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The Great Big 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Thread [Megamerge]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Tellox


    An aeroplane hitting the pentagon how it did is unbelievable, stupid, and would take an idiot to believe. Thankfully, The victims in the prank were america, so not many eyebrows were raised. And if you didnt believe the official far-fetched story involving black boxes vaporising and passports withstanding the blast, youre unpatriotic scum.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=Loose+Change+2nd+Edition&pl=true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,245 ✭✭✭drdre


    Tellox wrote:
    An aeroplane hitting the pentagon how it did is unbelievable, stupid, and would take an idiot to believe. Thankfully, The victims in the prank were america, so not many eyebrows were raised. And if you didnt believe the official far-fetched story involving black boxes vaporising and passports withstanding the blast, youre unpatriotic scum.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=Loose+Change+2nd+Edition&pl=true
    Yes you are right, its bloody americans who are the dumbass.well im not thick.i can see its not a plane but bush might think it is.i swear to god i donot know how he became president.the is proper thick;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Tellox


    Well, that was a little unfair of me - not ALL americans are thick. But the one's believing this story are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Tellox


    Watched the vids, still utter bull****.
    No clear depiction of an aeroplane at all, video only shows stills every couple of seconds - why is it that the security center of the most powerful country in the world's security camera's only show stills every couple of seconds?

    Nothing new here at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭Squaddy


    Is it jus me but did anyone notice the building flaming up before that object hit it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Guys of course the American media are going to portray this is the definitive proof that it was a 757 hit the pentegon (even though we all can plainly see there is NO evidence here), they cant say otherwise as GE (General Electronics) owns most of the major networks (including news) in the US and they are making an absolute fortune out of the Iraq war, so its in there favor. And British TV, will of course rally with its American counterparts and claim the same thing.

    They claim this clip should put all conspiracy theories to rest.........I think all its done is refreshed the situation in peoples minds, there are LOTS more questions that need answering, and I cant believe how Americans are sitting back and for the most part doing nothing, how they could be so blind to all this!

    I guess they will all sleep peacefully now after seeing that footage, and having there minds put at rest.

    And you know what else, no matter how bad we might think this country is at times, thank god we have some form of a civalised goverment who wouldnt have us believe what the American goverment are shoveling out to there people.

    CroppyBoy1798


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    LOL

    What an excellent argument ! Bollox.

    Take a look at the vid thats just been released (its on cnn.com) and show me where the 777 is on the clip ?? In case you're not sure how big a 777 is, its about the size of 10 semi detached gaffs in length....so if you can see that on the vid you are a better man than me.

    - The Pentagon decided to send a missile into it's own building killing 170 of it's own people. Yeah. Right.
    - A missile took down the place, and it just happened to crash into the Pentagon when it came down. On the same day that that 19 terrorists slammed planes into the Twin Towers/Pennsylvania field. What a coincidence! Yeah. Right.
    - There was no plane, just a missile. Meanwhile, the people on the plane are now living on a secret island in the middle of the pacific. Yeah. Right.


    [snip]please dont be calling people idiots only starts arguments , detracts from main topic, ta - miju [/snip]


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    they cant say otherwise as GE (General Electronics) owns most of the major networks (including news) in the US and they are making an absolute fortune out of the Iraq war, so its in there favor.

    Fecking conspiracy nuts. Don't let lies get in the way of a good story, eh lads?

    Now when you say most of the networks, what you'd really be meaning is one, no? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_General_Electric . Inform yourself about things or don't bother trying to stir to be honest.*

    *And before you say "no Noel, Telemundo is another network". Firstly, no it isn't, its parent company is NBC and, secondly, two networks still isn't nearly the same as "most networks" now, is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    ReefBreak wrote:
    - The Pentagon decided to send a missile into it's own building killing 170 of it's own people. Yeah. Right.
    - A missile took down the place, and it just happened to crash into the Pentagon when it came down. On the same day that that 19 terrorists slammed planes into the Twin Towers/Pennsylvania field. What a coincidence! Yeah. Right.
    - There was no plane, just a missile. Meanwhile, the people on the plane are now living on a secret island in the middle of the pacific. Yeah. Right.

