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Behind my back...

  • 14-02-2006 03:55PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Ok so I know people here have greater, more important problems than me so forgive me if i'm sounding petty. I just need to get this out of my system. Anyway i share a room at uni with my best friend. Last night I was just out of the shower and as I didn't feel comfortable going up to the kitchen/living area ( as my other flatmates had friends over and I was in my pj's and had a towel wrapped around my head....the shame of it!) I asked my roomate would they mind going up to get me a drink because I was gasping. Yes I know I seem lazy but I really was too self conscience to go up. Anyway my roomie suggested that she go over to the nearby shop and get some orange juice. I told her not to bother, that it was too much hassle and that anything from the kitchen would be grand. Anyway she said it was no problem, that she wanted some for herself anyway and headed off to the shop happy as larry.

    The next day she rings me from uni and tells me she forgot her phone. On my way bringing it up to her I'm so nosey that I read her messages. A message to a family member of hers reads: Something about me being so bossy. That i MADE her go to the shop to get orange juice and to top it all off she calls me a bitch.

    I know I got what I deserved for reading her messages but she always gives me her phone anway.

    I'm really hurt by this. We've been friends for 7 yrs and I've never bad mouthed her. To top it off she's all nice to my face today.

    What should I do?? Confront her?????


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Everyone gets pissed of with the people in thier lives at some stage.
    so she was mad at you for what the whole of 10 mins and your going to throw away a long term friendship for that ?

    While I can understand your modesty really unless your pjs are sexy or indecent or a binki I don't see why you could not put on a robe or a jumper and go to the kitchen yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    I dont think that the title of this is correct, shouldn't it read behind "her" back?
    Forget about it, you shouldn't have been reading her messages, the excuse that she always gives you her phone anyway is not an excuse.

    Confronting her would be silly as it will put the friendship in a totally different light.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭*Oul_Doll_Cork*


    Do not confront her... as Thaedydal said we all get pissed off with the people is our lives every once in a while!!! I'm sure there has probably been a few times where she just got on your nerves... she might not have been doing anything but when you are around someone 24/7 they do tend to do that!!!... She was probably just having a quick rant to get it out of her system!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Thaedydal wrote:
    Everyone gets pissed of with the people in thier lives at some stage.
    so she was mad at you for what the whole of 10 mins and your going to throw away a long term friendship for that ?

    Yeah, just because you irritated her doesn't mean she doesn't want to be your mate anymore. You p1ssed her off for whatever reason and she expressed her annoyance in a text. She was having a bad moment - no big deal, don't take it personally. I'm sure in the seven years you're been mates she's driven you beserk before so just put it in perspective and let it pass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    What's the bigger crime.....what your roommate said in a private message or you reading the private message in her phone?! She has every right to say whatever she wants in a private message - you, however, do not have the right to go ino her phone & read it!

    I can't see why you didn't just towel dry your hair, brush it & put a dressing gown on, or even just sling a pair of jeans & a jumper on - could your thirst not have waited a whole 2mins? It does sound really lazy and if someone asked me to get a drink for them to save them such a small effort, I'd be a bit annoyed too....your friend may have thought you were taking her for granted....is there any chance that the offer to go to the shops was sarcasm?

    Anyway, she went to the shops, she is still your friend...maybe take from it that your roommate isn't at your beck & call and next time get the juice yourself? Best of luck :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭el tel


    OP, did the juice taste funny?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Is there a possibility you are a little bossy?

    As others point out, quite often in our lives we take out our frustration on unsuspecting others who may have just been a minor irritant. You live together, so you can't expect her to think the sun shines out of your arse. You have your "things" which get on her nerves. Perhaps one of these is being a little bossy, or a little too prudish.
    She's still friendly with you, she still makes an effort to talk to you, so there should be no problem. Even couples who live together make the same commenst about eachother, but it doesn't mean they hate them any less.

    Let it be a lesson in poking your nose where it doesn't belong, and hold onto your friendship. If you know her for seven years, and she was happy enough to share with you, then she clearly considers you a friend, despite the text.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Some-one mentioned that maybe she was being sarcastic. Well thats something that she can't do so.....

    Anyway she was just trying to act all 'cool' to her relation.
    This is a person who I tell everything to and vice versa. Some people share their problems with their sisters, we share ours with each other. We rarely fight and to call me a b!tch really upsets me. BTW she doesn't curse so this isn't something she meant lightly.

