranoia. Never gets old.

tunaman

aidan_walsh wrote:

And the most important task of your blue pills is to keep you balanced and able to function in society. You may want to reconsider quitting them.

Under control you mean?

skywalker

Little known fact. Hulk hogan runs the new world order.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c6/180px-NWo.jpg

danniemcq

The NWO can hack a gibson

Terry

OP, put down those Dan Brown novels.

biko

tunaman wrote:

Like I said people are just ignorant and in denial.

Oh, ok. I guess I have to agree with you now, otherwise I'm in denial. And I don't want you think of me as ignorant.
Internet last post of free speech? As long as it's you speaking and us listening I guess...

DadaKopf

The bottom line is: power breeds power, wealth breeds wealth. If anyone thinks that the richest tycoons don't hook up and make babies (figuratively and literally), they're dreaming. They create public, private and secret alliances all over the place. And people in the lower echelons suck up to them to get a slice of the action? Why wouldn't they create these organisations? They feel they have to protect their interests.

Power at this level finds its way into everything - I recently found out that tobacco corporations infitrated the commission of smoking in the workplace to prevent the ban from happening. More recently, Monsanto stuck in a professional lobbyist onto the Irish delegation to the WTO by pretending she was a representative of 'Irish Biotech'.

I wouldn't call it a 'conspiracy theory', it's more than that. It's the foundation of the global economy. It's networks of power hooking up to maximise profits at the expense of society, health, the environment and all that.

I don't buy the whole lizards thing, though. Well... maybe.

Chong

Not forgetting Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.

Houston Griffin

Wasn't one of Ministry's better songs, imo.

Dave!

Short concise posts ftw!

slipss

lol well tunaman, leaving out all the science fictiony x-file crap, you are basically talking about capitalism, the form of gouvernment which is responsible for you having money and and a home and a job, what was your point again?

Ruaidhri

NWO?

slipss

but having said that its a catchy title, i would be absalutely amazed if there wasn't a tone deaf rock/nu metal band with that name.

Silverfish

slipss wrote:

but having said that its a catchy title, i would be absalutely amazed if there wasn't a tone deaf rock/nu metal band with that name.

There is a metal track by Ministry called 'New World Order'. It owns.

Terry

Willem D wrote:

Not forgetting Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.

credit where credit is due. scott hall was there first.
and that ministry song is good alright.

mayhem#

NWO= Not Without Orgasm....

E.

tunaman

How many people on here know about the secret society Skull And Bones?

Bush and Kerry have both admitted they are members so it is based on fact, therefore is a reality.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml

As opposite as George Bush and John Kerry may seem to be, they do share a common secret - one they've shared for decades, and one they will not share with the electorate.

The secret: details of their membership in Skull and Bones, the elite Yale University society whose members include some of the most powerful men of the 20th century.

Bonesmen, as they're called, are forbidden to reveal what goes on in their inner sanctum, the windowless building on the Yale campus that is called the Tomb.

When 60 Minutes first reported on Skull & Bones last October, conspiracy theorists, who see Skull and Bones behind just about everything that goes wrong, and even right, in the world, were relishing the unthinkable - the possibility of two Bonesman fighting it out for the presidency.

Over the years, Bones has included presidents, cabinet officers, spies, Supreme Court justices, captains of industry, and often their sons and lately their daughters, a social and political network like no other.

And to a man and women, they'd responded to questions with utter silence until an enterprising Yale graduate, Alexandra Robbins, managed to penetrate the wall of silence in her book, “Secrets of the Tomb,” reports CBS News Correspondent Morley Safer.

"I spoke with about 100 members of Skull and Bones and they were members who were tired of the secrecy, and that's why they were willing to talk to me,” says Robbins. “But probably twice that number hung up on me, harassed me, or threatened me.”

http://www.secretsofthetomb.com/

An excerpt from her book...

Skull and Bones has curled its tentacles into every reach of American society. This tiny club has set up networks that have thrust three members to the most powerful political position in the world. And its power is only increasing - the 2004 Presidential election might showcase the first time each ticket has been led by a Bonesman. The secret society now, as one historian admonishes, is "'an international mafia' . . . unregulated and all but unknown."

