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Do you believe in astrology???

  • 20-02-2006 10:52pm
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    are you a believer of horoscopes and astrology and compatibility in relation to star signs?

    I have had a few accurate predictions in the last while or so and a tarot card reader i went to was extremely accurate a good few times

    so are you a believer?
    do you check your star sign if something important like an event or anything like that is coming up?
    do you check your spouses /partner star signs to see if your star-crossed lovers meant to be or destined to kill/annoy on another forever?

    Or do you think its all purely a coincidence and think people who believe it are believing that they want so to speak?

    would like views/opinions and experiences shared as curious to find out?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    No, i don't believe in any of it.
    All horoscopes are written so vague that anyone can interpret in their own way and thus believe in it.
    If that makes sense...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    no
    rb_ie wrote:
    All horoscopes are written so vague that anyone can interpret in their own way and thus believe in it.
    If that makes sense...
    makes more sense than they do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    Oh god no.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    No because

    - it's unlucky to be superstitious

    - and besided precession means the signs are not where they used to be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    no


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    astrology. almost as big a scam as organised religion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭ronbyrne2005


    its all unscientific bull,but many otherwise intelligent women seem to beleive it more so than men. also women seem to be far more likely to beleive in angels and all that supernatural bull.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,386 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    It's a load of my arse. The good predictions are just the same tricks used by so called psychics that work with gullible people that can attach a meaning to the vaguest of descriptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭The Free Man


    - it's unlucky to be superstitious

    classic :D


    yeah, my starsign said i shouldnt believe in astrology..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    The only astrology I believe in is The Onion horoscopes. Here's this weeks...

    Aries March 21 - April 19

    Your recent declaration of love for women of all shapes and sizes may sound tolerant and open-minded to others, but the stars haven't forgotten that
    women also come in a variety of ethnicities.

    Taurus April 20 - May 20

    Despite having been hummed hundreds of times before, the old saw "Home is where you hang your hat" will once again seem fresh when Manitoba police investigators catch sight of your cold, lifeless body dangling from the living-room fan.

    Gemini May 21 - June 21

    You will finally be able to deal with the reality of your husband's passing this week, after 15 years spent slowly and gleefully savoring it as a fantasy.

    Cancer June 22 - July 22

    As convenient as it may be, it's time you started taking some responsibility for the mess you've created instead of always blaming everything on the law of entropy.

    Leo July 23 - August 22

    The stars hate to have to be the ones to break this news to you, but while it is true that it only takes a single million-dollar idea to strike it rich, your box of paperclips retailing for $1 million is not it.

    Virgo August 23 - September 22

    You won't be able to believe your incredible luck this week when the 6-year-old boy you lure down into your basement seems completely oblivious to the age-of-consent laws in the state of Montana.

    Libra September 23 - October 23

    While your friends always tell you that you are inconsiderate for failing to call women the day after sex, they rarely praise you for how frequently you call the day after phone sex.

    Scorpio October 24 - November 21

    You've long boasted that there's never a dull moment in the MidWestern Medco mail room, but that will all change next week when a round of hijinks with the office copier goes horribly awry, generating a stasis field that envelops the entire third floor.

    Sagittarius November 22 - December 21

    Thomas Edison famously described success as 1 percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration, which leaves you 1 percent away from succeeding in getting off the couch.

    Capricorn December 22 - January 19

    Your friends and family members have often compared you to a china doll, but the resemblance will be uncanny next week when your limbs are shattered and your head is broken loose.

    Aquarius January 20 - February 18

    As the proud father of four healthy sons and one beautiful daughter, you will feel like the richest man in the world next week, after selling each for a hefty sum on the Bolivian black market.

    Pisces February 19 - March 20

    Although you've never had any particular interest in rodents—aquatic or otherwise—you'll soon become an expert in all of the many different ways that Canadian ditch muskrats defend themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    I got a book on my star sign once as a present.....the opening line was "Aquarians are one of the most changeable signs in the zodiac & so cannot be categorised as they can have the traits and personalities of any of the other signs" - summed up my view of astrology & book went in the bin! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    The only astrology I believe in is The Onion horoscopes. Here's this weeks...