    She's done so many stupid things to piss me off and everytime I've let them go. Like when ever I like the main room she has to follow me because she doesn't like the others. The list is endless.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭BoozyBabe


    You're hurt??????

    If you weren't so bloody nosey, you'd have nothing to be hurt about!!!

    I think she should be the one who's hurt:- you've no respect for her privacy whatsoever, & think you have the God given right to search through her phone whenever you want.

    You got what you deserved, now forget about it, don't confront her, & leave private things private in future.

    honestly not worth ruining 7years friendship over


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    el tel
    unhelpful postings will get you banned from this forum.
    Do read the charter and abide by the rules when posting.
    Thaedydal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭AngryBadger


    You invaded your friends privacy and you got burned. If you hadn't, you'd never have known she thought you were bossy, and everyone could get on with their lives.

    Lesson learned.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I often get pissed of with my friends, especially when we've been in close quarters for a period of time, and I get it off my chest by sending a text to my mum or whoever complaining about them. It doesn't mean that I hate my friends, it's just because I want a little rant when I'm unhappy. If they read my messages and found out, well it's their own fault for being nosy.

    Maybe you could take the message as constructive criticism. Take a step back and look at your behaviour. Do you tend to give orders? Are you sometimes bossy or demanding? If so, now's a perfect oppertunity to try and fix these faults.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Why this affected me so much was because my other best friend had a major fight with us during the summer. It was just a stupid misunderstanding but she won't talk to us anymore. Some of the things that , that friend said really hurt me as we had been friends since primary school.

    People around me put it down to jealousy- the fact that I got better than them in the leaving cert without putting much work in. And now I'm afraid the same thing is happening. I know she's jealous that I have a laptop and begrudges me for that. I've made more friends than her here and sometimes I feel like she depends too much on me.

    I asked her as a favour to get me a drink. Whatever it was bossy or not she should have told me where to go if she was annoyed and not make up lies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    There's an old saying that goes something along the lines of, "If we knew what our friends said about us behind our backs we wouldn't have many friends"

    That's not to say that our friends are running around saying nasty things about us all the time, it's more a case of them just venting some steam.

    If I was your friend and I found out that you read my messages without me knowing (regardless of the fact that I've allowed you to read them before with my permission) I'd be absolutely fuming.

    I still can't understand why you couldn't either

    A) wait to get the water or
    B) get it yourself. It smacks of either being way too bossy or way too prudish.

    What could've happened is that your friend's family member could have asked her where she was and that she said that she was over at the shop getting Juice for you for either of the reasons above........resulting in a bitching session.

    Hopefully you've learned a lesson?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Cnoc16


    What you done (reading her messages) was worse than her having a nag about you.

    Try forget it. I'm sure you have been annoyed with something she done before. Also, ask yourself if you may be bossy, because she would not have said it if it was only a once off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Hurt wrote:
    Some-one mentioned that maybe she was being sarcastic. Well thats something that she can't do so.....

    Anyway she was just trying to act all 'cool' to her relation.
    This is a person who I tell everything to and vice versa. Some people share their problems with their sisters, we share ours with each other. We rarely fight and to call me a b!tch really upsets me. BTW she doesn't curse so this isn't something she meant lightly.

    She's done so many stupid things to piss me off and everytime I've let them go. Like when ever I like the main room she has to follow me because she doesn't like the others. The list is endless.....

    so you did something that annoyed her. shes probably forgotten it. its probably not that important to her anymore.

    what if she read this, recognised you, and then felt you had been horrible for saying these things behind her back?

    do you think shed be annoyed?

    kind of like you are now?

    get over it. people constantly do things to annoy each other, but friends just let it go. if youre really that worried about it, then say it to her. if yore not really that worried, then forget about it and move on.

    honestly, you have wasted far too much time on this already...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Morrigan


    Hurt wrote:
    She's done so many stupid things to piss me off and everytime I've let them go.

    She's done things to piss you off before but you've let them go... except go on a forum an rant. Now your friend was pissed off by something you did and texted her family about you to let off steam. Same difference?
    Maybe you should try communicating some of things that piss you off, but in a gentle, non-confrontational way with the aim of improving things, not in quest for justice or vengence...