In its quest to create a New World Order that restricts individual freedoms and places ultimate power solely in the hands of a small cult of wealthy, prominent families, Skull and Bones has already succeeded in infiltrating nearly every major research, policy, financial, media, and government institution in the country. Skull and Bones, in fact, has been running the United States for years.

Monty - the one and only

first instinct was to delete this on sight... but as there seems to be some thought in some of the posts, ill leave it.... for now

mdebets

No, this NWO is just ga disguise, so that people aren't going to look for the real rulers of the world - the mice.

Terry

cop onto yourself. everyone knows the crab people are the real rulers.

tunaman

julep wrote:

cop onto yourself. everyone knows the crab people are the real rulers.

The following video has footage of Bush and Kerry being asked about Skull and Bones live on TV and of Bush sr talking about the NWO, so most of you are living in denial.

Go to 15:55 if you are too scared to watch the whole 20min video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6714356054823827684&q=secret+evil

Sharza-

Jesus I am sick of this. So called experts everywhere contradicting each other. Is it at all possible to get some totaly unbias actual logical demoltions/structural engineer / physics expert to tell us finally if the planes alone caused WTC to fall.

In that video its wierd how the lease owner of the WTC's seems to admit that WTC 7 was demolished intentionaly.

Having said that, it could be out of context bull**** reporting that we are being totally spoonfed constantly these days by both the conspricacy theorists, and the US government (& its defenders).


I have just one question though, since I cannot for the life of me be arsed to question anything else since I will be dazzled by bull**** from both sides.

Why crash two planes into the WTC. Seriously, generally terrorists (from my experience) have usualy been underdogs in terms of weaponry. They would be much more callous and effecient with what they had available. Parcel bombs, suicide bombers, car bombs, etc..

Why such an extravagent, dramatic, out of the blue show. Why go too such lengths to crash a plane into the pentagon, but end up hitting the empty part. Why didnt they do as much destruction as possible, like crash that plane headed for the pentagon, smack into the oval office window.

It was too holywood style

tunaman

Senator Mark Dayton asks some difficult, and very uncomfortable questions at 7:35 in the following video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1336167662031629480&q=painful+deceptions

Everybody should have a look at the video to see just how awkward and uncomfortable those questions are, and not just for the man asking them.

tunaman

Is ignoring the problem the only way people can deal with the awkward questions the Senator in the video asks?

"People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction". - James Baldwin

Puck

So what's your plan?

slipss

Is ignoring the problem the only way people can deal with the awkward questions the Senator in the video asks?

"People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction". - James Baldwin

Tunaman I'd actually be a subscriber to the theory that some of the worlds richest and most powerfull people stay in some kind or regular contact with each other because they move in similar circles, and I'm sure they do each other favours for favours in return, because sometimes they might happen to have shared interests and because for a lot of these people are well used to licking ass and sucking up to people and scratching each others backs as that is how they got to where they are today,

I just think your going a bit to far with the ideaoligy that once a month they all travel to area 51 and sit around a big table with a pentagram drawn on it in blood and listen to Dracula, Satan and Mary Harney give the latest policy on how to be evil and destroy the innocent.

Jesus take a couple of valium bud, I know that every night we have some troubles, but when you worry you make it double, don't worry, be happy.

tunaman

Puck wrote:

So what's your plan?

I'm trying to wake people up to the many contradictions and inconsistencies, which makes "the official story" not only improbable, but an impossibility.

Are you too scared to find out who was really behind 9/11?

The_Minister

Tunaman, I'm tracking you location.......see that big black helicopter behind you?

tunaman

Firespinner wrote:

Tunaman, I'm tracking you location.......see that big black helicopter behind you?

No.

You haven't even got the balls to watch the video of the Senator, have you?

tunaman

slipss wrote:

I just think your going a bit to far with the ideaoligy that once a month they all travel to area 51 and sit around a big table with a pentagram drawn on it in blood and listen to Dracula, Satan and Mary Harney give the latest policy on how to be evil and destroy the innocent.