    Virgo August 23 - September 22

    You won't be able to believe your incredible luck this week when the 6-year-old boy you lure down into your basement seems completely oblivious to the age-of-consent laws in the state of Montana.

    .

    I ****ing saw this one!!! How sick can you get. People burn down buildings over a dumb cartoon and yet this is supposed to be funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Astrology would be good if it weren't for the every 1 in twelve of the population who will share my star sign prediction of winning the lottery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭Cosine


    I dont believe either. It'd be nice and convenient if it was true but like they said its left so vague that it could mean I am going to win the lotto or develope cancer :v:

    @coolsmileygirl: aparently its all to do with the mentality that you have. If you go in with belief that its all true then when you get your reading you will go out and make it happen.

    Course that begs the question of what happens when you think its all hooey and it does happen :eek:
    Thomas Edison famously described success as 1 percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration, which leaves you 1 percent away from succeeding in getting off the couch.

    Classic


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In relation to a partner compatibity would you take their starsign into account

    I find the characteristic traits founds in signs such as Leo etc, nearly always match that of the person


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    In relation to a partner compatibity would you take their starsign into account

    I find the characteristic traits founds in signs such as Leo etc, nearly always match that of the person


    Enough to get you into bed with them?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    I find it interesting, Iv always wanted to look deeper into it.. (its on my to do list) :rolleyes: Some people live their lives by the Zodiac, an old woman who comes in to clean our office was yapping to me about it one day and a lot of the things she was able to tell me about myself and my partner just from our star signs was fascinating...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    no. but its just as likely to be true as any other belief, including science.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    xzanti wrote:
    I find it interesting, Iv always wanted to look deeper into it.. (its on my to do list) :rolleyes: Some people live their lives by the Zodiac, an old woman who comes in to clean our office was yapping to me about it one day and a lot of the things she was able to tell me about myself and my partner just from our star signs was fascinating...


    They've done studies you know. Sixty percent of the time, it works everytime.
    :v:


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    it's unlucky to be superstitious
    :confused:


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    xzanti wrote:
    I find it interesting, Iv always wanted to look deeper into it.. (its on my to do list) :rolleyes: Some people live their lives by the Zodiac, an old woman who comes in to clean our office was yapping to me about it one day and a lot of the things she was able to tell me about myself and my partner just from our star signs was fascinating...


    So if someone was to make up a list of certain things about yourself and your partner that would attract you to each other and conflict with one another would you take heed to it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭dalk


    I dont believe in astrology mainly because it was just made up a few thousand years ago. But more reasons would be:

    Astrology comes from a time when a lot of people believed that Earth was the center of the universe (since proved wrong i think). Hence all the Mars is in retrograd guff.

    If the planets of this solar system affect people on earth, how come they hadn't guessed at the planets that were found in more recent times, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto (and the new one thats even bigger than Pluto). They must have an affect on people just like the other planets?

    Isn't there a 13th sign of the zodiac as well that is somehow conveniently overlooked? Maybe so it fits the 12 month calendar better maybe?

    Also, the position of the earth (and the constellations) has moved since the zodiac constellations were set thousands of years ago. This means that all the signs are now incorrect. But are still right?

    How come identical twins dont have the exact same life?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    /me looks into a crystal ball.

    Yes, you probably will pull tonight...again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    In relation to a partner compatibity would you take their starsign into account

    I find the characteristic traits founds in signs such as Leo etc, nearly always match that of the person

    Stars are huge balls of hydrogen which is converted into energy, like a huge fusion reactor. After a few billion years, they go out. There are new stars being born and other starts dying across the universe as we speak.
    We may never see them or, by the time we see them (i.e. by the time their light arrives at Earth), we'll be dead.
    Or by the time we see the light of their creation, they'll have gone out.

    Do the ones which have been created only recently, which we still cannot see (again their light has not yet arrived here), have an effect on astrology?

    Is is only the brighest stars that we see everyday which affect our lives?
    How can that be?
    Surely if some stars have an effect on our daily lives than all stars must do the same. If not, what are the criteria for one star acting on our lives when another does not?

