[Merged] No Fecking Way!! / EuroForces Delayed

Irishpimpdude

Yet again!! Can they get anything right???

Community Update - 2/20/06

Listen up Troops,

Although patch 1.2 included several fixes that we know were eagerly awaited, it unfortunately introduced some new issues. These are being addressed immediately and we are working around the clock to resolve those. Patch 1.21 (coming soon) will be tested in a limited beta with select Battlefield community members starting as early as this week. We’re doing this to ensure a clean release of 1.21. In addition, we have decided to postpone the Euro Force Booster Pack until sometime after the release of the updated 1.21 patch.

Stick to this web space for additional information soon.

On a more pleasant note, Battlefield 2 hit somewhat of a milestone last night with over 52,000 simultaneous players. This is the highest number of players we’ve seen at one time for Battlefield 2 and almost 4 times more than the peak number of Battlefield 1942.

Thanks in advance for your patience.

The team at DICE and EA

Link:http://www.ea.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=communityupdate_022006

Ponster

http://www.ea.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=communityupdate_022006

Community Update - 2/20/06

Listen up Troops,

Although patch 1.2 included several fixes that we know were eagerly awaited, it unfortunately introduced some new issues. These are being addressed immediately and we are working around the clock to resolve those. Patch 1.21 (coming soon) will be tested in a limited beta with select Battlefield community members starting as early as this week. We’re doing this to ensure a clean release of 1.21. In addition, we have decided to postpone the Euro Force Booster Pack until sometime after the release of the updated 1.21 patch.

Stick to this web space for additional information soon.

On a more pleasant note, Battlefield 2 hit somewhat of a milestone last night with over 52,000 simultaneous players. This is the highest number of players we’ve seen at one time for Battlefield 2 and almost 4 times more than the peak number of Battlefield 1942.

Thanks in advance for your patience.

The team at DICE and EA

Irishpimpdude

I just posted this mate...

Zen 2nd

But this one has more posts.

Ah its no problem to wait. I'm doing LC and its good to have to wait.

projectmayhem

what a bunch of retards... ffs!

AnCapaillMor

For christs sake they're fecking around. got to wait on the 1.21 patch and then euroforce, how shaggin long will that be.

Zillah

Ok, who didnt know this was coming?

Seriously, im impressed they're on it nice and quick. Im sick of the new bugs. The hit registration for projectiles is shit. I've seen plenty of rockets go through jeeps, and Im tired of DEAD ACCURATE TV missiles passing right through the enemy chopper.

Now that I think of it, it could just be crap netcode.

cregser

I believe screenshots are broken too.

Irishpimpdude

Yep they are indeed, they had enough beta testers and no one reported these bugs? idiots!

Irishpimpdude

You know they could fix and release these patches in a day or two! but there lazy ****s!

cregser

Irishpimpdude wrote:

Yep they are indeed, they had enough beta testers and no one reported these bugs? idiots!

I think they were all too busy making sneak preview videos of the patch.

...and adjusting their clan's tactics to the modifications.

cregser

Irishpimpdude wrote:

You know they could fix and release these patches in a day or two! but there lazy ****s!

The BF2.exe file is about 7MB. Considering that it doesn't hold the games resources (sound, textures) its a whopper of an EXE file. If it was smaller they could probably slip it in when we're logging into BF2.

Ponster

Irishpimpdude wrote:

I just posted this mate...

Sorry, your post wasn't there when I began mine

Irishpimpdude

Lol there ****ing muppets TBH, but still is truely a great game even if im **** at it ! ( i swear its EA's fault!! )

d22ontour

Well 1.2 needed a fix and sooner the better.

http://bf2faq.net/

Has a list of a few bugs though the AA one is class.