You said that, not me. That sounds a bit like the Bohemian Grove.

edanto

slipps wrote:

I'd actually be a subscriber to the theory that some of the worlds richest and most powerful people stay in some kind or regular contact with each other because they move in similar circles, and I'm sure they do each other favours for favours in return, because sometimes they might happen to have shared interests...

Undeniable and necessary. A good deal of the tunaman post I think is OTT, but there's no denying that the states have a clear plan for continuing their economic/political dominance. Any why wouldn't they? Sure, isn't it in their national interest.

Wikipedia have a good description of it, apparently it was one of the pages that was often vandalised from Capitol Hill before they cut off Wiki editing rights from the US parliament.

What tunaman is saying about dominance of the web may be alarmist, but it's laid out in black and white in stuff that the neocons have published, such as

Project for the New American Century policy document, 2000 wrote:

Control of space and cyberspace. Much as control of the high seas – and the protection of international commerce – defined global powers in the past, so will control of the new “international commons” be a key to world power in the future. An America incapable of protecting its interests or that of its allies in space or the “infosphere” will find it difficult to exert global political leadership.

I disagree with them that American political influence is a 100% good thing for the majority of the people in the world, but I don't think that they would have stooped to carrying out 9/11. But they didn't exactly shy away from chances to exert military dominance with weak intelligence and justification. Their efforts at fighting a concept will cause untold sh!t for the rest of us, but let's not bring terrorism into this debate if we can help it.

For me, Dadakopf hit the nail on the head. This is all about money. The US has just about the most, in many measures - have a look at the attachment. If you can find an image on the web where the the area of each country is proportional to the proportion of GNP they have, you'll see how unbalanced things are. And they're not going to share it out equally, not if they can continue to set the world trade rules and political tempo. Are all you flippant posters cool with that or was that just 'coz this is in After Hours instead of politics? And no, it's not a conspiracy theory, just kinda the way things are.

For now.:)

Terry

For me, Dadakopf hit the nail on the head. This is all about money. The US has just about the most, in many measures - have a look at the attachment. If you can find an image on the web where the the area of each country is proportional to the proportion of GNP they have, you'll see how unbalanced things are. And they're not going to share it out equally, not if they can continue to set the world trade rules and political tempo. Are all you flippant posters cool with that or was that just 'coz this is in After Hours instead of politics? And no, it's not a conspiracy theory, just kinda the way things are.

not for much longer, if the petro-euro continues to rise. but that's debatable.

tunaman

edanto wrote:

but I don't think that they would have stooped to carrying out 9/11. But they didn't exactly shy away from chances to exert military dominance with weak intelligence and justification.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

But in that PNAC document was also the following...

"...the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."

Chilling is the word that springs to mind.

jimmycrackcorm

I won't believe in the NWo until I see my spell checker spell Anglicised words by their lazy American equivalents like Color.

Color
Color
Color - Damn!

StupidLikeAFox

God id love a tuna sandwich right now

the_syco

tunaman wrote:

The most important task of a conspiracy is to convince it's victims that their is no conspiracy.

This has gotta be the biggest load of BS [strike]we've[/strike]I've ever come across. [strike]We're[/strike] I'm going to just ignore it, and advise everyone else to do likewise. And no, [strike]we're[/strike]I'm not part of the NWO. Nothing to see here, move along now... [/sarc]

Puck

tunaman wrote:

I'm trying to wake people up to the many contradictions and inconsistencies, which makes "the official story" not only improbable, but an impossibility.

Are you too scared to find out who was really behind 9/11?

No, why would I be? But after you've "woken people up", then what? Just suppose everything you're saying is true, then what?

Goodshape

Puck wrote:

No, why would I be? But after you've "woken people up", then what? Just suppose everything you're saying is true, then what?

Then start shouting about it. Where are the answers to the questions raised by the Painful Deceptions documentary? (which, it does have to be said, is painfully repetitive at times).

