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Bartronilic

The guy arrested is in two of my modules (anyone in first year bess/soc pol etc knows him and he has a ton of nicknames), everyone has a story to tell about him (mine is that he got kicked out of my tutorial once). Anyway, does anyone know why he was arrested?

europerson

Eh, what?

cuckoo

He was kicked out of a tutorial? What did he do?

Awayindahils

Bartronilic wrote:

The guy arrested is in two of my modules (anyone in first year bess/soc pol etc knows him and he has a ton of nicknames), everyone has a story to tell about him (mine is that he got kicked out of my tutorial once). Anyway, does anyone know why he was arrested?

is this sir spits alot? well thats my own name for him. spits during tutorials and lecturs, listens to his i-pod during lecturs and always misses the point of what the lecturer/ tutor is saying? he is in my politics tutorials.

Diablolical

sounds liek he was probally arested for being such a hard bsatard...schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Plunky

Arrest? What?

ilovemybrick

yeh saw the whole situation after it unfolded. 4 gárdaí were there. two security and a barman/buttery staff/randomer (not sure will have a chat with gerry later) standing off about twenty metres away. dermot had (i think) started a fight with him and security intervened. i only saw the aftermath but will get the whole story from gerry (who is the coolest security guard in the whole wide campus) tomorrow morning.

Stargal

What time did it happen at? We're going to mention it in TN but the Garda press office can't give us info until we know roughly what time it happened at.

Bartronilic

Roughly it was between 4 and 5 because i heard about it when i was supposed to be in a tutorial at that time (i'm so mad missing it :eek: ).

He WAS in my politics tutorial until he interrupted the tutor about 20 times, pulled down a projector screen out of nowhere and slagged feminism (which u don't do to a politics tuto).

I know 9 billion stories about him, some people say he's a hero beacuse of the entertainment we get from him.

(apparently the SEVEN policmen asked him was he on medication, he rplied "Yeah... lemsip").

ApeXaviour

So why was he arrested?

Bartronilic

Nobody knows but it seems like he fought a staff member (by looking at ilovemybrick's post). I think it is more serious because SEVEN guards and a van.

Ideo

just out of curiosity is this the same guy that sits in the computer room on the 4th floor of the arts block and curses, talks to himself, throws his shoes at the door, kicks the door! there some be some guy that shouts and stuff up there, i think there's something wrong with him. he's got really short hair, almost shaved? if its not him does anybody know who he is?

Bartronilic

That is DEFINITELY him! That's the one, the talk of the town... or campus

Time Magazine

Really aggressive looking guy? Intimidating, like?

I think I know the chap.

Guns 'N Roses hoodie guy?

Ideo

i dont know whether you would say aggressive looking. put it this way i wouldnt like to be caught staring at him for a while! and i apologise for the above post, was reading it and it doesn't make much sense! has he a split personality or something? i think there's something mentally wrong with him, i dont think he's just a trouble maker or anything

ilovemybrick

eeehhhhmmmm varying stories from the security lads i was talking to about it. but both VERY serious. i wont post because they're libelous but i cant see him being here next year anyway. oh and christine you are entitled to the Junior Dean report on any incident under freedom of information so look into that. id say that will be more detailed than what you will get from the Garda press office. and the incident happenend just before 4 but the original four gárdaí were there until almost twenty past and the van arrived shortly after with the other two gárdaí (the seventh which some people saw may have remained in the van i didnt see him/her).
and in answer to anyones questions as to who he is you're all right. he also came to a lecture a few weeks ago with one shoe on and the other foot wrapped in an exceptionally long scarf which went from around his neck down around his foot.
AAAANNNNDDD if your smart and can recognise him running you may be able to see him in some of the videos posted about last saturdays little incident.

John

I'm really intrigued. Someone PM me what happened, it's like Murder She Wrote meets One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Thirdfox

ilovemybrick wrote:

eeehhhhmmmm varying stories from the security lads i was talking to about it. but both VERY serious. i wont post because they're libelous but i cant see him being here next year anyway. oh and christine you are entitled to the Junior Dean report on any incident under freedom of information so look into that. id say that will be more detailed than what you will get from the Garda press office. and the incident happenend just before 4 but the original four gárdaí were there until almost twenty past and the van arrived shortly after with the other two gárdaí (the seventh which some people saw may have remained in the van i didnt see him/her).
and in answer to anyones questions as to who he is you're all right. he also came to a lecture a few weeks ago with one shoe on and the other foot wrapped in an exceptionally long scarf which went from around his neck down around his foot.
AAAANNNNDDD if your smart and can recognise him running you may be able to see him in some of the videos posted about last saturdays little incident.

I smell malicious inneundo but if you're right plead justification if it ever comes up...

Where can one find such copies of the incident featuring him last Saturday?

*edit - made my post less defamatory *

Ideo

most of the videos from last saturday are here

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=dublin+riots&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

can someone point out which one he's in? im very curious:)

Gileadi

guys just a pointer, i know for a fact a relation of the guy in question reads these boards and probably has seen this post so comments like

Diablolical wrote:

sounds liek he was probally arested for being such a hard bsatard...schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

probably aint the nicest to read

also i dunno how smart it is to be implying he was up to anything in the riots without any proof being provided

Thirdfox

^^^ Exactly so - but no-one is going to sue a student... they don't have any money!

Boston

Gileadi wrote:

guys just a pointer, i know for a fact a relation of the guy in question reads these boards and probably has seen this post so comments like probably aint the nicest to read

also i dunno how smart it is to be implying he was up to anything in the riots without any proof being provided

If you've seen someone in a picture rioting, then you've seen them rioting. Also the guy sounds liek a complete tool/looper.