    Answer those questions for me and I'll believe in it.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    joejoem wrote:
    They've done studies you know. Sixty percent of the time, it works everytime.
    :v:

    Eh... Wah ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    Astrology is a load of crap. As someone already said, how can big balls of gas and the orbilts of planets affect our lives. And how is it that everyone born within a certain "sign" has the same thing happening to them in their lives...Thats right, all leo's will experiance a loss this week...complete bull****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The little cartoon pieces in tabloids, I would ignore – they are on the whole, rubbish. But I believe real Astrology, individual natal charts and the like, can't be dismissed out of hand.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    > Or do you think its all purely a coincidence and think people who
    > believe it are believing that they want so to speak?


    There's nothing in astrology which can't be quite easily explained by wishful thinking. Huge studies have been done to find any relation between peoples birth time and what they end up doing, but these have drawn a blank time and time again. Even people who started off hoping to find something to anything supernatural at all (psychics, clairvoyants, alien abduction, etc, etc), have given up, becuase after thirty years of searching produced zippo:

    http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/journalism/NS2000.html

    You can find a bit more info about astrology here:

    http://www.skepdic.com/astrolgy.html


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    > They've done studies you know. Sixty percent of the time, it works everytime.

    It's called The Forer Effect, and with suitable text, it works not sixty percent of the time, but around eighty-five percent of the time. More info on this here, including some sample "this is your personality assessment" text:

    http://skepdic.com/forer.html

    Again, wishful thinking!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    xzanti wrote:
    Eh... Wah ?


    From the greatest movie of all time. The Anchorman, when they are talking about an aphrodesiac aftershave. Comic Genius!

    Basically I was saying I think Star signs are pants. I still read a horiscope sometimes but I never think they are true.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    > real Astrology, individual natal charts and the like, can't be dismissed
    > out of hand.


    Nothing should be dismissed out of hand, but if you read up on the plenty of good, well-controlled studies which have been done to see if there's anything to astrology, you'll find that the whole thing evaporates very quickly indeed -- as much from infighting and disagreements amongst astrologists, as for the complete lack of any worthwhile results from any of them. A bit of a pity, but there you go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    joejoem wrote:
    Enough to get you into bed with them?

    rofl the very 70s cheesey pick up line
    "Hey baby what sign are you"


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    No, it's nonsense. There is the minor gravitational pull planets have on us, that affects us. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    I have had a few accurate predictions in the last while or so and a tarot card reader i went to was extremely accurate a good few times
    ?


    ive just done a back of my hand reading, and it says you are female.

    does this validate my method of fortune telling?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭meowCat


    are you a believer of horoscopes and astrology and compatibility in relation to star signs?

    I have had a few accurate predictions in the last while or so and a tarot card reader i went to was extremely accurate a good few times

    I usually think it's all bull.

    But a friend of mine went on and on about how some tarot reader predicted some stuff quite accurately for a friend of her's. So she got me intrigued and we booked a session for next week.
    Something tells me, I'm gonna cry whatever the fortune teller says. The stuff is a bit freaky all right.

    But I agree, it's def a girls' thing. We like to waste our time this way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Astrology is a load of crap. Its nothing but a load of vague statement learnt by some hack who is only concerned about getting money out of you.

    Anyone who rings up that physics (sp??) on-line thing deserved to be fleeced out of their €2.50 (or whatever it is).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Why is it 90% of the ladies believe in Astrology and all that alternative medicine while only 10% of men do and conversely 90% of men think both are mumbojumbo and snake oil while 10% believe.

    While I made up those percentages, tbh I don't think they are all that far from the reality. I guarantee that if you polled the people in this thread who defended astrology 90% would be female. Poll the posters who slate astrology in this thread and 90% will be male. Quite often when a posters user name doesn't give away what sex they are, I can guess with very reasonable accuracy, their actual gender based on what they believe.

    ie. What makes women more likely to believe in nonsense?? :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Calibos wrote:

    ie. What makes women more likely to believe in nonsense?? :D
    cosmo, the O.C, desperate house wives, you name it. ;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    this is meant to be a joke but just though i'd post it in this thread

    ARIES
    You tend to be headstrong and deliberate in your actions. Basically you don't give a **** about anyone. Most people hate you but you couldn't care less. You're the type of person who would masturbate at a wedding

    TAURUS
    Warm and caring are your most endearing characteristics. You get on well with most people because you're bisexual. You hardly ever wear underwear and you constantly smell of piss.