Zillah

Haha:

http://media.putfile.com/ZatarAA

dazftw

LOL Thats funny... cs players hate steam and BF2 players hate dice lol... Very corrupt world we live in :rolleyes:

AnCapaillMor

Predator anti-tank missile goes straight through enemy tanks

Same with tows apparently. On sharqui last night, bottom right yank tow, fired a tow at rthe tank threads and it went through the tank, got off the tow, hid jump back after reload time fired again and it went through the tank. Tows and rockets going through only seems to happen close range. One good thing came of it on the 2nd one, i got a jeep behind the tank:)

Zillah

I meant mention that Rope, I have a theory. I think that bug occurs if the Tv missile is fired at the same time as the pilot is firing his missiles. I havn't remembered it enough actually check, but thinking over when its happened me, imfairly sure it was always in a busy moment. We can try an experiment later.

Vegeta

my god i'm jealous of your lifestyles

Keyzer

cregser wrote:

The BF2.exe file is about 7MB. Considering that it doesn't hold the games resources (sound, textures) its a whopper of an EXE file. If it was smaller they could probably slip it in when we're logging into BF2.

WTF?
Speak English....

projectmayhem

Keyzer wrote:

WTF?
Speak English....

if you make an exe file, or download one, it's usually about 3-5mb. this holds every piece of information needed (eg. installers) for that program. but bf2.exe doesn't hold all the information needed for battlefield2. it just ties everything together in code. consider a 7mb .txt, imagine how many lines it would take to reach that size...

his point (i think) is that there's a lot of code there. change one thing and something else is adversely affected, so it's quite difficult to change a few lines and NOT have something else change.

that said, DICE/EA have quite a lot of resources, you'd think they'd figure this stuff out before release

Scruff

dunno about you lot be the load\verify time gets even longer with each patch. That and when its supposidly loaded and i click join i cant play for about 30 seconds as its still loading and frame rate dropt to baout 1 frame every 2 seconds.

jonski

What surprises me is that , after reading the 'bug' lists last night , I haven't seen any mention of a new 'memory leak' , yet I am hearing ppl talking on irc and ts and I definitely have a problem myself . Thing is , I ain't the most tech minded , and I am left to presume it is a memory leak , as it is doing the same as it was when everyone was complaining about said leak .

ie: after playing for a while it starts to lag a bit even though my ping is fine , and also it take a bit of time to regain control of my pc after shutting down the game .

Vegeta

Scruff wrote:

dunno about you lot be the load\verify time gets even longer with each patch. That and when its supposidly loaded and i click join i cant play for about 30 seconds as its still loading and frame rate dropt to baout 1 frame every 2 seconds.

I agree with ya there scruff, load time is ok for me now but hte verify time is crazy, then when i do get going there is some terrible lag for bout 5-10 secs at initial spawn but its gone then for the rest of the game

Vegeta

jonski wrote:

What surprises me is that , after reading the 'bug' lists last night , I haven't seen any mention of a new 'memory leak' , yet I am hearing ppl talking on irc and ts and I definitely have a problem myself . Thing is , I ain't the most tech minded , and I am left to presume it is a memory leak , as it is doing the same as it was when everyone was complaining about said leak .

ie: after playing for a while it starts to lag a bit even though my ping is fine , and also it take a bit of time to regain control of my pc after shutting down the game .

well it has always taken quite a bit of time for me to get control of my PC back when I exit BF2, say 20-30secs

projectmayhem

yeah same here. bf2 is a hog... however, when loading up a game it's gotten quicker for me, same with verifying. even though it pauses at 62% (geometries) every single time for about 10seconds.

jonski

Vegeta wrote:

well it has always taken quite a bit of time for me to get control of my PC back when I exit BF2, say 20-30secs

Was the same for me then after the 1.12( or whatever it was ) it became shorter , but it has gone back up now after this 1.2 patch .

jonski

Also , had anyone else noticed that if you alt+tab out of the game while loading the map , when you go back in the graphics are all screwed up prompting a bf2 restart .

Vegeta

i don't think i've ever alt+tab out of a live game as I'm afraid i'll be nailed, so i usually disconnect from the server if I need to alt+tab, ya could try that

Ruffty^

If I alt-tab out, the amount of time it takes to get to the desktop and the amount of time it takes to get back in, is roughly equal to how long it takes to load a map.