Gileadi

but could they do something to our beloved boards

Thirdfox

Such as? The moderators will protect us surely

Gileadi

LiouVille wrote:

If you've seen someone in a picture rioting, then you've seen them rioting. Also the guy sounds liek a complete tool/looper.

fair enough if you see them,but to say that you seen something and offer no proof could get you into hot water is my point

eg i could say that i seen you having intercourse with a donkey and however untrue (well for your sake i hope its untrue ) without any proof its just slander/libelous (i dunno im no lawyer)

Thirdfox

Libel = written (permanent form) slander = vocal (transient form) (free legal advice?!? you won't find that often )

Gileadi

when i get done for manslaughter for engineering a dodgy bridge in the future i know where im coming

Thirdfox

Don't worry, most coporate manslaughter cases never go the way of plaintiffs Remember the rail track situation in England or the Irish(?) Ferries case?

xeduCat

ilovemybrick wrote:

oh and christine you are entitled to the Junior Dean report on any incident under freedom of information so look into that.

No, no, no, no, no, you're not. You're entitled to request such a report under the FOI law. You're not entitled to receive it.

There are various exemptions written into the Act(s), to cover issues such as the protection of privacy, commercial confidentiality, security, the interests/rights of others, etc. Now there are limits to the limits - i.e. a right to appeal, and so on - but it's wrong to assume that just because a record exists, and a body is subject to being FOIed, that you have an entitlement to receive it. In most cases, yes you will receive what you ask for, but not always.

In addition, there is a difference between requests related to your own personal information and a general request.

ilovemybrick

xeduCat wrote:

No, no, no, no, no, you're not. You're entitled to request such a report under the FOI law. You're not entitled to receive it.

ah booouuurrrnnss.

Thirdfox wrote:

^^^ Exactly so - but no-one is going to sue a student... they don't have any money!

yes none of the students in trinity have any money........

LiouVille wrote:

If you've seen someone in a picture rioting, then you've seen them rioting

i said "if your smart".

Thirdfox

The students don't have money... their parents do!

Pet

Someone PM me the story/allegations too.

DrIndy

me too, I'm curious...

Pm me as well please.I know im in galway but not much has happened in nuig lately apart from somebodt having their ear bit off and another lad went diving in four foot water and is in national spine unit in beaumount.

ISAW

Thirdfox wrote:

Libel = written (permanent form) slander = vocal (transient form) (free legal advice?!? you won't find that often )

There is also defamation and innuendo. Those are legal terms. It is really not on to claim something which is subject to criminal law for three reasons:

1. It might not be true.
2. I might affect the actual proceedings.
3. It might be true and do 2 ie it is sub judice.

5 what happened to 4
4 Oh there it is
F: How come it is suddenly gone alphabetical?
G: This is the penultimate point.

ISAW

xeduCat wrote:

In addition, there is a difference between requests related to your own personal information and a general request.

Isnt that under the Data Protection Act and not FoI?

BTW Whatever happened to the "new" disciplinary procedures?

ilovemybrick

ISAW wrote:

BTW Whatever happened to the "new" disciplinary procedures?

not a lot. another review is under way. aaaannnddd supposed to be in use as of next year.

Bartronilic

pm me what happened

Agent Smith

i would also like this pm....

Nietzschean

i would like people to stop requesting these pm's, its bleeding annoying

Edwardius

ARRR, me too.

Nietzschean wrote:

i would like people to stop requesting these pm's, its bleeding annoying

Aw shut it, less of your menstrual utterances Boyo .

Nietzschean

so you like reading pretty much a page of requests for pm's?

Barry Aldwell

It occurs to me that people could request these pms......wait for it.....via pm!

Edwardius

Nietzschean wrote:

so you like reading pretty much a page of requests for pm's?

If it's in the name of idle scandal, yes!

Right_Side

Bartronilic wrote:

pm me what happened

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Time Magazine

Add me to the list too.

Me too please........ sorry

shay_562

How many more requests for PMs do you reckon we can get through before Nietzschean gets pissed and locks the thread? I'm gonna guess...4. Or 3 now, since this is my roundabout way of asking for one too.

I want in...
PM me as well!!

ilovemybrick

right well seeing as pms are just as bad as posts when you dont actually know who the people (its not just that i dont trust you all) are i have decided to send no more pms yet about it yet. clarification is but a few moments conversation away. perhaps then.

xeduCat

ISAW wrote:

Isnt that under the Data Protection Act and not FoI?

Not quite.

Warning: off topic shpiel about to begin.

Data protection is about your own information, yeah - but FoI applies to both. The main difference between personal info and general info under Freedom of Information is that you have to pay for the latter but not for the former. Also, the restrictions are naturally tighter on general stuff. In addition, you have a right to have personal info corrected (there's a similar right under Data Protection, along with lots of other stuff), and a right to receive reasons for a decision affecting you - these don't apply to general requests for info just because you're interested.

Also, data protection applies generally (i.e. including private companies); FoI only applies to the bodies on an exclusive list created by law (amended every now and again to add more).

Further info on both laws:
http://www.oic.gov.ie/en/ (Freedom of Information)
http://www.dataprotection.ie (Data Protection)

These websites are run by the respective 'commissioners', and have lots of non-legal guides (as well as the full Acts) - they are also generally quite helpful if you have a query (phone or email) about how to get access to information.

BTW Whatever happened to the "new" disciplinary procedures?

BD/05-06/159 Statute on Student Discipline The Board noted that the Visitors had approved the Ordinance to amend Chapter VII, Section 13 and Chapter XII, Section 23 and agreed that the date for implementation of the regulations will be 1 November 2006.

(Board minutes)