Even without going all 'wacko' consipirecy theory on it, there's some fairly obvious issues which should be addressed. It's fairly obviously not a Boeing that hit the Pentagon. Building 7 shouldn't have collapsed. The twin towers (more than likely) shouldn't have collapsed.

Has nobody thought to ask Larry Silversteen (sp?) what he meant when he said 'pull it'?

The thing that I'm most skeptical of when I hear these theories is that surly of all the people you'd need to pull of an oporation like this, at least one of them is bound to have some sort of conscience.

And lets not forget Operation Northwoods. There's no fiction or theory there. It's real.

DapperGent

tunaman wrote:

How many people on here know about the secret society Skull And Bones?

Bush and Kerry have both admitted they are members so it is based on fact, therefore is a reality.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kang.

tunaman

Goodshape wrote:

Has nobody thought to ask Larry Silversteen (sp?) what he meant when he said 'pull it'?

Well he said it in a documentary called America Rebuilds. At a later date he claimed he meant to pull out the firefighters, but they never went into WTC building 7.

The thing that I'm most skeptical of when I hear these theories is that surly of all the people you'd need to pull of an oporation like this, at least one of them is bound to have some sort of conscience.

FBI Agent Slams Bosses at Moussaoui Trial

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060321/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui_13

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - The FBI agent who arrested Zacarias Moussaoui in August 2001 testified Monday he spent almost four weeks trying to warn U.S. officials about the radical Islamic student pilot but "criminal negligence" by superiors in Washington thwarted a chance to stop the 9/11 attacks.

Under questioning from MacMahon, Samit acknowledged that he had told the Justice Department inspector general that "obstructionism, criminal negligence and careerism" on the part of FBI headquarters officials had prevented him from getting a warrant that would have revealed more about Moussaoui's associates. He said that opposition blocked "a serious opportunity to stop the 9/11 attacks."

Samit's complaints echoed those raised in 2002 by Coleen Rowley, the bureau's agent-lawyer in the Minneapolis office, who tried to help get a warrant. Rowley went public with her frustrations, was named a Time magazine person of the year for whistleblowing and is now running for Congress.

Samit revealed far more than Rowley of the details of the investigation.

For each nugget of information, MacMahon asked Samit if Washington officials called to assess the implications. Time after time, Samit said no.

MacMahon introduced an Aug. 31 letter Samit drafted "to advise the FAA of a potential threat to security of commercial aircraft" from whomever Moussaoui was conspiring with.

But Maltbie barred him from sending it to FAA headquarters, saying he would handle that, Samit testified. The agent added that he did tell FAA officials in Minneapolis of his suspicions.

Kernel

slipss wrote:

lol well tunaman, leaving out all the science fictiony x-file crap, you are basically talking about capitalism, the form of gouvernment which is responsible for you having money and and a home and a job, what was your point again?

Actually I fully agree with what tunaman has said, he has clearly done more research into these topics than anyone else here who so easily dismisses his points as paranoia. Tunaman, I would point you to also check out Henry Kissinger (a long time big player in the NWO) and the trilateral commission. Such organisations as the trilateral commission, bohemia grove, council on foreign relations and bilderberg group are branches from the tree of the NWO. You would probably get less uninformed criticism in the conspiracy theories forum.

Capitalism is a system of control. A method for the few wealthy idividuals at the top of the pyramid to exert control over the masses which make up the larger bottom area of the pyramid. Wake up wage slave, and realise the modern day serfdom you are embroiled in. Having money and a home and a job are all possible without selling your soul to capitalism - a system unfairly stacked to favour those who already are rich and don't need to sell their labour and their lives to survive. A system which is responsible for pollution which is destroying our environment, and has caused millions to starve to death and die of easily treatable illnesses - all in order to protect market share and profit margin.

Capitalism, in it's current incarnation, is evil.

Dilly1

its those NWO bastards that make me have to get up for work every monday morning !!

Freelancer

Goodshape wrote:

Even without going all 'wacko' consipirecy theory on it, there's some fairly obvious issues which should be addressed. It's fairly obviously not a Boeing that hit the Pentagon.