Such a good game I hope they sort it sooner rather than later.

Also nice1 zillah with the movie of the oilfire bug, that was class!

jonski

Vegeta wrote:

i don't think i've ever alt+tab out of a live game as I'm afraid i'll be nailed, so i usually disconnect from the server if I need to alt+tab, ya could try that

Alt+tab , while map is loading , not during the game itself . Although I have had the need to alt+tab out of a live game to o admin stuff or whatever , never had a problem with it , it only takes a second .

AnCapaillMor

Phew so it's not my system, the alt-tab map graphics thing has happened to me a few times, dam fools xfiring me during games.

kirving

"Nonstop phantom teamkills being displayed over and over again until the player leaves the server."

Yup, i got 1 last night, and it said I was punished and all! Ea still have a fcuk load of stuff to sort out before this game is nearly finished! Still though, great game!


edit: "Minor cosmetic issue: red distance numbers showing the distance to some unknown target far underground"

Saw that on nearly every server i've been in sine the patch.

December Son

TBH the entire hit registration of BF2 needs f*cking overhaul. Feels more like pot luck as to who kills who rather than skill, and i dont remember any of the other BF games feeling like that in combat.
Its incredibly frustrating, the other day i was honestly unloading on someone with the PKM, had his hed DIRECTLY IN MY CROSS HAIR and who do you think came off the better? :rolleyes:
And then on Sharqui, i was at the construction site, and literally had clear shots on about 4 enemies who were across the way from me, i fired and fired, and could not hit ONE feckin enemy. Seriously, sort it out. Ive never palyed a game where hit reg was this bad.

TheHairyFairy

jonski wrote:

Alt+tab , while map is loading , not during the game itself . Although I have had the need to alt+tab out of a live game to o admin stuff or whatever , never had a problem with it , it only takes a second .

Jonski are you using BF2CC to admin? If so you can admin from within the game now. Chat me on IRC about it.

Fairy

Zillah

December Son wrote:

TBH the entire hit registration of BF2 needs f*cking overhaul. Feels more like pot luck as to who kills who rather than skill, and i dont remember any of the other BF games feeling like that in combat.
Its incredibly frustrating, the other day i was honestly unloading on someone with the PKM, had his hed DIRECTLY IN MY CROSS HAIR and who do you think came off the better? :rolleyes:
And then on Sharqui, i was at the construction site, and literally had clear shots on about 4 enemies who were across the way from me, i fired and fired, and could not hit ONE feckin enemy. Seriously, sort it out. Ive never palyed a game where hit reg was this bad.

Uh no the bullet reg is fine, its just the missiles that are screwed.

Tell me, when you were firing the PKM, were you prone and looking through the sights? Or were you standing and aiming with the normal crosshairs.

Believe it or not the bullets dont always land where you tell them to...

Zillah

RopeDrink wrote:

Aye, we'll give it a go later...
Until then, go to college you deserter... Running off at early hours in the morning to get smartened in college while I fight the war myself... Bah!

Vegeta wrote:

my god i'm jealous of your lifestyles

Im in "photoshop class" at the moment

Vegeta

definitely see the red numbers indicative of distance underneath the ground.

also Zillah no need to kick me when i'm down

jonski

TheHairyFairy wrote:

Jonski are you using BF2CC to admin? If so you can admin from within the game now. Chat me on IRC about it.

Fairy

I will consider this , only , and this has to be promised , if you do not confuse my lil brain in any way shape or form . Actually are you really sure you can't call to my house to explain this ? I'll put you up for the night , and take you into town and show you the delights of Limerick...........................hmmmmm on second thought forget that last part .

Vegeta

jonski wrote:

I will consider this , only , and this has to be promised , if you do not confuse my lil brain in any way shape or form . Actually are you really sure you can't call to my house to explain this ? I'll put you up for the night , and take you into town and show you the delights of Limerick...........................hmmmmm on second thought forget that last part .

