Spike

amazingemmet

I've started doing an am session everyday of the week bar sunday, but personally i'm not a morning person and i need something to give me a kick in the morning. i was thinking spike has anyone tries it?
And before its mentioned i can't take caffeine.

t-ha

amazingemmet wrote:

I've started doing an am session everyday of the week bar sunday, but personally i'm not a morning person and i need something to give me a kick in the morning. i was thinking spike has anyone tries it?
And before its mentioned i can't take caffeine.

As far as I know it's basically like sulbutiamine and caffeine. Looks like it's not your boy so, although just so you know, most stimulants will have some caffeine in them.

Apart from the caffeine issue, spike probably would give what you're looking for.

amazingemmet

After some more reading i found it contains 50mg caffeine, anyone know if thats alot compared to say an expresso? Caffeine isn't a major thing i just get the shakes bad if i have too much of it.

g'em

its actually way less. an espresso has around 100mg of caffeine, a regular coffee anywhere from 60-170mg. Red bull has 80mg. Caffeine tabs usually have around 200mg.

A can of diet coke contains around 45mg caffeine so its comparable to that.

amazingemmet

Grand so spike it is then cheers

Dragan

amazingemmet wrote:

Grand so spike it is then cheers

If you don't mind me asking emmet, where are you getting it??

t-ha

Dragan wrote:

If you don't mind me asking emmet, where are you getting it??

Order it online from the link he first posted - takes about 5 days & no customs trouble.

amazingemmet

I also found some chemical companies selling it in bulk so if its alright i might buy a kg or two at discount prices if people would be interested.

Dragan

Cool, sounds like a larff!

Do they sell anything else??? weapons grade alchohol perhaps????

amazingemmet

You'd be surprised at what you can get off them all legit aswell

t-ha

amazingemmet wrote:

I also found some chemical companies selling it in bulk so if its alright i might buy a kg or two at discount prices if people would be interested.

Spike or sulbutiamine? Just a note on frequent/heavy use of sulbutiamine - it could be excitotoxic to neurons. This is unproven but the fact that it acts as a kainate receptor agonist and influences the kainate system is mild cause for concern, without really knowing the full extent and degree of specificity (which, when overworked, causes an elevation in neurotoxic activity).

P.S. I didn't come up with that, I'm just quoting some-one else so don't ask me to explain the kainate system to you... I'm pretty sure it's used to attack Superman or something . Anyway, that's just sulbutiamine, the makers of spike say that their product is safe and that you do not get desensitised to it (which you would with plain sulbutiamine) so I guess they've altered it someway? I wouldn't mind getting some plain sulbutiamine to compare the effects.

amazingemmet

Subltiamine, but i know some places that'll make chemicals to order so could be an option if they modified its structure in some way.

t-ha

bump

amazingemmet

I ordered some there at the a day or two ago so will let you know how i get on with it, also its not subltamine but something similair i found the chem forumla on t-nation, so if i like it might get someone to whip up a batch for me.

RonanC

Sulbutiamine completely screwed my sleeping pattern for days - lying in bed 'til 3am not able to sleep, etc. Gave my bottle to a friend and the exact same thing happened him.

It has also been hypothesised to exacerbate symptoms of depression in those prone to it.

amazingemmet

What time of the day were you taking it at?

RonanC

9am.....

amazingemmet

K, time to start planning for 6Am wake ups methinks

RonanC

amazingemmet wrote:

K, time to start planning for 6Am wake ups methinks

You might consider cycling on a weekly basis it as the effects tend to diminish relatively quickly i.e. after 3-4 days of use.