    Grow up you idiots.


    Mate, take a look at 'Loose Change' it might just make you think......you never know.

    Killing people, ie Americans may have been part of the plan, ie to ignite a great sence of patriotism and a mad frenzy to serve justice on the culprits in revenge.

    Perhaps a missile was sent into the Pentegon on purpose. Why was there just a single hole in the building?? No wings, no engines, no tail section, and NO damage on the exterior where these would have struck, just the hole. But then they would have us believe that the engines, made of steel and titanium vapourised on impact (not possible)...YET...they could identify the majority of bodies on the plane. Yeah, right!

    The events at the WTC and Pennslyvania still do not add up so they cant yet be compared to the Pentegon, the terrorists.....you know some of them are still alive, right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    Perhaps a missile was sent into the Pentegon on purpose. Why was there just a single hole in the building?? No wings, no engines, no tail section, and NO damage on the exterior where these would have struck, just the hole. But then they would have us believe that the engines, made of steel and titanium vapourised on impact (not possible)...YET...they could identify the majority of bodies on the plane. Yeah, right!
    Can you please tell me where all the passengers that were on the plane are right now? Trapped on an island somewhere? Shot dead and buried in a field when the plane landed? What happened to the plane itself? Stored in an underground-complex-from-a-James-Bond-film-style area in South America?

    I'll say it again, if you believe the missile theory, you are a fool, and you should genuinely feel embaressed for yourself..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Like I said, look up 'Loose Change' on You Tube or Google Video. That'll explain it all to you.

    If I'm a fool, then so be it, but at least I'm a fool thats looked at both sides of the story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    you know some of them are still alive, right
    This is another theory is it? Let me guess, they were mutants grown in a CIA lab somewhere with powers to survive the heat of a fireball produced by a plane-load of burning fuel. Am I close?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Mate, I'm thinking your just trolling now.

    The BBC did an investigation, I think 9 of the 'alledged' hi-jackers are still alive and well, but hey, thats not my theory, its the BBC's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    If I'm a fool, then so be it, but at least I'm a fool thats looked at both sides of the story.
    You are fool if you think there was no plane, or that a missile brought down the plane. So at least you admit it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    This is the released Pentagon security tape in film strip sequence.


    I would really like if someone could point out the plane, pls k thx.



    my.php?image=cam16rm.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Careful Silverfish....you risk being branded a fool, lol.

    I cant see a plane there, they obviously chopped out frames.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    Mate, I'm thinking your just trolling now.

    The BBC did an investigation, I think 9 of the 'alledged' hi-jackers are still alive and well, but hey, thats not my theory, its the BBC's.
    You believe that a load of passengers and a plane just vanished into thin air, and I'm the own that's trolling?

    The BBC did an investigation that showed 9 of the hijackers were alive? What programme was it? When was it on? Something tells me it wasn't an Horizon special, that's for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    ReefBreak ----> LOOSE CHANGE


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    Silverfish wrote:
    This is the released Pentagon security tape in film strip sequence.


    I would really like if someone could point out the plane, pls k thx.



    my.php?image=cam16rm.jpg
    Simple video technology lesson here guys: In order to save space, security cameras have a fairly slow frame rate. It simply didn't have time to catch the plane before it hit the building. Never mind, I'm sure all the passengers were explained all this when they arrived on their desert island. Just before they were told they could never see their family or friends again, and just after they were told they were part of a conspiracy that caused the deaths of over 3000 americans.

    This thread is typical of the worst of "intelligent" debate (or lack of) on the internet.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    ReefBreak wrote:
    You believe that a load of passengers and a plane just vanished into thin air, and I'm the own that's trolling?

    The BBC did an investigation that showed 9 of the hijackers were alive? What programme was it? When was it on? Something tells me it wasn't an Horizon special, that's for sure.


    If you can quit yelling like a kid that's had too much sugar, and actually pay attention to what is being said to you instead of just quoting people and yelling random stuff, watch the Loose Change video.

    In fact, Here it is again, just for you.

    To save you having to click that troublesome '1' to get back to the first page.

    Now, most of the questions you're asking people here are dealt with in this video, we've all watched it, and I presume people like me who have seen it are sick trying to answer questions for people who haven't bothered to watch it.