Excuse me? Based on what? Your Non 737 had to fly over a eight lane highway before it hit the pentagon. It'd be like flying a missile over the redcow roundabout at nine 9am and telling everyone it was a plane.

Building 7 shouldn't have collapsed. The twin towers (more than likely) shouldn't have collapsed.

Again all the "blah blah blah" conspiracy theory evidence ignores the fact that all the stress models didn't factor in

a) a second plane hitting the second tower, and the resulting heat from that explosion.

b) that the planes would be full of fuel, accelerating, and aiming for the tower.

Tunaman I do so love how conspiracy theorists work, deriding government incompetence with one mouth, and then gullible believing that they are capable of the most elaborate and complext webs the next.

Cactus Col

There's the Bildeberg group, that meets once a year, and is made up of 100 of the most influential people from North America and Europe (hence 100 of the most influential people in the world!)

Which includes bankers, defence experts, royalty, heads of state, and mass media barons!

Goodshape

Freelancer wrote:

Excuse me? Based on what? Your Non 737 had to fly over a eight lane highway before it hit the pentagon. It'd be like flying a missile over the redcow roundabout at nine 9am and telling everyone it was a plane.

Yea. That's exactly what it's like. The one and only thing that makes me think it was a Boeing 737 is the fact that that's the offical word on the matter. Everything else I've seen or heard about the event leads me to believe it was something else. Have you watched any of the (many, many) doumentaries about it? Or are you just so certin that they couldn't possibly be lieing to us that you don't feel the need?

Again all the "blah blah blah" conspiracy theory evidence ignores the fact that all the stress models didn't factor in

a) a second plane hitting the second tower, and the resulting heat from that explosion.

b) that the planes would be full of fuel, accelerating, and aiming for the tower.

They do, in fact, take these details into account and many more -- such as the maximum tempature at which jet fuel burns being considerably lower that what is required to melt steal. And the fact that no fire in history has ever caused a building to collapse. There was no second, or even first, plane that hit Building 7. No 'resulting heat from that explosion', no 'accelerating, and aiming for the tower'. Why did it go down so uniformly?

Tunaman I do so love how conspiracy theorists work, deriding government incompetence with one mouth, and then gullible believing that they are capable of the most elaborate and complext webs the next.

I don't think he's ever said they are incompetent. Just bloody evil.

Freelancer

Goodshape wrote:

Yea. That's exactly what it's like. The one and only thing that makes me think it was a Boeing 737 is the fact that that's the offical word on the matter. Everything else I've seen or heard about the event leads me to believe it was something else. Have you watched any of the (many, many) doumentaries about it? Or are you just so certin that they couldn't possibly be lieing to us that you don't feel the need?

No see I have an e-mail dated the 12th of sept 2001 from friend of mine, a highly respected documentary editor (y'know someone who has a keen visual memory) who was in a traffic jam on the road by that side of the Pentagon who said she saw a jumbo jet crash into the pentagon. Along with several hundred people.

Literally the scenario presented by conspiracy theorists, is that at 9am infront of thousands of communters someone fired a missile into the pentagon and they all saw a plane.

They do, in fact, take these details into account and many more -- such as the maximum tempature at which jet fuel burns being considerably lower that what is required to melt steal. And the fact that no fire in history has ever caused a building to collapse. There was no second, or even first, plane that hit Building 7. No 'resulting heat from that explosion', no 'accelerating, and aiming for the tower'. Why did it go down so uniformly?

Because they don't factor in the force of the impact, the speed of the plane, the damage which caused the structural impact, and as for the no fire in history bit :rolleyes: how many builidng fires in history have been caused by flying a 737 at speed into such a tall structure?

Because no conspiracy theorist offers a more adequate explanation for what happened?

I don't think he's ever said they are incompetent. Just bloody evil.

Come off it government incompetence is legendary I'm just fascinated that you seem to think that organisations like the US government who screw up so regularly and massive corporations are into some vast conspiracy instead of applying Occum's razor.