Jonski I am based in Limerick and play BF2, are you goin to UL???

December Son

Zillah wrote:

Uh no the bullet reg is fine, its just the missiles that are screwed.

Tell me, when you were firing the PKM, were you prone and looking through the sights? Or were you standing and aiming with the normal crosshairs.

Believe it or not the bullets dont always land where you tell them to...

Proned, and iron sighted, with his head in the IS.
Seriously tho, play BFV and tell me the hit reg is fine in BF2. If you use the SA80 much, youll know what i mean. Its just doesnt feel right. sorry i cant explain it better, but compare it to firing the M16 or AK47 in BFV and youll see what i mean. You could castrate a gnat at 50 paces with those guns, alot of the weapons in BF2 just feel...sloppy.

Vegeta

I agree with december son, there is something a miss, I am never confident that i'll come out of a firefight on top even if I am better armed and spot the other person frst. its always a mini celebration whenever i kill anyone. I have emptied entire clips firing in bursts at guys while being prone and then he fires 2 bullets back and nails me

jonski

Vegeta wrote:

Jonski I am based in Limerick and play BF2, are you goin to UL???

Am I going to UL ?? ..No , unless it's to a concert , but if I can get the money together my kids could be........before too long .

Vegeta

jonski wrote:

Am I going to UL ?? ..No , unless it's to a concert , but if I can get the money together my kids could be........before too long .

lol...sorry I just dont usually think of gamers as being fathers or over 25. I am 22 myself and graduated last year from UL, to hear you have kids and are still actively playing games gives me hope for myself to continue playing games till i'm riddled with repetative strain injuries from button bashing

Evd-Burner

The damn retards they should have tested the damn patch first!!!!!!

Pongo

....I just cannot believe that once again, they have to patch the patch. And as soon as they do, we'll all go and happily download EuroForces, which of course will be buggy as hell, and require a patch, which won't work, and will have to be patched..

Evd-Burner

I know, it gets a bit stupid after a while doesnt it?

cregser

projectmayhem wrote:

his point (i think) is that there's a lot of code there. change one thing and something else is adversely affected, so it's quite difficult to change a few lines and NOT have something else change.

Yeah, my point was really that the smallest the patch would be is 7MB and it's not of a size that they could just 'slip-in unnoticed' whilst you logged on. For most programs, simple bug fixes are done by replacing a small .exe file. But BF2.exe is quite big (it's f***ing huge!).

But projectmayhem makes a good point. It looks (to me) like the team that made BF2 (and the subsequent 1.2 patch) was distracted by the expansion packs and forgot that if you (for example) increase homing missile sensitivity, it makes them stick to oil flames. Programmers tend to make loads of mental notes when making games and then just forget about them - it's human nature (and more likely to happen when you have a work horse of an employer *cough*EA*cough*).

Jumpy

December Son wrote:

Proned, and iron sighted, with his head in the IS.
Seriously tho, play BFV and tell me the hit reg is fine in BF2. If you use the SA80 much, youll know what i mean. Its just doesnt feel right. sorry i cant explain it better, but compare it to firing the M16 or AK47 in BFV and youll see what i mean. You could castrate a gnat at 50 paces with those guns, alot of the weapons in BF2 just feel...sloppy.

I know what you mean.

If you have ever played anything like Day of Defeat, the MG's on that game tear people apart.
5 guys trying to run across a courtyard? 0 guys will make it. Guaranteed.

With BF2 the MG will get a few hits, you will see the X appear a few times, but 4/5 will make it.

December Son

Jumpy wrote:

I know what you mean.

If you have ever played anything like Day of Defeat, the MG's on that game tear people apart.
5 guys trying to run across a courtyard? 0 guys will make it. Guaranteed.

With BF2 the MG will get a few hits, you will see the X appear a few times, but 4/5 will make it.

Exactly. MG's can decimate an entire squad in dod. Theyre something to be feared ffs. BF2 youre lucky if you can take anyone out with them. The PKM is decent enough, but by and large i think the mg's are crap in BF2