    Now, to pre-empt your next little outburst, I'm sure not everyone believes Loose Change to be the utter truth but it does raise a few valid questions, and does inspire people to think a bit more about what happened.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    ReefBreak ----> LOOSE CHANGE
    I look forward to watching it. What BBC programme showed that 9 of the hijackers were still alive?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 850 ✭✭✭DOLEMAN


    ReefBreak, although it does seem odd that a missile/etc was the thing that hit the Pentagon, being so absolutely closed to the idea is a bit extreme I think.

    While I don't have the "it's defo a conspiracy" view of most of the people here, I'm open to it, and do believe the current US government is capable of doing horrible things to it's own people. Remember, God speaks directly to Bush!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    NoelRock I'd appreciate it if you didnt refer to me as a "Fecking conspiracy nut". Last time I checked Ireland was a free country, where we have our own opinions, and if you can prove to me without a shadow of a doubth that what happened on September 11th was all above board and there was no room for a conspiracy theory of any sort then dont put such a title on me.

    Cheers ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Do check it out Reef, the BBC documentary is talked about in 'Loose Change' and credited.

    I'm not saying a missile did without doubth hit it, but what I dont believe are the facts. I'm leaning more to the side that something sinister happened and as Doleman said, I believe that the American goverment were capable of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭Jammer


    Now i'm not a mad conspiricy thoerist myself, but if you look at the second video on the judicial website, and look at the car, and notice its scale.

    Then when the 'plane' hits, it looks only about 3 or 4 times bigger then the car. A boeing plane should look 200/300 times bigger i think.

    Just a thought.
    ReefBreak wrote:
    I'm sorry, but the levels of intelligence really appear to have dropped since I last posted here. There is NO massive conspiracy here. The US let it's guard down, a plane was hijacked by a bunch of terrorists and flown into the Pentagon building. That's it.

    Next you'll be telling me that thousands of jewish New Yorkers managed somehow to keep the 9/11 plot all to themselves and called in sick on that day. Please.

    Anyone that believes any conspiracy theory about the Pentagon has no right to ever call an American "stupid". In fact, I have a tasty pyramid scheme that I think you might be interested in. No really, send your cash to:
    Morons Only,
    5 Idiot Street,
    Thicksville,
    Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    the BBC documentary is talked about in 'Loose Change' and credited
    And what documentary was it? Do you have a name? You know, I think you'll find that the BBC would have made a much bigger deal of a documentary that stated that it had uncovered the biggest scandal in US history..."In other news, the BBC have today found alive 9 of the 9/11 hijackers. Turns out the whole thing was just a massive con by the US government to wage war in the Middle East. Here's Jane with the weather."

    I'm sorry, but if that's the sort of thing that Loose Change is referring to, then you should really check your viewing habits.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,341 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    It does not look like one. 2. It is soo small. Its the size of a missile or a small corporate jet.

    Doesn't look like anything not an airplane either.

    It looks small because of perspective and the effects on lenses. If you've never been to the Pentagon (I have), you don't get a sense of scale. It's the largest single office building in the world. It's massive. Each wall is the length of an aircraft carrier. It would make a 747 look small, let alone a twin-jet.

    NTM


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    I give up mate, lol, I've tried my best to have a civil discussion but you have your own opinions on the matter and thats fair enough of course, but you should always view a story from all sides, take in both the positive and negative aspects before you can make a final summary.

    Loose Change is pretty good, and raises many questions which would make you think, I can guarnetee you that. Check it out if you have an hour and twenty mins to spare ;)

    Good luck,

    CroppyBoy1798


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    meh, doesn't prove anything one way or another.

    This video wont stop any of the conspiracy theories. It is amazing that there is no footage of the plane hitting the pentagon, considering what the building actually is. Would have thought there would be 100's of cameras covering the building and surronding area for security reasons. Just one video showing the plane would put all of this to rest. The lack of any plane wreckage around the building is also amazing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭dloob


    You'd be surprised what even a field can do to an airplane never mind a military building
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Eagle_4184_crashsite.jpg

    Unless it's the 5 jew bankers behind it all.


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