    And if you go digging, you'll always find dirt...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Arathorn


    I think everyones being too hard on the OP, she shudnt have read the message but nobodys perfect. If her friend had a problem doing something for her she should have told her to do it herself, I think her friend is a phony. If she doesnt confront her this will fester and come out in other ways. I say have it out with her, probly end badly but better than both of you being two faced to one another..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭AngryBadger


    Arathorn wrote:
    If her friend had a problem doing something for her she should have told her to do it herself, I think her friend is a phony...I say have it out with her, probly end badly but better than both of you being two faced to one another..

    I think those are pretty grandiose conclusions to be drawing. People constantly say stupid things about one another, people will often refer to their mates as "the other ****er", bitch, and so on. If the OP CAN't deal with this aspect of social interaction she has far bigger problems.

    And really, what business did she have reading the mobile in the first place? In my eyes that makes her a far worse person than whatever contrived problem she has with the other party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Kablamo!


    Hurt wrote:
    She's done so many stupid things to piss me off and everytime I've let them go. Like when ever I like the main room she has to follow me because she doesn't like the others. The list is endless.....


    at least she sends her grievances via text message to one person alone, your broadcasting yours to a message board for christs sake.
    relax, take a deep breath, and think about what your saying.
    you're being hypocritical!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Is anyone actually listening??

    She made up a lie about me TELLING her to go to the shop to get me some orange juice. In fact she went to the shop for herself. We were watching a film later, thats when she was texting.

    I was invited to a family event soon where I will be talking to this person she was texting. I get on well with this person that was texted and would consider them my friend. How would you feel if someone was painting you in a bad light just to make themselves look good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Look there are 3 sides to everything, your side, her side and the truth.
    The question is how much are you going to let this upset you and how much of a show of yourself are you willing to make ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thaedydal wrote:
    Look there are 3 sides to everything, your side, her side and the truth.
    The question is how much are you going to let this upset you and how much of a show of yourself are you willing to make ?

    Except that I'm an honest person so I am telling the truth. Believe me or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭AngryBadger


    Hurt wrote:
    Is anyone actually listening??
    She made up a lie about me TELLING her to go to the shop to get me some orange juice.

    Clearly a hanging offence, best bet is to nail a dead cat to her door.

    Seriously. Grow up. And as said, you can't claim the moral high ground over something you found while snooping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    To be fair if you were to disown everybody who says a bad thing about you in life, you'd be in trouble... everyone bitches about everybody at some stage, even their OWN MOTHERS!

    None of the above stands true for me tho

    Basically take the the cheesey snacks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Hurt wrote:
    Is anyone actually listening??

    She made up a lie about me TELLING her to go to the shop to get me some orange juice. In fact she went to the shop for herself. We were watching a film later, thats when she was texting.

    I was invited to a family event soon where I will be talking to this person she was texting. I get on well with this person that was texted and would consider them my friend. How would you feel if someone was painting you in a bad light just to make themselves look good.
    Seriously, buy some Lego, build a bridge and get over it!!

    People talk about each other. End Of!!!

    Did you read enough of her texts to know what context she was talking about you in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Hurt wrote:
    Except that I'm an honest person so I am telling the truth. Believe me or not.
    yes, i believe you are telling the truth, but you are telling the truth you know and as you see it.

    what other people see and think may be vastly different, but also the truth.

    for everything else, see what bazmo said. i think the lego bridge thing was pretty accurate.
    now you just sound melodramatic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,764 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Tell her you read her messages and then see what she calls you.... One of the words will probably be 'nosy'.

    Did you ask her to get you a drink? i.e. 'Please, I'm so shy, would you ever get me a drink? It's just that I'm embarrassed, being in my PJs, and all...."

    Or was it more like 'Get me a drink, would you?'

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,411 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    this is a clear case of just deserts. the ops friend sends a nasty message and the op is so nosey to read the friends messages. Obviously a partnership ade in heaven. As a poster might say ... who's going behind who's back?

    Aside from that, people do like to vent their frustrations and are entitled to do so. It probaly just doesn't mean anything. I ocassionally think my wife is being a complete bitch and say so under my tongue but that doesn't mean that she actually is; just that I feel pissed off at her sometimes, nothing more nothing less. Imagine what she might post if she read that on my phone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Hurt wrote:
    Except that I'm an honest person

    If you were so honest you wouldn't have read her messages & so if you were honest, you would be none the wiser about any message on your friends phone.....

    I can't understand why you want sympathy for something your friend said - when you only know she said it by being underhand & reading her messages.....it was a private message, she can lie, exagerate or anything else she wants....& frankly it serves you right for snooping! ;)


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