    GEMINI
    Your star sign denotes an air of duality in your character. Simply, you're a neurotic schizophrenic. A real ****ing weirdo, the type of person who'd kill them self to win a bet.

    CANCER
    You have a businesslike attitude to life and a knack for making money. You're an unscrupulous bastard who would sell relative's limbs to buy a
    mobile phone. You are likely to be murdered.

    LEO
    The adventurous type, always looking for thrills and willing to try anything. In other words, stupid. You have the IQ of a garden snail and will never amount to anything. Most Leos are living on the welfare.

    VIRGO
    You like the good things in life and you know how to enjoy them. But you're prone to bull****ting and you're a cheap bastard. Virgo men are usually queers and the majority of Virgo women are whores.

    LIBRA
    You are the forgiving type and you don't bear grudges. This makes you an asshole. For your entire life people will make a complete prick out of you. Nobody will go to your funeral.

    SCORPIO
    You are sharp, a quick thinker and good at puzzles. However these are your only good traits. You screw small animals and love picking your nose. You should become a stunt performer with no helmet.

    SAGITTARIUS
    You are the romantic mushy type, soft-hearted and a lover of the arts. You are likely to import Dutch pornography and sex toys. Men even willing to rent Sleepless In Seattle to increase your odds for a romp in the sack.

    CAPRICORN
    You are deep and personal in your thoughts, the quiet type. A mean self-centered **** and a closet homosexual. Your best friend is probably an altar boy.

    AQUARIUS
    You are the academic type and will probably end up working in the legal system. This means you are an absolute pervert, at the least a transvestite. Your ideal sexual partner is a Labrador puppy wearing fishnet tights.

    PISCES
    You are the eternal optimist, seeing the best of any situation. You have no grasp of reality and live in a dream world. Most people consider you to be the greatest living moron. You will continually fail. You're a prick.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    TAURUS
    Warm and caring are your most endearing characteristics. You get on well with most people because you're bisexual. You hardly ever wear underwear and you constantly smell of piss.

    GEMINI
    Your star sign denotes an air of duality in your character. Simply, you're a neurotic schizophrenic. A real ****ing weirdo, the type of person who'd kill them self to win a bet.


    I'm a taurus Gemini, and that is the most accurate one Ive ever seen :v:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Yeah astronomy is all total bull ****, your not s'posed to take it serious it's just there for a laugh if for anything. Same geos for tarot readers and psychics and all that crap. Think about it, if you were psychic and had this amazing power to see into the future and be able to tell everything about people just by looking at thier hands or whatever, would you really be driving round to peoples houses in an '89 Nissan March, and charging them 39.95 to hear their fortune? Would you not be more likely to buy a load of stocks and shares right before they shoot up
    in value or do the lotto or go to the horses or save peoples form dying in accidents or.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭meowCat


    this is meant to be a joke but just though i'd post it in this thread

    ARIES
    You tend to be headstrong and deliberate in your actions. Basically you don't give a **** about anyone. Most people hate you but you couldn't care less. You're the type of person who would masturbate at a wedding

    I like your humour coolsmileygirl!!!
    :D

    Where did you find that? Or did you make that up by yourself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    No, not at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    this is meant to be a joke but just though i'd post it in this thread

    ARIES
    You tend to be headstrong and deliberate in your actions. Basically you don't give a **** about anyone. Most people hate you but you couldn't care less. You're the type of person who would masturbate at a wedding

    TAURUS
    Warm and caring are your most endearing characteristics. You get on well with most people because you're bisexual. You hardly ever wear underwear and you constantly smell of piss.

    GEMINI
    Your star sign denotes an air of duality in your character. Simply, you're a neurotic schizophrenic. A real ****ing weirdo, the type of person who'd kill them self to win a bet.

    CANCER
    You have a businesslike attitude to life and a knack for making money. You're an unscrupulous bastard who would sell relative's limbs to buy a
    mobile phone. You are likely to be murdered.

