N4 since the toll road opened

Bogger77

Lucan - Leixlep - Maynooth-Kilcock- Then follow the N4 signs.

mackerski

Bogger77 wrote:

Lucan - Leixlep - Maynooth-Kilcock- Then follow the N4 signs.

Don't do that unless you also want to avoid the free section of motorway.

Dermot

Bogger77

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

It used to be known as the T3.

But it's still signposted as the N4 with Green signs.

http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/routes/ - click the box to avoid motorways.

That 80 Kmph section would be an ideal candidate for 2+1 as it's wide enough. Instead much of it has a central rservation of white hatching. Took about 27 minutes to bypass the tolled section of motorway on Friday.

Unfortunately Kildare and Westmeath CoCo's have ensured for the last 5 or 6 years that the N4-N6 route from Rochfordbridge to Kilcock has been at 50mph/80kph. The only sections of 100kph are in Meath. From my recollection, there's just as high accident rate on both sections. 27minutes from Kinnegad to Kilcock would appear to be about right, it's 18miles.

Bogger77

mackerski wrote:

Don't do that unless you also want to avoid the free section of motorway.

Dermot

They asked to avoid motorway, guessing L plates.

mackerski

Bogger77 wrote:

They asked to avoid motorway, guessing L plates.

Sure enough - the thread title had me focused on the word "toll".

Dermot

Bogger77

it's def the slow road. Maynooth can be a bitch to get through, but Leixlep is a nightmare seemingly

Tom Dunne

They are doing up the Salmon Leap bridge on the Dublin side of Leixlip, there are temporary traffic lights in place and it is a pain to get through.

Having said that Maynooth and Kilcock aren't exactly plain sailing either.

Imposter

Bogger77 wrote:

Unfortunately Kildare and Westmeath CoCo's have ensured for the last 5 or 6 years that the N4-N6 route from Rochfordbridge to Kilcock has been at 50mph/80kph. The only sections of 100kph are in Meath. From my recollection, there's just as high accident rate on both sections. 27minutes from Kinnegad to Kilcock would appear to be about right, it's 18miles.

Rochfortbridge to Kinnegad should be at 80kph. That road is awful and there are a lot of houses and entrances along it.

icdg

Indeed, the building of the Great Wall of Leixlip (an upgrade of the Salmon Leap Bridge which is proeeding at an extraordinarly snails pace) has a stop-go on the bridge a good chunk of the time.

Don't go looking for any N4 signs in Leixlip or Maynooth. You won't find any, what signage there is in Leixlip village (and incredible there is still no directional signage at the town's main junction, Captain's Hill, even though its the split between the R148 and R149) is practically all R-road white. There was never much N4 signage in the first place IIR.

spacetweek

icdg wrote:

Indeed, the building of the Great Wall of Leixlip (an upgrade of the Salmon Leap Bridge which is proeeding at an extraordinarly snails pace) has a stop-go on the bridge a good chunk of the time.

Don't go looking for any N4 signs in Leixlip or Maynooth. You won't find any, what signage there is in Leixlip village (and incredible there is still no directional signage at the town's main junction, Captain's Hill, even though its the split between the R148 and R149) is practically all R-road white. There was never much N4 signage in the first place IIR.

Haven't been round Leixlip way in a long time, which bridge is the Salmon Leap Bridge? Is it the smelly one beside the chipper or the one as you enter the town from Lucan? What work is being done?

Bogger77

Imposter wrote:

Rochfortbridge to Kinnegad should be at 80kph. That road is awful and there are a lot of houses and entrances along it.

It's road surface quality has only gone downhill since the reduction of speed on it. No new house went up on it, and the accident rate on that road was never that bad. The CoCo have used the 80kph limit to avoid doing the simple things like leveling the margins of the road with the main road surface, drainage works and the like. The condition of the road through all Westmeath's towns on the N6, apart from Moate is brutal, Miltownpass and Tyrellspass in particular.

spacetweek

Bogger77 wrote:

It's road surface quality has only gone downhill since the reduction of speed on it. No new house went up on it, and the accident rate on that road was never that bad. The CoCo have used the 80kph limit to avoid doing the simple things like leveling the margins of the road with the main road surface, drainage works and the like. The condition of the road through all Westmeath's towns on the N6, apart from Moate is brutal, Miltownpass and Tyrellspass in particular.

True but will be a moot (moate?) point within about 2 years.

Tom Dunne

spacetweek wrote:

which bridge is the Salmon Leap Bridge? Is it the smelly one beside the chipper or the one as you enter the town from Lucan?

tom dunne wrote:

They are doing up the Salmon Leap bridge on the Dublin side of Leixlip

westtip

Saruman wrote:

Has anyone noticed (and it may have been posted) that once the new M4 toll way opened the speed limit on the N4 dropped from 100 to 80 along the whole stretch until after Kinnegad?

It used to be 100 from Kilcock then dropping to 80 on the way to enfield then 100 from Enfield.. then it alternated between the two for a while until Kinnegad.
Its like they are forcing drivers on to the overpriced motorway by making it illegal for them to drive at 100kph on a long straight stretch of road when it was perfectly safe before the motorway.

You are dead right, why do you think they put traffic lights on the Enfield "by-pass", you will also notice on the old N4 the road has been narrowed by the extended use of a painted no go area in the middle of the raod for much of the section past Mother Hubbards (which by the way must have lost a lot of business), I use the motorway as an occasional user, and it enables me to finish the journey quickly to the East Coast, or make a good quick start on the way out West (one hour from Greystones to the Covert just north of Mullingar - with Motorway dual/carriageway for 71 miles from Bray, now the M4 to Mullingar and the southern section of the M50 are finished it takes so much of the misery out of the journey to the west. But I did use the old road recently and noticed the additional chevrons in the road and the lower speed limit. I would be interested if regular daily commuters from points West of Kilcock are using the motorway at 2.50 each way it will add 25 euro a week to the cost of commuting - is it worth it if you live in say Enfield, or Kinnegad for the ten minutes you save each way every day. What's it like in the morning at say 7.45, are the regulars using the motorway or the old N4? Just interested to hear