    LEO
    The adventurous type, always looking for thrills and willing to try anything. In other words, stupid. You have the IQ of a garden snail and will never amount to anything. Most Leos are living on the welfare.

    VIRGO
    You like the good things in life and you know how to enjoy them. But you're prone to bull****ting and you're a cheap bastard. Virgo men are usually queers and the majority of Virgo women are whores.

    LIBRA
    You are the forgiving type and you don't bear grudges. This makes you an asshole. For your entire life people will make a complete prick out of you. Nobody will go to your funeral.

    SCORPIO
    You are sharp, a quick thinker and good at puzzles. However these are your only good traits. You screw small animals and love picking your nose. You should become a stunt performer with no helmet.

    SAGITTARIUS
    You are the romantic mushy type, soft-hearted and a lover of the arts. You are likely to import Dutch pornography and sex toys. Men even willing to rent Sleepless In Seattle to increase your odds for a romp in the sack.

    CAPRICORN
    You are deep and personal in your thoughts, the quiet type. A mean self-centered **** and a closet homosexual. Your best friend is probably an altar boy.

    AQUARIUS
    You are the academic type and will probably end up working in the legal system. This means you are an absolute pervert, at the least a transvestite. Your ideal sexual partner is a Labrador puppy wearing fishnet tights.

    PISCES
    You are the eternal optimist, seeing the best of any situation. You have no grasp of reality and live in a dream world. Most people consider you to be the greatest living moron. You will continually fail. You're a prick.


    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    CANCER
    You have a businesslike attitude to life and a knack for making money. You're an unscrupulous bastard who would sell relative's limbs to buy a
    mobile phone. You are likely to be murdered.

    Hmmm...if I am murdered, I bet it will be by Heyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I think the fact that women are more likely to believe in astrology, tarot cards, religion and the like is down to the fact that they're missing the part of the brain I like to call the "bullshít detector". Interestingly, I think this serves an evolutionary purpose: it helps ensure procreation takes place with men. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Eglinton


    I firmly believe that anyone that believes in astrology has the intellectual capacity of a grape. (Apologies to the Vitaceae family if this is insulting :) )
    This belief also goes for anyone that believes in organised religion, ghosts and other psychic bull****.

    I dumped a girl last year because she kept going on about the psychics she visited. They cost over €100 a time!!!!! Cop the f**k on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭The Song Thrush


    Rushing for the papers every day
    To find out what the stars have got to say
    About the fortunes that are on the way
    It's crazy, crazy

    Working, not waiting that forever will hold
    Success comes from what we do, not from what we're told
    And counting on lucky stars is living on false hopes

    Don't let the planets take control of our lives
    Believe in the truth and not celestial lies
    It's we, not the stars above, who write our horoscopes

    Virgos and Arians, Leos, Aquarians
    Pisces, Cancerians show
    No matter when we're born
    Libra or Capricorn
    Taureans and Scorpions know

    Nothing can change the way we've chosen to live
    And no one can tell us when to take or to give
    It's we, not the stars above, who write our horoscopes

    Yet, in spite of this, when daylight dies
    There we are, with eyes turned to the sky
    All anxious to be told a few more lies
    Still crazy, crazy

    Working, not waiting that forever will hold
    Success comes from what we do, not from what we're told
    And counting on lucky stars is living on false hopes

    Don't let the planets take control of our lives
    Believe in the truth and not celestial lies
    It's we, not the stars above, who write our horoscopes

    Throw away almanacs, signs of the Zodiac
    Then there is sense to be found
    They are celestial, we are terrestrial
    Let's keep our feet on the ground

    Don't let the planets take control of our lives
    Believe in the truth and not celestial lies
    It's we, not the stars above, who write our horoscopes
    :v:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Was gonna start a new thread on this subject but found this instead :D

    Astrology is based on the fact that the sun, moon, planets, etc., have a gravitational pull on the earth (Newton and all that). The pull affects the movement of waves and the sea. So is it not plausible that the pull has a subliminal effect on our brains?!

    hehe

    *runs away*

    :D


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